British-American stage, film & TV actor; 'Frida' & 'Spiderman 2'

Alfred Molina

typo - Spider-Man 2

No need to incriminate the whole country. None of us are perfect but this goes too far:

3. German film actress; singer; writer; 'The Murderers are among US'

Your answer: Hildegard Knef

It should be Us not US.

Oh I don't know... I've done the Expert category on Serial Killers many times and many of the Murderers are among you!

True, but at least we have the good manners to catch most of them, rather than letting them continue to run amok like Jack the Ripper!

Nothing the matter with a good amok.

And Jack the Ripper hasn't killed anyone for at least a couple of years.

Will someone check Flopsymopsy's passport for visits to the USA and coincidence to reported instances of amok behavior (sorry, behaviour)??

Amok is a male phenomenon so it wasn't me! Although if you were to look at my passport photo that might be anyone... anyway that's my excuse for the funny looks I get from US Immigration.

Jogging amok is considered the same as running amok in the US. It is practiced by many women at events they call sales.

While shopping I prefer running with my arms akimbo. It clears a better path than running amok.

In today's set, I was given the Count of Porto Alegre, which is actually a position or rank and not a person's name. I think the correct name should have been Manuel Marques de Sousa, based on the answer of Brazilian 19th Century Military Officer.

Australian former (24th) Prime Minster
Your answer: Paul Keating

Minster should be Minister

Victor Herbert = (Irish-born German-raised American composer; conductor; cellist; a founder of ASCAP; 'Babes in Toylan)

Is there a bit missing at the end of this one?

I've only had limited time on FunTrivia for some time. I'm getting back to things I've let slide. Corrections have been made to entries noted here. I still have some changes to make that were PMd to me.

I've resumed collecting new entries for WAI. I have several hundred so far. I'm shooting for at least 700+ to get the database up to 10,000. If you have entries that you would like to see in the game send me a list of names. Descriptions are not necessary.

Happy Holidays to everyone!

Happy WAI Correction Trivia!

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Happy new year !

'E Could Hear Others expressing the same sentiment

what mehaul said...
what mehaul said...

C. S. Lewis
Irish author of the 'Chronicles of Narnia'

You want to start the Troubles all over again? Jack Lewis was born in Belfast in 1898... I have a horrid feeling that the rumbling I can hear is him turning in his grave at the thought of being called "Irish".

Edited to correct typo.

I don't get it, Flopsy... He was born in Ireland. Doesn't that make him Irish? Whether he wants to be Irish or not?

He was born in Northern Ireland and in 1898... at that time the whole of Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and a lot of people who lived there had settled there one or two generations previously, coming from other parts of the UK. And sometimes they hadn't really settled, they were there as part of the administration and left again when their job was done. It's quite possible that C S Lewis's family simply referred to themselves as British although quite often, but not always, people like that were called Anglo-Irish; they certainly weren't called Irish. There was a lot of snobbery around at the time, and social and religious divisions made it all very complicated, but as a general rule calling someone whose family was British or Anglo-Irish "Irish" would have been regarded, rightly or wrongly, as an insult. On top of that Lewis's family were Protestant, and they would have regarded being called "Irish" doubly insulting. I am by no means saying their attitudes were right, but C S Lewis would have been part of that group, that immigrant (some would say colonising) socio-economic class with all its religious overtones, and to call him "Irish" is simply not correct. I've said this before - being born during the 19th Century in what the 21st Century calls country X doesn't mean the person had the nationality which is now associated with that parcel of land; even now, if you call some people from Belfast "Irish" they'll smack you in the mouth, assuming they don't shoot you first. Northern Irish and Irish are not necessarily the same, Anglo-Irish and Irish are not the same, and Northern Irish/British is a whole different can of worms.

Head spinning, but I understand now.

I am pretty sure from everything I have read that C.S. Lewis was self-proclaimed Irish. Just one quote from him talking about meeting up with his friend and fellow Irishman: "Like all Irish people who meet in England we ended by criticisms on the invincible flippancy and dulness of the Anglo-Saxon race. After all, there is no doubt that the Irish are the only people: with all their faults I would not gladly live or die among another folk." Seems pretty straightforward to me.

For the record, that is from The Collected Letters of C.S. Lewis: Family letters, 1905-1931 By Clive Staples Lewis and Walter Hooper. A great read if one is so inclined.

Thanks for posting, bubblefun. I know quite a few people born in Northern Ireland who do consider themselves Irish, even from 3 generations ago. I wanted to find some evidence of what Lewis considered himself to be, and you saved me from having to research it.

Here is one more quote to save you research, lol. This is Lewis talking about his admiration for Yeats: "I am often surprised to find how utterly ignored Yeats is among the men I have met: perhaps his appeal is purely Irish – if so, then thank the gods that I am Irish."

Love it! Thanks.

Flopsy: Snobbery occurs everywhere. Including my country. Including FT. That doesn't change simple facts, merely opinions of same. Opinions are not facts.

I agree with Jakeroo. I know it's a bit more indistinctive between Irish and Northern Irish, but I dare say considering yourself Irish doesn't make you Irish! The border between Ireland and Northern Ireland is political, sure, but then aren't nationalities?

EDIT: Then again, I'm considering the iffiness of considering someone from the entire island "Irish", where those of England, Scotland, and Wales (i.e. Great Britain) would be called "British". Would an Northern Irish call themselves British? I'll have to ask my Northern Irish friends! There perhaps ought be an adjective more relating to United Kingdom than to Britain, which doesn't include N. Ireland! Ahh, this confusing country. :P

I don't think I get your point, Reeshy, if someone is born in Belfast and considers themselves Irish, how does that not make them Irish? What other criteria could there be? In general, I think sticking with how someone identifies themselves is the best way to go.

Exactly, whatever a person has said as what they consider themselves to be, that should take precedence over any other definitions based on others' points of view.