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#173461 - Sun May 25 2003 02:14 AM Governor-General Resigns
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Governor-General Peter Hollingworth has told Prime Minister John Howard he wants to resign.

In a statement, Dr Hollingworth said it was with deep regret and after much thought that he had told the prime minister he would have to step down.

"I have asked him to put the necessary arrangements in place to advise Her Majesty, the Queen," he said in a statement. "Despite the misplaced and unwarranted allegations made against me as governor-general, it is clear that continuing public controversy has the potential to undermine and diminish my capacity to uphold the importance, dignity and integrity of this high office that I have been privileged and proud to occupy."

Dr Hollingworth said he could not allow the controversy surrounding the governor-general's position to continue.

"I have asked the prime minister to call on me tomorrow so that we might discuss transitional arrangements," he said.

"I proposed to make a more detailed statement to the Australian people later this week."

- AAP

from The Age


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#173462 - Sun May 25 2003 03:11 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Well and truly Copago.

He should never have been appointed to the position and when all the allegations etc. surfaced he should have resigned on the spot.

Although this article is over twelve months old it does provide some information about the circumstances in the lead up to his resignation. Lateline Program

I am not necessarily in favour of the position of G-G however I do believe that the appointee should have an unblemished moral character.

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#173463 - Sun May 25 2003 03:23 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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He should never have been appointed to the position




Without getting into a religous debate, I agree wholeheartedly.

As for the latest scandal, well, I did feel just a teeny bit sorry for him in that one but the first one should have had him out on his ear.

Has the PM the ultimate power to fire him or is it a case of him telling the Queen to do it? (I realize that the Queen wouldn't step in but who can fire the GG?)

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#173464 - Sun May 25 2003 04:12 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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This is all new to me, we just got home from the flicks (Reloaded) .. and bloody good news to boot. This should have been finsihed a long time ago, by the bloke who recommended his appointment.

The PM and only the PM has the power to advise the Queen of the United Kingdom, aka the Queen of Australia, to teminate his appointment as her representative. She would comply, as she acts only on the advise of her Prime Minister(s) .. unlike someone in 1975. However, our mate Johnny sat on his behind and left him out to dry. How convenient he was at the SCG this afternoon; the whole thing was probably stage managed, as usual.

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#173465 - Sun May 25 2003 08:36 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Couldn't they just demote him to Governor-Private?

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#173466 - Sun May 25 2003 12:51 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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It is the question of what he did with his 'privates' that started the sorry affair in the first place
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#173467 - Sun May 25 2003 02:44 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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If that's the case Tielhard, then what's the problem - is this another case of the media finding a story they thought would fill a couple of lines of type or a few minutes of air time. Politicians private lives have, to me, less interest than the chap across the street taking his dog for a walk. Providing they are doing the professional job satisfactorily then what they do out of hours is of no concern of mine.
I do see the concerns and disapproval of non-elected posts in the Colony's( ) I too am not in favour of QUANGO's or (unlimited) Honorary Positions.


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#173468 - Sun May 25 2003 03:37 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Providing they are doing the professional job satisfactorily then what they do out of hours is of no concern of mine.





I'd love to agree with you , John, but this involved the abuse of children. Please note that he was never even accused of child abuse personally but in his role of Arch Bishop of Brisbane he let another priest keep on working with children when he knew this man was sexually abusing kids. (and what is a QUANGO? )

Gt? here's a thought for you ... How about Gough Whitlam as the next GG?

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#173469 - Sun May 25 2003 04:21 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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"He wasn't accused" - We have a similar situation in the UK - an Arch Bishop who reputedly ignored reports about priests.
I'm pretty sure that neither of them ever got to hear the actual facts (if they ever got to hear the story in the first place).
Abuse by priests/vicars isn't a new thing it's been going on for centuries- and it's always been covered up to protect the church (whichever Church/Mosque/Temple etc it is!)
I don't condone in any way shape or form the abuse of children (or adults) but I do think that people should be accorded the right of a fair trial.
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#173470 - Sun May 25 2003 04:33 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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There was no need for a trial as what Hollingsworth did wasn't illegal. Immoral - yes, illegal - no. He admitted turning a blind eye to it. NEVER has it been suggested that he laid one finger on a child inappropriatley just that he knew it was happening. I don't know about he knowing the full story but I think he knew enough.


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#173471 - Sun May 25 2003 05:25 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Don't mean to stir up a hornet's nest here but why in god's name does Australia NEED a governor-general?


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#173472 - Sun May 25 2003 05:49 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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We need a Govenor General because he ... no wait, let me think about this. He does ... mmm, nope that won't work. He is the .... nah, scrap that.

It is a purly ceremonial position nowadays, he is the Queen's, as our head of state, representative but in no way would the Queen or the GG ever think about stepping in on policies or the working of the country. He just gets to waltz around and open new hospitals and talk at CWA meetings all for six thousand dollars a week. Be a tough job, huh?

