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#510482 - Sat Feb 06 2010 03:07 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: agony]
Mink Offline
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Just had this:

3. Europe
Your answer: dwell

dwell means "think moodily or anxiously about something"

The correct answer was wild strawberry

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#510483 - Sat Feb 06 2010 03:30 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Mink]
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Quote:

Just had this:

3. Europe
Your answer: dwell

dwell means "think moodily or anxiously about something"

The correct answer was wild strawberry




Here are all the choices:

prefer
craps
wild strawberry
saw
dwell
afters

Just to brag, I got it right! I decided to pick the most out-there answer and voila! He he...

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#510484 - Sat Feb 06 2010 04:25 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: twosleepy]
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I had it randomly and changed it!

Oh, and re: the arnica one above - there IS ointment but there's also tablets of arnica for bruises

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#510485 - Sat Feb 06 2010 05:09 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Mink]
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Quote:

2. Bring down with a blow to the legs
Your answer: take

take means "proceed along in a vehicle"

The correct answer was submarine





Quote:

5. Accept or undergo, often unwillingly
Your answer: take




I'm confused...should "take" have two definitions showing up in this game?

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#510486 - Sat Feb 06 2010 05:26 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: darthrevan89]
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Yes, I think more than one definition should be allowed as long as they don't show up on the same question. That way we think about what we're doing instead of mindlessly checking off letter patterns we've memorized.

The more I play this game, the more I like it. I'm almost ready to take off my black mourning veil for the old one's demise.

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#510487 - Sat Feb 06 2010 05:37 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: agony]
Terry Offline

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Or maybe the first few words of the definition are getting cut off? "Woody perennial of Eurasia except southern Russia" would be perfectly fine as a definition, and these would be OK words for the game, then. How is it presented at the source? >>

It's precisely the incomplete definition in the source database too.

A lot of those botanical / biological entries are simply incomplete definitions. I guess they must come from a sub-project where everyone KNEW they were plants.

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#510488 - Sat Feb 06 2010 05:40 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Terry]
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<< I'm confused...should "take" have two definitions showing up in this game? >>

Yes. In fact, some words have up to NINE definitions in the dictionary.

What I really should do if there are enough entries with lots of definitions is make a 3rd hourly game type...

It would present a word, then list 5 definitions. You'd have to pick the one that is NOT a valid definition of the word.

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#510489 - Sat Feb 06 2010 07:46 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Terry]
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Yes, yes!!

"Run" has 30 definitions as a verb, 12 as a noun, and 3 as an adjective, according to Merriam-Webster, and not including phrases, which adds dozens more.

I LOVE ENGLISH!

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#510490 - Sat Feb 06 2010 11:43 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: queproblema]
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This database has 57 entries for "run".

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#510491 - Sun Feb 07 2010 02:27 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Terry]
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12. An abusive attack on a person''s character or good name

Your answer: aspersion

14. Any member of a ship''s crew

Your answer: sailor

More doubled apostrophes.

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#510492 - Sun Feb 07 2010 02:49 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Terry - I found definitions for "wild strawberry" and "wood horsetail' on a site called synonym.com that gave a botanical definition for each followed by the exact wording as quoted as the Word Wizard definition in brackets, presumably showing the range. This suggests a common source for that and this site. It seems that the bits in brackets are being picked up, not the definitions.

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#510493 - Sun Feb 07 2010 05:37 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: bucknallbabe]
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This complaint was received on main site feedback...

On the "Word Wizard" section, it has the question "a person of French descent" followed by the answer "Frog". This is a racist term and needs to be removed! How could you allow this to get approved?
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#510494 - Sun Feb 07 2010 06:32 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: sue943]
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Well who objects to "limey"? I don't.
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#510495 - Sun Feb 07 2010 06:41 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: ren33]
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Quote:

Well who objects to "limey"? I don't.




You beat me to it, Ren, but 'Pommy' must be on here somewhere... I am shocked in advance of finding it!

Actually that database includes words like 'poof' and 'dike' (I've seen both of those already) so if the only word for the French is 'Frog' I think they got off lightly, lol.

(signed)

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#510496 - Sun Feb 07 2010 06:41 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: ren33]
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If we're mentioning all of the double apostrophes...

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13. Sibling

Your answer: a person''s brother or sister

9. Corset

Your answer: a woman''s close-fitting foundation garment

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#510497 - Sun Feb 07 2010 06:52 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: abechstein]
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The French call us rostbif as far as I know, and I don't mind.
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#510498 - Sun Feb 07 2010 10:21 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: sue943]
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Is it helpful to point out the recurring double apostrophes? It seems like I'm getting at least one every round...

