"I don´t understand how the nurse could have believed that the call was really from the Queen or the Prince. I am not a Brit, so I don´t know the habits, but yet I don´t think that it is normal for the Queen to make a phone call to a commoner."|
The Duchess is no longer a commoner - I've no idea if the Queen phones her but in these circumstances she might although I don't think it likely. One problem here is that the nurse who took the original call, and who is the one who has died, was not actually British, at least not by birth and English was not her native language. On the bit of the recording I heard, the Aussie DJs were surprised anyone accepted their impersonations of the Queen and Prince Charles - but if English is not your native language you might not be able to distinguish between a real accent and a fake one. And in those circumstances, when you're a nurse not a linguist, and when the Duchess is a patient upstairs and someone on the phone says they're the Queen, you might actually not be able to spot a fake. The mind will say "Oh my Goodness it's the Queen", your non-English ears will hear "that voice is so weird it must be the Queen" (sorry, ma'am), and your nerves will shake, rattle, and put the caller through.
Reply #21. Dec 09 12, 5:15 PM
Jolana, the nurse who died only took the call and passed it on to the ward where Kate was. I don't think English was her first language and it may be that to her ears, it did sound like the Queen. I haven't heard the call but there's a strong chance that the nurse who did give out information did not have English as her first language either. From what I can gather, the information given was nothing that hadn't already gone out to the press anyway, along the lines of 'resting comfortably'.|
The DJs have said that with their atrocious 'english' accents, they did not expect the prank to work. Oh really? Why do it then? Possibly they realised that it would be towards the end of a night shift, there was a high probability that the tired staff would not have English as a first language, and the reception desk would not be properly manned. That gave the so-called prank a good chance of succeeding.
If they didn't expect to succeed, as I say, why do it? Could it be that they thought they might get a funny call out of teasing a staff member who wasn't really trained to deal with that sort of thing?
Reply #22. Dec 09 12, 5:19 PM
"The Duchess is no longer a commoner" - I didn´t mean the Duchess by the commoner, but the nurse.|
By all means I don´t want to blame the nurse, but I think, the hospital staff should be trained that no information is provided on phone, the Queen or not.
Reply #23. Dec 09 12, 5:26 PM
I don't completely understand exactly why the nurse killed herself! Over a prank? Seems like an over the top reaction. Can someone please explain it to me? :/|
Reply #24. Dec 09 12, 7:46 PM
I think most decent intelligent Australians are embarrassed over this incident and frankly I think the two morons should have been dismissed immediately. Already big accounts have withdrawn their advertising from the programme. It never ceases to amaze me the low depth of the intelligence of the sort of people who hold these jobs. This is not the first incident in Australia of "shock Jocks" (as they call them) have caused distress to members of the public. It is about time that the censorship of these programmes was practiced instead of being mainly lip service.|
Reply #25. Dec 09 12, 8:02 PM
I read that they got permission from their lawyer before they made the call. I don't know for sure if that is true. It is a tragedy what happened but they really didn't know the woman would kill herself over the call. There is just no way to anticipate something like that.I am so sorry for the family and I am sure they are not taking it lightly.|
Reply #26. Dec 09 12, 9:05 PM
The woman's suicide is awful, for sure, but has personal accountability really decayed to the point where suicide is the fault of someone else? What if the DJ's had even gone so far as to tell her to kill herself? Would anyone in their right mind follow their instructions?|
Reply #27. Dec 09 12, 9:15 PM
I've read that she left a suicide note. The contents haven't yet been revealed but are expected to be. |
Reply #28. Dec 09 12, 9:18 PM
That said, there have been cases of ACTUAL bullying, especially involving teenagers, where constant harassment and badgering have caused suicides. That's a different story.|
Reply #29. Dec 09 12, 9:19 PM
Sad state of affairs, but seems to me Prince William would have a mobile phone and hospital should know that, right? That just occurred to me, then this might not have happened. Sad also that bullies do cause suicides often.|
Reply #30. Dec 09 12, 11:30 PM
Of course they couldn't have foreseen that someone would commit suicide over this. They don't seem to have given any consideration as to how the people on the receiving end of the call would feel though. |
Few people would be able to shrug off something like that - personally I would have been hugely embarassed at a minimum, I'd be worried about my job and any possible repercussions. I'd be losing sleep and it would certainly affect my ability to do my job.
Apparently the radio station tried to contact the nurses to get their permission to broadcast the recording. That's all right then.
Reply #31. Dec 10 12, 2:30 AM
Yes, they must have tried really hard! |
Reply #32. Dec 10 12, 12:25 PM
Very sad. |
This has been in thoughts a lot and I hope no form of the media ever come into any sort of contact with me during my career. I dread that form of public humiliation when I give my job every effort and try my very best for everyone I deal with, but of course I (like everyone else) will still make mistakes. I'd be gutted.
This is an incredibly unfortunate series of events. My heart goes out to the family.
Reply #33. Dec 10 12, 6:14 PM
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