The Monkees were Michael Nesmith, Peter Tork, Mickey Dolenz and Davy Jones.|
Reply #1121. Jan 31 11, 9:05 PM
|(I'm surprised at you RJ.)|
What is the source of your surprise Simon?
Lets see here.
(The computer / Human analogy is a false one. Totally! After all, it is humans who build these machines, humans who plan the circuits and program them.)
I wasn’t making analogy between a computer and a Human. I was merely relaying certain verifiable facts. Such as;
~Gary Kasparov the world chess champion at the time was beaten by Deep Blue an IBM computer.
*I don’t think it enjoyed beating him but it did.*
~Ken Jennings and Brad Ratter, Jeopardy trivia champions, were destroyed by Watson in a warm-up match.
*Watson may have been channeling Skynet ,when afterward, it said, “I’ll be back”.....JK*
Although if I had wanted to make an analogy between the computer and the human mind, I don’t think that just because a computer was designed and built by a human would disqualify the analogy.
Simon, the reason I chose to relay these facts wasn’t because I thought computers were rapidly becoming smarter than humans and I’m very aware that humans designed and built it. It was more to show how far Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence has progressed and perhaps to dream about the implications of that progress. I think what this challenge helps us appreciate, frankly, is just how incredible the human brain is.
For instance, if Watson were to become “ill” and feint during the show because it bet it all on a double jeopardy and missed. It would be very doubtful it could be revived. It's essentially 10 refrigerators' worth of hardware. There's about a million lines of code in there. So it's an extremely complex system.
(I wonder where the idea that computers are somehow these alien forms that fall to earth fully programmed. AI has a long long way to go before it can be programmed to write something comparable to Shakespeare. Or as inventive as Jules Verne, for that matter.)
I certainly don’t think computers are alien forms etc. I’m an electrical engineer as well as an entrepreneur.
I really don’t want to talk about Shakespeare ;-)
Reply #1122. Feb 01 11, 3:58 PM
|Thanks for clarification Melbert ;-)|
Reply #1123. Feb 01 11, 4:01 PM
Simon says he'll be impressed when a dog writes an ode to a marrow bone. I'll be equally impressed when Simon licks his groin!|
Reply #1124. Feb 01 11, 4:56 PM
Behave, Ian! (**can't stop giggling*)|
Reply #1125. Feb 01 11, 6:00 PM
"It was more to show how far Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence has progressed and perhaps to dream about the implications of that progress. I think what this challenge helps us appreciate, frankly, is just how incredible the human brain is."|
On that I agree. The AI coming out now is impressive.
I used to work in machine translation and have seen how much better the products are -- but they are better simply because the algorythms for translation have gotten better because more people have come up with better ideas to program them, not because the computers themselves got any smarter. The people programming them and the people building better and faster machines did.
I just think the true show of a mind is not its ability to spit out and analyze data, but to create something which never existed before. I just don't believe that playing a better game of Jeopardy! or Chess can be likened to the creation of an entirely new concept, a true work of art, a well-written piece of literature. As an entrepreneur, you must understand the difference between doing a better job at something -- nothing to be scoffed at -- to the more impressive creation (though ofttimes less profitable) of an entirely new business.
Reply #1126. Feb 01 11, 10:51 PM
"I'll be equally impressed when Simon licks his groin!"|
I'll try to put that up on YouTube soon, Ian.
Reply #1127. Feb 01 11, 10:53 PM
Yow, I'm offline for one little day, and we've gone from Coleridge and "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" as it relates to exploding sheep (it doesn't!) to singing chipmunks, face-eating chimpanzees, IBM, Jeopardy, and the personification of animals! It HAS to be the weather. Let me guess -- you're all snowed in and cabin fever is beginning to set in? |
I can relate. It's supposed to get down to -20 tonight without wind; -40 with wind. That is just ungodly cold, and it's so much worse as this storm heads north and east.
Even with this weather, I still apparently live in the Banana Belt of Colorado, since this is nothing compared to what I am seeing in, oh, Chicago.
