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#455576 - Tue Mar 31 2009 09:13 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Choco_nut]
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Well ... here's my [unofficial, make no mistake ] "ranks" going into tonight's show. In addition to Entertainment Weekly, USA Today and TV Guide, I also used results showing over on the American Idol Internet Database -- a fascinating site, by the way, if you're ineterested in ALL the seasons and how the various numbers square up against each other, combined. Lots (and lots) of data.

Nothing much changed drastically this week. Adam's numbers improved, of course, after his well-received take on "Tracks Of My Tears". Scott and Megan are so far imbedded, now, into the basement that it's just a shame. Allison gained some ground ... and all the others bounced around in between. Note: The numbers in bold reflect the singer's position on this makeshift roster last week.

1. Adam (1) - ranked #1 everywhere except on the TV Guide poll ... more about that in a minute ...
2. Allison (4) - moved up nicely. Got the pimp spot [which helped bunches] AND delivered a terrific show last week ... and it showed
3. Kris (2) - his steam remains steady, eh
4. Anoop (6) - essentially in a tie with Kris, only one point difference. He grabbed the highest number of votes, so far, on TV Guide, oddly enough
5. Matt (tie) (5) - stuck, especially after that entirely unnecessary visit to the Bottom Three last week
... Danny (tie) (3) - no comment. We'll have to wait and see how he handles the death of his grandparent this week. A little less conversation might serve him well ...
7. Lil (7) - unless she dazzles, it's almost as if she's got nowhere to go but to the silver stools v-e-r-y soon
8. Scott (9) - no comment
9. Megan (7) - she'll have a real hard time recovering from last week, indeed

And that's the *numbers* so far - none of which take into ANY consideration how they will, or might, do tonight, o' course. Woe be to poor Ryan Seacrest if Lil tanks tonight and he has to tell her she's in the bottom three Wednesday . She looked like she might slap him last week when he was just kiddng around. Note: Lil scares me a little bit more with each passing week . Just my opinion, however ...
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#455577 - Tue Mar 31 2009 06:12 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Gatsby722]
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that look on Lil's face when she thought she might be bottom 3.. I didn't care for that, that she was shocked that she might possibly have been in the bottom. Too cocky. Especially considering she hadn't had a stellar performance
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#455578 - Tue Mar 31 2009 07:25 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: guitargoddess]
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Kinda hard to pick my bottom three this week.. based just on tonight's performances, I think I'd go with Megan, Lil and either Scott or Anoop
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#455579 - Tue Mar 31 2009 10:17 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: guitargoddess]
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Anoop (Usher) - It was ok. He may be in trouble this week.

Megan (Bob Marley) - omg, I just wanted to fast forward to the end of her singing. That blew chunks.

Danny (Rascall Flatts) - One of my favorite RF songs. He did ok. I think he has a great voice, but not sure this was the best song choice for him. Will he be back next week? Yeah, I believe he will. The judges must have better sound quality than we do, coz it wasn't fantastic for me.

Allison (No Doubt) - wow, I don't really like this song, but I DID like her singing it tonight. Love seeing her with the guitar. She looked great, too. I think Simon was WAY off base with her.

Scott (Billy Joel) - THIS is what Scott is, the piano man. He shines when it's him and the piano. Probably his best performance. And I was loving his outfit and hair

Matt (The Fray) - how odd... didn't like the beginning, and playing in the audience was really weird. I like Matt, but did not like this performance at all.

Lil (Celine Dion) - I actually liked her tonight. She has this HUGE voice and used it well tonight. She looks absolutely stunning, too. Omg, how adorable was it with Randy and Lil's daughter?

Adam (Funky Music, baby!!) - holy jeebus y'all, this white boy ooooooooozes sexy. I can't wait to see him perform every week. Fantastic.

Kris (Ain't no Sunshine) - Love the opening. Wow, I think this is the first week I have really liked Kris. This was fantastic, definitely his best performance.



My bottom 3 based on performance - Megan, Anoop and Matt. Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaase send Megan home.
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#455580 - Tue Mar 31 2009 10:32 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: guitargoddess]
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that look on Lil's face when she thought she might be bottom 3.. I didn't care for that, that she was shocked that she might possibly have been in the bottom. Too cocky. Especially considering she hadn't had a stellar performance.




Yes, and she really isn't living up to the early hype. Tonight she was "shrill Lil" again - she keeps going for those power ballads and not quite getting it right. I couldn't say exactly what she needs to do - I don't see her doing Mary J Blige either (sorry judges) without sounding imitative - but I know Celine Dion wasn't the right thing either. I’d like to see her try something softer that doesn’t require a shrieking build-up to the power note.

