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#106384 - Mon Feb 16 2009 01:35 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: ladymacb29]
Midget40 Offline
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Thanks for checking for me Ladymach - its appreciated but you've just about made me cry

I really didn't go back into it and save it again.

I never touch them once I've submitted them (Until an editor tells me I have to that is LOL)

Is it possible there is a bug in the system?

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#106385 - Mon Feb 16 2009 02:56 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Midget40]
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It looks like your quiz has gone online Midget -- Fine one it is too!


Edited by jonnowales (Mon Feb 16 2009 02:57 PM)

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#106386 - Tue Feb 17 2009 06:53 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: jonnowales]
Midget40 Offline
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gtho4 put it online for me so I've stopped stressing.

Thanks for your help and thankyou for the compliment Jon

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#106387 - Tue Feb 17 2009 08:17 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Midget40]
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I would like to thank the editors for their help to a relatively new author. You only learn by making mistakes (despite how often quiz creation guidelines are read!) They have made quiz creating much easier for me by constructive input so thanks again

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#106388 - Sun Feb 22 2009 08:15 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: adawaz]
Triviaballer Offline
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Is there any way that the one quiz submission at a time rule can be removed? When you submit a quiz in some categories you're waiting for two or three weeks for a response and if you've already got other quizzes ready to go online (in categories that you know will have a short wait time for getting the quiz online) you have to wait until that one passes the system. I know that some authors have the capability of doing this but for some reason it was removed for me. Why is it that at one point I was able to submit multiple quizzes at a time but now I can only submit one at a time?

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#106389 - Mon Feb 23 2009 12:31 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Triviaballer]
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"Is there any way that the one quiz submission at a time rule can be removed?"

As you already note, it is removed for exceptional authors. People get this capacity for writing consistently good quizzes that require little editing. It can be removed if quizwriting gets sloppy. If you see the "green screen" on your quizzes, you won't get to submit more than one.

In your case, it looks like you were able to submit multiple quizzes in the past before we had the "one quiz per author" rule.

I don't expect to see the rule removed, nor would I want it to be. If an author produces good quizzes that require little work for the editor, they do get the privilege. This should be a reason to work on writing better quizzes. If quizzes need to be returned constantly for plagiarism, grammar problems, spelling errors, not reading Guidelines, etc., then there really isn't any good reason for that person to be submitting more than one quiz at a time.
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#106390 - Wed Feb 25 2009 05:42 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: crisw]
Midget40 Offline
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The only thing I could see as a possible exception to this would be with the Brain Teasers. They are so uniquely different than the other quizs would there not be a rationale to be able to have one submitted in the usual quizs while being able to submit a brain teaser as well? Or would this not be easible from a programming point of view?

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#106391 - Wed Feb 25 2009 10:58 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Midget40]
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That really depends on the nature of the Brain Teaser quiz. Some are quite straight-forward and would rarely, if ever, need correcting. But there are other types that are less straight-forward than, say, the Drop-A-Letter quizzes. Other forms of 'brain teaser' and would need more work between author and editor, so I don't think you could really say that Brain Teasers are easy, therefore you can submit another one at the same time as any Brain Teaser.
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#106392 - Wed Feb 25 2009 01:13 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: guitargoddess]
Midget40 Offline
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Sorry GG, didn't mean that they were easy just totally different.

I imagine that most of the problems with usual quizs that people need to work on until they're good enough to be able to submit more than one are appilcable to all the other quiz catagories.

Brain teasers seem totally different. Apart from the obvious spelling and grammer it's a different skillset. You could be able to write a perfect quiz but not be able to do a Brain Teaser (and visa versa)

There's also the fact that Brain Teasers don't require interesing info which is where I imagine a lot of editing comes in.

I have no idea if this is true but it appears that way.

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#106393 - Wed Feb 25 2009 02:10 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Midget40]
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That's true, I suppose not requiring interesting info helps. But again, that depends on the nature of the brain teaser. If it's logic puzzles or something, those kinda DO require interesting info, because you have to explain to the quiz player how to arrive at the answer. I still think there are some types of brain teasers that would require a fair amount of editing work.

Perhaps we should wait for crisw to come along and tell us
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#106394 - Thu Feb 26 2009 02:48 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: guitargoddess]
Midget40 Offline
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Thats true, I was thinking of the very simple, basic ones I write which have nothing at all in common with my other quizs!

I was just frustrated recently because I submitted a brain teaser which went on line. I then submitted another quiz that took 4 weeks to get online - and no it wasn't bad (I got it online first go) but it had been changed catagories, then resaved so kept going back to the end of the queue and it was in one of the popular catagies.

During that four weeks others wrote the same type of brain teasers to mine that were very similar to ones I had written and had ready to submit so I had to scrap them all which was really annoying.

I guess this set of circumstances is not common but it just had me thinking because I couldn't see a rationale for me not being able to submit the rest of the brain teasers while I was waiting on the other quiz.

I do have some 'grammer issues' at times but this is not a problem in my brain teasers. So that where that comment originated

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#106395 - Thu Feb 26 2009 11:46 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Midget40]
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Trust me, Brain Teasers may be different, but if anything they require a lot MORE editing than the average quiz. Plenty of people do put lots of info in them; just because you don't have to doesn't mean that no one does!

I am actually trying to formulate fair rules to reduce the number of overly simple BT quizzes submitted. For example, I've asked Drop a Letter authors to submit just one quiz every 2 weeks. Once a category starts to look easy, people flood me with the things!


