In what verse in the Bible does it say, "Spare the rod, spoil the child"?

Sofie

"Spare the rod and spoil the child" is from Proverbs 13-24. Meaning the notion that children will only flourish if punished, physically or otherwise, for any wrongdoing. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/328950.html Sep 11 07, 9:09 AM

McGruff

Question #85666. JJandKJ6567 asks: In the bible , does it say " spare the rod, spoil the child" , if so where? Did alot of research but can only find Prov. 13:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lanfranco posts: Try Proverbs 23: 13-14. "Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. If you beat him with the rod you will save his soul from Sheol." "Sheol" is often translated as "hell," but it hasa more general meaning of death or the grave. I'm using the New Oxford Annotated Bible. Sep 11 07, 9:36 AM Sep 11 07, 9:45 AM

MonkeyOnALeash

Sheol = (Heb., "the all-demanding world" = Gr. Hades, "the unknown region"), the invisible world of departed souls. Also "The Place of darkness" "Sheol is the common destination of both the righteous and the unrighteous dead; the righteous Job sees it as his destination (Job 3). In the Book of Job, while Satan is portrayed as tormenting and testing the living, he does not appear to have any particular presidency over Sheol, or to dwell in Sheol." http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=sheol -------------------------------------------------------- The Catholic Perspective.... http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07207a.htm -------------------------------------------------------- Proverbs 13:24 He who spares the rod hates his son,but he who loves him is careful to discipline him. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=13&verse=24&version=9&context=verse Sep 11 07, 9:50 AM

myrab51

Contrary to popular belief, this exact statement was not found in the Bible. It was from a poem written by Samual Butler in 1664. “Hudibras” If matrimony and hanging go By dest'ny, why not whipping too? What med'cine else can cure the fits Of lovers when they lose their wits? Love is a boy by poets stil'd Then spare the rod and spoil the child http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudibras#Significance Sep 11 07, 10:00 AM

star_gazer

myrab is correct, there are many "righteous religious sayings" that do not appear in Scripture. Another well know one is "God helps those who help themselves." Sep 11 07, 2:31 PM

Baloo55th

Which doesn't apply to children at the dinner table, however..... Sep 11 07, 2:37 PM

Prefdoors

And.......God help those caught helping themselves Sep 11 07, 3:16 PM

MonkeyOnALeash

Not that sort of help, Pref! Sep 11 07, 10:19 PM

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