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#1047233 - Mon May 26 2014 07:25 AM Results & Standings .. FIFA World Cup
gtho4 Offline
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FIFA World Cup
Tipping Comp
Brazil 2014


The FIFA World Cup begins next month in Brazil on Thursday 12th June. These are the 32 teams that have qualified for the finals tournament (the number in brackets is their group seeding). Spain are the defending titleholders.


Group A

(1) Brazil
(2) Mexico
(3) Croatia
(4) Cameroon
Group B

(1) Spain
(2) Chile
(3) Netherlands
(4) Australia
Group C

(1) Colombia
(2) Greece
(3) Ivory Coast
(4) Japan
Group D

(1) Uruguay
(2) Italy
(3) England
(4) Costa Rica
Group E

(1) Switzerland
(2) France
(3) Ecuador
(4) Honduras
Group F

(1) Argentina
(2) Bosnia &H.
(3) Iran
(4) Nigeria
Group G

(1) Germany
(2) Portugal
(3) USA
(4) Ghana
Group H

(1) Belgium
(2) Russia
(3) Algeria
(4) South Korea


The rules for this comp are simple. The points system, rounds and advance picks are borrowed from the UEFA Champions League, but with the addition of seedings (borrowed from the March Madness comp):
    points
    seedings

    default
    upsets
    perfect picks
    other bonus pts

    dead-heats

    deadline
    one point for each correct pick (win or draw at 90 minutes).
    plus points for the seeding.
    if you forget, the spoon score is all yours (ineligible for bonus pts).
    if you pick a game solo (or one of two), you score a bonus point.
    of 8/8 score a bonus point, plus a knighthood from Her Majesty.
    no one picks a win, whoever picks a draw.
    no one picks a draw, whoever picks the upset win.
    weekly wins vs. spoons countback determine podium finishes;
    if they're identical, bonus pts will be used.
    is always kick-off in the first game of the round. If you miss the
    deadline, you score default.
The tipping comp will run over 10 rounds with 8 pts up for grabs each round, plus seedings. The defending titleholder from the 2010 comp is Howie72 and themonarch was runner-up (PaulE finished third). This is the 4th edition of the World Cup tipping comp.
    2002  Stevo_fun  oleg_mcnoleg  silverginger
    2006 Howie72 LeoDaVinci halfbakedangi
    2010 Howie72 themonarch PaulE
Howie72 is looking at a unique hat-trick of three consecutive gold medals across 8 years, if he wins this again! Who's up for the 4th edition of the World Cup tipping comp?


Edited by gtho4 (Fri Jun 13 2014 11:30 AM)

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#1047234 - Mon May 26 2014 07:26 AM FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
gtho4 Offline
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#1047236 - Mon May 26 2014 07:31 AM FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
gtho4 Offline
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Posts: 45747
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    Lastest market to win:
    one of many


    3.75 Brazil
    5.50 Argentina
    6.50 Germany
    7.50 Spain
    15.0 Belgium
    23.0 France
    26.0 Uruguay
    26.0 Italy
    29.0 Colombia
    29.0 Netherlands
    34.0 England
    34.0 Portugal
    41.0 Chile
    81.0 Russia
    101. Switzerland
    101. Mexico
    126. Ivory Coast
    126. Ecuador
    151. Bosnia
    151. Croatia
    151. Japan
    201. USA
    251. Ghana
    251. Nigeria
    301. South Korea
    301. Greece
    501. Cameroon
    501. Australia
    1501 Iran
    1501 Algeria
    2001 Honduras
    2501 Costa Rica

