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Garry, is there any chance you will begin a blog and tell us all about your adventures at the library?
I hope you do!
Reply #2301. Feb 10 11, 3:43 PM
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daymare
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Lesley, please explain more about your loft.
Where I live, they are open area rooms (often on an upper floor) where people have offices or rumpus rooms.
Reply #2302. Feb 10 11, 3:45 PM
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Jazmee27
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"Garry, is there any chance you will begin a blog and tell us all about your adventures at the library?"
Anything you write will be read with interest :)
Reply #2303. Feb 10 11, 4:00 PM
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| lesley153
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Garry, I agree - I'm sure you'll have lots of observations and anecdotes.
My loft has just been used as a dumping-ground. Originally, lofts were just unused space under a roof designed to let rain run off. It's only comparatively recently that people have thought of using them for anything, either storage space or living space, or somewhere to dump all your rubbish when you move out. (Yes, I know people who have done that.)
Unless a loft's converted for human habitation, outside air rushes in and out of the spaces between the tiles, and there's no floor to walk on, just joists to tiptoe on very carefully. I've just had insulation laid over the joists to keep the heat in. Till now, I've been heating the roof space and the heavens. You can always tell a house with an uninsulated loft - it's the one the snow's melted off.
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Reply #2304. Feb 10 11, 4:18 PM
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honeybee4
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Mine is like yours, Lesley. A few years back we were having our house reroofed and wouldn't you know it, we had a heavy rain. Even though we had the exposed part of the roof covered, the rain still came in. The kitchen ceiling and all the wet insulation fell in. While cleaning it up, I found bone china cups so thin you can see through them, with the Weimar Republic name on them. There were a few more dishes and what nots that fell too. They were all in perfect condition, unlike my ceiling.
Reply #2305. Feb 10 11, 4:39 PM
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Lochalsh
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I guess your "loft" is our "attic," just as your "lagging" is our "insulating." (I will refrain from quoting Cousin George here.)
Hugs, hugs, hugs to you, Lesley Lou.
Reply #2306. Feb 10 11, 4:57 PM
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Lochalsh
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HB, did you find any...pottery? :)
Reply #2307. Feb 10 11, 4:58 PM
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MotherGoose
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About two years ago, we had some of our roof space converted into an attic. Australian houses almost never have attics included when they are built and it is rare for people to install them afterwards, but we did, and it was money well spent.
Australian houses rarely have basements either, so there really isn't anywhere to store all those things that you need but only use occasionally - like picnic gear, Christmas decorations, suitcases, etc.
It involved putting in a floor over the joists, kickboards along the sides, lining the entire space with a sort-of padding (don't know the correct terminology) to make it dustproof, and installing a pull-down ladder in the ceiling of the hallway for access. We also installed a skylight for better visibility and a ventilation system so that it doesn't get too hot up there in summer. It cost us just under $10,000 for 14 sq. metres.
It was one of the best things we ever did! But I am very particular as to what gets stored up there, and made it abundantly clear to the family that we weren't going to create a fire hazard by storing lots of useless junk.
Reply #2308. Feb 10 11, 5:13 PM
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Lochalsh
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So there's roof space, and there's attic. I guess the difference is that an attic is dedicated space and not just an architectural necessity?
Sometimes the simplest words are the ones most likely to trip me up. Must be the weather. :) (Speaking of which: I'd love to put my shovel away forever.)
Reply #2309. Feb 10 11, 5:22 PM
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garrysouders
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Just made it home and read the comments about puting the library stuff on my blog, I will do that. I can tell you I have already seen some interesting stuff. Right now we are still digging out of the last snow storm and it is horrid.
Reply #2310. Feb 10 11, 5:50 PM
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| lesley153
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I've always called the roof space a loft. An attic is what some other people call the same thing, and a garret is what Bohemian artists starved in. So I thought I'd search for an answer, and here are some of them.