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#173473 - Sun May 25 2003 07:53 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Don't ex-Governors-General get to drink themselves silly and present Melbourne Cup winners with the trophy?

Jill, a QUANGO is an acronym for 'Quasi-Autonomous Non Government Organisation'- basically a useless department that has to spend most if it's time (and our money) trying to justify their existence.

And I agree with the sentiment of 'Who needs a G-G anyway?'. The word 'anachronism' springs to mind. How about some of the other quaint and totally useless official positions that we have, like Usher of the Black Rod, Serjeant-at-Arms, ASIO, etc?
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#173474 - Sun May 25 2003 08:04 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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'Usher of the Black Rod?' Lololol.. what on earth is that?

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#173475 - Sun May 25 2003 08:09 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Bertho, he is the guy that bangs the Black Rod on the doors to the Lower House (I think), when a new government comes to power. I am not sure what it is all about, but he probably gets 100 grand a year for doing five minutes work every four years or so..
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#173476 - Sun May 25 2003 08:10 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Governor Generals, eh??

We kicked ours about 55 years ago.

Which age are you Aussies living in? (B/w Who pays your G-boy 6 grand a week?)
Can't be the Britishers, for all I know!
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#173477 - Sun May 25 2003 08:34 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Ace, we should have followed suit and dumped the position too. The Republicans have been trying to do just that for ages and we have had a couple of referendums on the issue. The only reasons they were defeated was that the referendum questions were very 'loaded', and would only have given more power to the political party in office.

As to who pays? I will give you ONE guess... and it is NOT the Brits!
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#173478 - Sun May 25 2003 09:09 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Hollingworth as an Archbishop no less, did not take any action against the vicar/priest concerned and virtually turned a blind eye to the situation. Simple as that.

To me, that is virtually tantamount to endorsing the activities that took place. Why didn't he take any action? Did he think it wasn't important enough to protect children from abuse?

I'm sorry but this whole thing gets on my goat.

Please don't get me started on this one because I will start making statements that won't make sense or run together.

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#173479 - Sun May 25 2003 11:40 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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As to who pays? I will give you ONE guess... and it is NOT the Brits!





Don't tell me it's the KIWIS !!!
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#173480 - Sun May 25 2003 11:57 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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And now that he has left, Ace, he'll get over $160, 000 a year FOR LIFE just for giving us the pleasure of his company this last year or so.

And I'm sick of a few people (PM, other ministers, one child abuse organization) saying that we should be THANKING the ex - GG for respecting the office and the people of Australia by leaving. Geez.

Okay, so who should the new GG be? A few names were bandied about on the radio ... Dick Smith, Ernie Dingo (umm, don't like your chances) and Angry Anderson (even less of a chance than Ernie) to name a few.

Any suggestions?

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#173481 - Mon May 26 2003 12:04 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Isn't Dick Smith a staunch Republican? That could create a few 'interesting' situations!
Ernie Dingo and Angry Anderson? I think someone is pulling your leg, Jillian! How about Kim Beazley- he is doing very little at the moment.. or maybe Pauline Hanson?

I am just wondering if we will get to pay yet another tax- the GG send-off tariff.
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#173482 - Mon May 26 2003 12:19 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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The thing is that the people who suggested Ernie and Angry weren't kidding ... this was ABC radio afterall

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#173483 - Mon May 26 2003 12:57 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Could be this bloke... from all reports a decent chap, yet a Tasmanian with 'Green' as a surname is rather ummmm..

Sir Guy Green

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#173484 - Mon May 26 2003 01:39 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Johnny's still got the whatsies over Sir William Deane, a thorough gentleman, opening the Olympics as the rep of the Queen of the UK, aka as the Queen of Australia. He made sure he was there, and visible, behind Sir William - couldn't miss another photo opportunity to remind us who was PM. I doubt he'll appoint Sir Guy Green, he's too well liked and respected in Tasmania (as described by the Premier of Tasmania during an interview on the John Laws show the other week). He might pull another rabbit out of the hat by appointing Peter Cosgrove .. and surpise us all.
I doubt it .. and won't hold my breath waiting

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#173485 - Mon May 26 2003 01:59 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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To mis-quote an ex-PM".Well might he say say God save the Queen because nothing will save the ex-Governer-General."
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#173486 - Mon May 26 2003 02:05 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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LOL, roos! Very apt.

Peter Cosgrove would be the pick of the names I have heard so far (which is not saying much). Have we had a GG with a military background?
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#173487 - Mon May 26 2003 02:11 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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$160, 000 - by Jove!

(Could I apply for this post.....??)

It meets my requirement for a Job (In fact the only one which does so)
!) Sleep for 16 hours a day + eating/drinking allowance!


