Uglybird is an excellent author. I do wish he were still writing. :)|
Little Red Balloon has always been a favourite.
Reply #161. Dec 10 10, 10:16 AM
I have played just under 14,000 quizzes and am extremely baffled why some quizzes written in 2000-2002 were given this award. There were a lot better quizzes in that time that were not given the thumbs-up.
I am wondering about how to get the thumb in Music and Sports. For Sports you have to get an obscure idea and follow through (however, I think too many are given to Baseball and American football teams and not enough UK Football, a bias I think...).
In Music I am completely 100% unsure about Music and Movies...
Reply #162. Feb 09 11, 12:09 PM
Re: "[I] am extremely baffled why some quizzes written in 2000-2002 were given this award."|
-Back then, standards were WAY different and the expectations for a clever, well-written quiz have changed significantly. I assure you that most if not all of the quizzes made in 2000 would not get the award (let alone go online) if they were submitted today.
Re: "There were a lot better quizzes in that time that were not given the thumbs-up."
-The issue is subjectivity. Since the editor is the only one the quiz needs to appeal to, it could be any quiz that sparks interest. Some editors will look for quizzes that impress them, some will look for quizzes they feel should garner more plays, etc.
Re: "I am wondering about how to get the thumb in Music and Sports."
-I wonder the same thing. It's not easy to get an EC in any category. In almost 1,100 quizzes I've only gotten four (in only two categories).
You're right- a lot in Sports are somewhat out-of-the-box and well-executed to boot; it's up to Nightmare and Gtho4, though. But if you notice, 1 in 6 of the past thirty quizzes given the EC were in Sports.
Movies is just as hard to judge. So are Music and TV for that matter. Entertainment is highly-subjective.
I haven't given up on trying to get new ECs, but I'm not trying for them (if that makes sense). I can't control if my quizzes get the thumbs up. If I didn't have faith that my quizzes were good, I wouldn't submit them. It's a nice treat to get the thumbs up but I just enjoy writing. :)
As an aside, and in my opinion, those who are just trying to get the EC for the badge (which I've had some authors outright say to me) are those the least likely to get it because their writing often feels forced. But again, I give out ECs based on different criteria than other editors. And that's just the way it works.
Reply #163. Feb 09 11, 12:23 PM
Is it possible for another editor to give an EC, or just the one that put the quiz online?|
Reply #164. Feb 09 11, 4:36 PM
Others can, too. I once got a thumbs uop awarded several months later by another editor - a very pleasant surprise.|
Reply #165. Feb 09 11, 4:39 PM
I enjoy reading this thread because it often pushes me towards quizzes I might otherwise have missed. But has any quiz actually received an EC after being mentioned here?|
Reply #166. Feb 09 11, 5:45 PM
From my quick search through all the links here, only 5. And they were first page quizzes.|
So they haven't been awarded from nominations on this thread for quite a while...
Reply #167. Feb 09 11, 6:33 PM
The thread is monitored, rest assured. :)|
Reply #168. Feb 09 11, 6:35 PM
Re: "It's not easy to get an EC in any category. In almost 1,100 quizzes I've only gotten four (in only two categories)."|
You just added one more category, Kyle. Congrats! :) A nice take on a topic that has already been covered quite a few times.
Reply #169. Feb 09 11, 8:56 PM
Lol, creepy coincidence. :p|
Reply #170. Feb 09 11, 9:07 PM
I think Kyle summed it up nicely. There are many reasons why we sit down to write quizzes, but the EC shouldn't be. I'll admit that I was absolutely over the moon when I'd gotten my first (and only) but I've put that award down to all the work put into the quizzes before-hand, getting better at what you do, finding ways to make what you're creating as original as possible, as much as the quality of the quiz that got the EC.|
Zorba's last comment gives you an indication as to how tough it will be in the future ... "it's a nice take on a subject that's been covered a lot" .... we have over 100,000 quizzes on line now. Creating one that's original and stands out amongst that many won't be easy.
Get inspired by 'Field of Dreams' ... if you build it they will come
Reply #171. Feb 09 11, 9:26 PM
Well put, Pollucci. I don't think you can 'plan' to write an EC quiz, since it's a subjective view of a particular editor on the day he/she edits it. Thanks for the reminder about uglybird's quizzes. I giggled my way through 'Unofficial Fun Trivia Symbols' last night and loved it.|
Reply #172. Feb 10 11, 1:23 AM
Re: "From my quick search through all the links here, only 5. And they were first page quizzes."|
Actually, there are quizzes throughout that have received EC. I can spot one from Correspondguy and another from Squisher a little while back (when they were released).
Reply #173. Feb 12 11, 8:13 PM
I know I will never get the Editor's Choice badge. If my newest quiz isn't worthy, then no quiz I will write will be worthy. That's about the best I can do. I'm ok with it though. |
Reply #174. Feb 12 11, 8:50 PM
You should always be writing your best. You'll probably say this now, but the next time you'll think- this'll be the one. ;)|
Reply #175. Feb 12 11, 8:53 PM
From what I've read, Editor's Choice makes 1% look like a lot. 1% is 1/100, 2/200, 3/300, etc. So, let's say there's 550 quizzes authored and 2 are EC. Follow me here, 2/550 equals 1/275. I'd say roughly .33% of the quizzes are EC. And the odds are 100% your quiz got EC if you go to your FT Mailbox and find an EC badge congratulations. :)|
Reply #176. Feb 12 11, 9:17 PM
It's actually much less than 0.33% if I recall.|
Reply #177. Feb 12 11, 9:26 PM
Maybe .31%? 2/600 is .33% and 2/400 is .25%. In between, 2/450 would be .27%, 2/500 would be .29%, and 2/550 would be .31%. Hopefully my brain is working this time.|
Reply #178. Feb 12 11, 9:46 PM
There's not really a formula for determining the frequency of EC quizzes. Editors hand them out when they feel a quiz should receive the award.|
At one point, if I recall, the number was under 0.1%
We have over 100,000 quizzes and only 300 are listed on the EC listing (which goes back seven years). We probably have under 600 which, out of 100,000, is only 0.006%.
This is, of course, if my math hasn't faltered since high school...which is the time I vowed never to do math again.
Over the past years since the introduction of the Lounge and the Author's challenge list, more ECs have been rewarded more frequently than in the past. Eight of the commissions have at least one EC and two of them have two. We've been able to facilitate some excellent quiz-writing from avid authors who enjoy what they do. While the ECs are a great perk, there are tons of great quizzes out there to be enjoyed- many of which will be liked more by other players than the editors. It's not quite 1%- it may not even be close- but the more quizzes that're written, the more likely we may see more (in my opinion).
Reply #179. Feb 12 11, 9:51 PM
I completely agree. A bunch of editors and a quiz. The quiz is creative, well written, no typos, full of learning information, and a bit humorous. And all the editors agree that it's fit to be an EC.|
Of course, there can't be a formula because the EC quizzes are entirely made by the editors. So it could be 2 in a row, or 100 quizzes apart. Either way, it's the kind of quiz that authors want and the editors like.
Reply #180. Feb 12 11, 10:09 PM
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