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8. Coil

Your answer: a contraceptive device placed inside a woman''s womb

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And, in an incorrect answer:

shop selling women''s hats

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#510499 - Sun Feb 07 2010 10:50 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: abechstein]
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Here's one that's rather out-of-date:

Men

Your answer: the force of workers available

Er, no. That would be "adults."
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#510500 - Sun Feb 07 2010 11:01 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: CellarDoor]
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No, ignore apostrophes. It is simple to fix them all at once.

Removed men, frog, poof, etc.

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#510501 - Sun Feb 07 2010 11:06 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Terry]
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Also did a more general query to remove 30 entries where the definition had to deal with racial slurs or potentially unfriendly nicknames.

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#510502 - Sun Feb 07 2010 05:37 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: Terry]
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5. Street names for ketamine

Your answer: honey oil

At minimum 'names' should be 'name', but other than the usual 8 copycat dictionaries, I find no relationship between ketamine and honey oil. Honey oil is another name for hemp oil or hash oil, not ketamine.

Happy Drug Trivia!
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#510503 - Sun Feb 07 2010 07:05 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Another botanical entry missing at least one word (capitalization errors, too):

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8. Gray_alder

Your answer: native to europe but introduced in america

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#510504 - Mon Feb 08 2010 10:22 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: abechstein]
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9. Partridge

Your answer: valued as a game bird in eastern united states and canada

The 'valued as' while true probably doesn't belong in a definition.


10. Smalleye_hammerhead

Your answer: fished for the hide and vitamin-rich liver

Another typical incomplete animal definition.

Happy WW Trivia!
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#510505 - Mon Feb 08 2010 11:21 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Quote:

5. Street names for ketamine

Your answer: honey oil

At minimum 'names' should be 'name', but other than the usual 8 copycat dictionaries, I find no relationship between ketamine and honey oil. Honey oil is another name for hemp oil or hash oil, not ketamine.

Happy Drug Trivia!



Funny, I decided to pursue that one, too. Here's where they got it (I think..) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/honey+oil

Overall, it's quite obvious that changes have been made that positively affect the game. It seems much more "normal" now, and the ones I'm missing are ones I just don't know, so I'm pretty pleased with it. Just thought I'd toss in a compliment...

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#510506 - Mon Feb 08 2010 11:54 AM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: twosleepy]
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Eurasia except southern Russia
Your answer: buffeting

buffeting means "repeated heavy blows"

The correct answer was wood horsetail

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It's a plant that is *native* to Eurasia except Southern Russia.. could use a little bit more detail there to be less confusing.
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#510507 - Mon Feb 08 2010 12:01 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: twosleepy]
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I looked further also:

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/streetterms/ByAlpha.asp?strTerm=H

I guess that I'm wrong, except for the 'names' part.

My comment on copycat dictionaries refers to these:

Wordnik [www.wordnik.com]
Dictionary.com
Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia
Rhymezone [www.rhymezone.com]
Free Dictionary [www.freedictionary.org]
Mnemonic Dictionary [www.mnemonicdictionary,com]
LookWAYup Translating Dictionary/ Thesaurus [www.lookwayup.com]
Dictionary/thesaurus [www.thefreedictionary.com]

When I check 'word oddities' through www.onelook.com, the above 8 sources tend to all have identical definitions, often flawed in some manner.

Happy WW Trivia!
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#510508 - Mon Feb 08 2010 04:23 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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10. Pooch_out

Your answer: outbuilding that serves as a shelter for a dog

outbuilding that serves as a shelter for a dog is the definition for "kennel"

The correct answer was round one's lips as if intending to kiss

Not an error really, but a somewhat humorous juxtaposition.

Happy WW Trivia!
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#510509 - Mon Feb 08 2010 06:46 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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3. Scrub_typhus

Your answer: transmitted by larval mites and widespread in asia

Another type of incomplete definition. The word 'disease' is perhaps assumed.

Happy WW Trivia!
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#510510 - Mon Feb 08 2010 07:16 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I just had these two entries (ironically enough, right in a row) that I thought might not be appropriate.

Quote:

10. A woman sold into prostitution
Your answer: white slave




Quote:

11. Someone who patronizes prostitutes

The correct answer was wencher



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#510511 - Mon Feb 08 2010 09:06 PM Re: Word Wizard - Content Issues [Re: darthrevan89]
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Just found "blowjob" as an incorrect option.

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