#580880 - Wed Dec 29 2010 08:48 AM
Team of the Year
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Guruoftrivia's team description (Time Mag calls WMN team of the year) made me recall that a few months ago there was a listing of monthly success for teams. That is a complicated calculation to perform each month (Thank you Wesley Crusher for that highlight of the year!).
This being Countdown time in many venues of human effort and calibration of that effort by various industries, I think that calculation should at least be done once per year for trivia team performance and awards given in a countdown style to the top three teams of 2010. Then an appropriate tag could be added to the team description page. This probably would have the most chance of materializing if the team leaders took on the cause.
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#580899 - Wed Dec 29 2010 10:31 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: mehaul]
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Making that calculation would of course require saved copies of all team result pages for 2010. Don't know if anyone has a full set of those. I definitely don't. Here's the results from November, however. As last time, only teams with a score in at least five of the ten games were counted (so if you are missing yours, play more games!). Happy number crunching!
1. Revenge of the Llamas 1000.00
2. classicalmusic/mensan 997.50
3. Joliettes 990.28
4. The Devil's Advocates 967.50
5. We Forgot Our Name 957.78
6. Animal Farm 957.66
7. IncredibleCasuals 954.61
8. Funsters 949.36
9. Dynasty Dominators of Death 948.70
10. The Regal Beagles 945.53
11. Phoenix Rising 917.12
12. The Moops 911.37
13. The Refugees 909.37
14. The Scrambled Eggheads 908.22
15. Swimming With Pilchards 904.11
16. 50+ And Proud Of It 894.93
17. Raised in the Sixties 890.83
18. Pearls Before Swine 884.33
19. Worldwide Wizards 882.80
20. Heaven's Angels 869.56
21. Rock the Clock 860.64
22. The Cat People 858.94
23. Recycled Virgins 856.38
24. The Bees Knees 851.21
25. The New England Alliance 849.27
26. The Lost Connection 820.12
27. Trivia Bubbles 817.79
28. Kindred Spirits 804.17
29. Jokers Wild 801.76
30. Snape's Select 797.74
31. The Chain Gang 796.82
32. The Titans 794.15
33. Trivia For Adults 790.90
34. Bikers 787.51
35. The Palmetto Players 787.25
36. les escargots 786.30
37. The Wild Mutant Noggins 780.15
38. TEAM B.C. 776.75
39. The Avant-GardZ 774.87
40. The Flakes 768.06
41. League of Nations 764.19
42. Poetic license 754.42
43. Music Moguls 743.71
44. The Sizziloons 730.98
45. Comedy of Errors 723.11
46. Friends of Jesus 712.46
47. DC Team 710.85
48. Knowledge Is A Beautiful Thing 708.85
49. Midwest USA Players 703.33
50. European Players 703.03
51. Renaissance Rebels 694.55
52. dogpark 692.44
53. The Sport Fanatics 686.14
54. X-Filers 683.22
55. Chill Inn 681.99
56. Quiz Makers Guild 676.52
57. The Devious Demons 675.83
58. The English Are Coming 675.17
59. Indian Gang 669.20
60. Adz Mates 662.01
61. Hoi Polloi 661.25
62. Vegemite Sandwich 657.17
63. Washingtons greatest 653.03
64. Kentucky Reign 642.64
65. Yes, We're Babes! 641.94
66. I’ll Take Potpourri for $100, 640.59
67. Calculators 639.62
68. Canadian Players 638.06
69. NHL Hockey Fans 636.20
70. THE CONSERVATIVES 632.35
71. X Squad 630.38
72. Dream Weavers 629.62
73. Yo' Mammas 614.58
74. Scotland the Brains 611.21
75. South African players 609.92
76. The Sleuths of Truth 606.90
77. The Homo Sapiens 602.71
78. Upstate New Yorkers 596.73
79. The Super Peepz 577.45
80. Movie Buffs 570.61
81. Golden Horde 567.63
82. The CBBers 565.59
83. Terra Nova 550.18
84. The Legends 549.66
85. Laid Back Larrikins 545.91
