| lesley153
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Bad luck, Gary, that you gave in and took pain-killers, but good that they helped. I hope it helped - I'd feel quite good on an unbroken six-hour sleep.
I got close to that except my cousin rang me and woke me up, because he hadn't understood an email I'd sent him late yesterday. Surely the best way to query it would have been by replying - by email? As it was, I didn't even know which of my emails he meant, so I couldn't begin to work out what it was he didn't understand.
I couldn't face talking to him, so I let it go to voicemail, listened to his message, decided that it wasn't urgent, and got another hour's sleep. Then I fell out of bed and started desperately getting ready for my appointment, and I heard him ring the landline. Then, when I was there and had my mobile phone switched off, he left another voicemail asking me to ring him as soon as I could, because he was going out.
I rang him back eventually and mentioned that he had woken me up with his first call. "Oh," he said, in surprise that the whole world isn't up when he is. I then told him that if I can't ring him I can't ring him, and there is no point leaving messages every five minutes - doing that won't miraculously transport me to my computer. I think he's got the message.
And another cousin, after I'd written to him that I'm pleased if I can get moving by 11.30am, emailed back with: "For the rest of us, 11.30 is half-way through the day." I didn't try answering him. I would probably have sent both our computers into meltdown if I had.
"Early to bed, early to rise..." is a load of meaningless, sanctimonious Victorian claptrap. Don't you just love the sanctimonious idiots who believe it, and look down their noses at me because they get up earlier than I do? No, not really! |
Reply #101. Nov 27 09, 4:04 PM
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Everyone always tells me that, too, that half the day has gone by by the time I get out of bed. What does it matter to them? If I have a job I have to be at for for 8 a.m., then fine, I am there. But on the weekend or a day off, if I choose to get up at noon, that's what I'll do. A) It's not like I have much to do anyway, and B) If I do have something to do, there is still quite a bit of day left to do it in, not to mention the evening and later on at night, when everyone who got up at the crack of dawn is in bed.
Reply #102. Nov 29 09, 1:44 PM
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| lesley153
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If they bothered to stop and think about it (unlikely), they would know that it doesn't matter one bit. It all comes back to the same thing: people love to feel superior, and the best way to do that is to find an excuse to kick other people. And it's easier for them, because they're in a nine-to-one majority, and it's always easier to feel right when you have mob backing.
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise." Nonsense.
"One hour's sleep before midnight is worth two after." Bigger nonsense.
There was a ten-minute TV Doctor slot a few days ago, and I watched it because it was about insomnia. I hoped it might help. It didn't. But it cheered me up when it finished with this line:
"There is evidence to suggest that night owls are of higher intelligence than early birds."
Of course, this may be just as silly as the Victorian homilies, but consider:
We don't need to chant stupid rhymes - early to bed, ner ner ner - to justify our behaviour and condemn others';
and almost every member of FT is a raving insomniac. |
Reply #103. Nov 29 09, 2:09 PM
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I had a job once that involved workig from 3pm until 11pm. Of course getting home at midnight did not involve jumping into bed immediately...I mean does the average person that gets off at say 5pm go home and jump into bed? Anyway, usually at about 5am, I would go to bed. Inevitably, the phone would start ringing at 8am..."why are you still in bed?" someone would ask...well, duh! The point I am trying to make is that not everyone keeps the same hours.
Reply #104. Nov 29 09, 3:40 PM
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MarchHare007
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"We don't need to chant stupid rhymes - early to bed, ner ner ner - to justify our behaviour and condemn others';
and almost every member of FT is a raving insomniac. "
LOL Lesley - I resemble that! :)
And I agree. I have always been a night owl - I write some of my best work between 12am and breakfast. Then I need a break so I sleep - make perfect sense to me.
Same as I eat when I'm hungry and not by the clock.
I used to go to bed early (because I would meltdown if I didn't!) and I'd end up awake by 2am - and that killed anything I supposedly may have gained by falling asleep earlier.
Now if I'm in pre-meltdown-mode I curl up in bed and read, with my MP3 tuned to classical radio. I've found that makes the tiredness drop away in a very short time.
For every other time - there's .....coffee! :)
For those 'Early to Bed ........ who think it's Such a Virtue...... It probably keeps Them going by justifying their regime and it's so Good they simply Must Share! *groan*
My mobile phone is on silent (if kids are out and about)or switched off - If anyone wants to they can leave me a message.
My landline is turned down at night because I don't want to talk to anyone - and if I should be woken by a ringing phone then quite seriously They Really don't want to talk to me! *GRRRR!*
I've had the "Oh did I wake you up? - Sorry I'll call you later when you're awake."
