I think that some players are afraid of 'bringing the team down' in the team games, no matter how many times they are told it doesn't matter (and they *can't* bring the team down in Heroes).|
Some people don't like to chat, but play the games, and like to read what's going on. I don't mind that. At least they are participating in SOME fashion.
Leaving without saying goodbye... it stinks. You wake up one morning, to find that your numbers have decreased by one, and have to try and figure it out... must be h-e-double toothpicks for larger teams :-p
Reply #1. Aug 06 12, 11:42 AM
I find the same in other areas- in my work for instance I see people weekly when they need help, and the majority don't tell me they've finished and just don't come back. But it doesn't make much sense joining a team here and staying in but not participating as it's not compulsory and although many try various teams for a day or so before staying with one it isn't necessary to be in one and barely interact. Also you then need to divide them into the ones who have pretty much left the site altogether, in which case it's not the team but FT they've stopped using, it's really those who are still site regulars who I think are who you are specifically referring to. |
Reply #2. Aug 06 12, 12:28 PM
Leaving without saying anything is just plain rude, but it does happen. Some people try a team and it just doesn't suit them for a whole variety of reasons, which is fair enough, but at least say cheerio been nice to know you. Others I think join the site, think they have to join a team so pick one, then don't bother at all after a day or so so sit as dead wood on the team membership list. A lot of team leaders cull those out every so often. I have members who play team games every day and members who only play once or twice a week. Some chat on the boards all the time, some don't, as long as there is some form of team participation that is fine. As far as I'm concerned though six months of complete non participation in any way shape or form will mean removal from the team, unless I am aware of circumstances preventing someone from joining in.|
Reply #3. Aug 06 12, 4:23 PM
My team recruitment post clearly tells the new members that their dues to be on my team of "Senior Moments" is to play both of the Team Games (Team versus Team & Team Heroes)each and everytime that they are signed onto Fun Trivia. |
I also personally welcome each new member via the Mail system.
Some respond to me. Some don't. I do delete members from my team if I have not heard a peep from them in over a month. On the team message board I have different ongoing topics. I have Team Achievements... each member of my team that obtains a badge or badgelet gets a post of their accomplishment.
I have Knock Out... When a player on the team completes their week of winning (or comes close) they get mentioned.
I have Newest Member... every time a new member comes on board they are posted here and I ask the other team members to give them a great BIG welcome!
I have On Vacation or Away for a Period of Time... Any time a member is going to be away for a bit I ask them to post it here. That way the other team members will know the reason for their absence.
I try to be equal and fair to every team member on "Senior Moments".
On another note I came across a team that was titled "Me, Myself & I". It is closed to new membership. There is only one member on the team and that is the person who started the team.
How do you propose he qualifies for any recognition as a TEAM with only ONE member... Himself?
Reply #4. Aug 07 12, 6:14 PM
You know, when I first joined a team I tried to keep up with the team quizzes and the message board, as well as all the other things I was trying to do on FT, and something had to give. Since I wasn't going to give up taking various quizzes, trying for badges, writing QQ and quizzes, and so on, the only thing that "gave" was the team message board, which was mainly playing different types of word games. It was fun, but...there's only so many hours one can spend on FT each day thus one can't necessarily chat on team message boards. I feel as long as I'm taking the two quizzes and the other things that helps the team's numbers, I'm doing all I can, given the time I have.|
Reply #5. Aug 08 12, 4:54 PM
OhGratefulOne, we too recognise achievements, but I don't expect people to play team games every day that they are logged on. If we're in a good position in Heroes and it's a subject they know nothing about they won't improve the average anyway, or if we are riding high in TvT and they're worried about dragging the average down, then some of them don't play. I leave it up to their own good sense.|
Doesn't mean you are right or I am right, just that there are a lot of different views on the way a team operates, and essentially you do what is right for your particular group of people.
As for message boards. I agree, sometimes something has to give. Sometimes our board is busy, sometimes not. At the moment ours is quiet, but we have people on holiday, the Olympics are on, school holiday season is still with us here, and some have serious real life issues, but that's the way it goes.
If you make it clear what you expect in your recruiting blurb then anyone who joins really has no argument if you cut them if they don't comply with it.
Reply #6. Aug 08 12, 5:18 PM
I agree it is rude to leave a team without saying "good bye". I understand that a person may not want to give a reason. As a team member I do try to play Team Heros and Team vs Team every day but there are days I've missed because I work full time and have other responsibilities. I am sure that other team members encounter "life interferes" as well.|
Reply #7. Aug 20 12, 4:56 AM
I would imagine most of us have missed a few team games. It's not just personal crises. The internet might cut out for a day or two. But, if there is a member who has been on the team for over a year, has never said hello, *and* has no team points, then why are they bothering to be on a team?|
Reply #8. Aug 20 12, 5:24 AM
You have to wonder don't you.|
Reply #9. Aug 20 12, 5:26 PM
Probably all teams suffer from "Dead Wood", which personally I remove at end of each month - if they can't be bothered to play ONE game in an entire month, then I take it that they are not interested.|
Which poses the unanswerable question:-
Why do people join a team, play one game, and then disappear into cyber space, never to be heard of again?
