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#575202 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:00 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Upon further consideration, I have changed "Master Champion" from level 150 requirement to level 125.

Scoring monthly badges in 7 games is impressive enough -- this award doesn't need the extra challenge of 150. I think 125 is a lot more reasonable.


Cool, timed it right to be the first one. Though you could have left the level at, say, 145. ;-)

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#575203 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:01 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: mike32768]
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Or... maybe not. :-(

It said I won it, but no badge were awarded.

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#575205 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:05 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: mike32768]
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Darn. I was looking forward to earning that many champ badges, then being one of the first to cross 150 to earn it. But now that's it's at 125, I can't get it yet, as I only have 3 champs divisions. Haha. Oh well, gives me something more to shoot for. Haha.
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#575212 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:13 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: salami_swami]
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Several issues.

1) got the email indicating I'd won the badge (OK)
2) points until next level indication at top right shows correct "next" level (OK)
but...
3) challenge page shows "Complete! Challenge finished and mini-badge awarded!" but it appears it's supposed to NOT be a "mini"
4) Check mark missing in menu on left side
5) No badge on profile
6) No credit to anyone on the badge page: http://www.funtrivia.com/badge_winners.cfm?bid=412

edit:
7) badge icon in email shows "150"


Edited by mike32768 (Fri Dec 10 2010 05:34 PM)

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#575220 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:21 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: mike32768]
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Why isn't Who Am I? credited towards the Master Champion badge and Who's The Expert is? Shouldn't it be the other way around when all you have to in Expert is win one little topic?

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#575222 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:29 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: AntonLaVey]
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Apologies if I'm being dense, but I have a question about the Master Champion challenge. It shows as a non-gold badge, but since Who Am I? isn't being counted I only see 6 other non-gold games with a champions division. What am I missing? confused

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#575224 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:41 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: darthrevan89]
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Partially fixed, but it may have awarded a couple of badges based on incorrect reqs.

Will go through it all in a couple of hrs, gotta run right now.

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#575228 - Fri Dec 10 2010 05:48 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Looks like it is (mostly) cleared up. (Had to do a hard refresh to load the new graphic)

Thanks!

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#575264 - Fri Dec 10 2010 06:47 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: mike32768]
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I have credit for Obscure, but not for Gold Member? I have fully completed them both.
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#575279 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:13 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: postcards2go]
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The problem is that the badge is counting stuff that shouldn't be. In fact, I'm confused myself as to what it should be counting.

It should be including the games with Champion Divisions.

Those are:

Mixed Game
Who's Smartest
Easy Game
Word Wizard
Fill Me In
Who am I

"Obscurity" and "Who's the Expert" are not champion divisions and do not count.

Therefore this badge should only count the 6 above.... correct?

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#575286 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:22 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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I think that's right.

Expert has a Champion's Division but that doesn't count because it's done by category.
GM Madness and Obscurity both have Monthly badges but no Champions Division.

Which leaves the ones you've listed.
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#575288 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:23 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Technically, you could say Obscure doesn't have a Champs division. It's all thrown together, and there isn't a separation between winners and non-winners of the Obscure monthly badge. It does have an ELO page, via the link on the game page. WAI has a Champs division, but it's a daily, not an hourly. Expert has a Champs division. Much of this has to do with what is the definition of a Champs division. GMM doesn't have a Champ division, but it has a monthly badge. An idea might be to go by how many mothly badges somebody has. There are 9 I believe. WTS, Mixed, Speed Demon, (I hate the P of C name) GMM, Obscure, WW, WAI, Melt, and of course my fave--FMI. Then again, that could be different badge or badgelet.


Edited by cubswin2323 (Fri Dec 10 2010 08:35 PM)
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#575294 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:29 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: cubswin2323]
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"There is a Champs division in Obscure"

No -- every player gets an ELO in obscure. Clearly it has nothing to do with champions.

Ditto Expert, where all you need is a single victory to get an ELO. Completely different animal than the "Big 6".

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#575299 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:34 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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It does however leave Who Am I? which I had forgotten earlier. This one has been a bit anomalous since it went from hourly to daily... it has sets for champions but no ELO.
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#575300 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:34 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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( And yes, I'm unfortunately going to have to roll back those badges awarded in that hour window that it was open... it was awarding them based on bad data... )

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#575305 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:39 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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I was editing my original response while you replied Terry. I realized there wasn't a champs division in Obscure, just an ELO because there was no separate division for monthly badge winners. If you could, please re-read. Thanks.
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#575307 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:48 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Originally Posted By: Terry
( And yes, I'm unfortunately going to have to roll back those badges awarded in that hour window that it was open... it was awarding them based on bad data... )


Are you awarding them now only to people who have all six? Or five out of six? I have all of them so it makes no difference to me... phew!
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#575308 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:54 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: cubswin2323]
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Maybe for simplicity sake we drop the "champion" stuff entirely and change it to consider monthly badges.

