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#634651 - Thu Jun 16 2011 11:06 PM Results & Standings .. Copa America
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Copa America 2011

The 2011 "Campeonato Sudamericano Copa América", better known as the 2011 Copa America, the main international football tournament for national teams in South America will be held in Argentina from July 1 to July 24, 2011. The defending champion is Brazil. Costa Rica and Mexico join the 10 South American nations to make it a 12-team affair this time.

Matches will be held in league stage followed by knockout from the quarters. We can have a comp covering all the matches (you have to be ready to drop in at short notice for the last rounds, since there won't be much time between putting up rounds after the league stage).

srini701, LeoDaVinci and KrivoyRog finished on the podium in the inaugural Copa America tipping comp here in 2007. Anybody interested in dislodging them from their places? Sign up here, so I know we can actually have a comp...

Editing to add tie-break rules for comp:

In case people finish equal on points, they will be separated in the following order:

1. Hof vs Spoon differential
2. If still equal, person with more HoFs is placed higher
3. If still equal, person with more number of right tips (without bonus points) is placed higher
4. IF STILL EQUAL (highly unlikely ;)) I will place them on equal ranking on table and if they are on podium places, plead and convince gtho4 to award them both the podium grin


Edited by gtho4 (Tue Jul 12 2011 03:54 AM)

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#634652 - Thu Jun 16 2011 11:15 PM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: srini701]
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Zonal Rankings of teams taking part in Copa America (world rankings in brackets)
1 Brazil (3)
2 Argentina (5)
3 Uruguay (7)
4 Chile (13)
5 Paraguay (23)
6 Colombia (50)
7 Peru (54)
8 Ecuador (64)
9 Venezuela (68)
10 Bolivia (102)
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Mexico (28)
Costa Rica (56)

Opening Odds to win the tournament (according to one of many bookmakers)

Argentina 2.20
Brazil 2.75
Uruguay 9.00
Chile 13.00
Mexico 17.00
Paraguay 19.00
Colombia 21.00
Costa Rica 34.00
Ecuador 41.00
Venezuela 81.00
Bolivia 67.00
Peru 101.00


Edited by srini701 (Thu Jun 16 2011 11:15 PM)
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#634661 - Fri Jun 17 2011 01:21 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: srini701]
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I'm in, and I just bet my house on Venezuela.
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#634676 - Fri Jun 17 2011 05:32 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: ozzz2002]
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I'll try to participate. I'm going to be away from computer access for most of July and August.

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#634677 - Fri Jun 17 2011 06:05 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: George95]
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Yes I'll give it a go
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#634710 - Fri Jun 17 2011 10:02 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: paper_aero]
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Ozzz- The Venezuelans don't have a clue what a football looks like, so I hope you have a comfortable tent smilee.

At the same time I might as well give it a go.

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#634718 - Fri Jun 17 2011 11:42 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: szabs]
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I'll take part smile
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#634843 - Fri Jun 17 2011 07:34 PM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: rxbigdawg]
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I'll have a go
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#634862 - Sat Jun 18 2011 03:00 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: N-Bomb]
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Golgolgolgolgolgoooooooool. That means I'm in too.

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#634863 - Sat Jun 18 2011 04:05 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: szabs]
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Originally Posted By: szabs
Ozzz- The Venezuelans don't have a clue what a football looks like, so I hope you have a comfortable tent smilee.


I just like the way that the phrase 'venezuelan vuvuzela' runs together .. smile
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#634866 - Sat Jun 18 2011 05:01 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: ozzz2002]
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I'll give it a try

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#635926 - Wed Jun 22 2011 01:15 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: BxBarracuda]
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I don't know much about football, but that's not necessarily a problem. I quite like wooden spoons, so count me in.
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#635928 - Wed Jun 22 2011 01:22 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: rossian]
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I lost my nerve! There was no way that I could pick Venezuela over Brazil. smile
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#636185 - Thu Jun 23 2011 04:57 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: ozzz2002]
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Awww Ozzz, I had packed the vuvuzela ready to send to you, for that you could cheer the Venezuelans with a vuvuzela. I expect Brazil 5 - 0 Venezuela laugh

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#636188 - Thu Jun 23 2011 04:59 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: szabs]
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Is that a half time score, or the final result? smile

Now if Venezuela was playing someone a bit easier, such as Oman, or Nauru, or even Suriname I might stick my neck out...
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#637304 - Sun Jun 26 2011 08:53 PM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: ozzz2002]
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yep,
add one more to the list

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#637800 - Wed Jun 29 2011 10:58 AM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: gtho4]
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I'll have a go as well.
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#638815 - Mon Jul 04 2011 02:56 PM Re: Copa America 2011... sign up sheet [Re: toocool4u]
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I am completely flabergasted to say the least!!!, Brazil-Venezuela nil / nil, something is definately wrong down there. I have just had the opportunity to watch the match, and I found Brazil's play truly insipid, they went out there thinking and acting as they where invincible and ended up looking like the fools, on the other hand I must give Venezuela their due, they played very well, and it was very unlucky for them that they didnt manage to score a goal. Now they face Ecuador, who knows what will happen in that match.