To which I hung up - and Un.Plugged the phone.
Couldn't go back to sleep but it satisfied my annoyance button! *smug*
Reply #105. Nov 29 09, 4:37 PM
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| lesley153
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"...not everyone keeps the same hours." How does one make that point to a sanctimonious cousin, without braining him? And another one - the hours we keep are different at different times of our lives: we haven't got our lifetime sleeping hours engraved on our birth certificates.
Is it my imagination but is "did I wake you?" usually followed by "why are you still in bed?" and rarely or never by "sorry"?
I'm pleased that I can't hear the landline when I'm in bed. Means I never have to worry about being disturbed, except once when I told my erstwhile "friend" Merv that I was feeling rough and was going to have an early night: but that it was safe to leave me a message on the landline, because that wouldn't disturb me.
"What shall I do then - call your mobile?"
NOOOO!
I've always taken the mobile to bed so that Jonathan could contact me at any time. It was priceless when he was post-op, because he could call me when he woke up, and tell me that he was ready for his pain-killers and a glass of milk to take them with. Soon after he moved out, he rang me at 3am, but only a couple of times. I've continued to leave it on out of habit, even when I really didn't need to, like when I stayed in his flat in March. If I'd switched it off, my cousin wouldn't have been able to tell his wife to tell me that his father had died... at six o'clock in the morning!
But last night I was so desperate for sleep, and worried that my cousin would forget my request not to phone in the morning, that I warned Jonathan, and switched off. He lived, and I wondered why it had taken me so long. Tempted to do it again. |
Reply #106. Nov 29 09, 5:09 PM
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Any 'sorry' attached to the occasional waking phone call has been very offhand, Lesley.
Love the Jonathon pre-op phone call tale! lol Cute!
Yes the 'death warning' phone call at crack of dawn - or the middle of the night - If it's bad news and not My Crew - wait till after breakfast!
I have waited till a reasonable hour to tell others of family deaths - maybe I'm reasonable! ;)
Quirky story - I have a close girlfriend who has a (now) 22 year old son.
When she was away in Europe with a friend and her two daughters (husband home for work and to stay with their son) a few years ago, her mobile phone rang - at 3am.
"Mum"
'Yes?'
"Where's my car keys?"
'It's 3 o'clock in the morning!'
"Oh.....(giggle)..sorry. Do you know where they are?"
'No can't see them from here - just keep looking.'
"oh okay."
Two days later the same thing happened and after her older daughter threw the phone across the room saying "It's Your Son.."
she answered .....
'Yes?'
"Mum, Where's Dad?"
'He's not Here - call him on his mobile!'
"Oh okay!"
He didn't get the time thing at all but his sister had threatened him with something pretty interesting so he didn't ring again! lol
Reply #107. Nov 29 09, 5:44 PM
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| lesley153
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All suggestions from your friend's daughter will be gratefully received. No threat too bland. :)
The only other person I know who doesn't get the time thing is a friend who comes from Singapore and is forever going back to see family. When she's been lounging around having a lazy 10am breakfast, and sent me a text to tell me how lovely it is, it's been my 5am. "Oh," she said - all innocent-like, just like my cousin - "I always switch my phone off at bedtime." I think she's got it now.
Tonight, once again, I have filial blessing to switch my phone off. This could become a new habit! |
Reply #108. Nov 29 09, 7:18 PM
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MarchHare007
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Mmmmm having the phone stuffed down the throat and sitting on a 240v phone charger was suggested as I recall Lesley! ;)
Turning mobile phones Off and not answering phones can be tricky - our childhood training I think has a lot to answer for!
However, as officially certified big people - we can ignore both And turn them off.
Saves worrying about flat batteries as well! :)
Reply #109. Nov 29 09, 7:39 PM
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""I'm pleased that I can't hear the landline when I'm in bed. Means I never have to worry about being disturbed, except once when I told my erstwhile "friend" Merv that I was feeling rough and was going to have an early night: but that it was safe to leave me a message on the landline, because that wouldn't disturb me.
"What shall I do then - call your mobile?"
NOOOO!""
Lmao! I am so glad you brought back the Merv anecdotes. Thanks for providing me with my giggle for the night. Lesley, the early bird catches the worm. What the early birds forget is, I am still up and conscious when they are rising and have already taken the worm. Ner ner.
Sorry that I am just not the type to struggle to live a "normal" lifestyle just because some people think I should live the same way as them. Good for them if they enjoy waking up at 6am, with their eyes feeling like bricks as they take their first footsteps in the chilly winter mornings. I don't!