If I had to pick a bottom 3 it would be:

Megan
Megan
Megan

Not only did she commit the sacrilege of destroying a Bob Marley song, she didn’t even look all that good this week. So what is there to vote for this week? Even her speaking voice is getting to me now. I’m probably not being fair, but I really don’t want to listen to her one more week. Please!!

Anoop and Scott weren’t all that great either. The judges' critique of Anoop was pretty much what I was thinking – I thought it was a very amateurish and looked to me like a kid trying to wear grown-up clothes and do grown-up things. The song just didn’t fit him. He obviously has a very different idea of who he is as a singer than what the rest of us do. When he does ballads and such, he really shows off his vocals, but R&B? I think it’s a bit of a reach.

I agreed that this was one of Scott’s best weeks, but that isn’t saying a lot for me. He’s a really nice piano player, but not a very consistent singer. He always has quite a few flat or sharp notes going on there. But he must work like a son-of-a-gun to get it all together, so it’s hard to hope for his exit. I just like listening to the others so much more.

And Matt did okay with the Fray song, but I thought he was off-key for some of it and I didn’t hear many changes from the original. And I don’t know if playing in the middle of all those people (his adoring fans?) was anything but arrogant. I like the song, but wasn’t that thrilled by this version.

The other three performances tonight just blew me away: Danny, Adam (surprise) and Kris. OMG!! I have never heard the Rascal Flatts version of “What Hurts the Most” but I would definitely go out and buy this version of it. I thought Danny put the exact right spin on it – rising to the great vocals at the end. Very heartfelt and it really exhibited his skills well.

When I heard that Adam was going to do “Play That Funky Music” I cringed. Boy that song could lend itself to over-singing and buffoonery – and I’m always scared that Adam is going to take his theatricality that one step too far. But he didn’t. It was very different from Wild Cherry’s version – in a good way. I did notice that he didn’t really sing much of the last half of the song – he left it up to the background singers and used his incredible vocal skills to do the riffs and embellishments. But I don’t think the judges noticed and I think it was the right decision anyway. And he kept the “performance” well in hand. I could see him already headlining his own show. That doesn’t mean he’ll win, necessarily (Daughtry comes to mind), and I think the prevailing idea that he might be the frontrunner may wind up hurting him. But I hope not, because I love watching him and listening to him and hope to keep doing that right until the end.

But Kris. Oh my. I have never been a big supporter – he’s seemed pretty unoriginal to me before - but I was really amazed at what he did with one of my favorite songs. I couldn’t imagine anyone touching that song, but he made it totally different from the Bill Withers version in a really beautiful way. I hope they put this one on the “best of” album. It was fantastic.

And my Allison – I still love her. This wasn’t her best night and that was only partly because of her hideous outfit. I’m glad they mentioned it, though – to me it was ummm…. Ziggy Stardust meets Cyndi Lauper meets Rocky Horror. Who is dressing her? Is she getting some help from a stylist? Even her mom? Ah well – her vocals were good, but not as good as usual. The song really didn’t show them off the way other songs have, but she’s got an amazing voice. I just hope the audience gives her the benefit of the doubt this week and forgives the outfit because she’s such a fantastic singer.

Every year – at least for the last couple of years – I’ve remarked on how many really good singers there are and how hard the competition is. At first I thought this year was going to be an exception, but this week I have to say – these guys have really brought their game up all across the board. If I was basing a win just on tonight’s performances, I wouldn’t be surprised with a Kris or Danny win. I still like Adam and Allison best overall, but I’m super impressed with how the other two guys did tonight.

My 2 cents (now you guys have me taking notes during the show too).

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#455581 - Wed Apr 01 2009 03:44 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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Randy and the whole 'dude''baby' 'dawg''man' business is starting to grate on me.

making notes as I go along here.

Anoop.. meh. I still think he looks wrong.

I know Megan is very attractive but that tattoo really puts me off her. (I just heard everyone with a tatoo make a gasp)I also know she is in trouble this week (Kara told me )

I've never heard of Rascall Flatts but it sounded okay on Danny. Glad he didn't dance!

Allison is starting to grow on me .. seems they are letting her have a bit more personality and I loved her with the guitar. Had to laugh at the "I grew up listening to this song" and "she grew up less than 20 miles ..". She's 16 .. she's still growing. Like the judges I wish she would get a new stylist.

Like the Scott look this week .. a little less Art Garfunkle like. He's never going to be the winner but I think he has a place somewhere in the music industry.

Matt. Hmmm. I can take him or leave him .. he hasn't done anything that has made him stand out to me yet. Tonight was no exception.

