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#637670 - Tue Jun 28 2011 06:27 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: mehaul]
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Originally Posted By: mehaul
I sent an email to the MLB site that is responsible for the lingo list and asked that they include Bingle on the list before the connection to its veracity is lost.


Any reply yet? I would love to know what they say.
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#637676 - Tue Jun 28 2011 08:30 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: ozzz2002]
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I have rec'v'd 3 robot replies saying that my posting is being reviewed. But bear in mind those robots aren't yet from the office that produced the list of jargon.


Edited by mehaul (Tue Jun 28 2011 08:31 PM)
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#637701 - Wed Jun 29 2011 01:43 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: mehaul]
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Was one of the robots named "Marvin"? ~~~~ (sorry, couldn't help myself, had a THHGTTG moment)
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#637924 - Wed Jun 29 2011 10:10 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Jakeroo]
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Let's play "Which of these was actually found in the game?" Any takers?

The opposite of free is blame

You said: convict

free means "let off the hook"
blame means "put or pin the blame on"


The opposite of exculpate is convict

You said: blame

exculpate means "pronounce not guilty of criminal charges"
convict means "find or declare guilty"


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The opposite of free is convict

You said: blame

free means "let off the hook"
convict means "find or declare guilty"


The opposite of exculpate is blame

You said: convict

exculpate means "pronounce not guilty of criminal charges"
blame means "put or pin the blame on"

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#637962 - Thu Jun 30 2011 02:40 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: twosleepy]
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I'm a bit confused as to how the opposite of one word can be the same definition for the opposite word.

The opposite of loud is piano

You said: precision

loud means "used chiefly as a direction or description in music"
piano means "used chiefly as a direction or description in music"

As far as opposite goes, that's like the pot calling a kettle a kettle.

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#637965 - Thu Jun 30 2011 04:19 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: leelee63]
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Piano is the musical direction for 'soft' or 'quiet', which is why it is the opposite to 'loud' in this context.

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#637967 - Thu Jun 30 2011 04:51 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: rossian]
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Those partial definitions that you often find (in Internet dictionaries, and therefore in this game) are not particularly useful. It is a true about each term that it is used in music, but the fact that forte is the term meaning to play loudly and piano the term for playing softly has quite fallen through the cracks.
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#637968 - Thu Jun 30 2011 05:11 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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Someone changed the name of the thread. That's seriously not a good idea, please don't do it - it confuses elderly bunnies no end.

I'm changing it back...
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#638158 - Thu Jun 30 2011 07:47 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Did this change it back? (I called for a reply on J Elston's first posting and edited the topic line to drop the "re:". Who got that changed anyway? Was it an ed merging two threads?)
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#638205 - Thu Jun 30 2011 08:55 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: mehaul]
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Okay, I'm pegging it (the change in titles to Flopsymopsy's changing back of the postings above (GO READ TITLES oops someone just changed them to read RE: Another bad pair :0()There it read post #637924: "Another bad pair :0(" Then Rossian and Looneytunes posts simply read the same until a moment ago when someone made a change to have the subsequents read "Re: Another bad pair :0(.

As I wrote this post, the three suject titles above all read "Another bad pair :0(" and as I went to copy the posting numbers, the titles changed to include a RE:.
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#638213 - Thu Jun 30 2011 09:05 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: mehaul]
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Interesting. I didn't realise you could change the topic title, as I've never tried it and can't imagine why someone would want to.

Then again, I still don't know how the new topics get all those different icons attached to them on the general list (but perhaps that might be partially due to the fact that I've never started a new topic either). ~

All good. I learn something new here every day lol.
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#638330 - Fri Jul 01 2011 10:45 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Jakeroo]
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Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
Interesting. I didn't realise you could change the topic title, as I've never tried it and can't imagine why someone would want to.


And it also states in the FAQ somewhere not to do so as it will confuse people. Even though I've been an FT member for almost 10½ years and in the forums nearly 8, it'd have the chance of confusing me.
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#638339 - Fri Jul 01 2011 12:22 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: dg_dave]
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skeleton is related to lower limit



You said: complex body part

skeleton means "something reduced to its minimal form"
lower limit means "the smallest possible quantity"


I'm no expert on human biology, but a skeleton is a complex body part to me.

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#638341 - Fri Jul 01 2011 12:27 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: AntonLaVey]
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I agree, Anton, but in Mind Melt it always depends what the other option was that went with "complex body part". If it couldn't mean "lower limit" then you know that's what you must match skeleton with so that everything has a match.
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#638358 - Fri Jul 01 2011 01:07 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: reeshy]
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Gyrus was the correct answer for complex body part. I had never heard of a gyrus before, and I didn't put gyrus for lower limit. I got three wrong. I wish I could remember what other word I missed right about now.

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#638482 - Sat Jul 02 2011 06:50 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: AntonLaVey]
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This combination is certainly correct, but interchangeable.

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psychomotor development is related to ontogenesis

You said: growing

psychomotor development means "progressive acquisition of skills involving both mental and motor activities"
ontogenesis means "(biology) the process of an individual organism growing organically"


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cytogeny is related to growing

You said: ontogenesis

cytogeny means "the origin and development and variation of cells"
growing means "(biology) the process of an individual organism growing organically"


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As the definitions given for "growing" and for "ontogenesis" are exactly identical, I feel my choice is defendable, too.
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#638534 - Sat Jul 02 2011 10:47 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JanIQ]
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I'd say you have a good argument there! smilee

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#638603 - Sat Jul 02 2011 11:01 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: ArlingtonVA]
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I also made the "mistake" re: ontogenesis and growing. Seems like it should be possible to program the game so it can't use two words in the same set where the definitions are exactly identical. (However, considering I'm far from a computer programmer, I'm very prepared to be wrong about that.)

