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It's the white elephant in the room, Cym.
So big nobody knows what to do with it, how to stop it,how to clean it up....just look away:-(
Reply #501. May 05 10, 8:50 PM
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Cymruambyth 
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Hmm, Poneke, that's probably the same reason no one has raised the subject of the financial crisis in Greece and the major protests seen in Greek streets today. Nations cannot live beyond their means any more than individual people can. Debt is bound to catch up with the debtors in the end.
One wonders if Spain, Portugal and Ireland will end up in the same boat as Greece.
Reply #502. May 05 10, 10:26 PM
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Nice comeback Cym:-)
You're right,Greece isn't the only democracy struggling right now. With the average Greek feeling being that the wealthy aren't paying their fair share of tax. Off to start a thread....
Reply #503. May 05 10, 10:56 PM
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daver852
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I was watching the news when the market took its dive. Fortunately, my losses are limited by the fact that I have no money, so it didn't affect me. I wonder if anyone jumped out of a window on Wall Street :)
Reply #506. May 06 10, 10:19 PM
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pmarney
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I think it's going to effect evryone and I also think the way the elction is going in the Uk that will effect all the markets as well
Reply #507. May 06 10, 11:10 PM
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Dizart
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It's a hung parliament in the UK, and the markets have taken another dive.
Reply #508. May 07 10, 4:51 AM
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pmarney
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Don't know why they call it a hung parliment here when it should be called a coalition (which is what it is) and everyone works togeather like they do in so many other countries. Instead of argueing they should just forget Party Political points and agree what's best for the Country and get on with it
Reply #509. May 07 10, 6:13 AM
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REDVIKING57
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The 'Markets' would have taken a dive whatever the UK election result. That's how these modern-day Robber Barons make their money - "Rising market,make money. Plunging market,sell short and make even more money!"
Pete - sadly,a true Coalition Government,that puts the interests of the country as a whole first, is not going to happen - ever! Unless we have a truely 'Hung Parliament'.
"Hang 'em High!"
Reply #510. May 07 10, 10:59 AM
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Daver, it's very troubling, and it's not confined to India; it's happening all over the world. The only surprise is that the girl seems to have been killed by her mother. It's usually the fathers, brothers and uncles who pitch in to keep the family name unbesmirched by despatching miscreant daughters, sisters and nieces.
Paul, to get "a true Coalition Government, that puts the interests of the country as a whole first" we'd probably need to be fighting in WW3. Some choice.
Reply #511. May 07 10, 11:53 AM
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Cymruambyth
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Believe it or not, Lesley, it is not unusual for mum to have a hand in murders of this sort. We recently had an "honour" killing case in Canada. A young woman, her aunt and her two younger sisters were killed by the older sister's father and brothers and her mother was complicit in the murder. The reason? The older daughter was dating a young man of whom the parents did not approve. Her aunt was supporting her choice and it was held by the murderers that the two younger girls would be unduly influenced by their wayward older sister! The father, the mother and the brothers were arrested and they've been charged with first degree murder. They're claiming it is a matter of religious freedom. Canadian courts will not look kindly on that defence.
Reply #512. May 07 10, 4:41 PM
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AntonLaVey
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Religious freedom? Doesn't the bible say "Thou shalt not kill"? lol
Question mark inside or outside the quotation marks? They both look funny to me and that's why I can never remember.
Reply #513. May 07 10, 4:50 PM
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I understand that mother is often complicit, but it's normally in a supporting role. I thought it was usually the men who did the killing.
I am stunned by your news, that four women had to die to preserve the "honour" of the family. I've never heard of more than one woman being killed. And the mother was complicit but I wonder how much of a choice she had. One wobble in her resolve and it could have been five. I also wonder what sort of a life she'll have, after her three daughters have been killed.
We have exempted Sikh men from wearing helmets when they're riding a bike, because they won't go on over a turban, and (I think) from wearing police helmets. More recently, a Hindu man in England fought for the right to be burnt (after his death) in the open air, something which was always strongly resisted - use a crematorium, or have your funeral pyre somewhere it's not illegal - but he was eventually given dispensation for his open-air pyre. We do tend to bend to claims of religious freedom, but there are limits. Mass murder is well beyond these limits.
ALV, it depends which bible you read. Choose your bible according to the answer you want.
Reply #514. May 07 10, 7:35 PM
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redwaldo
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I like the Gospel According to Mark!
Reply #515. May 07 10, 7:49 PM
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Cymruambyth
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Me, too, redwaldo. It's short, pithy and to the point, although Mark didn't write it (it's actually Peter's gospel, dictated to Mark), but what the hey!
Reply #516. May 08 10, 10:10 AM
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REDVIKING57
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I would expect nothing less from a German Shepherd. If they ask nicely,he'll probably re-build the workshop for them,too!
Reply #518. May 11 10, 8:48 AM
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pmarney
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I would like a Government, anyone know if we are any nearer getting one?
Reply #519. May 11 10, 9:03 AM
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jonnowales
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It looks as if it is very close now!
Reply #520. May 11 10, 10:36 AM
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