I used to sleep three or four hours a night 3am - 7am to get to college. Now, my schedule is such that I stay up all night, go to college and then go to bed. It is wonderful and has always been what I've wanted to do. It saves the bother of dragging yourself out of bed on that cold morning to go to a lecture that you don't really want to go to. Instead, I am up and about and it makes it easier for me to function.
I have always enjoyed the peaceful nature of the overnight hours, if other people don't, fine. It's all good.
Reply #110. Nov 29 09, 7:53 PM
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| lesley153
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Ooh! love that image!
Perhaps it's because of our childhood training that people think they have a right to expect an answer to a doorbell or the phone. So they keep ringing and leaving messages, as though it'll make a difference, or they lean on the doorbell.
The most annoying one ever was the woman who rang my mobile while I was on the landline. I rang her back.
"I was on the other phone."
"Yes I know - that's why I phoned you on your mobile."
My past is strewn with people I don't speak to now. But she was the one who came nearest to have the phone rammed down her throat. |
Reply #111. Nov 29 09, 8:01 PM
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| lesley153
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Jon, I'm sorry you've missed the Merv stories!
"The early bird catches the worm." Yes, another piece of bullying piffle.
"...if other people don't, fine. It's all good." It would be even better if these "other people" were as tolerant, and didn't think their way was the only way. |
Reply #112. Nov 29 09, 8:04 PM
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| bubbafudd
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If you only have one eye...are you blinking or winking?
Reply #113. Nov 29 09, 8:04 PM
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MarchHare007
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lol Lesley - I also miss the 'Merv Stories'! Can you make some up? ;)
As for the early morning worm......bleck!
What is it about having a mobile phone And a landline - that people ring one when the other is engaged! *huff*
That's usually why my mobile runs silent.
The same friend with the interesting son - will often be speaking in to both her phones when I call at her house - and having two totally unrelated conversations! I'm bad at times but not that bad! lol
Makes sense to me also Jon - sometimes I miss having a house to myself. I'd much rather keep owl hours.
Reply #114. Nov 29 09, 8:19 PM
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| lesley153
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Merv retired a few years ago, and his world has generally revolved around money, so it made sense that he would be thinking of supplementing his pension before he'd even got it.
He told me he already had five local women who wanted him to do gardening for them. "Make that six!"
I've got a shredder, which helps lopped-off branches take up less space, and a green bin for gardening waste, which the council collects once a fortnight, but there's still going to be more which will need carting away.
Small problem: Merv can't drive. Getting drunk and falling off your bike can make a mess of you, but will do a lot less damage than driving a car drunk. He said he could use his bike basket to go to the tip. How many bicycle baskets can you fill with the cuttings from a 120' lawn? So I said forget it - anything that needs to go in the tip can go in my car. OK - sorted.
He asked me what day was best for me. It doesn't really matter. All I need to be there for is to pay him, and I can always drop it through his letterbox if I miss him.
We talked about the going rate for keeping a garden tidy: whether he would come in the morning or afternoon: weekly or fortnightly: how many hours he would spend on it.
Details sorted. When's he going to start? Not immediately. He's going to have a few weeks off after his retirement, and then he'll start on the gardens.
A few weeks came and went, and then a few more weeks came and went. At last, he said he'd been mowing some lawns.
"Aah - you've started - so you'll be starting here soon?"
"Here? what do you mean?"
"Remember I asked you to add me to your list of people who wanted you to mow their lawns."
"When was that?"
"About when you retired. You had visions of going to the tip with a bike basket full of grass cuttings. I said I could do it in one trip with the car."
"Nah, don't remember."
"We talked about when you'd come, how often, how many hours, how much money... "
"Nah - you never asked me."
That was pure vintage Merv. I didn't need to make it up.
Night! |
Reply #115. Nov 29 09, 8:49 PM
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| totalgothchick
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I feel sorry for you.
Just listen to The Cookie Monster rap for a few and you will be happy.XD
Reply #116. Nov 29 09, 9:56 PM
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bionic4ever
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"Almost every member of FT is a raving insomniac."
Truer words were never spoken, Lesley!
Reply #117. Nov 29 09, 10:31 PM
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Professer
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Cure for FT insomnia get a very bad painful foot, take some strong pain killers that makes you dozy all day. I have had 3 bad days wher i have hardly played FT and i am missing it.
Reply #118. Nov 30 09, 3:40 AM
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MarchHare007
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Oh Professor I'm sorry to hear you're still having pain!
Here's a pain easing hug - because I can't do more! :(
((((((((()))))))))))
Reply #119. Nov 30 09, 4:42 AM
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| lesley153
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Gary, has it gone down, at all, or do you need a new GP?
((((((( Group hug. ))))))) |
Reply #120. Nov 30 09, 6:09 AM
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