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#638791 - Mon Jul 04 2011 10:01 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: AntonLaVey]
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Okay, I just saw what a furor I touched off by daring to put in my own subject. Who knew? I had no idea this was against some rule, and can't figure out why it's a big deal, anyway. The topic title wasn't changed, just the subject of my post. Well, needless to say, I won't do THAT again. Am I now a pariah, banned from the board? If not, I'd like some feedback on the pairs I posted. If so, let me know so I can slink away...

PS I scoured the topics and threads looking for aforementioned rules. I could not find anything about post subject titles. I am eager to find the rules so that I do not continue to commit heinous acts unwittingly. Thank you for any guidance on that.


Edited by twosleepy (Mon Jul 04 2011 10:18 AM)

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#638795 - Mon Jul 04 2011 10:30 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: twosleepy]
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The way messageboards work is that if you are replying to something in an existing thread, changing the name of your reply does alter the overall title of the thread - and if everyone did that, pretty soon no one would know which topic was what. That's why the thread title is automatically included in the subject line for replies and why changing thread titles isn't done - but it was easy enough to spot and change back. No one died so please save your pariah outfit for another time. smile And no one was holding you responsible for what happened next...

As for your original question... pass, lol.
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#638805 - Mon Jul 04 2011 12:02 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: flopsymopsy]
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Could you repost the query, twosleepy? I'm not saying I'll know how to answer, but it will make it easy for people to see the question without having to scroll back and search for the pairs.
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#638844 - Mon Jul 04 2011 06:15 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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I think this is most likely the one he/she meant...

Originally Posted By: twosleepy
Let's play "Which of these was actually found in the game?" Any takers?

The opposite of free is blame

You said: convict

free means "let off the hook"
blame means "put or pin the blame on"


The opposite of exculpate is convict

You said: blame

exculpate means "pronounce not guilty of criminal charges"
convict means "find or declare guilty"


~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

The opposite of free is convict

You said: blame

free means "let off the hook"
convict means "find or declare guilty"


The opposite of exculpate is blame

You said: convict

exculpate means "pronounce not guilty of criminal charges"
blame means "put or pin the blame on"
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#638848 - Mon Jul 04 2011 06:33 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Jakeroo]
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Thanks for reproducing this, Jakeroo.

I'm stumped because it looks like you've drawn up two scenarios, only one of which is real. I can say that I've felt like things were wrongly matched in this game in the past, and often it is a matter of nuance. I personally prefer the second option:

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The opposite of free is convict

You said: blame

free means "let off the hook"
convict means "find or declare guilty"


The opposite of exculpate is blame

You said: convict

exculpate means "pronounce not guilty of criminal charges"
blame means "put or pin the blame on"

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I don't have any intelligent or elegant way of explaining why this feels more correct to me though...

Sue


Edited by shuehorn (Mon Jul 04 2011 06:34 PM)
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#638852 - Mon Jul 04 2011 07:17 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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I think I would have paired them the other way, as exculpate and convict feel like more formal terms than free and blame (which, by the way, has a dreadful definition provided!).
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#638918 - Tue Jul 05 2011 07:01 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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I agree with Looney - not only are "free" and "blame" less formal, but to me at least they seem much more general, whereas "exculpate" and "convict" are not (usually) used much outside talking about a criminal.
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#639000 - Tue Jul 05 2011 12:41 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: reeshy]
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Well, you've convinced me reeshy and looney! Can twosleepy now clarify which one was really in the game?
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#639730 - Sat Jul 09 2011 10:49 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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"renegue on" appeared in the third section of my game today. That U does not belong there; the right spelling is "renege."
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#639903 - Sun Jul 10 2011 02:00 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: CellarDoor]
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In today's set 22, I had

alarum means "an automatic signal (usually a sound) warning of danger"

It's supposed to be "alarm".

EDIT: Never mind - I've looked it up and my dictionary lists it as an archaic spelling! You learn something new every day, they say. smile


Edited by reeshy (Sun Jul 10 2011 02:01 PM)
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#639907 - Sun Jul 10 2011 03:28 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: reeshy]
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While "renegue" may also be an "archaic" spelling (in that you don't see it much anymore), it is indeed a valid word (although I'm certain it doesn't appear in an American dictionary). You will find it in Collins, as well as other non-U.S. (hardcopy) publications.

In any case, until FT compiles its OWN dictionary, I don't really see the point in reporting "errors" of this sort. As far as I can tell, FT is accessing one or more online dictionaries (which are FULL of typos). If FT ever DOES make one with no errors, Terry should seriously think about selling it to all those sites out there that refuse to correct their own mistakes LOL.


Edited by Jakeroo (Sun Jul 10 2011 03:38 PM)
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#640169 - Tue Jul 12 2011 04:01 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Jakeroo]
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Quote:
dust wrapper is related to promotion

dust wrapper means "a paper jacket for a book"

promotion means "a message issued in behalf of some product or cause or idea or person or institution"

I managed to get this one right, but only because they were the only two left. Not sure how one relates to the other, though.
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