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Topic: Wit's End Team Heroes Open Invitational

Posted by: JCSon

Subject: Wit's End Team Heroes Open Invitational
Date: Jan 23 13

This virtual blog will function as a meeting place for discussion centered around this Invitational so that facebook users and non-facebook users alike can enjoy the competition together. We already have over 100 players registered representing 24 FunTrivia teams. Please see the game details (originally included in our Wit's End facebook event posting):


Wit's End, a private tournament hosted by Funtrivia.com, invites you to our first Team Heroes Open Invitational.

DESCRIPTION:
This challenge is based on the Team Heroes game design at FunTrivia.com:
1. Your team does not score for the day unless a minimum of 5 team members post a score.
2. Your team score is the average of your top 5 scoring team players.
3. Your participation cannot lower your team score.

Team Heroes games will run every third day at Wit's End (http://www.funtrivia.com/private/main.cfm?tid=37636) during the month of February and will include only pre-built categories (to ensure fair play). You will have nine opportunities to score for your team on Feb 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, and 27.

TEAM AFFILIATION:
Any players that are members of exisitng FunTrivia teams may represent those teams. Players who are not affiliated with an FT team, whose affiliation is unknown, or whose existing teams are not well represented will be assigned to a Free Agent team formed by the tournament administrator. Alternatively, players may request to form a team of their own.

REGISTRATION:
Players are asked to register participation or check in via the event posted by Wit's End on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/events/570165523010826/) or by emailing the tournament administrator (JCSon1982@gmail.com). This will help the tournament administrator match names and usernames, determine your team affiliation, and establish a method of contact in case you should win one of the prizes.

PRIZES:
1) BEST TEAM: The team with the best record at the end of the month will receive a feature on the Wit's End facebook page. (VALUE: priceless)
2) BEST TEAM MVP: The MVP of the winning team at the end of the month will receive a 12 month FunTrivia.com gold membership to be used or transferred at the recipient's discretion. (VALUE: $38)
3) SUPERHERO: All players whose scores are in their team's top 5 scores for all nine Team Heroes games will be entered into a random drawing for one nifty trivia-related prize. (VALUE: $15-$25)
4) HERO: All players who make their team's top 5 at least once will be entered into a random drawing for one small trivia-related prize. (VALUE: $5-$15)

OUTREACH:
If you are a member of a FunTrivia team, please post to your team message boards (if it hasn't popped up there already) and invite your team members to participate! Remember, you need at least 5 players per team per day to register a team score. Also, feel free to use the "Invite Friends" button at the facebook event to share with your facebook friends.



Please feel free to leave feedback for the site administrators. We will take all feedback into account as we tweak and add new features.
The old reply to thread function was removed because it got to the point where people weren't even reading the announcements and assuming, by default, that they were somehow being wronged or forgotten or insulted or abused or cheated out of something in some manner.


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JCSon

Today is not a scheduled Team Heroes day, Anton. So, unfortunately not.

Reply #381. Mar 11 13, 12:19 PM

AntonLaVey Figures.

Reply #382. Mar 11 13, 12:21 PM

JCSon

TEAM HEROES RESULTS*

CUMULATIVE STANDINGS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AjXU3swPpSfMdFR5d3NEc1VqMUdJQzcteG5DcVZPbWc&single=true&gid=1&range=A1%3AM32&output=html

GAME 3 (Mar 9, 2013): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AjXU3swPpSfMdEQ5WGFWbUczcGdoaGZyTVVjNFBQOWc&single=true&gid=4&range=G1%3AL47&output=html

GAME 2 (Mar 6, 2013): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjXU3swPpSfMdE9Gc1RVU1pyNXVHV3VCblFzLVpyYlE&single=true&gid=3&range=G1%3AL47&output=html

GAME 1 (Mar 3, 2013): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AjXU3swPpSfMdDJ3Qy13WDFjeUZDSXVxWFVDWFVfdlE&single=true&gid=2&range=G1%3AL47&output=html

PLAYERS NOT CHECKED IN (assigned to Free Agent teams and ineligible for prizes until checked in):
bg, imallshukup, jeristep9, jrzycobra, strum, suzie, tiger55

*Standings may change slightly as Free Agent teams are modified and as unaffiliated players are identified.

Reply #383. Mar 11 13, 12:24 PM

JCSon

Today's quiz was supposed to be gell's Pick: Classic Movies, but due to an administration error, it is instead Movies 2 Intermediate. The [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate game will continue, as scheduled, tomorrow. Today's scores will not count towards Team Heroes tallies, because it is not a scheduled Team Heroes game day. The Player Picks games will be shifted accordingly.