I am going to save my Exploding Sheep Story for a bit. And I did say sheep, RJ, not lamb. No lambs ever exploded in my care or sight, I swear it. This is some great reading in here right now, and Mel tossing in snacks and nostalgic musicians who really weren't is priceless!
Mel, I have to know -- do you eat pork rinds? I only ask because having tried them once, I really do not get them, at all, and you are the gourmet of snacks, so I would love your opinion on those things.
Reply #1128. Feb 02 11, 4:53 AM
Look on the bright side Elle - minus 40 has its good points. Isn't it the only point where the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales are the same?|
Reply #1129. Feb 02 11, 7:20 AM
|Where are we headed with this lingual lunacy? Dear me, when I first read this commentary, I was rather surprised at the indelicacy of the subject matter but then I realized it was a natural progression of logical debate. Surely, Simon is not going to attempt to lick his groin? I don't believe that is even humanly possible. Although it would definitely afford him the opportunity to display his superior human talents should a canine actually pen an Ode to a Marrow Bone.|
Funny you should should pick this challenge dippo, as the longest measured tongue, I believe, belongs to a fellow from your neck of the woods. Oh well, please excuse this interruption and please do carry on.
Reply #1130. Feb 02 11, 11:07 AM
Yes, Blackdress, I have eaten pork rinds, I like the BBQ version the best!|
But I can't get any today...I have about 2 feet of snow, and had to call in to work today because I couldn't get through.
Reply #1131. Feb 02 11, 11:29 AM
|Y'all must be yankees. They are called cracklins in the South.|
Reply #1133. Feb 02 11, 5:28 PM
Hey RJ...what would you do if you woke up and saw that your house was surrounded by two feet of snow?|
Reply #1134. Feb 02 11, 7:37 PM
Mmm - I'd rather have snow than water I think, Mel! :$|
Hello Crew. Have just been catching up and found where I could slide a word in edgeways. :)
Looks like some talented people abound. Can't Wait for the movie.... ;)
Reply #1135. Feb 02 11, 8:24 PM
I'd get on a plane and fly to Texas today, just to warm up, but I just saw San Antonio and Dallas are colder than Fort Collins. I think they said New Orleans is, too. Also, since I think all DIA flights are cancelled, I'm not going anywhere other than back and forth from the woodpile.|
Okay, cracklin's or pork rinds, aren't they fried pig skin? Fried to a crispy, crackly crunch? I'm not convinced RJ won't eat anything, but I do trust Mel and her culinary taste! She keeps us so well-fed in the US v. The World tourney!
Mel, even though it seems so futile to me to shovel while it's still snowing, this storm is so bad, I'm shoveling to keep up with it, even while it continues to fall from the sky. Are you shoveling, too?
And dippo, there is just nothing good about -40! Not one thing! It's wrong, across the board!
Reply #1136. Feb 03 11, 5:14 PM
Pork rinds(I'm using the USA version) are indeed fried pork skins.|
Reply #1137. Feb 03 11, 5:25 PM
I don't know where you're from, Simon, but unless this guy was LYING to me, the longest tongue in the world is attached to a rugby player in Washington. At least that's what he told me when he walked up to me at Moose's Saloon (world famous funspot in Kalispell, Montana,) sidled in beside me, and whispered, "Did I mention I have an 11-inch tongue?"|
I burst out laughing, always a good response, and asked, "Does that EVER work for you?"
I know rugby players came up earlier in this blog and I swear, they are the craziest group on the planet. Fearless, funny and overly-cocky. And HUGE! This guy was enormous! There is truly a reason they call rugby "Elegant Violence."
Reply #1138. Feb 03 11, 6:27 PM
YOU have Super Bowl tickets??? That is SO unfair! How in the world did you get them?? (That's rhetorical; I'm just jealous! Or is it envious? I'll get back to you on that one, since there definitely is a difference.)|
Reply #1140. Feb 03 11, 8:00 PM
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