Lil. Hardley recognised her! I like it but didn't think it was outstanding. Nice touch with the tears at the end .. not saying they were fake .. just it was a nice touch. I don't think it will hurt her votes at all

Adam. Why would my husband choose now to talk to me?? sheesh. Bit scream-y in parts but still loved it .. of course. it's almost like he's getting to the stage where he could come out and sing Mary Had a LIttle lamb and everyone would fall over him. If he doesn't do an Elvis song at some stage then something is wrong.

I missed Kris - was putting the lad to bed.

Bottom three - Megan, Anoop and ... can't decide

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#455582 - Wed Apr 01 2009 08:33 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Copago]
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Megan (Bob Marley) - omg, I just wanted to fast forward to the end of her singing. That blew chunks.





How true, SMS.

I'm going to keep it brief tonight, I'm pretty pooped and everyone has pretty much said what I'm thinking anyway.

Best for me tonight:

Kris: By far the best tonight.

Adam: Not as good as last week but I still love him.

Allison: I loved the start of her song, just stripped back with the vocals and the guitar. I'm so over the judges comments with her.. grrrr

I read that Adam's dad posted online that he didn't get his first choice of song (what's new?) and only had 24 hours notice with "Play That Funky Music". That would explain his thanks to Rickey Minor and the band, I think. If that is true, he did a damn fine job of it and proves how good he really is.

Another funny thing I read was the guy who shouted out"Broken Record" to Kara, was none other than Megan Joy's brother CJ. Apparently Kara went over to him in the ad break and didn't look very happy, said something and then stomped off. She also went back later and tried to make light of it all. On Kara's comment "Studio 57": last time I heard it was Studio 54 Kara ..

Paula had some new words in her vocabulary tonight.. Wow! She was on some Planet alright, I'm not quite sure which one?

Anyway, I did say BRIEF.. well, sort of brief..

Bottom 3: Megan, Lil, Scott.

Bye Bye Megan.. sorry Gats

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#455583 - Wed Apr 01 2009 09:32 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Choco_nut]
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Oh yeah, forgot to add my comments on Allison's look last night. I think the outfit wasn't necessarily THAT bad, it was the hair that pushed the look into hideous. Had she worn that dress with a normal-looking head, might have been okay.

And I want Adam looking like Sexy-Adam again with eye makeup and nail polish and everything.
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#455584 - Wed Apr 01 2009 10:27 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: guitargoddess]
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Funny, until Danny Archuletta came along last season I don't recall much mentioned about not having the rights to songbooks.

Last night Danny mentions his Motown song was like his 5th choice because they couldn't get the rights, and then whatever Adam wanted to do couldn't be made available? Is some of that do to the popularity of the show and the music holders putting the squeeze on or what? Kind of hard to yell at contestants for wrong song choices, if their choices aren't available.

I really wanted to like Megan at the outset because she was a bit different. Kind of think both she and Lil have a bit of the same problem. Both of them are singers without much experience, and I think without any real musical knowledge. Both are at a disadvantage with the others who play instruments and have a working knowledge of how to change up a song a bit. Both of those women have probably spent their lives singing along to the radio and it shows in their performances.

I still wish Allison didn't sing so much in the back of her throat. Unfortunately I'm starting to think the best female went out the door when Alexis exited.

Kris has gone from being non-descript to another one who is interesting to watch. He's not the same type as Adam but stays within himself and delivers. Matt is floundering and I hated that whole keyboard among the audience schtick. He will probably be in trouble again.

Scott? Nice guy, but I really hope the exposure he gets lets him bring success to his family's inspirational group. Afraid that's the niche he's already comfortable with, and there is nothing wrong with that, but it isn't exactly Idol material. I thought his hair looked ridiculous, but at least they didn't put the poor guy in pastel pants.

For me, Megan, Scott or Matt will be exiting. And no saves.

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#455585 - Wed Apr 01 2009 11:18 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Tredici]
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Allison is starting to grow on me .. seems they are letting her have a bit more personality and I loved her with the guitar.




I was really happy to see both these things this week. I was really impressed that she had the confidence to add the guitar to her performance and to do it so well. She looked very professional (except for the outfit ) and like she'd been doing this for 40 years (not just less than 16). The girl has a lot of talent as a musician. When I think about it, the outfit may have been very clever - it certainly got her noticed and the judges paid attention to her this time instead of ignoring her with their childish hijinx.

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I really wanted to like Megan at the outset because she was a bit different. Kind of think both she and Lil have a bit of the same problem. Both of them are singers without much experience, and I think without any real musical knowledge. Both are at a disadvantage with the others who play instruments and have a working knowledge of how to change up a song a bit.




