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Topic: PLEASE READ: Author Challenge Categories

Posted by: Terry

Subject: PLEASE READ: Author Challenge Categories
Date: Jul 08 12

Hi! Welcome to the Quiz Author Lounge -- the place where quiz creativity is valued and celebrated!

Please keep in mind that the regular categorization guidelines apply for all quizzes submitted as part of author challenges / commissions / sprints /etc.

It is entirely up to the editors of a category whether or not a quiz you submit belongs in their category or not. Editors do not treat quizzes coming from challenges, sprints, etc in any special manner. Please do not ask them to do so either. They're not being mean -- they have been asked by me to not make exceptions for such challenges.

Please do not beg them to keep your quiz in their category, or tell them that you're part of a race and need credit. We simply cannot selectively warp our categorization system to suit individual desires to get quiz X in category Y. It's not consistent, and it's not fair to other authors.

What you should do:

- If you have a borderline idea about a quiz you want to submit in a category, ask an editor of that category BEFORE you write the quiz. It is much easier to be told "no, that won't work in this category" before you write a single word. I'm sure all sorts of people in this forum are able to quickly help you contact the right editor if you ask.

- Read everything you can on what types of quizzes ARE allowed in a category.


Author challenges are great fun, and we love the creativity coming from this part of the site. However, we simply cannot allow editors to feel pressured into messing with the category system.

If an editor moves your suggestion to another category, thank them for editing your quiz, and try something new. If Kyle wants to give race-credit to such moved quizzes (that are written in the spirit of things), that is up to him.

p.s. Kyle, Wesley, and other editors that frequent this forum also will not make special exceptions. They, like all our editors, will treat everyone exactly the same. Please do not go to them in an attempt to get favored or special treatment on your quizzes -- they will not be able to do so.

Thank you!



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playmate1111

In other words, bribery and corruption DO NOT WORK! :D

Reply #1. Jul 09 12, 1:37 AM

rossian

I've had a couple of instances where my quizzes have been moved, but I hope I've never made an editor feel I was putting them under pressure to put a quiz where it doesn't belong.

The new box makes life a lot easier, as now it is possible to put a note in there for the editor and ask for advice if the quiz doesn't quite fit.

Reply #2. Jul 09 12, 2:23 AM

lones78

I felt awful after reading this post by Terry. I had just submitted my quiz with a note to the editor about the fact that I had submitted as part of a commission and the rules involved. It wasn't intended as trying to 'bribe' the editors but as a 'heads up' to the basis for my quiz. I went back into the quiz, deleted my notes then got a correction note from the (lovely) ed this morning asking questions that could have been answered had I left the note there in the first place. *sigh* sometimes, you just cant win :)

Reply #3. Jul 09 12, 9:58 PM

lones78

Forgot to note that I would NEVER try to 'bribe' one of the editors - they do an awesome job and deserve all the support we can give them.

Reply #4. Jul 09 12, 10:00 PM

kyleisalive

Fill in the editor's note box with any info you feel is necessary upon submitting your quiz.

What Terry is saying here is that ultimately, the editor's call is the final one. If your quiz needs to move, then it needs to move.

Reply #5. Jul 09 12, 10:26 PM

Creedy

Struth, I thought we HAD to tell the Editors if our quizzes were part of any Challenge category. In that new little box ie.

This grows more confusing by the day.

Reply #6. Jul 10 12, 2:14 AM

Creedy

Update: All quizzes waiting to be submitted have been amended accordingly.

(Lol, now I feel embarrassed to realise I've been boring the poor old Editors to death unnecessarily)

Reply #7. Jul 10 12, 2:22 AM

rossian

I don't think it matters, Creedy. Sometimes there is nothing to say and I leave the box blank. I can't see that mentioning something like 'I hope this quiz fits in this sub category, because it is the one needed for this particular challenge. If it doesn't quite fit, can you let me know if there are any changes which would help' could be construed as 'pressure'. With the Movies quiz I did for the Sprint, which didn't fit where I thought it would, the editor couldn't have been more helpful. Skunkee did her absolute best to see a way through, before we both conceded that there wasn't a solution and I just wrote another which did fit.