86. Canberrans 544.30
87. Mensa 542.47
88. Triviamanic 542.20
89. NASCAR FANS R #1 535.13
90. BP's Lounge(THE WOOD) 520.72
91. English group 517.35
92. Thunder Chicken 515.96
93. Aussies 515.38
94. All 50 States 506.82
95. SVU, Bones, NCIS, CSI: Miami 506.59
96. Retired And Loving It 500.53
97. Team Pizzazz 495.87
98. Music Madness 491.40
99. Bible Believers Brigade 474.77
100. USA East Coast Players 474.70
101. The British 459.17
102. Romania Team 454.44
103. The Europeans. 453.42
104. The Beatles Team 453.32
105. Trivia Garden 440.15
106. Just Wanna Have Bum 439.30
107. Bondoola's Buddies 435.67
108. Montana Maniacs 423.08
109. Ultimate Opportunists 415.83
110. New Zealanders 411.67
111. Country Living 408.86
112. Australian Players 406.39
113. Fun Trivia Group 401.97
114. USS Enterprise 400.68
115. Southern Smarts 396.61
116. The Mermbuts 396.54
117. Insomniacs Trivia 390.07
118. double team 382.50
119. The Dog People 376.14
120. Almost Angels 351.52
121. Jane Austen Lovers 350.88
122. Bawdytalkers 341.86
123. Triviabiz 335.33
124. Atheist Quizzers 330.91
125. Everything! 326.02
126. Browncoats 320.17
127. The Purple People 318.91
128. Texans 312.90
129. The Meek Shall Inherit 307.95
130. OSU Beaver Nation 304.69
131. Indians Inc. 302.94
132. The Californians 298.50
133. Friendly Foreigners 290.38
134. Totally Trivia 277.50
135. Slow and Steady 277.20
136. Wild Wolves 268.89
137. Mighty Warriors 266.21
138. billy no mates! 261.23
139. Group for Noobs 257.14
140. USA West Coast 254.55
141. Tangled Up In Blue 253.16
142. myth_lovers 245.32
143. Pinoy's World 243.42
144. Liver Damage 242.93
145. Purple Ninjas 230.22
146. Digital Spy 226.73
147. The Lizards 222.80
148. The Misplaced 211.96
149. Mr. Puttz 189.83
150. Ebooksshares The Bookworms Tea 179.93
151. WWE Champions Team 179.02
152. The Trivia Knights 176.69
153. The Great Outdoors 171.49
154. Port Vale 170.27
155. Sports Lovers 160.68
156. Stay at Home Moms & Dads 158.23
157. Trivially Challenged 133.64
158. Heroes of Quizzyland 128.88
159. Harry Potter Fans 121.67
160. The Borg Ultimatum 88.98
161. BANDA 84.24
162. Born In The 80s and 90s 73.49
163. The Men From Nantucket 72.83
164. Trivia Geeks 61.36
165. Gamers 59.09
166. TV Watchers Anonymous 38.64
The Llamas take this round with a perfect 1,000 points.
Edited by WesleyCrusher (Wed Dec 29 2010 11:03 AM)
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#580925 - Wed Dec 29 2010 12:35 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: kyleisalive]
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Thanks for the crunching workout Wesley.
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#581463 - Thu Dec 30 2010 08:01 PM
Re: Team of the Year
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#581546 - Fri Dec 31 2010 06:48 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: mehaul]
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I tried to post this list on my team's message board, and there must be some combination of characters or words that is not allowed, because I kept getting an error message. I ended up posting a link to this thread instead.
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#581591 - Fri Dec 31 2010 08:15 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: shuehorn]
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Reading half the list shows a Yo and an isolated R which I don't think pass muster in the other blog rules. You would know if the Yo was good or not. But the R in the NASCAR team name probably is the blocker. Try deleting that R and see if you can post. For my team I just posted the top forty and they copied fine. That would be another option: Just copy up to your team's rank.
