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Topic: Grammar, Grammar, Grammar!

Posted by: Lochalsh

Subject: Grammar, Grammar, Grammar!
Date: Sep 07 10

What error in grammar disturbs you most, gives you a fingernail-across-chalkboard sensation? For me, it's "for you and I." Would a person ever say "Oh, is it for I?" No? Then why would that same individual say "for you and I"?

Stop me before I start in on the nominative vs. accusative stuff! :)



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Lochalsh

De nada, turbotude. :)

Reply #241. May 08 11, 3:39 PM

steelman86

Grammer is overrated me thinks.

Reply #242. May 30 11, 11:50 PM

tiepolo Methinks it is not. :)

Reply #243. Oct 07 11, 12:44 PM

lesley153 What a bizarre observation, steelman. Grammar is the only reason we understand each other's verbal communication.

Reply #244. Oct 09 11, 9:10 AM

daver852

Yes, but clarity of communication is more important than a slavish devotion to grammatical rules. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.

Reply #245. Oct 09 11, 12:04 PM

lesley153 But you always gotta do what you gotta do if you want people to understand you, and slavish rules don't come into it.

Reply #246. Oct 09 11, 12:33 PM

tiepolo And I think it's only polite to spell the title of the thread correctly. It's grammar, not grammer.

Reply #247. Oct 09 11, 12:56 PM

tiepolo Daver, without rules, we'd have communicative anarchy. Then who would understand whom? Babel revisited, that's what we'd have.

Reply #248. Oct 09 11, 12:59 PM

trojan11 I'm sorry, but the above smacks just a little of something very non PC. Is Rap music in anyway grammatical? Should we regard exponents of the art of Rap, as grammatical anarchists? Has not 'Yoh mamma!' and such like poetic expressions now been firmly established as part of the language of the civilised west?
Referring to Babel, the hebrew term for Babylon, in such a derogatory manner, infers that not only are they, Rappers and others, because of their grammatical innaccuracy (in established terms), anarchists, but that by the same token they hold to some vile religious cult or practice. Shocking!

On the other hand, of course, you could be right, and Rap is just a load of garbled ungrammatical crap making about as much sense as pounding a chinaman's head with chopsticks. :)

Reply #249. Oct 09 11, 7:36 PM

daver852

Knowing when to break the rules of grammar is as important as knowing the rules themselves. Sometimes it's quite okay to start a sentence with a conjunction, to end a sentence with a preposition, or to split an infinitive. I also believe that spoken English is an entirely different animal than written English. If we observed the rules of grammar in everyday speech, we'd sound like a bunch of twits.

Reply #250. Oct 09 11, 11:46 PM

callie_ross One thing that drives me batty is when people use "your" instead of "you're. Many people do this, too. It's not hard to know which one to use, for heaven's sake!

Reply #251. Oct 10 11, 1:49 AM

lesley153 Trojan, more chopsticks?

Nothing wrong with ur - covers everything. Long live chatspeak!

Here are some more helpful ideas:

- Never use a preposition to end a sentence with. That is something up with which your readers will not put.
- When writing, participles must not be dangled.
- Be careful to never, under any circumstances, split infinitives.
- Check to see if you any words out.

From Fifty Rules for Writing Good
http://www.wwu.edu/wis/bbd_f06_50rules.shtml

Reply #252. Oct 10 11, 4:49 AM

trojan11 Yeh! Chopsticks rule dunnit!

Reply #253. Oct 10 11, 7:06 PM

lesley153 Trojan, please: the correct form is "innit."

Chopsticks rule innit!

Reply #254. Oct 10 11, 7:42 PM

REDVIKING57


You forgot the 'Bruv'.

"Innit,Bruv!"

Reply #255. Oct 11 11, 3:51 AM

lesley153 *shame*

Reply #256. Oct 11 11, 4:18 AM

trojan11 Oh God! The shame....the awful shame.

Reply #257. Oct 11 11, 6:29 AM

REDVIKING57


Aww! Please don't feel badly.

Having an 11-year-old boy with a FaceBook 'Page' occasionally has it's uses. (?)

"Dunnit Bruv?" or "Epic,Innit,Bruv?"

:))

Reply #258. Oct 11 11, 6:53 AM

lesley153 Do they still talk about Epic Fails, or have they moved on? And do they still use "insanely" to mean "very"?

Reply #259. Oct 11 11, 7:00 AM

REDVIKING57


TeHeHe!

'Epic Fail' is still a favourite - particularly on the football pitch!

'Wicked' instead of good or great is another that seems to be standing the test of time. URGH!

:))

Reply #260. Oct 11 11, 7:04 AM

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