To allow non GMs, we exclude the gold GM games and make it:

Monthly Winner: Fill Me In
Monthly Winner: Mind Melt
Monthly Winner: Word Wizard
Monthly Winner: Who Am I?
Monthly Winner: Hard Game
Monthly Winner: Mixed Game
Monthly Winner: Easy Game

So we're back to 7 badges.

I like that a lot better, it's much cleaner.

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#575309 - Fri Dec 10 2010 08:55 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Edit to add:

And we'd make the requirement to be 6 of those 7, to give people the chance to ignore one game they particularly hate.


Edited by Terry (Fri Dec 10 2010 08:56 PM)

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#575313 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:01 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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On that basis I think that only one person who got the Master Champion's badge earlier would be affected, all the others have enough monthlies to count. Not sure how you feel about leaving badges with people who got them by mistake but no fault of their own... but it is Christmas. smile
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#575316 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:13 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: flopsymopsy]
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If we bumped it up to requiring all 7, would everyone -1 person currently with it still comply with the requirement?

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#575317 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:17 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: salami_swami]
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Hmm it looks like a few get tripped up on not having Mind Melt.

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#575319 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:22 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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No, I'll keep it 6 of 7.

ssabreman and cubswin are the only ones short.

I'll leave things as they are if you two promise to earn 1 more monthly in the new year!

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#575320 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:33 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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I just tried to claim the badge, but the page is telling me I don't have the monthly badge for Who Am I? or Mind Melt, both of which I do have...

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#575322 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:35 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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I despise Mind Melt. The game would be greatly improved if the last 10 ?'s would be cut. A 20 question game of 10 syn.and 10 ant. would be a good game. There is already a monthly vocab game anyway. Word Wizard. The site is already on the arty side anyway.

I believe hourlies should be limited at 10 ?'s and dailies limited to 15. I would agree with keeping KO at 20 though. That's head-to-head.

I wouldn't mind a badge or badgelet for WTS division winners in a certain number of different categories. We have Movies, TV, Humanities, Animals, Religion, Sports, World, General, People, Sci & Tech, Music, Hobbies, Geography, History, and Lit. It's one thing to have good average score in WTS or to have a nice ELO. It's quite another to win a division in multiple categories in WTS. It's a real test to a person's ELO rating to try and win a category that may not be a person's specialty. Maybe we could call it the Da Vinci Badge/Badgelet or something.


Edited by cubswin2323 (Fri Dec 10 2010 10:16 PM)
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#575323 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:38 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: cubswin2323]
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No problems now -- thanks, Terry!

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#575324 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:38 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: cubswin2323]
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The badge will be a nice New Years Day gift. If I hadn't have missed playing a WAI day, I would have had it last month. It's been a thorn in my side for a while now. As long as I don't skip a day, I should get it.
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#575325 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:39 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: cubswin2323]
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Actually while you were typing that, I've come up with the solution to all our problems.

The requirements. The FINAL requirements are:

"Own any 7 monthly badges." (of the 9 available, including GM monthlies)

This:
a) fits those who have had it awarded so far
b) gives some flexibility
c) makes it a little tougher -- 6 was a little light wink
d) makes it POSSIBLE for non GMs, but more flexible for GMs, which fits into our model nicely.

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#575327 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:46 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Ok, level 125's "Legendary Champion" has been fixed and is open for business.

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#575333 - Fri Dec 10 2010 09:53 PM Re: Added lev 100 mini-badge: The Centurion Champs [Re: Terry]
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Upon further consideration, I have changed "Master Champion" from level 150 requirement to level 125.

Scoring monthly badges in 7 games is impressive enough -- this award doesn't need the extra challenge of 150. I think 125 is a lot more reasonable.


Well, okay. Yay! I won the badge. Thank you.

For the record, I wasn't trying to lobby to influence the rules to my advantage with the monthly badge wrinkle. It's just that the Champs division definition was a little murky. I was more than willing to wait until after the getting the WAI monthly first. I appreciate the badge though.
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