How is a tenth century figure allegedly eaten by mice connected to a woman whose later reputation was fraudulently enhanced with a mouse?

queproblema

Here's a stab in the dark to get going. Popiel was a 9th-century prince who, along with his princess consort, was eaten by mice. http://krolpopiel.tripod.com/english/ksiaze.htm Does the second part have anything to do with "Flowers for Algernon"? Nov 10 07, 9:41 PM

gmackematix

It wasn't a prince or "Flowers of Algernon". Like the mice, you'll have to keep gnawing at this one. Nov 10 07, 10:20 PM

queproblema

OK, not a prince, then, a bishop, Hatto of Mainz. Notice how Mainz is spelled on this page. http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/gask/tales/MOUSE.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatto_II Robert Southey wrote a poem, "God's Judgment On A Wicked Bishop," about the event, which seems to me simply another version of the Popiel legend. Longfellow alludes to him with a far lighter touch in "The Children's Hour." Thinking more clearly, the teacher wasn't fraudulently enhanced by Algernon at all; poor Charlie was. On this I will have to gnaw a bit. Nov 10 07, 10:59 PM

peasypod

....and lookie what the cat dragged in. Welcome home gmack. ;) Nov 11 07, 5:08 AM

queproblema

OK, cat, go catch the mouse.... Nov 11 07, 10:48 AM

gmackematix

Qp is half there. Can Peasy chase the tale to its conclusion? Nov 11 07, 11:02 AM

queproblema

Oh, THAT kind of a mouse.... Joyce Hatto was a pianist who allowed digitally manipulated recordings to be sold as if she had actually performed them. "Late in her life, doctored copies of commercial recordings made by other pianists were released under her name, earning her high praise from critics. The deception only came to light a few months after her death." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Hatto Nov 11 07, 1:11 PM

queproblema

Mmm, is a mouse really used when a track is digitally mixed? The mixer boards I've seen just have knobs. Nov 11 07, 1:19 PM

queproblema

This is what I'm thinking of; it's called a lot of things but not exactly "mixer board." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixing_console Nov 11 07, 5:12 PM

gmackematix

Of course you are correct and the fraud was only detected by software, which made something of a mockery of the idea that music critics can tell which pianist is playing a particular piece. The mixer board did cross my mind, but I figured that a mouse was probably used to fraudulently label the recordings and I so wanted to use that mouse connection in the question... Nov 11 07, 5:59 PM

queproblema

By all means, let's retain the mouse! You crafted a splendid question. I confess to starting down a Disney Mouseketeers trail, one of whom recently served time for securities fraud. That, however, did not enhance her reputation! Nov 12 07, 1:21 AM