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#58197. princess9
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How are Queen Elizabeth the first of England and Queen Isabel connected?
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lanfranco
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There have been many royal Isabels, Isabelles, and Isabellas. Which one do you have in mind?
Jul 06 05, 2:31 PM
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TabbyTom
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They have the same name.
Isabel is the Spanish form of the name (originally Hebrew) which is usually rendered in English as Elizabeth.
Jul 06 05, 4:20 PM
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lanfranco
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That IS clever, TT. Though princess seemed to be referring to a specific Queen Isabel. I could point out that Isabel of France, Queen of Edward II and mother of Edward III, was Elizabeth's 6-times-great grandmother -- at least on the paternal side. Elizabeth was also descended from her on the side of her mother, Elizabeth of York.
But your solution is more elegant, TT.
Jul 06 05, 4:28 PM
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TabbyTom
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Alternatively, we can take Isabel(la) of Castile, the wife of Ferdinand and sponsor of Christopher Columbus. Isabel(la) was the mother of Catherine of Aragon, who was the first wife of Henry VIII of England, who was the father of Elizabeth I by his second wife. Does this make Elizabeth something like the great-step-niece of Isabel(la)?
Jul 06 05, 5:48 PM
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lanfranco
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Technically, Elizabeth would have been the step-granddaughter of Isabell(a) of Castile, but only if you call Catherine of Aragon her "stepmother." (I don't think that works, given the timing of the divorce situation.) The whole thing is awfully messy.
No matter. They were all related in one way or another anyway.
Jul 06 05, 5:58 PM
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princess9
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I beg your pardon. I was referring to Queen Isabel of Castilla, and her husband, Ferdinand of Aragon. I apologize for forgetting to type that information, and I appreciate the answers you have given.
Jul 06 05, 7:48 PM
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SOTHC
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With reference to TT's first answer it does prove that the punchlines of certain jokes are lost in translation, i.e. the Knock knock joke where the punchline is "Elizabeth necessary on a bike"
Jul 07 05, 12:40 AM
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