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#638883 - Tue Jul 05 2011 12:01 AM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: srini701]
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Copa America
2011
Round 1
Fri 1st July
Group Matches


.16 players lodged tips:

. picks correct picks
.15-1-00
10-3-30
16-0-00
7-7-20
15-1-00
8-3-50
1-1
1-0
0-0
0-0
1-1
2-1
1
10
0
7
1
8
Argentina vs Bolivia
Colombia v Costa Rica
Brazil vs Venezuela
Paraguay vs Ecuador
Uruguay vs Peru
Chile v Mexico
dg_dave smile

Nobody! frown
ozzz, rossian, gtho,Leo, paper, srini, Dave
Howie72 smile
rxbig, sypher, N-Bomb, Leo, George95, paper, srini, triviapaul.
.
.
27


Tipping Comp Standings
 
position LW TW
----- ----- ---------
TW LW hi-lo picks bp
----- ----- --------- hf ws
1 -- 1-1 dg_dave s -- 3 4 1 1
2 -- 2-2 Howie72 s -- 2 3 1
2 -- 2-2 LeoDaVinci -- 3 3
2 -- 2-2 paper_aero -- 3 3
2 -- 2-2 srini701 -- 3 3
6 -- 6-6 George95 -- 2 2
6 -- 6-6 ozzz2002 -- 2 2
6 -- 6-6 Sypher -- 2 2
6 -- 6-6 triviapaul -- 2 2
10 -- 10-10 gtho4 -- 1 1
10 -- 10-10 N-Bomb -- 1 1
10 -- 10-10 rossian -- 1 1
10 -- 10-10 rxbigdawg -- 1 1
10 -- 10-10 szabs -- 1 1
15 -- 15-15 BxBarracuda -- 0 0 1
15 -- 15-15 toocool4u -- 0 0 1

late starters 0
27 1 2 2
wooden spoon -- 0 0
best picks -- 3 3
perfect picks -- 6 6
bonus points -- 2 2

default is Wooden Spoon Score
b = bonus point for perfect picks.
s = bonus pt for solo pick, or one of two.
w = bonus point for picking draw, no one picked win.
o = no one picked draw. Bonus pt for picking upset win.
bp= total bonus points.


Weekly Leader




1. +1 dg_dave
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.



Hall of Fame
Wooden Spoon
weekly winners and spoons
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bp % |wk|
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27/96 2 28.1 | 1| 3/6 dg_dave 0/6 BxBarracuda, toocool4u
| 2|
| 3|
| 4|
| 5|
| 6|
| 7|
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A hearty welcome to all of you for Copa America 2011, another of the quadrennial comps here. I am your new host for this comp this year (and errr...the "defending champ" too crazy confused).

16 people lodged tips for the first round, including some football "newcomers" here and as a group, we couldn't have got off to a worse imaginable start frown A pitiable 27 right picks out of 96, making it a success rate of 28.1% is not something to be proud of but on the bright side....we can only get better in the rounds to come wink grin

Strong favorites for the title Argentina were held to a 1-1 draw in the tournament opener by "minnows" Bolivia (coached by an Argentine and the goal scored by a Brazil-born player...how much worse could it get for the Argentines wink )....a result none of us here foresaw, except dg_dave (did he make a million bucks on this game, by any chance wink smile ) The team with the most number of Copa America titles and another favorite after a strong showing in the World Cup last year, Uruguay were also held to a draw by Peru, a result that only Howie72 tipped amongst us. Another strong favorites Brazil were off to an even worse start, failing to even score against Venezuela, something even Dave and Howie failed to pick grin

dg_dave however is at the top of the heap at the moment, with that bonus point, and Howie is bunched along with LeoDaVinci, paper_aero and srini701 a point behind. BxBarracuda and toocool4u are yet to get off the ground.