That's a really good point, Tredici. It's really not the easiest thing to adapt songs to your vocal range or to get up in front of millions of people and perform (I know I couldn't do it). I know that's what they signed up for, but it does put those without this experience at a major disadvantage. The contest has really become a competition for semi-professionals and the real raw talent has to be really superior to make up for it. Or have a very likeable personality (what else would explain Taylor Hicks?).

I'm looking forward to hearing David Cook tonight.

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#455586 - Wed Apr 01 2009 12:23 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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The thing that struck me most last night was what an absolute travesty it is that Megan's still up there while Alexis Grace is not. It was painful to watch. And she said "Vote for me guys AGAIN!

Anoop has a great voice, but he bored me to tears. Scott always bores me to tears, but I did think it was his best performance to date, hands down. And the best thing I can say about Lil is that I thought her new hairdo looked really pretty.

My bottom 3: Megan, Anoop, Scott. [I can't comment on Matt, as I got a phone call, and despite saying, "I can't talk right now -- American Idol's on," I missed his entire performance.]

Danny finally got back to singing a song that really suited his voice. But did anyone else think the music was way too loud and completely drowned him out? That violin was completely screeching in my ear the whole time and I was straining to hear the vocals. I look forward to hearing the studio version when my borrowed computer speakers are returned. (Teenagers! )

I was a bit disappointed in Allison's performance. When I heard her song choice I thought it would suit her well, so I was surprised when she wasn't quite up to par. And I know many of us have commented on it before: just who exactly is styling these people? Dennis Rodman??

Kris was surprisingly good tonight. I'll be interested to see how he fares in the Gatsby Poll.

And Adam...always, always interesting, no matter what!

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That doesn’t mean he’ll win, necessarily (Daughtry comes to mind), and I think the prevailing idea that he might be the frontrunner may wind up hurting him.




I always felt that what happened to Chris Daughtry was that people thought his success was so guaranteed that they chose to use their votes to support others. This may well happen to Adam eventually, as people think he doesn't need their support. I was, and still am, a huge Daughtry fan, but what strikes me as the difference between Adam and Daughtry is that every week, I absolutely cannot wait to see what Adam's gonna do next. I didn't like this performance as well as some others, but next week I'll be waiting with baited breath, just the same!
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#455587 - Wed Apr 01 2009 12:47 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: StarfishTwo]
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I was, and still am, a huge Daughtry fan, but what strikes me as the difference between Adam and Daughtry is that every week, I absolutely cannot wait to see what Adam's gonna do next.




Adam is definitely more of a chameleon - I also wait with bated breath to see what he's going to come up with the next week. And so far I haven not been disappointed. I did experience this a little with Daughtry too, though - I always looked forward to seeing how he was going to "rock up" the latest category. I couldn't imagine what he would do for "country" week, for instance, and then he blew me away with "I Walk The Line" (still my favorite Idol performance to date).


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always felt that what happened to Chris Daughtry was that people thought his success was so guaranteed that they chose to use their votes to support others. This may well happen to Adam eventually, as people think he doesn't need their support.




I agree. I think that this may have been when audience members first realized that this could happen and, consequently, have been less likely to vote for the second-favorites. I hope.

In the end, I think Chris Daughtry's early exit was one of the best things that could've happened to him. It gave him a chance to form his own band right away and get into the studio. At the same time, he got access to the Idol producers and star-machine. And who won that year?

David Cook's first album has been very successful so far, but I can't wait to see what he'll do for the second one. Y'know I wonder how much creative control the Idol winner has on their first album? Am I assuming they have less than they do?

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#455588 - Wed Apr 01 2009 01:30 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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David Cook's first album has been very successful so far, but I can't wait to see what he'll do for the second one. Y'know I wonder how much creative control the Idol winner has on their first album? Am I assuming they have less than they do?






That's a really good point. Now that I think about it, maybe it would be better for someone like David Cook, Adam Lambert, Chris Daughtry to place, say, third or fourth in American Idol rather than win. The way I see it, Chris Daughtry still got the exposure and boost that he needed by making it as far as he did, but in the end he got to do what he wanted. He got to record as Chris Daughtry, not Chris Daughtry the American Idol Winner.
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#455589 - Wed Apr 01 2009 02:01 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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It was a mixed night for me. There appears to be a definite line between those who have musical training and those that don't (as tredici mentioned). I actually looked on the AI webiste to see who had singing training and who didn't -- most did not, but you can tell that Allison and Adam do.

Anyway, Anoop just falls into the category of the inexperienced. He's got a good voice, but he lacks the artistry. It was an Usher imitation.

Matt, Matt, Matt... poor fella is really quite lost on how to approach his game. He doesn't know how to pick a song -- something he likes, or something the judges like... how about something the general public in America will like? I feel for him, he is enormously talented and he just needs to show it with the right song choice.