Reply #10. Aug 21 12, 1:54 AM
My personal pet peeve, being on a smaller team that sturggles to have more than 5 players participate in the daily team games, is members who only play ONE of the two games, almost invariably Team Heroes (which has a quota of 5 players for points to count) while ignoring Team vs. Team (which has a quota of 6 players for points to count). The effect of this is often to push one of our newer members off the top 5 for Heroes (discouraging them), and making us miss the TvT quota. I have posted this issue on our board (not naming names), but I doubt they read it.|
Reply #11. Aug 25 12, 12:38 PM
This is a never ending problem. My team "The Misplaced" has been up to 20 players but is now down to 11. I put a notice on the recruiting message board now and again and once in a while someone joins the team. Quite often, even though they must have read the team blurb they never contact me first or reply to FT notes or welcome messages on the team message board. |
One person who did respond to my note asking them why they had not contacted me at all, said that I should have got in contact with them first even though they just appeared in the team. Another player told me it was none of my business when I asked them if they had been in another team, and just left. Quite a few players new to FT have joined my team on the same day that they joined FT, played a few quizzes and have never been heard of again.
I only ask new members to do four things on my team which I think would be part of joining a team. Play two team games, the private tournament and visit the message board once in a while. It would not take 20 minutes to do those few things. I ask, why join a team, what is the point otherwise?
Reply #12. Aug 25 12, 4:59 PM
I understand the position of not understanding why someone would wish to be on a team and then never participate in team activities. However, to REQUIRE a member to play the team games every time they sign on as a condition of membership is absurd. For example, I play Team vs. Team every day, becauseI know I help my team's score. I play Team Heroes most days, especially when I know(or think it likely) that I will score high enough to help the team. But when the subject is something about which I know nothing (like math) it's a waste of my time and the team's for me to play.|
Reply #13. Aug 25 12, 7:32 PM
Thanks for saying my team requirements are absurd. We are never going to be a large team so in the team games everyman counts. Because we are a small team the team score won't count if not enough people play. The team you are in has 2098 members of which 453 are active so it would matter very little if you didn't play at all. Because we are a small team I like to think of the team games as a challenge between our team members.|
My main point was about people that join teams anonymously, never contact anyone and play once in a blue moon. What is the deal there?
Reply #14. Aug 26 12, 1:35 PM
Bernie, you are up front on your team's home page, about what you expect, so I don't see the absurdity, at all. It may not be for everyone, but that's the beauty of choices.|
I doubt that most of us are perturbed by someone who misses a day or two here and there. It's the ones that seem to think being on a team is good for nothing more than a profile mention, that are the problems.
Reply #15. Aug 26 12, 4:20 PM
Shipyardbernie--My comment was not directed at you but a response to the person who began the thread. You very nicely ask members to play the team games; that is a low-key way to encourage team members to be active. The original poster, however, requires people to play the games as a condition of membership, and I do indeed find that absurd. How can he/she expect to attract and keep members if they believe they'll be kicked off the team if they don't play the demanded games each time they sign on?|
Reply #16. Aug 26 12, 5:03 PM
I finally had to start my own team to get the type of team I wanted. Hopefully we will grow enough to be able to play all the games. We like the web site and my nononsense team doesn't feel threatened by scores or by having to leave the team. Communication is important on a team--especially if there are questions.|
Reply #17. Aug 26 12, 7:11 PM
I play the team games once in a while. I had stopped but got a message asking me to play. Before that I had said a few things on the team message board that were ignored so I figured, why bother?|
Reply #18. Aug 26 12, 7:59 PM
I take your point jabb5076 and agree with you Postie. I have just removed a member who joined my team on the same day that they joined FT Aug 12 and was never seen again after playing 1 quiz. We are 10 now and three of them don't play very often :(|
Reply #19. Aug 28 12, 1:19 PM
In any group of people there's a % that do most of the work, those that do an average amount, and those that joined because they thought it was the thing to do and didn't require any effort. If the team has clearly stated that there are requirements and someone joins without giving that any thought, that's not teamwork. Probably better to wait till you get used to the ft routine - there'a a whole lot to learn-strategies/timing/what you're good at, how you fit in. Once you feel comfy with the game choose the team that suits you best and put in some effort.|
Reply #20. Aug 28 12, 2:01 PM
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