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#167149 - Mon Jul 27 2009 04:32 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: agony]
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My understanding of bubblesfun's quiz issue was that a submitted quiz was returned by an editor, and that bubblesfun already replied to the editor to clarify an issue, and has not yet received a reply.

If that is the case, bubblesfun, I would advise that you wait for a response. Perhaps while you are waiting you could re-read the quiz guidelines in the category you have submitted to and see if that clears anything up. But re-submitting the quiz without waiting for the editor to reply to your question, or without fixing anything, is not the way to go.
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#167150 - Mon Jul 27 2009 04:44 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: guitargoddess]
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Thanks Guitar -- that was exactly the question. Thanks to all that responded!
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#167151 - Wed Aug 19 2009 01:35 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: bubblesfun]
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I think I made a mistake..after submitting my first quiz and receiving a rejection notice (which was very kind and polite) I decided to delete the quiz. I had lost interest in it. Now, I can't author any other quiz, because of 'outstanding corrections on a quiz already submitted' or something like that. Please help?

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#167152 - Wed Aug 19 2009 10:08 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: ilovemaggic2]
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bubblesfun, I have sent you a private message.
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#167153 - Wed Aug 19 2009 10:21 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: ilovemaggic2]
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I think I made a mistake..after submitting my first quiz and receiving a rejection notice (which was very kind and polite) I decided to delete the quiz. I had lost interest in it. Now, I can't author any other quiz, because of 'outstanding corrections on a quiz already submitted' or something like that. Please help?




Because you didn't correct your errors or mark the quiz as corrected, the system still registers you as having uncorrected errors. You'll need to wait for the system to catch up to you- it should take only a few hours, but if it persists more than a few days, only the admins can find the answer.
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#167154 - Wed Aug 19 2009 06:01 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: kyleisalive]
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Quote:



Because you didn't correct your errors or mark the quiz as corrected, the system still registers you as having uncorrected errors. You'll need to wait for the system to catch up to you- it should take only a few hours, but if it persists more than a few days, only the admins can find the answer.




thanks very much. It has been at least a few months since I deleted it..so who are the admins?

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#167155 - Wed Aug 19 2009 06:45 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: ilovemaggic2]
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Your best bet would be to send a note to either crisw or gtho4. Both of them might be able to find a solution.
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#167156 - Fri Sep 04 2009 07:33 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: Linda1]
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It says on mine your previous quizzes have not been up to standard. More low quality submissions will result in loss of ability to write quizzes. Why are they so strict on quizzes, I thought this was a have a good time site but they act like your in English or Grammar class.

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#167157 - Fri Sep 04 2009 07:36 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: jbooker8]
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It says on mine your previous quizzes have not been up to standard. More low quality submissions will result in loss of ability to write quizzes. Why are they so strict on quizzes, I thought this was a have a good time site but they act like your in English or Grammar class.




Our standards have increased from when the site once began accepting quizzes. We have so many visitors to this site because our standards are so high for the quizzes - that is how Funtrivia stands apart from the rest.
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#167158 - Sat Sep 05 2009 12:43 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: ladymacb29]
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Why are they so strict on quizzes, I thought this was a have a good time site but they act like your in English or Grammar class.




If quizzes didn't have proper grammar and spelling, wouldn't they be too difficult to read and play?
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#167159 - Sat Sep 05 2009 02:23 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: kyleisalive]
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In the relatively short time I have been making quizzes I have noticed the increased strictness on grammar and spelling.

Grammar and punctuation are probably the toughest things for me to overcome (my English skills not being amazing), but I have researched things such as correct punctuation usage on the internet, so as to reduce the amount of editing the editors need to do.

If it is something I have to do to keep creating quizzes and make a good name for myself here, so be it.


Edited by doublemm (Sat Sep 05 2009 02:23 AM)
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#167160 - Sat Sep 05 2009 04:37 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: doublemm]
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Quote:

In the relatively short time I have been making quizzes I have noticed the increased strictness on grammar and spelling.

Grammar and punctuation are probably the toughest things for me to overcome (my English skills not being amazing), but I have researched things such as correct punctuation usage on the internet, so as to reduce the amount of editing the editors need to do.

If it is something I have to do to keep creating quizzes and make a good name for myself here, so be it.




So in fact you have been learning useful skills whilst 'playing' on the site, a bonus surely. I must say that I do stop and think sometimes before writing now.
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#167161 - Sat Sep 05 2009 05:00 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: sue943]
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The quiz editors have helped me to make better quizzes
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#167162 - Fri Jan 01 2010 07:18 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: kyleisalive]
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Why are they so strict on quizzes, I thought this was a have a good time site but they act like your in English or Grammar class.

