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    Why was the pirates' flag called the Jolly Roger?

    Question #44360. Asked by mochyn.

    sequoianoir

    A corruption of the French "joli rouge" or "jolie rouge" a "red flag".

    Roger may come from "Old Roger" a term for the Devil.

    There was also "the King of the sea" a leader of some Asian Pirates called "Ali Raja".

    Feb 15 04, 1:13 PM
    Hamlet.

    No one knows the origin of the name "Jolly Roger" for the pirate flag. It is thought to have come from joli rouge (pretty red), a wry French description of the bloody banner flown by early privateers.

    http://www.inkyfingers.com/pyrates/flags/



    Feb 15 04, 1:31 PM
    Yanks2003

    The name "Jolly Roger" goes back at least to Charles Johnson's A General History of the Pyrates, published in 1724. Johnson specifically cites two pirates as having named their flag "Jolly Roger": Bartholomew Roberts in June, 1721 and Francis Spriggs in July, 1723. While Spriggs and Roberts used the same name for their flags, their flag designs were quite different, suggesting that already "Jolly Roger" was a generic term for black pirate flags rather than a name for any single specific design. Neither Spriggs' nor Roberts' Jolly Roger consisted of a skull and crossbones.

    Richard Hawkins, captured by pirates in 1724, reported that the pirates had a black flag bearing the figure of a skeleton stabbing a heart with a spear, which they named "Jolly Roger".

    One theory of the name's origin is that it derives from the English word "roger", whence "rogue", meaning a wandering vagabond. "Old Roger" was a term for the devil.

    Another theory is that it comes from the French term "joli rouge", ("pretty red") which the English corrupted into "Jolly Roger" or simply "Hodge". While it is true that there were a series of "red flags" that were feared as much, or more, than "black flags", this seems unlikely because the red flag was not adopted from the French and it is not likely that the black flag was either, and there is no primary source reference to the name "Joli Rouge" for any flag, piratical or otherwise.

    Yet another theory states that "Jolly Roger" is an English corruption of "Ali Raja," the name of a Tamil pirate.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_roger#Origins_of_the_term

    Aug 02 07, 11:42 AM

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