Lesley if I didn't post about my original blacking out, put it down to "Senior Moment". 'cos I thought I had, but maybe not...soooooooooo:-|
Pam had a day off work flexi-leave, so we had done a "round robin" trip in the car, Council re-cycling tip, B&Q, Tesco, Dobies Garden Centre, etc......got back about 1230, and I put car in garage. Went in, made sandwiches for lunch, sat on settee with plate on lap, and suddenly felt hot, faint and was breathing rapidly and shallowly. I have had something like that before, with this gastric problem, end result was a "food poisoning" type severe "nasty", which was what I thought might be happening. "I put my plate on low table, and said "I don't feel like this". Told Pam what was wrong, and she said, "Well sit back, not forward".
So I did so...................next thing I recall was seeing Paramedic in front of me!
It was (to me) just like I had been asleep......woke up perfectly "with it". It seems I was out of it for around 5-7 minutes. Weird it was Lesley, as the time interval from feeling perfectly normal, to unconsciousness, about 5 minutes flat! Came to feeling perfectly all right......but was whipped off to A&E and the rest is history as they say.
Gary what do they DO with all that blood? I must have been drained of enough to satisfy a veritable army of vampires!
Reply #5041. Sep 03 12, 1:39 PM
|Gary, it's just a quick read and may give you some inspiration. You might spot something you eat all the time, like liver (yum), near the top of the list. |
Ray, did I know you had a gastric problem? I'm senior too, remember!
You had a paramedic there inside seven minutes! That's brilliant.
And you've got no idea what caused it? It makes sense you were exhausted. You were out and busy for a long time without eating. I've got hot and a bit shaky when I've gone too long without food, and I think that's fairly common, but I don't know if the fainting is common too.
So what are the expensively educated medical people doing and when do you hope to get an answer?
Reply #5042. Sep 03 12, 6:20 PM
was intresting ahave to say a few things like liver that i do not eat on it, having had time to think about it, i make the following observations.|
1: Specialist did not examine me (yet letter stated a full skeletal exm was part of the course)
2: Whilst i know my GP queried what medication other then allipurinol she could give me due to afore mentionted made me fell i was having a break down. (seemingly is also used to treat schizophenia as well as gout)
3: he decided it was gout because my GP's letter i feel cheated but then will see.
4. He criticised GP saying medication for vitamin D treatment and b12 was not strong enough.
Watch my blog for more when i see my own GP
Reply #5043. Sep 04 12, 1:20 AM
|Gary, it would be a good idea for you to transfer all this to your blog anyway. Anyone who is interested in your progress won't think "I wonder how Gary is - I'll go to Lesley's blog to find out." |
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Latest on my niece makes the hospital sound terminally and terrifyingly incompetent. The details are from a non-medical person, and second or third-hand, so they're going to leave room for doubt, but this is what I was told.
- She came round from the anaesthetic, in agony with no analgesia in place. They anaesthetised her again.
- She came round from the second anaesthetic, in agony again, with no analgesia in place AGAIN. They found a doctor to prescribe something. "Luckily a doctor was close by." They should have chained the doctor up in the ward. I can't believe that they let her come round twice with no analgesics prepared. Unforgivable.
Her pain is now controlled but she is too weak to have long visits from lots of people. She managed half an hour with her parents yesterday. Her siblings are staying away for now, and so are her aunt and cousin.
Reply #5044. Sep 04 12, 10:55 AM
Not so good LEsley re pain relief, hope she improves rapidly.|
Reply #5045. Sep 04 12, 11:35 AM
|Thanks, Gary. I think there will be investigations after this. I think she will make sure of it. |
Reply #5046. Sep 04 12, 1:24 PM
Lesley..............once upon a time (about 4 years ago), I visited the doctor because I was frequently feeling nauseous.|
About twice-thrice during that time I actually WAS violently sick........it was diagnosed "food poisoning" (one might have been - but the others were not IMO - but what do I know?).
Anyhow in the time honoured tradition of NHS, it was "take these pills" (aka "go away and stop bothering me).
Cured nausea - No. Reduced it - yes! Still taking pills!