I have trouble just reading this question - a whole quiz written like this would drive me spare! There are at least 4 major grammar/punctuation issues, most obvious of which is the 'your' (repeated in the previous question of the original posting)!

A good quiz question has to be easily read, so you are only being tested on your knowledge, not on your ability to interpret a poorly-presented quesiton>
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#167163 - Fri Jan 01 2010 07:21 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: looney_tunes]
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I forgot to preview that last posting - it should have ended 'question.', not 'quesiton>'. Proofreading is SO important!
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#167164 - Wed Feb 17 2010 03:32 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: looney_tunes]
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I'm fairly new in Quizzyland (Dec 2009) and only have a few quizzes on line. The one thing that astounds me is the amount of trouble people have getting quizzes accepted.

I try to use humour in my quizzes (in questions, answers and notes) and because of this I sometimes "push the envelope". This often results in correction notes from editors asking me to "tone it down" or "think of how <such and such> might view my joke" etc. Have a look at my team membership and you will get a better idea of what I mean.

At all times I have found the editors to be friendly, supportive and constructive. Given that they are volunteers we should all be grateful.

My simple rules for getting a quiz accepted are:

1. Keep it interesting

2. Use spell and grammar checking but get an educated human being to give it the once over as well. Microsoft are not perfect (notwithstanding their advertising).

3. Remember that the first two "W"s stand for "World Wide" and that people from non-English speaking backgrounds may be reading your quiz. They would have learned correct grammar, spelling and punctuation in their English class even though you may not have.

4. If you are asked to correct your quiz read what the editor has to say before shooting from the lip. If you don't understand then drop them a friendly note.

5. Be nice in all your correspondence. Even in the hypothetical circumstance that an editor is being a complete moron you will get a better response from all concerned if you keep your head. If you respond by also being a complete moron the other editors will probably not support you fully.

6. Don't use the Fora as your first port of call when you don't agree with an editor. Approach them nicely and if that doesn't work use the appropriate mechanism. (Did you notice the correct but somewhat obsolete use of "Fora" as the plural of "Forum" there? Yes, I am a smartypants so please don't bother hassling me).

Thnks for listeniing. Keep on questioning.

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#167165 - Wed Feb 17 2010 07:24 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: LillianRock]
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All good advice, LillianRock.


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#167166 - Wed Feb 17 2010 11:43 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: agony]
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I know there are some grumbles about the editors but the ones I have worked with have been very helpful. One in particular was great in getting me to sort out my capitalisation issues - I learnt a lot and I think/hope my quizzes have now improved in this area.

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#629447 - Sat May 28 2011 01:00 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: cazza2902]
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All of the editor's I've worked with have been great.

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#629566 - Sat May 28 2011 09:35 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: Oidioid32123]
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Almost all the editors I have dealt with have been extremely helpful.
When I needed to delete a submitted quiz because of a cultural issue that had arisen, the editor in question went out of her way to assist me, and told me how to save the quiz offline so that I can easily recreate it when the issue is no longer an issue.
And the advice I have been given has invariably made the quiz that bit better !
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#659276 - Fri Oct 07 2011 10:30 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: AnyaAngie]
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Well i have been trying for weeks and still havent got any thing dont what is going i sumbbited 1 changes keep on going up and down its not very for any one else would want to put on a quiz my quiz Music and is mixture.:)

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#659284 - Fri Oct 07 2011 10:49 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: anatalee]
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anatalee, according to the information I have access to, your Music quiz has never been submitted for editor review.

You currently have one quiz submitted about tennis. This quiz was originally submitted on 19 September. Then on 6 October you changed the category and re-saved. This puts a new submitted date on your quiz of 6 October and it is sent to the end of the editing queue.


Edited by LadyCaitriona (Fri Oct 07 2011 10:51 AM)
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#661922 - Tue Oct 18 2011 07:07 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: LadyCaitriona]
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I hope I am posting in the right area - my first post. I do have something of a general grievance on the editing of quizzes. A couple of my quizzes have had to go through extensive editing and re-editing; one of the reasons is that I am not supposed to have numerical answers to the film quizzes I do, another is that some of my questions are deemed too difficult, and therefore it will end up being rated poorly.

However a very new quiz on Doctor Who's second series has just gone online in the last couple of days. (1) It is incredibly difficult (2) One of the questions requires a numerical answer and (3) There is a grammatical error ("it's" instead of "its") in the preamble to the quiz.

I can't help but feel that there are double standards at play here. I am totally in support of the correct use of grammar and punctuation - I hate the misuse of the possessive apostrophe for example - so I am surprised that this glaring error got through; but these things happen. However I am somewhat aggrieved that the quiz seems to flout other 'rules' that I have not got away with.