    1 Spain 1460
    2 Germany 1340
    3 Portugal 1245
    4 Brazil 1210
    5 Colombia 1186
    6 Uruguay 1181
    7 Argentina 1178
    8 Switzerland 1161
    9 Italy 1115
    10 Greece 1082
    11 England 1043
    12 Belgium 1039
    13 Chile 1037
    14 USA 1015
    15 Netherlands 967
    16 France 935
    17 Ukraine 913
    18 Russia 903
    19 Mexico 877
    20 Croatia 871
    21 Ivory Coast 830
    22 Scotland 825
    23 Denmark 819
    24 Egypt 798
    25 Bosnia &H 795
    25 Sweden 795
    25 Algeria 795
    28 Ecuador 794
    29 Slovenia 787
    30 Serbia 759
    30 Honduras 759
    32 Romania 756
    33 Armenia 750
    34 Costa Rica 748
    35 Panama 739
    36 Czech Rep 731
    37 Iran 715
    38 Ghana 713
    39 Turkey 711
    40 Austria 673
    41 Venezuela 666
    42 Peru 665
    42 Cape VerdeIs 665
    44 Nigeria 631
    45 Hungary 623
    46 Slovakia 616
    47 Japan 613
    47 Wales 613
    49 Tunisia 597
    50 Cameroon 583
    51 Guinea 580
    52 Finland 578
    53 Uzbekistan 577
    54 Montenegro 555
    55 South Korea 551
    55 Norway 551
    55 Paraguay 551
    58 Iceland 546
    59 Mali 545
    59 Australia 545

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#1047240 - Mon May 26 2014 08:22 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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Posts: 21947
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I'll be back on this one...it's only been four years! LOL
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#1047251 - Mon May 26 2014 08:36 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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I'm in.

I make the easy prediction that both groups G and D will have 2 teams in the Quarter-Finals.

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#1047264 - Mon May 26 2014 08:54 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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Registered: Sun Feb 13 2011
Posts: 12545
Loc: New South Wales Australia
I'm in

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#1047332 - Tue May 27 2014 12:08 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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In
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#1047333 - Tue May 27 2014 01:07 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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Posts: 2121
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Yes please
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#1047341 - Tue May 27 2014 05:50 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
Dizart Offline
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Registered: Fri Mar 16 2007
Posts: 17179
Loc: Buckhaven Fife Scotland UK   
I'm in, just hope it actually goes ahead, what with all the unfinished stadiums, strikes, riots etc

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#1047390 - Tue May 27 2014 02:16 PM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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Australia are 17 places behind Cape Verde Islands in world rankings. smile

Count me in, too.
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#1047403 - Tue May 27 2014 04:06 PM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
illiniman14 Offline
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Posts: 4276
Loc: Champaign Illinois USA        
I'll be there

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#1047448 - Wed May 28 2014 01:42 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
PaulE Offline
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Registered: Wed Feb 09 2000
Posts: 3596
Loc: Leeds Yorkshire England       
Definitely in for this.

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#1047585 - Thu May 29 2014 04:01 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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Posts: 1793
Loc: Brisbane
QLD Australia
Count me in

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#1047619 - Thu May 29 2014 11:01 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: Dizart]
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Registered: Fri Jan 06 2006
Posts: 4608
Loc: Crawley Sussex England       
Yes I'll be there -
Originally Posted By: Dizart
I'm in, just hope it actually goes ahead, what with all the unfinished stadiums, strikes, riots etc
- I understand that is part of the tipping, match abandoned because of...
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#1047724 - Sat May 31 2014 08:22 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
szabs Offline
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Registered: Mon Aug 13 2007
Posts: 14709
Loc: Mijas, Malaga Spain         
I will give his one a try

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#1047781 - Sun Jun 01 2014 12:58 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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Posts: 363
Loc: California USA       
I'll give this a try.

In terms of scoring: Which team's seeding counts if you correctly pick a draw?

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#1047784 - Sun Jun 01 2014 03:43 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: kevinatilusa]
gtho4 Offline
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Posts: 45747
Loc: Sydney oz downunder           
It's the average seeding:
add the seeds of both teams and divide by two.

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#1048122 - Thu Jun 05 2014 08:36 AM FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
gtho4 Offline
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Posts: 45747
Loc: Sydney oz downunder           
today's market is the second column
first column is last week's numbers
    Lastest market to win:
    one of many

    3.75 4.00 Brazil
    5.50 5.00 Argentina
    6.50 7.00 Germany
    7.50 7.50 Spain