It seems that herat problems can cause gastric symptoms, and gastric problems produce heart symptoms. The question is which it is. "Expensively educated medical people" (to coin your phrase) decreed that as nothing cardiac showed, it was gastric.
Given my recent experience, I have this feeling they got it wrong and it is cardiac causing gastric, not vice-versa........but again, what do I know?
So what are all these medical whizz-kids (perm any one from umpteen doctors saw in hospital) doing about it?
Well I was discharged 10th August, nearly a month ago.....the Out Patients appointment mentioned, I still await.
So in answer to "what are they doing", the first word begins with "f" and the second word is "all" - IMO......or to put it politely, "Not a lot" !
Your niece I suspect is also reaping the benefit of NHS expertise! One doctor doesn't talk to another doctor, and few have English as a common language.....and the NHS "head" is totally unaware when the NHS "tail" wags.
Reply #5048. Sep 05 12, 2:28 AM
Wow Ray seems we are all expiriencing things within NHS, i have to say monday my appointment was 9am, Doctor arrived 9.15 i saw him 9.20, he then spoke with me and then gave me a piece of paper saying no further appointment needed.|
As i have already said virtually no examination and criticisam of my GP,
Reply #5049. Sep 05 12, 4:43 AM
And how are we today, Lesley - bearing up are we? :)|
Reply #5050. Sep 05 12, 2:54 PM
Sometimes, I feel funny adding to a post that seems to be all UK...I'm in Nevada, US. |
The only time I 'remember' fainting, was after a whole day at Malibu Beach. Other than Gatorade and Beef Jerky, there was just sun and sand! After we were home for about an hour, I got up to (whatever) and fell right out!
I remember my SIL and the dog looking down at me. Paula was laughing, but worried. I got right up, and felt fine, except I didn't realize that I'd gone down.
I understand how this can happen, but the most important thing is, hydration. At that time I was only about 24 years old...If it happened now, I'd be very concerned.
Let's all take care of our health, and we'll be here a while longer! :)
Reply #5051. Sep 05 12, 4:44 PM
|What do we know? |
Is that the right answer?
Bearing up very nicely, thank you, Trojan! Are you bearing up too?
VM, why are you bothered that we're all limeys? I do seem to get through an awful lot of water. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to stop me getting though an awful lot of food too.
Today a local friend's father is 80 and he decided this afternoon to have a barbecue this evening. It was a small gathering, and most enjoyable. There was a bolshy five-year-old girl, who was taken home mercifully early: a snotty fourteen-year-old boy who needed a smacked head, which I would cheerfully have given him if his doting mother hadn't been there, and wasn't taken home nearly early enough: and a grown man with the personality of Billy Bunter. Everyone else was lovely. :) I had a small glass of red wine and hardly kissed anyone.
Reply #5052. Sep 05 12, 5:32 PM
Not bothered in the least!:) You kissed 'hardly' anyone...Hmmm|
Reply #5053. Sep 06 12, 11:54 AM
If you hardly kissed anyone Lesley you did well, am feeling really crap today just want to sleep all the time.|
I hardly kissed anyone when i went to parties or barbecues.
Reply #5054. Sep 06 12, 12:28 PM
|"Funny" rather than bothered, VM? Just wondered. |
The mothers of last night's children both said they cried when they watched the little darlings take their first darling little steps into school.
When mine did that, I thought yay - another milestone! Aren't children supposed to grow, develop, mature, move on, and isn't it our job to give them whatever help and support they need to do so, and a cause for celebration when it works?
I've never understood the need for tears. Am I missing something?
Reply #5055. Sep 06 12, 12:43 PM
No wonder hospital fare is so… um… unappetizing.|
“terminally and terrifyingly incompetent”… I think you’ll find that with any facility, depending on what’s being done—and who’s doing it.
I, too, hope she gets better soon.
Ray’s story reminds me of how Stephanie’s parents were admitted to the hospital sometime back with what the doctors thought was food poisoning (I forget what triggered that thought). The husband recovered and was released, then the wife… Soon after she was rushed back to emergency with the same symptoms. Some genius gave her the exact same diagnosis. Not sure what came of it, but she’s now back home.