Using it to say 'this quiz HAS to be in this sub category' wouldn't work and I can't imagine for one second that any author on here would try that!

Reply #8. Jul 10 12, 4:35 AM

agony

Your category wishes are useful information for us. That is not to say that we will necessarily abide by them, but it's good to know. Sometimes a quiz could quite legitimately belong in more than one category, after all, even though most of the time they can't.

Reply #9. Jul 10 12, 7:34 PM

Jakeroo

I think the "box" could be a great idea for many things. However, I've never used it (am afraid to put anything in it LOL!)

Reply #10. Jul 10 12, 8:29 PM

Creedy

Thank you, Rossian and Agony :)

Be a devil, Jakeroo - talk about the weather. It's really tempting with that empty box not to write something. Like watching an uneaten slice of cake - but I'll resist. Oh, that I could in real life.

FT is one giant learning curve. HUGE potential as an educational and health tool as well as fun.

Reply #11. Jul 10 12, 8:58 PM

leith90

I've used the box to notify which challenge a quiz is part of, but never specified which sub-category. I just figured the editors would know that I had chosen the specific sub-cat needed and written the quiz (to the best of my ability) around the requirements.

I've sometimes had quizzes moved from one sub-cat to another, and sometimes from one category to another, several weeks after going online. How would this impact on its eligibility to be counted for the challenge or ppossible future minibadges?

Reply #12. Jul 10 12, 9:00 PM

leith90

Seems I've developed a stutter. Sorry peoples.

Reply #13. Jul 10 12, 9:01 PM

looney_tunes

Editors aren't mind readers, so it is very useful to let them know if you had a particular category or subcategory in mind for your quiz as an essential feature. They then know that you would rather have it rejected to be adjusted so that it fits there, rather than have them cooperatively move it to a better subcategory and leave you with a quiz that doesn't work for you.

Reply #14. Jul 10 12, 9:13 PM

kyleisalive

Re: "I've sometimes had quizzes moved from one sub-cat to another, and sometimes from one category to another, several weeks after going online. How would this impact on its eligibility to be counted for the challenge or possible future minibadges?"

It would be done on a case-by-case basis. I'd likely give the minibadge if it met the guidelines upon going online.

Reply #15. Jul 10 12, 10:40 PM

Terry

I think Agony sums it up perfectly:

"Your category wishes are useful information for us. That is not to say that we will necessarily abide by them, but it's good to know. Sometimes a quiz could quite legitimately belong in more than one category, after all, even though most of the time they can't."

I simply don't want editors to be conflicted/confused/frustrated about their treatment of quizzes because of pressures real or imagined coming from challenges here.

This isn't a major problem by any stretch -- I have just heard a few editors say over time "such and such from the author lounge wants special treatment on this...", and unfortunately to be fair and consistent we cannot as a rule treat quizzes from here specially.

We try to be reasonable and fair to all quizzes, whether they originate from challenges here or not!

Reply #16. Jul 11 12, 11:30 AM

JanIQ

Before the box with comments for the editors existed, I've written several quizzes that could go in one category or another (see for instance my series on operatic history).
Anything which will help our greatly praised editors is very welcome.

Reply #17. Jul 12 12, 11:30 AM

Rehaberpro

My problem is that I do not know who will be the the editor when I try to write a quiz. Is there a 'generalist editor' to contact for guidance. I have been able to get quizzes on-line with 15 categories and I do not a single one that I persevere in.

Thank you for reading this even because I know you are busy.

Don

Reply #18. Nov 28 12, 6:57 PM

MyGirl2000

The editors have been very helpful and I think they need to be complimented too!

Reply #19. Nov 28 12, 7:32 PM

Buddy1 Rehaberpro: first, I don't see why it matters who the editor will be. Just type in the message without indicating the editor's name.
Second, you may not be able to limit it to one editor, but you can limit to a few. If you click on a category, then after the listing of sub-categories, you should see some names. Those are the editors of the category. For example, clicking on Celebrities, you can see skunkee, Pagiedamon, and gtho4. One of those three will edit your quiz.

Reply #20. Nov 28 12, 9:42 PM

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