Edited by crisw (Thu Feb 26 2009 11:46 AM)
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#106396 - Thu Feb 26 2009 01:48 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: crisw]
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I tend to put info in my Brain Teasers quizzes and many others do too, I know that you don't have to however. I tend to rate BT quizzes with info a lot more generously than those without. If a quiz has no info - it is limited to an average rating in my system.

Cris, I think limiting the DaL quizzes to one every two weeks is a good idea. I know you weren't looking for any opinions on it but I thought I would jump in and give one anyway

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#106397 - Sun Jun 14 2009 03:00 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Linda1]
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I was pointed here to read this as I was asking about how long it takes to get a quiz online.

I have had mine in the 'submitted' mode for about 2 weeks now and was just wondering.

My quiz is in Literature/Sci-Fi

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#106398 - Sun Jun 14 2009 10:23 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: moondog83013]
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It's in there. The Literature category, at the moment, is quite full. You probably won't be waiting much longer though it appears that your quiz has only been in line for six days. Perhaps you've been making changes to it while it's been submitted?
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#106399 - Sun Jul 12 2009 10:41 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: kyleisalive]
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I'm getting the following error when checking for the current queue time estimates:

The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error.
Please contact the website administrator.

The following information is meant for the website developer for debugging purposes.

Error Occurred While Processing Request
File not found: /qsoze.cfm


Resources:
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.


Browser Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Remote Address 68.228.233.59
Referrer http://www.funtrivia.com/ql.cfm?cat=3533
Date/Time 12-Jul-09 11:39 PM

Stack Trace (click to expand)



coldfusion.runtime.TemplateNotFoundException: File not found: /qsoze.cfm
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:89)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:70)
at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:175)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86)
at coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilter.java:42)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter.doFilter(BootstrapFilter.java:46)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:106)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:284)
at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543)
at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)


Also, is it possible to post them somewhere else? They're rather hidden (unless they're posted somewhere I don't know about...)

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#106400 - Mon Jul 13 2009 01:56 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: PDAZ]
doublemm Offline
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I think this might be the link you're after PDAZ...

http://www.funtrivia.com/qsize.cfm

sorry but I don't know where to find it on the site.
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#106401 - Mon Jul 13 2009 03:14 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: doublemm]
guitargoddess Online   FT-cool
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I don't think you can find it on the site anymore, since the 'old profile page' link has disappeared. I haven't been able to find another link, anyway. (Except perhaps if you go to FAQ or some kind of 'getting started' page referring to writing quizzes, I believe there's a 'you can click here for an estimated wait time' link).

But I find it easiest to just type in the url.
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#106402 - Mon Jul 13 2009 03:32 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: guitargoddess]
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If you click on the "My Quizzes" link on the bar that also says "Welcome xxx", "Logout" and "My Home" - you will see a link that says "Queue Status" - this will give you the waiting times for each category.

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#106403 - Mon Jul 13 2009 03:43 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: jonnowales]
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I see 'Welcome', I see 'logout'... I don't see 'My Home' or 'My Quizzes'...
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#106404 - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:10 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: guitargoddess]
jonnowales Offline
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Really :O

This is what I see:

Welcome jonnowales · [Logout] · My Home · My Quizzes || Main Index · Search · Who's Online · FAQ

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#106405 - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:14 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: jonnowales]
demurechicky Online   content
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GG, It's on the Forum header, not the main page...

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#106406 - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:15 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: demurechicky]
guitargoddess Online   FT-cool
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OH! Thanks, chicky that clears it up. lol
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#106407 - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:17 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: guitargoddess]
jonnowales Offline
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Oh sorry GG and thanks DC

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#106408 - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:20 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: jonnowales]
demurechicky Online   content
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I just swapped a quiz today, as I realised that due to some of the questions, it was in the wrong category...and the waiting time is longer! C'est la vie, patience is a virtue lol

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#106409 - Mon Nov 16 2009 11:33 AM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Linda1]
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Loc: Tulsa Oklahoma USA          
Oh where. oh where has my little quiz gone, Oh where, oh where can it be. Hobbies cat., corrected and returned 11/10. 'Tea and Sympathy ......' etc.

Asking most respectfully.

Lizzie

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#106410 - Mon Nov 16 2009 03:14 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Englizzie]
skunkee Offline
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It probably would be better to send a private note to the editor who worked on it with you, rather than post in a thread about it!
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#106411 - Mon Nov 16 2009 03:21 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: skunkee]
Englizzie Offline
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I will take your advice. I really just want to follow correct protocol here.

Thank you.

Englizzie

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#106412 - Mon Nov 16 2009 09:49 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: Englizzie]
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I can't speak for the editors in the Hobbies category.

However, for me, correct protocol would be to, first, make sure the quiz actually was resubmitted. You can do this by looking at your "my quizzes - edit" screen - it will say "submitted" if the quiz is in the queue.

Second, I'd then assume that if the quiz hasn't been gotten to yet, it would be because there were other quizzes ahead of it in line, or because the editors were busy with real life and unable to edit, or because there were issues with the quiz that needed time to deal with.

As a very general rule "Why haven't you edited my quiz yet?" is not really a very useful question to ask. As long as the quiz is in tthe queue, someone will get to it as soon as possible.

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#106413 - Mon Nov 16 2009 10:19 PM Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time [Re: agony]
Englizzie Offline
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I did do all the necessary things to ascertain the status of the quiz. By contacting the editor in question today, I was able to learn that there were personal issues delaying the process.

I understand that Editors must, so often, feel pressured and unnecessarily put upon, but some of us are quite big and grown up people, who like to ask questions. Everyone is fallible at some time.

Lizzie

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