I haven't been impressed with Lil the last 3 weeks. I didn't care for her version of that Celine Dion song. To me big notes don't necessarily equate to great singing. I thought she was rather bland.

Scott did pick it up a notch, but I can't help comparing his vocals to Billy Joel and he comes up short. He appears to be missing the passion that Danny, Kris, Matt and Adam all have.

I liked Danny's performance, but I thought his vocals sounded a little strained. I think he needs to expand the style of music a bit, because he's falling into one of the comfortable zones where he sounds similar every week.

I liked Allison's take on No Doubt. I liked the way she started out softly and tenderly, and the added guitar was a nice touch. Her hair looked great. I didn't even really pay much attention to her clothing, but the judges sure came down on her hard for that. Why, just last we were commenting on how "dowdy" she looked. I think she'll get it right eventually.

I am coining a new word, "Meganize". This is what she does to every song she sings, and I don't think it's necessary for her to put her "jazzy" spin onto every note of every song. She tortured that Bob Marley song. I really don't understand her song choices.

Adam clearly stands above the others when it comes to stage presence. He really commands the attention of the room. I'm not a huge fan of that song, but I still think he did a great job. And whoa, that last note of his went on forever, talk about vocal chops!

Kris is amazingly talented too. I used to prefer Matt to Kris, but I think Kris's song choices and his ability to make songs his own outshadow Matt's efforts. Kris does it effortlessly, Matt tries too hard.

Well that's my 2 cents, we'll see what happens tonight! I'm looking forward to seeing David Cook too

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#455590 - Wed Apr 01 2009 02:35 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Squisher]
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Why, just last we were commenting on how "dowdy" she looked. I think she'll get it right eventually.




I think you're right, Squisher. I think Alison is going to get it right. Or maybe she knows something that we don't about the audience she wants to attract. Anyway, I think (hope) it's true that people aren't really voting for contestants based on looks anyway. She definitely has a stellar voice and a professional maturity way ahead of anyone else I've seen in her age group on this show (and many not in her age group).

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#455591 - Wed Apr 01 2009 09:57 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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SPOILERS BELOW ...



Yaaaayy Yaaaayyy Yaaayy

Not that I hate her, but I'm so happy it was Megan leaving at last - especially when she was up against Anoop and (agh!!!) Allison for the bottom spot! BTW, what was all that arm-flapping and cawing about? Did I miss something?

I know I shouldn't have worried about Alison this time because I'm pretty sure they'd use the "save" if people were so foolish as to let her get such a low "score." But I am still worried that she keeps ending up down there. Why why why? Any ideas? Was it the song? The outfit? Temporary insanity? Audience tone-deafness.

And didn't most of the contestants seem a little high this week? A weird vote-off show.

And, I have to say, David Cook was HOT HOT HOT! Loved his performance. Nice to see him doing so well.

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#455592 - Wed Apr 01 2009 11:12 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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It's nice to see the comraderie between this season's contestants.

The only clue about the flapping and cawing is, they kept saying "Don't forget to call" and someone must've heard it as "Don't forget to caw". Maybe said by someone who was already leaving? Who knows. But that was one of the wierdest exits I can recall. Megan was trying a little too hard to be quirky. Bit over the top. Which probably drew Simon's abrupt dismissal. But I think it was actually a good thing that he told her straight up and we were all spared any needless drama over Ryan's putting on his serious "Will you save her" face.

Allison needs to let the stylists turn her into a 16 year old youngster without that God-awful pink or orange or whatever the heck color it is hair. She can do some simple research. No girl with the "statement" hair has made it very far in the competition.

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#455593 - Thu Apr 02 2009 03:31 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Tredici]
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Yep, I'm happy with the result too. She was just getitng weirder and weirder Yay for Simon for the exit message. lol

Lady Gaga .. hat the heck was that? And she's number one in the US right now?? And you people are voting for American idol? ugh, I must be getting old.

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#455594 - Thu Apr 02 2009 03:42 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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Yaaaayy Yaaaayyy Yaaayy






That is exactly what I was going to say!

I'm so happy Megan is gone. I wonder what drugs she was on, though. That was weird even for her!

Allison should NOT have been in the bottom 3, dagnabit. She's 16 years old and dressing like one. How confusing is it to have the judges tell her one week to quit singing 'old-fashioned' songs or stop dressing like someone twice her age and then when she DOES they don't like that either? Get a clue. Sheesh.

David Cook = YUMMY

I'm still a fan of Scott and I don't care what anyone else thinks. *lmao* I want a slice of his quadruple chocolate cake! *droooool*
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#455595 - Thu Apr 02 2009 05:30 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: SilverMoonsong]
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BTW, what was all that arm-flapping and cawing about? Did I miss something?





