I apologize for not replying to the last poster (and will just say that reform of the Team Leader rules/policies is certainly very worthy of discussion, even if it's not precisely on point for the question initially posed in the thread).

Just today, my team has experienced an extremely unselfish act by our founder and longtime leader--he's stepped down because a personal situation makes it impossible for him to fulfill a leader's duties.

He founded the team, I believe, about seven years ago, and has led it all that time.



I'd like to renew my request that site administrators consider the creation of a Team Founder badge for those who've founded a team and led it at least five years. I know that various other time-durations have been discussed and have merit, but by asking for 'five years' I'm trying to both honor those who've put in that impressive amount of time, and make sure that FunTrivia administrators aren't overly burdened by the work of awarding the badge.

It would be wonderful if the handful of people who meet the criteria, among them our Dr. Bob Will, could be recognized in this way.

I think the "Team Founder" badge would actually be a problem if it were defined on such a long scale - members would sit on the leadership just to gain that badge when they should actually pass it on. Also, this wouldn't really help those who took over a team and then lead it over several years.

There should probably just be some sort of "Leader Emeritus" designation which could somewhat be based on team size and longterm leadership - let's say you need 12 months on a large team, 18 on medium and 24 on small to honor the fact that large teams are just more work.

Good point about people possibly hanging on too long just to get the badge, if the time-period chosen is too long.

I like your Emeritus idea very much (including the differential criteria based on team size). What do you think...is there a good chance of this happening? It would have to be the case that it wouldn't be a massive work load for the administrators, but at the same time, if implemented well it would build loyalty to the site, I'd think.

(If the necessity to commission a badge design is a sticking point, I'd be happy to donate some options...)

I think that this is a great idea. Anything less than a year and people will hand it round to get a badge, and it stops players sitting on the badge for x years to get a badge when they leave.

At the least, I think a previous team leader could get some recognition on their page - it doesn't have to be a badge, or even a minibadge. It could just be a line of writing, "This user used to be the team leader of team x, for y months".



Perhaps, if an "assistant leader" idea was implemented, that would solve the problem. The assistant leader could possibly be chosen by the team leader, and get some of the power that the team leader has. They could get a minibadge (again with the same requirements as the badge). This would help (but not completely solve) TVC's problem.

From the above, one or two years sounds reasonable to keep a badge. This would keep the 'pass-around' to a minimum.

After taking the weekend off to attend to some business that was termed unfixable (so I fixed it on my own), I came back to the team as the leader and my Leader badge is gone. It was gone the very second I turned over the leadership actually. I guess I was hoping that since I already had it for over 5 years that it wouldn't be taken or at least it would come back, for longterm service and all that. Was the wording for the badge description edited on the weekend? I don't remember seeing the terms 'portable' and 'rent' in the script on Friday when I read it before I left.
Yes, my team has less than 20 active members, but are we only recognizing medium and large teams as FT teams now? I know that having only 4 or 5 should not qualify, but I have a TEAM. And it's a force to be reckoned with. But we are not seen as a full team? There are quite a few teams out there with 10-15 active players. Should they be relegated to non-team status? If a team has enough players to score regularly in Heroes and TvT as a small team, shouldn't that be enough?

This thread went dormant almost a year ago, with no word from the top. Can we make some modifications to the badge requirements re the size of team, length of service of the leader, and the permanence of the badge?

Yes, I am still waiting for a permanence to the badge. I miss my badge I had for so many years. :P

This is the first time I've fully read through this thread, and I agree, our team founder founded and led the team for quite long, all without thought of reward (I even had to remind him to pick up the Leader badge), and recently stepped down because he felt it unfair to the team that he could no longer devote so much time to FT and the team. I really wish there was a way to remember and thank him. At the moment, he's just a team member although he's actually far more than that, apart from being the best scorer on the team, which would actually be a good badge for, too. Maybe best overall scorer in Heroes and/or Team vs. Team over x amount of time?

I agree it would be nice to see a "final word" on this one way or the other. I still think it is a shame that there remains an anomaly whereby some ex-team leaders still have the badge, and others don't. Either let everyone who has managed a team for 12 months keep the badge, or take it away from everyone who is no longer a team leader.

Let's just be consistent, please!

I agree, stedman.

When this first became the way it is now, I was an "ex-team leader", because two teams merged so I was no longer leader. I still had the badge.

Then, shortly thereafter, I was given leadership again. I knew instantly I'd lose my badge if I were to ever stop being leader AGAIN, so, when our team withered away (tears), I was no longer the team leader. It was then that I lost the badge.

Had I not been leader again, I'd still have the badge.

It is definitely inconsistent.

A solution to this would be to institute a Team Founder badge (different from the Leader badge). It could be based on team members corroborating who the founder was. That way it would not promote the "revolving-door" type of change of leadership.

The problem is a group could get together, "found" 20 teams, taking turns founding said teams.

I'd simply like the leader badge to read "currently lead a team OR have done so at least two years"

I don't know, whatever is decided, it's low priority. Simple one badge I'll ever had, but did, and wish I still did. Odd.

I don't think the scenario you propose would be viable, salami_swami, because it would be too easy to recognize for what it was. In our team's case, we have had two leaders. The founder, davesmom, who served for 3-4 years, and irishrusty, who has taken over and now served for 4-5. Both have made great contributions to our small but cohesive team. Both deserve recognition.

I realize that there are always people who will try to "game" any system that there is, but it would be nice to recognize the real founders of a team that has lasted more than a couple of years with regular participation (whether they are in the top teams or not).