The “medical professionals” want us to believe they have all the answers, when I suspect half the time they’re feeding us a line of bull.
Lines of communication are horribly twisted at best, and nonexistent at worst, in hospital.
VM, don’t feel bad—I’m in Pennsylvania, US, and I feel just as strange sometimes… and yet, at times we seem to share common experiences (having a parent that works in the medical field helps, as does having several experiences with less than competent “experts” myself)
“Let's all take care of our health, and we'll be here a while longer! :)”
Couldn’t have said it better.
“I've never understood the need for tears. Am I missing something?”
Some people are just very sentimental (mine cried at my graduation—but, come to think of it, so did I). Yes, it’s a milestone, but it can also be a big adjustment and a transition (in Mom’s case, she was crying because she was proud of me).
Reply #5056. Sep 06 12, 3:18 PM
|Thanks, J, it looks like she is on the mend, but it's frustratingly slow. |
I can sort of understand the tears of pride at something big like a graduation. What puzzles me is the tears of distress when a five-year-old goes through the school gates for the first time. I've heard people say they love babies because they're so dependent. Perhaps it's as simple as that?
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It's about six weeks since Merv's last presumptuous, suggestive text message, and I thought perhaps, at last, he is accepting "no" as an answer. Today as I walked into the High Street, he was sitting outside a pub, and he called me. Would I like him to buy me a drink? No ta, too much to do. OK, on the way back then. If I'm still here, I'll buy you a drink.
An hour after I'd got home, there's a ring on the doorbell. What a miserable anti-social sod I was, not to come and have a drink with him.
No, I was a miserable anti-social exhausted sod.
He's off soon. A month in Greece. Bye - have a lovely time - don't hurry back!
Note to concerned observers: the entire conversation took place on the doorstep.
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The beloved child rang me to say goodnight and to tell me that he's applied for tickets to see a studio recording of Russell Howard in a month's time. Would I like to come? Would I!
Reply #5057. Sep 06 12, 5:53 PM
Heck Lesley is MErv all there? surely when someone says no i am to busy, normal people would have said ok not a problem maybe next time.|
Russell Howard marginaly better then Russel Brand
Reply #5058. Sep 07 12, 2:22 AM
My youngest just went off to university, this past Sunday.|
Friends have expressed concern that I will miss him. I will be lonely. Etc.
Not likely. He never talked to me, anyway.
I'm sleeping well, without bumps in the night.
When I go downstairs in the morning, everything is where it was the night before.
Placed a grocery order yesterday, and was able to afford it.
The bathrooms are cleaner.
Vacuuming can be done at 2 in the afternoon, without fear of waking the 'precious' boy.
*Looking into tickets to -anywhere- for the month-long Winter break*
Reply #5059. Sep 07 12, 6:57 AM
|But you realise that's not the point, Gary, don't you? |
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Ooh just got a call from my nephew who is studying in Israel! He used to phone every week or three when he was in Gateshead. Now, because of the expense, he normally rings his father once a week and that's all, but someone has let him use a mobile which gives him free calls to England. Nice to hear his voice!
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Postie, that's a hoot. Just proves that airheads are the same the world over.
I had a lot of the "Oh you'll be lonely" and "You must be terribly lonely!" rubbish. I actually found it quite insulting - partly because it implied that I didn't have a life outside parenting, partly because they seemed to have assumed that I would never see or hear from him again, and partly because it seemed to end with a burst of schadenfreude. If anyone had said "Are you missing him? Come and eat with us!" I wouldn't have minded that at all!
One local woman, who has four adult progeny, told me how empty my life would be once he'd left.
- But all yours have gone.
- Yes, but mine left one at a time.
- Same thing. Mine's leaving one at a time too.
How to destroy a beautiful conversation. She's a long-retired headmistress. Probably not used to having people disagree with her.
May not be tears your end, but how do you know he wasn't uncommunicative because he was taking you for granted? Will you be getting phone calls at three o'clock in the morning, asking you how to boil an egg?
If you do get away for the winter, will you tell him where you've gone?
Reply #5060. Sep 07 12, 8:35 AM
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