"A loft can be an upper storey or attic in a building, directly under the roof. Alternatively, it can be a loft apartment which is a large adaptable open space either created or converted for residential use."
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loft
"A loft conversion is the process of transforming an empty attic space into a functional room, typically used as either living accommodation or storage space."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loft_conversion
"An attic is a space found directly below the pitched roof of a house or other building (also called garret, loft or sky parlor).
"In some places "attic" is used more specifically to apply to lofts which have boarded floors and ceilings, and usually windows or skylights, and then "loft" is kept to mean a dark, unboarded roof-space which lacks these features."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attic
A lot of people have posted on line to ask what the difference is. Here's one of many:
"Is there a diffence between an attic and a loft? or are they just different names for the same thing?"
Most respondents didn't think there was a difference. Here are two answers:
1. Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
"Same thing"
2. "Same
"English = loft
"US = Attic "
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080417062840AAcBY0h
I am none the wiser for any of this.
Q Do I have an insulated attic or a lagged loft?
A Yes.
Q Yes what?
A Yes please?
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Judy, what a rotten thing to happen to your roof. What did you do with the Weimar Republic bone china? Would anyone want to buy it?
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Lochalsh, I've given up!
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MotherGoose, you had roof space converted to attic, I could have a loft conversion, which means converting my loft to living space, and other people have attics converted to lofts. I'm wondering if the only difference is where you live. Mine isnt a fire hazard now, because it's empty. I hope that's how it works.
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Garry, that's a good idea. I shall look forward to it.
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Reply #2311. Feb 11 11, 12:49 PM
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honeybee4
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Lesley, I found a special place in my China cabinet for them. I will keep them. They have something like a coat of arms that says Weimer, and underneath they say Germany, and underneath that is a date of 1-16-19. They have a floral pattern in pinkish flowers around the rim. It would be nice to know if they are worth anything. I looked them up on e-bay and found similar ones for $4.00 each. Are there any collectors out there who would know anything about them?
Reply #2312. Feb 11 11, 2:30 PM
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| lesley153
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The prices on eBay don't make much sense. I'd have thought that very fine bona china would be worth more than that, and even more with a logo like Weimar! I just had a thought: there's a date on them - could they have been made for a special occasion?
If nobody here can help, could you find a local auction to ask at, or use an online valuation site? The only disadvantage is that the sites charge, and auction houses may not charge, or won't if you're going to sell through them.
Good luck - please let us know how you get on. |
Reply #2313. Feb 11 11, 3:52 PM
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honeybee4
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I am not sure if they are bone china or porcelain. They look like bone china, because they don't have the shine that porcelain does. We have appraisers come to town every once in a while and they will look at your pieces for free. I will more than likely give them to my oldest son.
Reply #2314. Feb 11 11, 4:09 PM
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| s-m-w
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If marked with Germany the production would be after 1887
Would need to see the mark to give a closer date... Sorry if no help HB.
Steve
Reply #2315. Feb 11 11, 4:33 PM
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| lesley153
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Free appraisals? We like that!
SMW, did you spot this in HB's post?
"They have something like a coat of arms that says Weimer, and underneath they say Germany, and underneath that is a date of 1-16-19."
What happened on 16.1.19? According to Wiki, it was a few days before some elections, and some rival politicians were killed, but that's all I could find. Must be more than that to have such a specific date. |
Reply #2316. Feb 11 11, 5:28 PM
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honeybee4
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I found the exact mark this morning but I didn't put it in my favorites. Just spent a couple hours looking for it but can't find it. I will.
Reply #2317. Feb 11 11, 6:55 PM
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| lesley153
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| Why is it that something we found fairly easily the first time we looked has disappeared off the face of the earth when you try to find it again? Judy, is it lurking somewhere in your "history" lists? |
Reply #2318. Feb 11 11, 7:44 PM
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honeybee4
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It did show Germany. I wasn't sure.
Reply #2320. Feb 11 11, 7:46 PM
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