    15.0 19.0 Belgium
    23.0 23.0 France
    26.0 26.0 Italy
    34.0 29.0 England
    26.0 29.0 Uruguay
    29.0 34.0 Netherlands
    34.0 29.0 Portugal
    41.0 41.0 Chile
    29.0 41.0 Colombia
    81.0 81.0 Russia
    101. 101. Switzerland
    126. 126. Ivory Coast
    126. 126. Ecuador
    151. 151. Bosnia &H
    151. 151. Croatia
    101. 151. Mexico
    151. 151. Japan
    201. 226. USA
    251. 251. Ghana
    251. 251. Nigeria
    301. 301. South Korea
    301. 301. Greece
    501. 501. Cameroon
    501. 501. Australia
    1501 1501 Iran
    1501 1501 Algeria
    2001 2001 Honduras
    2501 2501 Costa Rica

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#1048419 - Mon Jun 09 2014 06:41 AM FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
gtho4 Offline
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Posts: 45747
Loc: Sydney oz downunder           
so far we have a field of 17 runners:
    BxBarracuda
    Dizart
    dg_dave
    FussBudget
    gtho4
    illiniman14
    kevinatilusa
    KrivoyRog
    LeoDaVinci
    N-Bomb
    ozzz2002
    paper_aero
    PaulE
    Snowman
    srini701
    szabs
    wwe84

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#1048435 - Mon Jun 09 2014 09:41 AM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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The current Mrs Rog insists that she oould predict this World Cup better than me.So, just for this tournament, could I enter "Mrs Rog" as well as me and we'll see who knows their onions. Thanks.
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#1048892 - Sat Jun 14 2014 10:02 PM Re: FIFA World Cup ... sign-up sheet [Re: gtho4]
LeoDaVinci Offline
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Some things to note about Mondial Brasil 2014 through the first eight games:
- 1-0, the most common scoreline in international soccer, is obviously not an option unless you have goals [wrongly] disallowed.
- Neither is settling for a draw.
- Winning is much easier if you concede the first goal.
- Officiating is always criticized, but, this year, it's often justified.
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#1048910 - Sun Jun 15 2014 06:52 AM Results & Standings .. FIFA World Cup [Re: LeoDaVinci]
gtho4 Offline
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Posts: 45747
Loc: Sydney oz downunder           



Round 1
Thu 12 June 2014
FIFA World Cup
group stage
22 of 23 players lodged picks

pk seeds
22-0-00
912-10
18-1-20
14-6-20
12-6-40
21-1-00
510-70
11-4-70
3-1
1-0
1-5
3-1
3-0
1-3
1-2
2-1
22
9
2
14
12
0
7
11
22˝
9˝
2˝
18˝
12˝
0˝
14˝
33˝
A 1v3 Brazil v Croatia
A 2v4 Mexico v Cameroon
B 1v3 Spain v Netherlands
B 2v4 Chile v Australia
C 1v2 Colombia v Greece
D 1v4 Uruguay v Costa Rica
D 3v2 England v Italy
C 3v4 Ivory Coast v Japan


kevinatilusa themonarch


KrivoyRog

1
77133= 210 pts


Tipping Comp Standings


position LW TW
----- ----- ------------------
TW LW hi-lo pk pts pk pts bp
----- ----- ------------------hf ws
1 1-1 kevinatilusa s 00 00 6 18 6 19 1 1
2 2-2 illiniman14 00 00 6 17 6 17 1
2 2-2 PaulE 00 00 6 17 6 17 1
4 4-4 themonarch s 4 12 4 13 1
4 4-4 Dizart 5 13 5 13
6 6-6 BxBarracuda 00 00 4 12 4 12
7 7-7 szabs 00 00 4 11 4 11
7 7-7 Snowman 4 11 4 11
9 9-9 paper_aero 3 9 3 9
9 9-9 gtho4 3 9 3 9
11 11-11 KrivoyRog w 00 00 3 7 3 8 1
11 11-11 George95 00 00 3 8 3 8
11 11-11 Howie72 00 00 3 8 3 8
11 11-11 LeoDaVinci 3 8 3 8
11 11-11 ozzz2002 3 8 3 8
11 11-11 Sypher 3 8 3 8
17 17-17 srini701 3 7 3 7
17 17-17 N-Bomb 3 7 3 7
19 19-19 MrsKrivoyRog 00 00 2 5 2 5 1
19 19-19 dg_dave 00 00 2 5 2 5 1
19 19-19 wwe84 00 00 2 5 2 5 1
19 19-19 Lpez 00 00 2 5
23 23-23 FussBudget 00 00 2 4 2 4 1
late starters 2 5
77 210 3 4 3
wooden spoon 00 00 2 4 2 4
best picks 00 00 6 18 6 18
perfect picks 00 00 8 26 8 26
bonus points 00 00 3 3