As far as I am concerned, the quizzer concerned can make his or her quiz as difficult as they like; if I know nothing about Doctor Who's second series, I can choose not to play the quiz. I'm not going to rate it poorly just because I don't know the answers! I rate a quiz poorly if I think it's lazy (repeating questions from other, previous quizzes for example) or for many other reasons.

Finally there is a question on there which requires a numerical answer; again, I don't mind at all (if the answer is interesting) but once again why is that OK but not my question?

The kinds of quizzes I want to set are on specific films - 'Get Carter', 'Double Indemnity', 'Withnail and I' etc. I want to make these questions difficult (NOT impossible ie stupid questions like 'What's the car registration of the car in such and such scene') as the people who want to play such quizzes expect difficult quizzes. There's no point asking a devotee of a cult film like 'Withnail and I' who played 'Withnail', it's too easy. I got a very nice compliment from someone the other day on my 'Withnail and I' quiz who only scored 4 out of 10 but praised it for being 'very hard!'

I've gone on a bit but I'd be interested to hear what others think about this - and indeed what editors think.

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#661923 - Tue Oct 18 2011 07:10 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: Oidioid32123]
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Shame you've written "editor's" though!

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#661924 - Tue Oct 18 2011 07:14 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: anatalee]
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Don't want to be rude, but your two lines or so are almost unreadable; it may therefore be that your quiz(zes) is/are being rejected due to the poor grammar and spelling?

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#661927 - Tue Oct 18 2011 08:19 AM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: dersinghampaul]
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I'm not an editor for Movies or TV, but perhaps I can offer some general advice.

In terms of difficulty, there are many levels. There's difficult in terms of what an average viewer would find difficult, and then there's difficult in terms of what a really huge fan of the show would find difficult. Or it could be that the level of difficulty of that one question didn't fit with the overall level of difficulty of your quiz.

With respect to numbers questions, I know that I discourage players from using them (players don't enjoy them) but I make allowances if I feel the author has demonstrated that the number was poignant. For example, the answer to one question I allowed recently was "9 months" and in the info the author explained that a character likened the length of time to that of human gestation. A player is more likely to remember that than the number itself, making it a fair question IMHO.

Also, the Category Notes for Movies (main Movies page > Quiz Creation Notes for Movies > Unacceptable Questions > Numerical) states specifically: "Please avoid questions that ask about heights, weights, dates, time of day, or other numerical data. These questions are very boring to players who must guess at them, and can almost always be replaced by more interesting questions. Quizzes with numerical questions will probably be rejected." The Television category has no restriction about numerical questions, but the allowing or disallowing of a numerical question would still be at the discretion of the editor.
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#661999 - Tue Oct 18 2011 12:13 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: LadyCaitriona]
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Are some of the recent posts missing from this thread? I don't understand the comments in the last two posts by dersinghampaul... who they are directed to and what they refer to.
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#662002 - Tue Oct 18 2011 12:22 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: shuehorn]
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(Shuehorn: Are some of the recent posts missing from this thread? I don't understand the comments in the last two posts by dersinghampaul... who they are directed to and what they refer to.)


I think dersinghampaul's second post (number 661923) refers to oidioid's post number 629447.
Likewise dersinghampaul's third post (number 661924) seems to be a reply to anatalee's first post in this thread (post number 659276).

All this can be quite confusing. Therefor a word of advice: the best way to reply to a previous post is to copy it (or the part you want to reply to). See how I replied to Sue's question.
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#662029 - Tue Oct 18 2011 02:02 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: JanIQ]
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Originally Posted By: JanIQ
All this can be quite confusing. Therefor a word of advice: the best way to reply to a previous post is to copy it (or the part you want to reply to). See how I replied to Sue's question.


And the website has the functionality to do it for you by pressing quote. I agree. Thanks for the clarification, JanIQ.
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#662041 - Tue Oct 18 2011 02:12 PM Re: If you get a rejection notice on a quiz [Re: dersinghampaul]
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Originally Posted By: dersinghampaul
Don't want to be rude, but your two lines or so are almost unreadable; it may therefore be that your quiz(zes) is/are being rejected due to the poor grammar and spelling?


I think that written communication is a difficult thing. The tone doesn't get transmitted and the reader can take things more or less aggressively than they were intended. To be honest, your original post, dersinghampaul, sounded a bit defensive and rude how I read it. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, and on rereading it I cut you a little slack.

I too have had people ask me to simplify my quizzes, and even though I want to have tough ones, I have followed the suggestions. The quizzes are still not easy, but I do think they came out better, I had to force myself to give more information of interest. A quiz answer can be clever and difficult without being numerical.

Hang in there, and I look forward to playing your quizzes.

Sue


Edited by shuehorn (Tue Oct 18 2011 02:13 PM)
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