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    Since World War II what areas, such as Biafra, have tried and failed to become independent nations?

    Question #55940. Asked by gmackematix.

    centerice

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but I'd say Chechnya.

    Mar 14 05, 10:30 PM
    gmackematix

    OK. That's almost certainly one, although I'm not sure the Chechens have finished yet.

    Mar 15 05, 1:35 AM
    Arpeggionist

    There was a wave of declarations of independece in 1948, 30 years after WWI was over when the British lost their mandate over any number of countries. The most famous declarations (countries that still remain independant) are Israel, India and Bangladesh, but they can't be the only ones.

    Mar 15 05, 2:50 AM
    Stew54

    I presume you're not after countries that have actually made it as independent states, gmack, nor movements that favour independence but have never had a taste of it (of which there are thousands)?

    For the purposes of this question, I've also discounted areas where there is currently effective actual independence but few outsiders recognise it, though it could be argued that these people have tried and failed to become independent I suppose. I'm thinking of places like South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia, Somaliland, Transdniestra, and maybe Northern Cyprus.

    In the same part of the world as Biafra there was Katanga, briefly independent in the early 1960s. Also, how about Western Sahara, occupied by Morocco since about 1970 but still recognised as a separate country by some nations. Some might argue that the State of Palestine falls into this category. Belarus may be heading that way, with a suspicion that it may cede its sovereignty back to Russia. I'd also suggest Somalia, independent from Italy in 1960 but for several years effectively a failed state where no-one has had de facto control and authority.

    Incidentally, Bangladesh became independent in 1971 not 1947/8, and from Pakistan not from Britain.


    Mar 15 05, 3:58 AM
    Baloo55th

    If you're counting Somaliland as not really independent (despite about 10 years of self government), you should also have Puntland next door to it. And then there are places like Hutt River Province.....

    Mar 15 05, 5:24 AM
    Stew54

    True enough. There's quite a few places with de facto independence but which aren't considered independent by other countries (or maybe by just one other country that has a vested interest).

    Another country that might be going the way of "failed independence" perhaps is Moldova, which doesn't seem viable as a state and may split with its constituent parts attaching themselves to Russia and Romania.

    Mar 15 05, 5:32 AM
    centerice

    Okay, I did misunderstand the question.
    If Chechnya is fighting a war for independence, that means to me that they tried and failed to become independent.

    Mar 15 05, 7:07 PM
    gmackematix

    I did say "OK" to Chechnya!
    You aren't to know what goes on in my head when I ask a question, but by "failed" I did mean not generally recognised as an independent nation now.

    It is interesting to realise just how many major attempted secessions from countries there have been although when I asked the question, I hoped it might throw up a few interesting "Passport to Pimlico" type incidents.

    Mar 15 05, 7:23 PM
    centerice

    I know you did say okay. I was just questioning my thought process, not yours. Sorry.

    Mar 15 05, 7:46 PM

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