According to some sites it was a "shout out" to the site Vote For The Worst.. They had Megan as their pick to keep in the competition. She became their "songbird" after she sang Rockin Robin with her "Caw Caw" at the end of the song. Pictures on their site of Megan have birds in them. So that is what she probably meant by her "Vote for me guys" comments... She obviously reads the forums..

That was one exit alright How snotty was King Simon tonight? After the "I don't care" comment from Megan he basically slammed the door right in her pretty face. Warning to contestants: Don't mess with Simon (or Kara) or else you are outta there!

I loved seeing David Cook tonight although I didn't really like that song very much.. I don't know what it was but he didn't seem to have the 'spark' that he usually has, maybe he's a bit tired with all the work he's been doing.

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#455596 - Thu Apr 02 2009 08:11 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Choco_nut]
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Not only was it weird, but Megan's departure was one of the more abrupt I can remember. Simon's comment notwithstanding, Paula didn't even do her sad face "You're a beautiful girl/You've got a lot of talent/This isn't the end of the road for you/I know you'll go far" speech.

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Lady Gaga .. hat the heck was that? And she's number one in the US right now?? And you people are voting for American idol? ugh, I must be getting old.




I live in the US, and I was thinking the same thing. Never heard of her, or her silly song -- but a few seconds in, I decided to use the remainder of her performance for a potty break.
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#455597 - Thu Apr 02 2009 09:38 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: StarfishTwo]
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I've never heard of her either. One of my younger colleagues says she is more of a "club scene techno trash singer" (for those of you familiar with the genre) and even he said, there is a reason she should stay at the club level after seeing her perform last night.

Thanks for the explanation, Choco-Nut. It also explains the "Don't forget to call" comments. It also explains much of Megan's defensiveness.

Thought Anoop won the imitating contest with his version of Kris. That one was funny.

Also, beat down Matt just automatically heading toward the loser's section and having to be re-directed. He needs to find some of the confidence Kris has mustered up of late.

One thing I will give this season, it definately has been more interesting with such an eclectic mix.

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#455598 - Thu Apr 02 2009 10:16 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Tredici]
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Eeek ! I've been unable to get online since Tuesday afternoon ... and it would appear that I've missed out on the discussion for this week, by now. Sigh. But 'twas grand reading all your comments - I find that I agree with all of you. Was it possible for anybody really, to not have cringed at whatever that was Megan did. That was two bloody solid train wrecks in a row ... thank heavens the remaining trains (and the hapless passengers in them) are safe now that she's [ahem] flown the coop. Maybe it was just me, too, but [and I feel uncomfortable saying so, but can't help it ...] she seemed slightly mentally ill, or something, as she went Wednesday night. Very odd behavior. There's some merit, always, in making a little fun of oneself - using yourself as the target of said fun. Seemed to me that she was beyond all that -- and essentially making a completely adolescent-like *fool* of herself.

Just my opinion, but I thought this week's was the worst (post Tatianna, anyway) show of the season. The only ones I remember with any clarity and/or a smile on my face is Kris and [how'd this happen ?] Scott. Sadly, Scott's damned either way, I'm thinking. If he keeps up that startlingly-good-in-spots comfort zone - his voice truly soared in the bottom half of that tune - he'll get called repetitive. If he tries anything else, he's bound to pretty much suck. But I tell ya: he had one heckuva Billy Joel-ish moment there. Not to mention a cake that put 5 pounds on me just by looking at it . Kris was solid. Kris gets more impressive weekly. Does Kris have anything close to the *David Cook* factor, changing it up each week one step better than the week before? Maybe not, but he's clearly the most improved (on all fronts) so far this year. I'm pretty much with everybody on Adam - it's the theme of each week, isn't it? "I've gotta watch 'American Idol' this week, for sure - partly because I'm shamelessly addicted but, more that that? I simply must see what Mr. Lambert will be up to this time !" I didn't think he was all that great this week, though (it seems I'm aging badly, or something ... the stripped-down, non-screaming versions of things get my attention better -- I'm still not over Von Smith just yet ). And Matt was just dreadful again, wasn't he? Somebody explain that to me: last week he was across-the-board awesome (and most reviews back that up). Off to the Bottom Three (two?) for him, though. This week he was only a minor bird call/wing flap better than Megan and ... off to the Bottom Three with Allison? Alas, perhaps some things are better left as mysteries.

To close (I'm a day behind on internet stuff and must get caught up)? I've got three words for you: Don't forget to caw!
Indeed .
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#455599 - Thu Apr 02 2009 11:39 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Gatsby722]
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Megan was trying a little too hard to be quirky. Bit over the top. Which probably drew Simon's abrupt dismissal. But I think it was actually a good thing that he told her straight up and we were all spared any needless drama over Ryan's putting on his serious "Will you save her" face.