Edited by mehaul (Fri Dec 31 2010 08:20 AM)
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#581673 - Fri Dec 31 2010 09:58 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: Jennings]
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Jennings, the scores use the teams' placings on the last month result page. For each game, I am taking the listed number of teams (separate for each league, if the game separates them) and then expressing the result as a percentile. So if I take the first two results from the Cat People: Heroes: 3rd out of 44 = 95.45% Team v team: 23rd out of 120 = 81.67% ...and so on. For small teams, this is slightly more complicated as the different games have different numbers of participants, but Terry uses a single number as the "out of", yielding some results such as 235th out of 160 (which would give a negative number). I am using the actual maximum number present in each column as the last place for them to ensure meaningful results. A team having no score in any column at all gets a 0 for that game. Once I have all these, it's only a matter of adding up the ten partial scores. Since they're all on a 0 to 100 scale, I don't need to do any more weighting or such, just add them up and presto. Final score on a scale of 0 to 1000. (The reason I omit teams with less than 5 games played is that such scores usually result from one member playing a just few games on one day and getting a top 200 score and I just don't want to embarrass anyone with a score of 0.74 out of 1000  )
Edited by WesleyCrusher (Fri Dec 31 2010 10:00 AM)
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#581839 - Fri Dec 31 2010 01:12 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: mehaul]
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mehaul wrote: "Reading half the list shows a Yo and an isolated R which I don't think pass muster in the other blog rules. You would know if the Yo was good or not. But the R in the NASCAR team name probably is the blocker. Try deleting that R and see if you can post. For my team I just posted the top forty and they copied fine. That would be another option: Just copy up to your team's rank."
Yes, I would know if the Yo works, because it is part of the name of my team! I will give it a try. It may also be that the whole post was too long, which some others have reported on another thread.
Thanks for looking into this!
Sue
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#581847 - Fri Dec 31 2010 01:24 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: shuehorn]
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Well, I tried divvying up the list into three parts, and I replaced Yo with Your and the R with ARE, but no dice. There must be some other illegal items that I am just not seeing. The link to the list will have to do.
Thanks, mehaul, for the suggestions.
Thanks, Wesley, for putting it together. I think that this type of stat will help my team stay more active.
Sue
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#581855 - Fri Dec 31 2010 02:09 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: shuehorn]
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I copied the list up to #73. Tried posting it on my team's threads. At first I got a 'could not do' Explorer message but when I hit refresh it loaded the list up to entry # 47. So for you to show the list up to # 80 (or beyond) it would seem best to do it in groups of 40. I went back and loaded, no problem Yo'-wize or limit-wise posting the #45-80. So you could post it in those smaller groups. Or use the PM system to spam a few of your teammates with the list if they aren't into the forums.
In the PM system I was able to get up to your team transmitted.
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#582057 - Sat Jan 01 2011 05:03 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: Emma058]
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I am the best free agent. Period. #1 WTS, #1P o C, # 1 FMI! NO HOME! WTF? Come and get me! I am THE best free agent on FT! I will NOT go to a team to be a star, I will bring my star with me!
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#582115 - Sat Jan 01 2011 09:53 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: cubswin2323]
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Dibs!
Edit to call it twice. DIBS again!
Edited by mehaul (Sat Jan 01 2011 10:24 AM)
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#582119 - Sat Jan 01 2011 10:01 AM
Re: Team of the Year
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I am the best free agent. Period. #1 WTS, #1P o C, # 1 FMI! NO HOME! WTF? Come and get me! I am THE best free agent on FT! I will NOT go to a team to be a star, I will bring my star with me! Rofl...are you serious?
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#582125 - Sat Jan 01 2011 10:29 AM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: cubswin2323]
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I am the best free agent. Period. #1 WTS, #1P o C, # 1 FMI! NO HOME! WTF? Come and get me! I am THE best free agent on FT! I will NOT go to a team to be a star, I will bring my star with me! Obviously, his modesty does not need to be mentioned. 
Edited by bubblesfun (Sat Jan 01 2011 10:31 AM)
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#582174 - Sat Jan 01 2011 12:07 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: PDAZ]
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Definitely. Levels and ranks aren't everything - hell I consider him to be a far superior player than myself.
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#582175 - Sat Jan 01 2011 12:11 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: Prison]
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I think it is hard to judge because there are some amazing players who primarily play quizzes, team games and other games that I never play. With Strnog1, I only see him in Knockout, that I have noticed, and he is pretty amazing there. On the other hand, I can be great at FMI yet I am an atrocious Piece of Cake player. Just horrible. I got that badge and stopped playing completely, phew. So, I don't know how you can compare players with the amount of variation in the skills needed for the different games.
