turbotude 
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AMEN to that, RMG. May Mr. Havel rest in peace!
Reply #1. Dec 18 11, 12:43 PM
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jolana
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Thank you for posting that, RMG.
Reply #2. Dec 18 11, 1:50 PM
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paulmallon
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second that!
Reply #3. Dec 18 11, 7:39 PM
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jolana
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I am quite sad, that the Kim Il-Chong or what´s his name was has 11 answers while the Little Big Man Václav Havel only 3:(
Reply #4. Dec 19 11, 6:13 PM
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flopsymopsy
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I just noticed that Jolana, it's a shame that the death of a great statesman like Mr Havel gets fewer comments but on the other hand, it's human nature to react more strongly to evil than to applaud achievement. But certainly in this country, Vaclav Havel was well-regarded, always thought of as an honourable man and as a someone whose achievements should go down in the history of Europe as a force for good. We mourn his loss.
Reply #5. Dec 19 11, 6:34 PM
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jolana
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Yes, flopsymopsy, I understand, that villains have ever been more interesting than decent people. What else to say to the death of a decent 75-year-old man than "pity" and why to repeat it several times?
Reply #6. Dec 19 11, 6:52 PM
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| lesley153
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Perhaps because there's too much to comprehend? The North Korean leadership was a chain of evil, and there's very little to say about something or someone with so little regard for humanity.
Havel, by contrast, achieved more than ten average mortals.
I picked from Wikipedia two lines I thought were of interest, spanning 54 years:
"Because of Havel's bourgeois history, the Communist regime did not allow Havel to study formally after he had completed his required schooling in 1951."
"He was also voted 4th in Prospect magazine's 2005 global poll of the world's top 100 intellectuals."
Why is is that so many of our politicians have been to Eton, then read PPE at Oxford, before slipping straight into politics, while Eastern Europe produces leaders who have actually had a life outside education and politics: people like Havel, and Jan Paderewski? Or Lech Wa??sa, who had very little formal education but ended up running a country and getting the Nobel Peace Prize?
Reply #7. Dec 19 11, 8:25 PM
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| lesley153
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Lech Walesa! That'll teach me to paste unfamiliar letters.
Reply #8. Dec 19 11, 8:27 PM
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boxjaw
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A wonderful man. He should be listed as one of the most important of the twentieth century. In a bittersweet note, because of his death, hopefully his plays will be produced and enjoyed by a wider audience. I would had loved to have seen the Orange Tree Theatre's production of "Leaving".
Reply #9. Dec 20 11, 9:35 AM
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REDVIKING57
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Flopsy (#5), Lesley (#7) and Boxjaw have said it all for me.
A great loss to humanity.
Reply #10. Dec 20 11, 10:08 AM
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rustic_les
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A true but reluctant statesman. I was a school kid in 1989 and still remember it well. I had to explain to my teachers who he was. Even in the West, I knew all too well about repression (but that is for another day).
I salute you and may God hold you in the small of his hand, Vaclav Havel.
Reply #11. Dec 21 11, 4:22 PM
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