default = wooden spoon score
b = bonus point for perfect picks.
s = bonus for solo pick, or one of three.
w = picked draw, no one picked win.
o = no one picked draw, picking upset win.
bp = total bonus pts.
pk = correct picks.
hf = total weekly wins for season (Hall of Fame).
ws = total wooden spoons for season.
`


Weekly Leader


wk
1. +2 kevinatilusa
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.





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There were 23 starters in the barriers when they opened, one more the 22 who lodged picks 4 years ago for South Africa 2010 .. eight are newbies. This is a record field for a World Cup tipping comp here at FT (we had 15 runners in 2002 and 18 in 2006). Is the record field here to witness Howie72 winning his third straight title? lol

We have 15 survivors from the previous comp, back for another dose, seven no-shows, and eight newbies. The no-shows: MrFox, aya3098, DanielPoulsen, Davjack, JaneMarple, Toffees & triviapaul. The new runners: Dizart, George95, kevinatilusa, MrsKrivoyRog, Lpez, N-Bomb, Snowman and wwe84.

A special welcome to MrsKrivoyRog, Snowman and Lpez .. this is their first tipping comp! Lpez failed to jump when the barriers opened, and receives default for the first round.

Of those 15 survivors only 2 played 12 years ago in the 2002 edition: gtho4 and Sypher. These two players have been here so long they've got no idea where the keys are to get out. Ask the manager of a 7-11 store if he or she knows where the front-door keys are .. they've got no idea either!

Please note that with a mammoth field of 23 runners, bonus points for solo picks has been extended from solo or one of two, to solo or one of four.

kevinatilusa hit the ground running when the starter fired his gun, and has blown us all away to jump to a two point lead. He picked 6/8 .. he missed the win by Mexico (we all missed the loss by Uruguay). PaulE and illiniman14 also picked 6/8 (they both missed the loss by Spain).

At the other end, four players collected a wooden spoon each with picks of 2/8.

There were three bonus pts .. kevinatilusa & themonarch consulted their Ouija Board and picked Spain, the reigning World and European Champions, to lose. They didn't lose, they were thumped 5-1 (and they scored first). The other bonus point was the loss by Uruguay.
No-one picked it, but KrivoyRog picked a draw for a bonus point.

The last time Spain conceded 5 goals in a match was 51 years ago to the day, when they lost 2-6 in Madrid to Scotland on 13th June 1963. They scored first in that match as well.

That's 8 of 64 games behind us .. the next round is less than 24 hours away, and the World Cup final is 28 days away.


Edited by gtho4 (Tue Jun 17 2014 07:15 AM)
Edit Reason: typo x2

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#1048960 - Sun Jun 15 2014 01:18 PM Re: Results & Standings .. FIFA World Cup [Re: gtho4]
Howie72 Offline
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Loc: Timaru NZ
I have no chance this time as I can watch the games, last time I was travelling in Europe and hardly saw anything.....lol

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#1049220 - Tue Jun 17 2014 12:33 PM Re: Results & Standings .. FIFA World Cup [Re: gtho4]
illiniman14 Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 10 2009
Posts: 4276
Loc: Champaign Illinois USA        
In a draw, do we average the seeds out?

