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#972732 - Sat Mar 16 2013 10:37 AM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: srini701]
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If this is really going to be considered a 'problem', perhaps the easiest thing to do is remove the "of 111000".

Then it'll just read "Rank: 114625". Sorted.
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#972814 - Sun Mar 17 2013 11:11 AM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: srini701]
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I've taken three quizzes over the past day (two older ones and a new one) and they all have that x-axis decimal issue. This was solved about a year ago and now seems to have returned. Did something get undone, a reset to former definitions take place or is it a new problem causing the decimals to appear where whole units are required?
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#972824 - Sun Mar 17 2013 12:54 PM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: guitargoddess]
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Originally Posted By: guitargoddess
If this is really going to be considered a 'problem', perhaps the easiest thing to do is remove the "of 111000".

Then it'll just read "Rank: 114625". Sorted.


I think a rough estimate is good. Someone might think a quiz rated 5,000 was terrible unless they knew that there were over 110,000 quizzes on the site.
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#972870 - Mon Mar 18 2013 05:48 AM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: srini701]
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

All of my quizzes are new now!
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#972871 - Mon Mar 18 2013 06:54 AM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: srini701]
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Today the system ranks quizzes early in the morning. They'll go back to normal.
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#972872 - Mon Mar 18 2013 07:10 AM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: srini701]
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You are quite right smile
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#976280 - Fri Apr 05 2013 08:51 AM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: srini701]
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It's likely this question may have been asked previously, but I would be grateful to know whether or not the difficulty levels of quizzes include the scores of Guest players.

I've noticed on most of my quizzes that a disproportionate number of guest players score 0/10 even on the simpler quizzes, which leads me to believe they don't actually bother playing them.

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#976301 - Fri Apr 05 2013 12:08 PM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: moonraker2]
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Originally Posted By: moonraker2
It's likely this question may have been asked previously, but I would be grateful to know whether or not the difficulty levels of quizzes include the scores of Guest players.


No, only member plays count toward quiz difficulty levels.
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#976354 - Fri Apr 05 2013 03:42 PM Re: Quiz ranking [Re: dg_dave]
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Many thanks, I assumed that would probably be the situation.

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#979855 - Mon Apr 22 2013 06:27 AM Quiz Rating
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I was shocked today that a recently created quiz of mine has a ranking of a lowly 75000 even though it has 71 percent Good and Excellents and a quiz created a few years ago had 70 percent Good and Excellents and had a rating of between 59000 and 60000. What is this anomaly?

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#979858 - Mon Apr 22 2013 06:30 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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It's not an anomaly; you don't have a way of knowing the ratings below those two when they're selected. We also don't know the exact algorithm used to calculate the ratings.
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#979860 - Mon Apr 22 2013 06:39 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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I enjoyed more creating the more recent quiz as I knew very little about the subject but did research on it, but apparently the ratings tell a different story and this event tells me that ratings are very unpredictable.

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#979865 - Mon Apr 22 2013 07:24 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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That they are. wink
Because they're out of the author's control they can seem frustrating but the more you write the more you may find a turn inward-- less of an interest in the ratings and more of an interest in your own opinion of your work. At least that's how I've found it.
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#979899 - Mon Apr 22 2013 09:39 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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Once you get a decent portfolio of quizzes, you'll probably be able to predict a bit better. I can usually estimate at least which 10,000 bracket any given quiz of mine is likely to fall in just based on the limited good & excellent info. Since you can't see the avg/poor/vpoor ratings, it's never going to be an exact science, though. Oh, and even my worst at 106k has 59% positive rating - so there is a trend for people to rate fairly nicely overall which I suppose should be taken into account too. It's all relative. smile

I care about the ratings in as much as it's progress towards that 'orrible Pangalactic challenge, and because it's nice to get positive feedback and acclaim, but the scale is a little arbitrary. It's certainly more the journey of writing them I'll remember in the long run than the outcome of getting an ever-changing rating. smile

Overall, I'd just say that if you enjoyed researching and writing the quiz, that's a good enough reason to keep going. There are little tricks you can use to improve the ratings, should you so wish, though, so keep that in mind. It's clichéd advice, but check out the top-rated quizzes to see how they did it. It's a good starting point from a ratings perspective.

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#996260 - Sat Jul 13 2013 08:38 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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I just played the following quiz "Quiz - British and Irish Lions in Australia, 2013" and someone had spent time and effort to produce this quiz, but I was amazed that out of the 15 plays of this quiz, 9 of which was by FT members only 3 people including myself had bothered to rate this quiz.

I know quiz rating is a personal choice, I for one ALWAYS rate a quiz, one for the extra 20 points and also to let the author know the work was not in vain and what I thought of it.

It takes 5 seconds to rate a quiz.
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#996262 - Sat Jul 13 2013 08:49 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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Keep in mind that quiz numbers are inflated by a factor of three to take into account guest plays and guests can not rate. While not everyone will rate (and no one is obligated to), I like to think that there are a lot of people who do care to. smile
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#996264 - Sat Jul 13 2013 09:19 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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Kyle that's why I broke it down and took into account guest players

15 plays
6 guests
9 FT players

3 ratings

So from that small cross section only 33% rating a quiz

I'm not trying to make a fuss about it just a general observation
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#996265 - Sat Jul 13 2013 09:28 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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I believe non-gold members can't rate after their first 100 quizzes.

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#996287 - Sat Jul 13 2013 10:53 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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(Top quiz site-wide)
3061 plays (after dividing by 3)
1598 ratings
52.2% rated

(Bus ride quiz)
1269 plays (after dividing by 3)
872 ratings
68.71% rated

(One of my quizzes)
698 plays (after dividing by 3)
326 ratings
46.7% rated

With 9 players, the result isn't going to be very accurate. Maybe 1/2 is a bit closer to the average figure than 1/3. Or maybe both of those numbers are way off.

Taking into account non-gold plays and scores under 2 (and re-takes if they count), it's not *that* bad an average.


Edited by AdamM7 (Sat Jul 13 2013 10:54 AM)
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#996290 - Sat Jul 13 2013 11:00 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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I played it, and rated it, so that's two of us.
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#996367 - Sat Jul 13 2013 02:13 PM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: TimBentley]
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Originally Posted By: TimBentley
I believe non-gold members can't rate after their first 100 quizzes.

That's true, Regular Members cannot rate quizzes after the first 100. It's a GM privilege.

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#996379 - Sat Jul 13 2013 05:06 PM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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And AdamM7 also pointed out the scores under 2 - I have taken quizzes that I really enjoyed but on which I did not score high enough to rate, and had to just send a compliment.
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#996443 - Sun Jul 14 2013 11:35 AM Re: Quiz Rating [Re: mask100]
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Well, any compliment is nice, of course.
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