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#582176 - Sat Jan 01 2011 12:29 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: bubblesfun]
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I think it is hard to judge because there are some amazing players who primarily play quizzes, team games and other games that I never play. With Strnog1, I only see him in Knockout, that I have noticed, and he is pretty amazing there. On the other hand, I can be great at FMI yet I am an atrocious Piece of Cake player. Just horrible. I got that badge and stopped playing completely, phew. So, I don't know how you can compare players with the amount of variation in the skills needed for the different games. Because I've already seen what strnog can do when he plays the other games. Take a look at his accomplishments. 243 Expert Titles (and he never googled), dominant in Global Challenge (I believe he was the first to have both the HC and Immortal badges) and Daily Game (back when he was able to commit more to FT), just awesome in the WTS/Mixed/etc...he's less active now and isn't able to play as much.
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#582179 - Sat Jan 01 2011 12:42 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: Prison]
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But based on that criteria, I would rate you higher in a shorter period of time. And, again, there are incredible players that may not be as speedy, so stick more to quizzes and less time concerned games. Then there are those that have created thousands of quizzes which takes a whole other level of talent. I am not saying that Strnog isn't fantastic, his stats show otherwise. However, it depends on what criteria you use for ranking. It is one of the great things about this site is that there are few players that seem to dominate every section, especially when you add in the quiz and authoring elements. The only thing I don't understand is how in a tie for the monthly ranking spot, number of games played outweighs scoring percentage. That just seems off to me.
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#582184 - Sat Jan 01 2011 01:15 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: bubblesfun]
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But based on that criteria, I would rate you higher in a shorter period of time. And, again, there are incredible players that may not be as speedy, so stick more to quizzes and less time concerned games. Then there are those that have created thousands of quizzes which takes a whole other level of talent. I am not saying that Strnog isn't fantastic, his stats show otherwise. However, it depends on what criteria you use for ranking. It is one of the great things about this site is that there are few players that seem to dominate every section, especially when you add in the quiz and authoring elements. The only thing I don't understand is how in a tie for the monthly ranking spot, number of games played outweighs scoring percentage. That just seems off to me. I know that there are far more aspects of this site than just the competitive games but I was only considering those games as criteria (for this comparison anyway). He consistently outplayed me for a long time and he could probably still do so now. He could probably be 15-20 levels higher if he was more motivated to actually chase badges and write quizzes. I agree with you about # of games inexplicably beating scoring average. Anyone can play tons and tons of games, but it takes far more skill to do well in them. That's why I think the +100 bonus for finishing in the top 10 in the Easy Game should be reinstated. Last month, miffy42 somehow had a lower average than cubswin even though miffy had so many more top 10 finishes and was far faster on a more consistent basis. Adding the top 10 +100 bonus into the average would be more indicative of speed.
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#582191 - Sat Jan 01 2011 01:54 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: Prison]
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Registered: Sat May 03 2008
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I agree with you about # of games inexplicably beating scoring average. Anyone can play tons and tons of games, but it takes far more skill to do well in them. That's why I think the +100 bonus for finishing in the top 10 in the Easy Game should be reinstated. Last month, miffy42 somehow had a lower average than cubswin even though miffy had so many more top 10 finishes and was far faster on a more consistent basis. Adding the top 10 +100 bonus into the average would be more indicative of speed.
It got taken away? Well, that explains why I wasn't in the standings in December. I knew I had played about the same number of games I usually do, except for the month I got my monthly. All I do is finish top 10 in the easy game unless I screw up and go too fast. Oh well. I can live with me not being in standings. As far as the best free agent goes? Prison is right. Strnog1 is, by far, the best out there. That guy is amazing, and the best part about him? He doesn't need to Google to keep up with the other players in the timed games like some other players around here do.
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#582192 - Sat Jan 01 2011 02:00 PM
Re: Team of the Year
[Re: AntonLaVey]
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I remember trying to get Strnog to join my team back when it was in it's infancy.
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#582545 - Sun Jan 02 2011 11:51 AM
Re: Team of the Year
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Whoa! May not be a change in the top 5, but we (The Chain Gang) skyrocketed from the 30s to 7th!
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