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#1049248 - Tue Jun 17 2014 04:11 PM Results & Standings .. FIFA World Cup [Re: gtho4]
gtho4 Offline
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Registered: Sun Dec 26 1999
Posts: 45747
Loc: Sydney oz downunder           



Round 2
Sun 15 June 2014
FIFA World Cup
group stage
22 of 23 players lodged picks

pk seeds
9-5-80
20-1-10
21-1-00
12-6-40
0-8-14
4-7-11
19-3-00
19-2-10
2-1
3-0
2-1
4-0
0-0
1-2
2-1
0-0
9
20
21
12
8
11
19
2
9˝
40˝
21˝
12˝
28˝
33˝
19˝
3˝
E 1v3 Switzerland v Ecuador
E 2v4 France v Honduras
F 1v2 Argentina v Bosnia &H
G 1v2 Germany v Portugal
F 3v4 Iran v Nigeria
G 4v3 Ghana v USA
H 1v3 Belgium v Algeria
A 1v2 Brazil v Mexico

paper_aero themonarch
KrivoyRog



LeoDaVinci themonarch wwe84
Lpez ozzz2002
102165= 267 pts


Tipping Comp Standings


position LW TW
----- ----- -------------------
TW LW hi-lo pk pts pk pts bp
----- ----- -------------------hf ws
1 2 1-2 illiniman14 6 17 6 15˝ 12 32˝ 1
2 2 2-2 PaulE 6 17 5 13 11 30 1
3 1 1-3 kevinatilusa 6 19 4 8 10 28 1 1
4 6 4-6 BxBarracuda 4 12 5 15˝ 9 27˝
5 11 5-11 ozzz2002 s 3 8 7 18 10 27 1 1
6 17 6-17 N-Bomb 3 7 6 17˝ 9 24˝
7 19 7-19 MrsRog 2 5 6 17˝ 8 22˝ 1
8 19 8-19 Lpez s 2 5 6 16 8 22 1
8 7 7-8 szabs 4 11 4 11 8 22
8 4 4-8 Dizart 5 13 4 9 9 22
11 11 11-11 George95 3 8 5 13˝ 8 21˝
11 11 11-11 Sypher 3 8 5 13˝ 8 21˝
13 4 4-13 themonarch 4 13 3 8 7 21 1
14 11 11-14 KrivoyRog 3 8 5 15˝ 8 20˝ 1
15 9 9-15 gtho4 3 9 5 11 8 20
16 11 11-16 Howie72 3 8 5 11 8 19
17 19 17-19 wwe84 2 5 4 13˝ 6 18˝ 1
18 19 18-19 dg_dave 2 5 5 13 7 18 1
19 17 17-19 srini701 3 7 4 9 7 16
20 7 7-20 Snowman 4 11 6 15
21 9 9-21 paper_aero 3 9 2 4 5 13 1
21 23 21-23 FussBudget 2 4 4 9 6 13 1
23 11 11-23 LeoDaVinci 3 8 2 4 5 12 1
late starters 5 12
102 267 4 6 5
wooden spoon 2 4 2 4 4 8
best picks 6 18 7 18 13 36
perfect picks 8 26 8 22 16 48
bonus points 3 2 5

default = wooden spoon score
b = bonus point for perfect picks.
s = bonus for solo pick, or one of three.
w = picked draw, no one picked win.
o = no one picked draw, picking upset win.
bp = total bonus pts.
pk = correct picks.
hf = total weekly wins for season (Hall of Fame).
ws = total wooden spoons for season.
`


WEEKLY LEADER



wk
1. +2 kevinatilusa
2. +1˝ illiniman14
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.




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ozzz2002 is this round's winner with stupendous picks of 7/8. He picked the entire card except for the win by the USA! He's now one point off the podium.

LeoDaVinci and paper_aero collect a wooden spoon each with 2/8; and fall to the bottom of the table.

There were just two bonus pts .. ozzz2002 and Lpez picked Mexico to hold hosts Brazil to a draw. Lpez is understandable as that's home base, but what was ozzz2002 thinking? lol

At the top of the table the podium spots have the same occupants, but they've swapped positions .. kevinatilusa slips to third place, illiniman14 has taken over front-running duties and PaulE retains second spot. George95 and Sypher also kept their spot, but the rest of us (that's 20 of us) moved up or down a spot or two, or six .. or eleven! The standings now have ˝ pts as we had our first draw.

That's it for this round of the tipping comp, as I'm late for work (it's 8:00am here). I'll double check the points late tonight as this post has been a little rushed (but they should be aok). Tonight I'm off to watch NSW wallop Queensland, then it's off to bed and up at 2:00am to watch Australia thrash the Netherlands, ha ha


Edited by gtho4 (Wed Jun 18 2014 07:38 AM)
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