Reply #384. Mar 11 13, 12:37 PM

AntonLaVey Those 10's should not be punished because you made an error. What should happen is you make a note of who got them all right, and their score, and then tomorrow, you compare their new scores and take the higher one. Bollywood could be thrown into the mix. Then, not only am I not getting a fast time anymore, but now I won't be in my team's top five anymore.

Reply #385. Mar 11 13, 12:51 PM

JCSon

Will take into consideration Anton.

Of course, the error was not a Team Heroes error because it has clearly been stated when Team Heroes days run, both in this blog and on the game page. Today is not a Team Heroes day, so it is actually an error in terms of the Player Picks schedule, and that has been corrected.

Reply #386. Mar 11 13, 1:00 PM

JCSon

All Team Heroes games are announced as such and you would have noted a Team Heroes graphic to go along with it.

There are many players who do not play on days that have not been identified as Team Heroes days, so these players (and teams) would actually be at a disadvantage if Team Heroes the schedule was not adhered to.

Reply #387. Mar 11 13, 1:02 PM

JCSon

If I were to consider scores from today, I'd have to consider all scores from today, not just the 10s.

It wouldn't be right to take the higher of the two scores because players who don't participate today (a non Team Heroes game per schedule) don't get two opportunities to post a score for the same game.

Reply #388. Mar 11 13, 1:07 PM

Chavs

It's hard for those who got a good score today but really the schedule of dates that count was announced at the start, regardless of whether the topic has been accidentally repeated on a separate day. Surely tomorrow - the 12th - should be the only play that counts.

Reply #389. Mar 11 13, 2:19 PM

JCSon

I will repeat - at no point was today identified as a Team Heroes day.

The Category Schedule at Wit's End clearly identifies the next Team Heroes game as [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate. At no point today was the [Team Heroes] designation added to the category schedule, nor was the Team Heroes graphic posted.

Additionally, it is specifically stated in the game design and category schedule posted to this blog that Team Heroes games will occur this month every third day on Mar 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, and 30. This information is also posted to our facebook event.

I understand the desire to have a good performance scored, but there should be no confusion.

Reply #390. Mar 11 13, 6:38 PM

JCSon

"Today 's Topic" cannot include a [Team Heroes] designation when a pre-built selection is running. The pre-built selection title displays and the administrator cannot change it.

Last night the category schedule read as follows:

Category Schedule - gell's Pick: Classic Movies (Current), [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate (Tue), World of Art: General (Wed), gell's Pick: Classic Movies (Thu), [Team Heroes] Music 1: Easier (Fri), World of Art: World Figures (Sat), Jon53's Pick: English Geography (Sun)

When I noticed Movies 2: Intermediate was running, I changed it to:

Category Schedule - Movies 2: Intermediate (Current), [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate (Tue), World of Art: General (Wed), gell's Pick: Classic Movies (Thu), [Team Heroes] Music 1: Easier (Fri), World of Art: World Figures (Sat), Jon53's Pick: English Geography (Sun)

Reply #391. Mar 11 13, 7:01 PM

nannywoo

I pasted the list of Team Heroes game days on the message board for Faithful and True, part of the combined team True Believers. We also have a link there. But I've been playing every day, so I don't forget, and I notice names of other team members on off-days too. Can't be easy to run this big tournament. Thanks for giving us another way to compete.

Reply #392. Mar 11 13, 7:40 PM

Blackdresss

Chin up, Anton. Your score was tremendous, and now you can try to outscore yourself! It was a great practice run.

When I saw the topic, it confused me, too, but I do know that on any Tournament Day, it is "announced" all over that tournament, so there is no mistaking it.

Also? If you play in Kyle's tourney every day, you just racked up a gigantic pile of points for that score, and that absolutely counts toward the monthly totals, separate from this Invitational Tournament. I think... Doesn't it?

Reply #393. Mar 11 13, 10:33 PM

JCSon

Game 4 is officially a go! Into the fray, heroes!

http://www.funtrivia.com/private/main.cfm?tid=37636

Reply #394. Mar 12 13, 12:20 AM

Blackdresss

Hey Kyle? I don't know if this will help with the confusion, but I had played gell's pick of Classic Movies, the graphic was a photo from Psycho (eek!) and I had commented in the shoutbox about my surprise at doing well because I don't like old films!

Later, I looked in here and saw that dsimpy had mentioned the topic had changed to Movies Intermediate, and when I looked, sure enough, it had. I did think that maybe with Daylight Savings Time, or the custom category pick for Classic Movies, or who knows what, somehow the Invitational Tournament Topic was up and running, and that it was probably a glitch, but that it would be foolish not to play again.