This one might well be a real tight-knit comp, as gtho4 had predicted allllllllll along, so please spare me some tensions and lodge all kinds of wild tips for the forthcoming rounds wink grin The next round starts Wednesday, July 6, so do lodge your tips in case you haven't done so yet...

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#638888 - Tue Jul 05 2011 12:14 AM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: srini701]
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I made some wild predictions, Srini, and look what it got me. One measly point!
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#638966 - Tue Jul 05 2011 08:52 AM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: rossian]
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Two of the games had no scoring! That would never work in the US, the land of basketball. wink
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#638969 - Tue Jul 05 2011 09:07 AM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: rxbigdawg]
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Originally Posted By: rxbigdawg
That would never work in the US, the land of basketball. wink



Basketball is trying to be #2, behind Football, and ahead of Baseball but if they go too far with this lockout they will sink back to #3, or even #4, like a stone. I think I have watched more soccer in the past year than Basketball.

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#639145 - Wed Jul 06 2011 10:35 AM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: BxBarracuda]
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me too. I enjoyed watching college hoops when I was on campus but I have never gotten into watching the pros. My kids and I are glued to the TV when the World Cup is on!
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#639946 - Sun Jul 10 2011 11:34 PM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: srini701]
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Copa America
2011
Round 2
Wed 6 July
Group Matches


.16 players lodged tips:

. picks correct picks
.16-0-00
5-7-40
1-7-80
6-8-20
0-0
2-0
1-0
1-1
0
4
1
8
Argentina vs Colombia
Bolivia v Costa Rica
Peru v Mexico
Uruguay vs Chile
Nobody! frown
rxbig, N-Bomb, George95, toocool4u
Howie72 smile
BxB, rxbig, Sypher, N-Bomb, Leo, toocool, paper, dg_dave
.
.
.
13


Tipping Comp Standings
 
position LW TW
----- ----- ---------
TW LW hi-lo picks bp
----- ----- --------- hf ws
1 1 1-1 dg_dave 4 1 5 1 1
1 2 1-2 Howie72 s 3 1 5 2
3 2 2-3 LeoDaVinci 3 1 4
3 2 2-3 paper_aero 3 1 4
5 10 5-10 N-Bomb 1 2 3 1
5 10 5-10 rxbigdawg 1 2 3 1
5 6 5-6 George95 2 1 3
5 6 5-6 Sypher 2 1 3
5 2 2-5 srini701 3 0 3 1
10 15 10-15 toocool4u 0 2 2 1 1
10 6 6-10 ozzz2002 2 0 2 1
10 6 6-10 triviapaul 2 0 2 1
13 10 10-13 gtho4 1 0 1 1
13 10 10-13 rossian 1 0 1 1
13 10 10-13 szabs 1 0 1 1
13 15 13-15 BxBarracuda 0 1 1 1

late starters 1
13 4 8 3
wooden spoon 0 0 0
best picks 3 2 5
perfect picks 6 4 10
bonus points 2 1 3

default is Wooden Spoon Score
b = bonus point for perfect picks.
s = bonus pt for solo pick, or one of two.
w = bonus point for picking draw, no one picked win.
o = no one picked draw. Bonus pt for picking upset win.
bp= total bonus points.


Weekly Leader




1. +1 dg_dave
2. +1 dg_dave, Howie72
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.



Hall of Fame
Wooden Spoon
weekly winners and spoons
| | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
bp % |wk|
| |
27/96 2 28.1 | 1| 3/6 dg_dave 0/6 BxBarracuda, toocool4u
13/64 1 20.3 | 2| 2/4 rxbigdawg, N-Bomb, toocool4u 0/6 ozzz2002, rossian, szabs,
gtho4, srini701, triviapaul
| 3|
| 4|
| 5|
| 6|
| 7|
| |
| |



As I was compiling the sciores for the round, I thought to myself "why are we even having this comp this year? crazy confused

We went from bad to worse in the second round, with just 13 right tips in all from a possible 64, for a "success" rate of 20.3%...is it one of the worst ever showing as a group in any FT tipping comp? Dave or gtho4 should chime in here smile

Not one of us picked Argentina to draw for a second consecutive time, just 4 of us picked Costa Rica to win (and thereby losing a bonus point grin ) and only Howie72 managed to tip Peru to win in this round....I am most tempted to give any right tip in this comp an additional bonus point just to make that table look good crazy eek

Here's hoping the next round will bring us some points...
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#639948 - Sun Jul 10 2011 11:47 PM Re: Results & Standings .. Copa America [Re: srini701]
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Is it possible to swab an entire continent? smile
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