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#795109 - Thu May 17 2012 02:00 AM German police fire 85 bullets in 2011
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http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/201...al-in-2011?lite


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German police officers fired a total of 85 bullets in 2011, 49 of which were warning shots, the German publication Der Spiegel reported. Officers fired 36 times at people, killing six and injuring 15.


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Meanwhile, in the United States, The Atlantic reported that in April, 84 shots were fired at one murder suspect in Harlem, and another 90 at an unarmed man in Los Angeles.

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#795116 - Thu May 17 2012 04:03 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: Copago]
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I wonder how many bullets the police in the UK used in the same period of time, not a lot I am guessing.
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#795118 - Thu May 17 2012 04:26 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: sue943]
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These figures are for the number of incidents in England and Wales where police discharged firearms (not the actual number of bullets fired). The period reported is April to March.

2001/2002 11

2002/2003 10

2003/2004 4

2004/2005 5

2005/2006 9

2006/2007 3

2007/2008 7

2008/2009 5

2009/2010 6

Oddly enough, there's a footnote to say that these figures don't include training sessions!

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#795126 - Thu May 17 2012 06:06 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: dippo]
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Originally Posted By: dippo

Oddly enough, there's a footnote to say that these figures don't include training sessions!


You have to love us Brits. smile


Edited by sue943 (Thu May 17 2012 06:06 AM)
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#795147 - Thu May 17 2012 07:50 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: sue943]
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Oh for the good old days of 2006/7! smile
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#795152 - Thu May 17 2012 08:46 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: flopsymopsy]
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Tragically, one of the 9 incidents in 2005/2006 included the 7 shots in the head (and one in the shoulder) inflicted on poor Jean Charles de Menezes.
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#795388 - Fri May 18 2012 05:17 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: dsimpy]
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That was tragic. One wonders how many innocent people were killed in other countries by police if the Brits managed with over ten percent.
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#795418 - Fri May 18 2012 08:52 AM Re: German police fire 85 bullets in 2011 [Re: sue943]
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Indeed. Although those 9 shooting incidents in 2005/2006 resulted in another 5 separate deaths that year (in addition to Jean Charles de Menezes). Disturbingly, at least two of them involved individuals with severe mental health problems, who were not 'criminals' in the normal sense of that term. So while it's true (welcomely so) that police in England and Wales are inevitably less involved in shootings because they're not routinely armed, I'm not sure there's much difference in outcome between them and police elsewhere when armed police are deployed.
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