I definitely played in both tournaments, with two separate topics, on the same day, but I don't know why the day turned over or just what happened to cause it.

I do know that keeping up with changing out Custom Categories is a chore, and it's not easy. I try to just have one day a week in my tournaments with a Custom Category, mostly because I do pull from several question pools when I post one.

I'm not upset at all. I'm just trying to maybe help you figure out what happened to cause that topic to change. I do think everything I've just written is accurate as far as times and timing, but it really was confusing, so forgive me if any of this isn't accurate.

I hope I helped, and didn't just make it more confusing than it already is/was!

Reply #395. Mar 12 13, 4:48 AM

JCSon

Hi Elle,

I fully understand the confusion surrounding the scheduling. What I am not happy about is the insistence that somehow scores are being discounted when they shouldn't be. I firmly stand by the fact that never was the day in question identified as a Team Heroes day.

This is exactly what happened:

The topics scheduled for Mar 10-12 were World of Art: Schools & Movements (Sun), gell's Pick: Classic Movies (Mon), [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate (Tue). Before daylight savings took effect, the changeover occurred at 10pm PST, and after at 11pm PST.

World of Art: Schools & Movements did not run the full day because the topic was changed to gell's Pick: Classic Movies at 10pm instead of 11pm. Meanwhile, Movies 2 Intermediate was mistakenly entered in the pre-built selections for Mon AND Tue.

So on Sun, World of Art: Schools & Movements featured until 10pm PST, and gell's Pick: Classic Movies from 10pm PST through 11pm PST. Any players who got the Classic Movies set in that last hour necessarily did not play the World of Art set, and vice versa. At 11pm PST, the game auto-switched to Movies 2: Intermediate instead of continuing as gell's Pick: Classic Movies as the category schedule indicated (because pre-built selections always override custom selections).

When I discovered that the Movies 2: Intermediate set was being featured instead of gell's Pick: Classic Movies, I changed the category schedule from gell's Pick: Classic Movies (Current), [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate (Tue)... to Movies 2: Intermediate (Current), [Team Heroes] Movies 2: Intermediate (Tue)....

The Team Heroes graphic never displayed on Monday. The Category Schedule never identified Monday as a Team Heroes day - it was updated by me personally from gell's Pick: Classic Movies (Current) to Movies 2: Intermediate (Current) - and all the game schedules released ahead of time via this blog and the various event descriptions posted here and on facebook never identified Monday as a Team Heroes day.

That schedule is set in stone, because so many players participate on Team Heroes days only. To shift the schedule around would be unfair to them. I have had one glitch that affected 9 players on a Team Heroes day previously, and all of them were given the opportunity to post replacement scores on our backup page. But this time around the error occurred on a day NOT designated as a Team Heroes day.

It's hard to swallow for players who finished tops - I get that. I do think they'd be singing a different tune if they had not scored so well. But in the end, it is what it is. I am sorry for the confusion. And I hope we can move forward and continue to have fun.

Cheers,

Kyle

Reply #396. Mar 12 13, 10:51 AM

JCSon

Note that I scored an 832 yesterday, and today a 532. I clearly gain no special advantage.

Reply #397. Mar 12 13, 11:00 AM

deadhead101 Picky, picky people who don't even try to understand, just want to whine that they lost points for their team, when it wasn't even a team game that day. Grow up and suck it up - you didn't get screwed out of anything! Kyle is doing a great job here, and certainly doesn't need this abuse. Play for the fun of it like I do! I'm not smart, and I'm not fast - just having fun! And I commend Kyle for the great job, and for putting up with the whiners! Grow up and enjoy what Kyle is working hard to offer all of us! Great job Kyle!!

Reply #398. Mar 12 13, 11:15 AM

JCSon

While I thank you, deadhead, I also would like to gently suggest that we keep it on friendly terms as much as possible. =)

We're all different people, and it's impossible to please everyone all of the time. It's fine to share opinions, but we should try our best not to make it personal or inflammatory. What I really don't want is for it to get out of hand.

Let there be peace and good will and fair competition. In the final analysis, it's all just trivial.

Reply #399. Mar 12 13, 12:04 PM

JCSon

REMINDER: Wit's End is a trivia tournament, not a Google Skills test. Please do not research answers while playing. House rules.

Researching answers may be fine for certain other private tournaments and FunTrivia.com games, but it has always been an expectation at Wit's End, in the interest of fairness, that players avoid researching.

Please see the red text posted to the game page.

Reply #400. Mar 12 13, 12:13 PM

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