I guess she knew she was going anyway so she wanted people to remember her for something? Just a theory.

I have to say, I'm really hating this idea of "sing for your life." It kind of makes sense on "So You Think You Can Dance," where very different dancers are forced to dance with a partner who may or may not be up to their skill level. It gives the judges a chance to say "here, this is why we're choosing to save this person." But here on Idol, they've already done their solo bit and "sung for their lives" and it's just a little bit of cruel to give them that hope. I'm glad they didn't do that with Megan this week - not that I think even she would have believed she might get saved. She saw that writing on that wall. But I keep thinking of poor Alexis singing her heart out, and I cringe.

To be clear, I DO like the idea of the save. Sometimes things go horribly wrong (Allison in the bottom 3 again? Really!!?). But the nastiness of false hope that the "sing for your life" idea represents really smacks of a cheap way to gain ratings for the vote-off show at the expense of the feelings of the contestants and their fans.

Just my 4 cents (more 'cause it required thinkin').

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#455600 - Fri Apr 03 2009 02:17 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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One of my younger colleagues says she is more of a "club scene techno trash singer" (for those of you familiar with the genre)




Club scene techo trash. Hmmm. I guess I really am old now. You know, I guess that's OK with me. Can't imagine wanting to be part of that scene!

Gatsby!!! You were missed!! I wasn't ready yet to ring your doorbell to make sure you were still alive in there, but your absence and pithy comments were duly noted!

Since my motto is, "If it's not chocolate, it's not dessert" I do feel a new kinship with Scott now. This week's improved performance duly noted, he still needs a better voice and a better hairdo.

And I'm with you, Gats -- I've been standing in line at the American Idol methodone clinic for years now, but no one's ever made me quite so anticipatory as Adam Lambert, simply due to the "anticipatory" factor. He hasn't sold me as a die-hard fan yet as did Chris Daughtry*, but I find myself much more curious each week to ride the ride.

* Ysmay, I agree! The Daughtry performance of "I Walk The Line" is the only Idol performance I've ever Youtubed -- years later, even!

"Sing for your life" is crap. They should base their decision on the performance already given. I've already commented on the losing contestant singing the losing song again -- closing the show with the worst song of the night is ridiculous. They're either gonna save someone or they're not -- to pretend that they will base their decision on that one performance is utter bullhockey.

(Their shining examples -- Tamyra Gray and Chris Daughtry came both in 4th and couldn't have been "saved" under the new rule, anyway. They could have "saved" Jennifer Hudson, but everyone knows Simon wouldn't have.)

I don't have a problem with the new rule, I'm just already tired of the needless hype, when everyone knows how it's going to go.
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#455601 - Sun Apr 05 2009 08:23 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: StarfishTwo]
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I know I shouldn't have worried about Alison this time because I'm pretty sure they'd use the "save" if people were so foolish as to let her get such a low "score." But I am still worried that she keeps ending up down there. Why why why? Any ideas? Was it the song? The outfit? Temporary insanity? Audience tone-deafness.





I'm not so sure they will use the save on Allison, Ysmay.. ever. I'm thinking Allison just doesn't live up to their idea of an Idol. She's at the age where she should be having fun being a teenager and AI would put a stop to all of that if she became the winner. It just got me thinking when I re-watched the video of the results show. Allison and Megan seemed to be good friends, (which is great for them) but the fooling around on the results show (with the cawing and flapping) was probably a bit over the top and you could see that Simon was not impressed at all. Simon, in particular, has not given Allison any outstanding comments so far (that I can remember) so that tells me something..

I hope that she does make it to the top 3 at least, I think she does deserve it. The way it stands now, I would like to see an Adam/Allison finale or even Kris to sneak in the final as the dark horse if Allison doesn't make it.

This week's theme is the "Year They Were Born".

Here's the years, so maybe we can all have a guess at what they might sing..

Danny - 1980
Adam - 1982
Lil - 1984
Kris - 1985
Matt - 1985
Scott - 1985
Anoop - 1986
Allison - 1992

I'm going to take a look and see what I can find.. I got Matt's right last week but he didn't quite nail it like I thought he would. His iTunes studio version was much better than the performance last week. Matt really needs to get over the nerves, his recorded voice sounds great. It's just a shame he hasn't been able to produce that on stage yet.

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#455602 - Sun Apr 05 2009 01:23 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Choco_nut]
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Ooh, I could see Adam doing "Open Arms" by Journey. Then again, he's so unpredictable I feel that any suggestion I make could be wrong, wrong, wrong.