Our president (Ceremonial) gets Rs 20,000 ($400) a month! and he is the highest paid of all politicians!
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#173488 - Mon May 26 2003 02:14 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Without even a background check on him Cosgrove gets my vote.A gentleman that eminates strength and dignity from every pore.No chance that this bloke would be found hiding under the bed if the going got rough.
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#173489 - Mon May 26 2003 03:33 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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I agree. You Aussies need a Gee-Gee like a hole in the head but if you let your politicos give you such a loaded referendum on a Republic what do you expect?

However, I, Tielhard have the perfect solution to your problem. Why don't you get rid of the Gee-Gee and have the actual Queen of Australia instead? If you lot don't want to be a Republic then this is the alternative for you! We the people of the newly proclaimed United Commonwealth of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will pack Lizzy, Phil el Greco, Big Ears, Horse chops and all the rest of the brood in a large container, tape it up in a big pink ribbon and air freight it off to Oz tooty sweety. We will do this all for free gratis. We will even throw in a black rod, a couple of dozen foot persons and two gross Blue and Royals complete with horses and the little animals that live on their heads. All we want is your solemn promise you will never, ever let the bludgers back here again. Think of the potential you can subcontract some of them to the Kiwis and the tour revenues from trips to Canada will be simply huge. You can even marry them off for political advantage I’m sure the Sultan of Brunei has a female relative that would be willing to shack up with Wills.
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#173490 - Mon May 26 2003 03:41 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Tielhard, and what would you want in return for your extremely generous gift? Our weather, our wide open spaces, or our cricket team? How about Tasmania?
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#173491 - Mon May 26 2003 06:17 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Why don't you get rid of the Gee-Gee and have the actual Queen of Australia instead?




Got plenty mate. Brunswick St in Brisbane, Oxford in Sydney etc etc.... not that there's anything wrong with that

I don't know about Cosgrove. Certainly he's a fine bloke and has a brain in his head but I'd never heard of him until East Timor and that wasn't exactly a tough assignment. I haven't seen much from him except being a figurehead on a podium. I think I'm leaning more towards Dame Edna, she's Aussie royalty already!

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#173492 - Mon May 26 2003 01:54 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Bertho - Howsabout Dame Edna Everidge for Queen and Sir Les Patterson for Governor General (it would at least halve the pay check!)
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#173493 - Mon May 26 2003 02:22 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Lol, I think you're on to something there Fosse. I couldn't think of anyone more suited to the role actually. It would certainly make the news more entertaining

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#173494 - Tue May 27 2003 02:54 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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We the people of the newly proclaimed United Commonwealth of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will pack Lizzy, Phil el Greco, Big Ears, Horse chops and all the rest of the brood in a large container, tape it up in a big pink ribbon and air freight it off to Oz


Methinks that this is payback for Kylie and Rolf 'tie me kangaroo down sport'Harris. Sir Les Patterson was found outside the GGs` residence early yesterday,his picture appeared in the Mirror today,he was that keen for the position he arrived with his bag already packed!
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#173495 - Tue May 27 2003 02:14 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Was that ESP or inside info - Roos?

Sorry Copago - didn't mean to demean the thread, I totally agree that anyone who condones the abuse of children (or any other person regardless of their age) should not be in any position of priveledge or power. The resignation after admitting the knowledge of the offences but saying nothing about them is indefensible.


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#173496 - Tue May 27 2003 02:25 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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The Governor General would be the same as our Lieutenant Governor. Until the current one the post was awarded to a distinguished high-ranking serviceman, general, admiral etc before they finally went out to grass but this time they actually advertised the post in the national newspapers - we ended up with another military man anyway. How do they decide on who to give the GG post to? Is the position awarded or is it advertised and applied for?
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#173497 - Tue May 27 2003 02:47 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Technically the Queen appoints them but, recently and particularly, after the 'dismissal' of Gough Whitlam way back when it is the Prime Minister who chooses and recommends them to the Queen.

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#173498 - Tue May 27 2003 03:00 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Yes I know the Queen finally 'appoints' them but I wondered it was advertised like any other job (such as ours is now) or if it is a form of reward such as ours was until recently. Our L-G fulfills the same role as your G-G, Queen's representative, meets visiting dignatories etc but no teeth, lives in a big tied-cottage (Government House) and hosts the annual drinks party for the Queen's birthday, has no number plate on his official car. His gardener always wins lots of prizes in the horticultural show!
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#173499 - Tue May 27 2003 03:56 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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LOL!
Nope, it's not advertised at all, it's just the PM's pick. "Geez, that Peter Hollingsworth's a nice bloke, I think I might put him in as GG and see how he goes!" "Background checks? What for?"

In the last few days there are calls for it to be an elected position (will never happen) or at least a two thirds of the government to approve the decision.

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#173500 - Wed May 28 2003 02:30 AM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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Wishful thinking and a great sense of ineviatability Fosse.
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#173501 - Sat Jun 07 2003 04:02 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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#173502 - Sat Jun 07 2003 06:35 PM Re: Governor-General Resigns
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That is funny, snm!

There is one slight problem, though- we would not be able to understand him...
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