Aussiedrongo 
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Wow, eight kegs of lager. What a fun flight that would be.
Reply #521. Oct 16 11, 3:11 PM
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REDVIKING57
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Must be for the England Rugby team - on their way home from NZ!
Reply #522. Oct 17 11, 4:50 AM
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boxjaw
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I's love to be on that flight. It would be really funny if those kegs were filled with an average French brew.
Wouldn't stop me from imbibing though. ;^)
Reply #523. Oct 17 11, 11:04 AM
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| mikejamillon
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Who already read Michael Crichton's State of Fear?
Reply #525. Oct 28 11, 11:43 AM
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daver852
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Wasn't Crichton a great author? So sad he was taken too soon. It's almost unbelievable that kids in the Northeast may be trick-or-treating in a foot of snow.
Reply #526. Oct 28 11, 8:55 PM
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| mikejamillon
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Yup. One of the greatest fiction writers in the world. But Crichton said in his book, with accompanying references, that there's really no global warming.
But mind you, more and more stronger typhoons are wrecking the Philippines.
Reply #527. Oct 28 11, 10:48 PM
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| mountaingoat
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Just curious Satguru. You seem very keen on this subject are there any other subjects which grab your interest as much or close to it?
Reply #529. Oct 30 11, 1:06 PM
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satguru
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It's a shame you missed the time before this kicked off mountaingoat, before I saw my country and the world being misled and ripped off and had to let them know what the media mainly didn't tell them I was the supernatural enthusiast here. We had a board with related subjects in the forums and a religion chat board, and that was the main area I covered, supernatural and spiritual work. It still is, but coming from a legal family (a barrister, a judge and my law degree) I understand the rules of a fair trial.
Putting you (yes, even supporters are guilty) and me on trial, punishing us with huge taxes and travel restrictions, and far worse ahead based on what is no more than a computer prediction, some uncertain connections and selective and altered data is not beyond reasonable doubt. Remember this is all about 'man made' warming. An offence for which we have all been found guilty of with a burden of proof which any other experiment would have been either rejected or at least held back till they knew a lot more (ocean currents, solar effects etc). I can't let that pass, I know the foundations behind it simply because the internet allows the dissenting scientists to publish here, and they have plenty to tell us it's far from known.
But back to your question, I still spend a few days a week taking photos many of which get posted here, do painting and play piano and guitar, which of course I can't share here but do on Youtube. The global warming work I do is a necessary evil, evil as it wastes my time which could otherwise have been devoted to my actual interests, but believe it or not feel I have a duty to inform people what the media on the whole withhold from them. The world policies based on this are so radical (eg a single taxation level from the UN) and possibly banning cars from cities are pure evil with no qualification required. How can anyone who cares about freedoms we've won over centuries to see it all going rapidly down the toilet based on a joke? Not a very funny one but if there are aliens out there looking on who aren't affected they'd be laughing.
I hope you get where I am coming from better now, this diverts me far more than I want from my usual activities and apart from sharing the most important data here have pretty well wound it up since finding hardly anyone new is interested. I tried and now it's up to people to find out for themselves away from here, this site is the final place besides a Facebook page I volunteer for which also shares the information, but the one thing left is in ten, twenty or fifty years when the true details are known at least no one who read my posts could ever say they didn't know (like Gordon Brown said about the recession, despite many experts seeing it coming he [as a prime minister and economist] personally missed it). That can never happen with the climate here at least.
Reply #530. Nov 01 11, 9:46 AM
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| mountaingoat
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Thanks Satguru. We are almost polar opposites but I do admire your enthusiasm. Wish more people would get involved in our democracies and debate issues.
Reply #532. Nov 01 11, 5:37 PM
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| lesley153
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David #530
Impeding traffic in city centres is also a nice little earner. This is from the "TFL" (Transport for London - what was wrong with London Transport?) website:
"The Congestion Charge has been effective in reducing traffic levels and allowed us to invest in improving transport in London.
"There has been a six per cent increase in bus passengers during charging hours
"By law, all net revenue raised by the charge (£148m in financial year 2009/10) has to be invested in improving transport in London.
"Increases in congestion
"Sadly, congestion has risen back to pre-charging levels but would be much worse without the charge. The rise in congestion is due to:
"Widespread water and gas main replacement works, which have greatly reduced the road capacity
"Traffic management measures to help pedestrians and other road users"
 http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/congestioncharging/6723.aspx
Bus passengers up 6% during charging hours doesn't strike me as a resounding success.
"...congestion has risen back to pre-charging levels..."
I wonder if they're planning to increase it again. Wonder what happened to Boris's promise to scrap it? Oh yes. Couldn't afford to!
Daver #531
Thank you - the snowman has gone straight onto my facebook page.
Reply #533. Nov 01 11, 5:42 PM
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REDVIKING57
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Looks like the measures taken by responsible governments/countries could be working already,then.
:))
Reply #536. Nov 08 11, 1:24 PM
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satguru
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That was how it was designed, they can't lose as if nothing was going to happen anyway we could never prove it one way or another so will guarantee and try and take credit for it.
Mind you, as the CO2 hasn't actually gone down at the same time they'll have a bugger of a time explaining that. I'd like to be there when they try.
Reply #537. Nov 08 11, 8:34 PM
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daver852
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Right you are, Dave. C02 up, temperatures down. Looks like the global warming theory is ready for the trash bin of history. Don't worry, though. Another doomsday scenario requiring massive government expenditures is doubtless in the offing.
Reply #538. Nov 08 11, 9:22 PM
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satguru
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The funny thing is oil companies themselves openly promote green energy as it makes them a fortune. They don't care what they sell as long as they make a profit, so if there's a subsidised profit in wind and solar then they invest in that, and if restricting energy shoots prices up then all their existing oil is worth a lot more while doing absolutely nothing to earn it. The oil companies can't lose either way so may as well back the government's way as you can't lose from a subsidy.
Anyone who claims big oil funds skepticism doesn't get economics.
Reply #540. Nov 10 11, 12:14 PM
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