Is Danny really that old? Isn't that verging on too old for the competition? Hmm.. 1980.. maybe something by the Clash?

Lil - Maybe a less pop-y version of something Madonna? or "Whats Love Got to Do With It"

Kris - really not sure.. he's hard to pin a style to

Matt - could see doing Foreigner or Tears for Fears, maybe

Scott - dunno

Anoop - hmm.. not sure if it'd be a wise move, but Beastie Boys?

Allison (people born in the '90s make me feel old..) - I think she could do Ace of Base, don't really know though.
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#455603 - Sun Apr 05 2009 08:05 PM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: guitargoddess]
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I'm not so sure they will use the save on Allison, Ysmay.. ever. I'm thinking Allison just doesn't live up to their idea of an Idol.




I'm afraid you might be right, Choco_nut. Their lack of supporting comments for Allison and the lack of coverage of her interests, etc. that I was noticing before seem to indicate the producers' (and judges') lack of interest in her as a valid candidate for Idol. It's very unfortunate because she is such a great vocalist, but she's going to have to make a move like Kris made last week in order to keep herself in this for a while. Her disconnection from the audience may be what dooms her ultimately unless she takes things in her own hands and makes people notice her. She might even have been trying to do that last week with the outfit - it did get her noticed. But I can't imagine how hard it would be for a 16 year old to try and orchestrate such a move.

So I guess the best I can hope for is that she stays in long enough to get noticed and courted by a more savvy producer. And vote, of course.

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Is Danny really that old? Isn't that verging on too old for the competition? Hmm.. 1980.. maybe something by the Clash?




Eeek - NO! No Clash for Danny, please. He really doesn't have the punk cred for that. Guns of Brixton? Lost In the Supermarket? LOL Not even “Should I Stay Or Should I Go?” It would have to be something off of “London Calling” because that was the one released in 1980. It's too bad Adam isn't from 1980 - he could do something off of “The Wall” by Pink Floyd - it would be theatrical enough for him. Did Queen do something in 1982 (was that the year of "Radio Ga Ga"?).

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Matt - could see doing Foreigner or Tears for Fears, maybe




Were there any Foreigner hits after 1980? I can't remember...

I confess, I’m not really good at picking the songs that people should sing, though, and I don’t have my Billboard hits book handy to figure out what was released on what particular year. Is there a Michael Jackson record from 1986 for Anoop to do ? And I’m pretty sure there might be another Billy Joel song from 1986 for Scott. I expect that Lil will probably pick a Tina Turner from that year, although I don’t think that’s her best choice.

I’m looking forward to finding out what they sing – I just hope they do well with their arrangements. The “year of birth” is usually one of the more unpredictable rounds.

Looking forward to it…

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#455604 - Mon Apr 06 2009 06:05 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: ysmay]
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Is Danny really that old? Isn't that verging on too old for the competition? Hmm.. 1980.. maybe something by the Clash?





He's virtually on a walking frame GG.. God, I feel old now.. "Should I Stay or Should I Go" sounds a good one for Danny.

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Were there any Foreigner hits after 1980? I can't remember...





I've done some research for you Ysmay..

Foreigner:

1980.. None.

1982 Waiting For a Girl Like You, I don't think that would suit Adam though..

1985 I Want To Know What Love Is.

1986 No Michael Jackson.. only Janet Jackson.

MJ's blog has the links to all the top songs for their birth years if you want to check it out. I'll put my picks in another post as this one is getting a bit too long.

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#455605 - Mon Apr 06 2009 07:39 AM Re: "American Idol" - Season 8 *Spoilers* [Re: Choco_nut]
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I'm really looking forward to this week, as I love music from the early 80's!

I'd like to see Adam do "Tainted Love" or "Crimson and Clover" -- but Lord knows that boy can change up anything and will probably totally surprise us, as usual.

I prefer Danny on slower songs that don't involve dancing, so I'd like to see him do something like "Don't Fall In Love With A Dreamer".

And my pick for Kris would be "Never Surrender" by Corey Hart.

I had a much harder time thinking up songs for Anoop, Matt, and Scott. Anoop maybe should go with a ballad -- he seems to get better comments from the judges on those and Usher landed him in the bottom 3. I can't think of anything Matt could do with the piano. "I'm On Fire" might be a good choice for him but it's really a guitar driven song. Or maybe "Sea Of Love". It's difficult for me to pick a song for Scott, as I really don't want to hear him sing anything at all! I'm thinking maybe "Can't Fight This Feeling Anymore".

It was also hard for me to think of good possibilities for Allison since I don't know as much about 90's music. But I'd like to see her do "I Can't Make You Love Me".

Anyway it goes, I think this'll be an interesting week!
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