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#797792 - Mon May 28 2012 04:38 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: DireWolf74]
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I think the fact by 11pm not one player has got them all right confirms the questionable status of this one:

going away is related to feat



You said: move

going away means "act of departing"
feat means "a notable achievement"


Can anyone explain why the two are connected, I can't.
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#797830 - Mon May 28 2012 07:05 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: satguru]
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They are both, vaguely, a type of action. I certainly would not connect them unless by elimination to optimise the fit for the other pairs in the set.
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#797861 - Mon May 28 2012 11:21 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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Just came to say the same.

going away is related to feat


You said: move

going away means "act of departing"
feat means "a notable achievement"



career is related to move


You said: feat

career means "move headlong at high speed"
move means "change location"


Meh.

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#798355 - Thu May 31 2012 06:30 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: cairnster]
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Career & Move fit together, but Feat and Going Away are definitely mis-matched.

Quote:
They are both, vaguely, a type of action.


I wonder if the word "act" in the definition of Going Away has caused the mis-match? Act and Feat would normally match.


Edited by Chavs (Thu May 31 2012 06:32 AM)

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#798436 - Thu May 31 2012 12:49 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Chavs]
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It isn't a mismatch, it is one of those very tenuous links that crop up in part 3 of Mind Melt - they aren't definitions, and the exact nature of the relationship can be as slight as a common word in a secondary or tertiary definition.
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#805963 - Mon Jul 02 2012 07:11 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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summer camp is related to site
You said: activity

Could this one be changed, as a summer camp can really be either a site or an activity?

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#808243 - Wed Jul 11 2012 08:23 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: George95]
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If I remember correctly Bubbatom also claimed that the Crystal Ball was the "worst" game EVER, even though he/she managed to endure its "horridness" (despite the fact that it is not included in any required "team" game) and get the 25 Badge anyway lol (kudos for that, btw : )).

I am still bemused by the fact that people keep posting "this HAS to be fixed" type of complaints here. As far as has been construed so far, the dictionary/database used is not in the "control" of this website and thus cannot be "amended" by anyone here - so my only advice is to either work with it, or get over it, or sign a petition to opt for increased fees to pay for the rights to an actual "published in book form" dictionary (although I'm sure we would then have endless complaints about which PARTICULAR dictionary from WHICH part of the world is chosen as well as the fee lol), or don't play it at all and let the people who DO enjoy the game, DO so LOL.

That being said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with posting pure and simple "grumblings" (everyone is certainly entitled to their personal opinion even though opinions are definitely not facts) - but for those folks who continue to "demand" ACTUAL changes to be made in the database in the near future? ummm.... might want to choose a different game to "pick on" : )))))

I like this game. I'm not very good at it, but I certainly don't begrudge answers that don't correlate with mine.

Looney: thank you for your infinite patience in continuing to point out the related possibilities, however vague they may be. We all live in different parts of the world and slight differences in usage can mean a "world" of difference in results.

There IS no perfect, singularly, universally correct answer for lots of things (eSPECIALly when it comes to language). Surely, most people here have had similar experiences in multiple question tests in school/university where you were asked for the "best" answer amongst the choices, no matter what the subject? Nowhere in the instructions for this game does it say "pick the one and only answer that you are personally familiar with, either due to your education or demographics or personal opinion - and therefore whatever answer you choose should be given credit for as being correct" : )

In contrast to the game itself, there is MORE than a subtle difference between the two major types of comments/complaints in this thread lol



Edited by Jakeroo (Wed Jul 11 2012 08:26 PM)
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#808297 - Thu Jul 12 2012 08:02 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Jakeroo]
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Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
There IS no perfect, singularly, universally correct answer for lots of things (eSPECIALly when it comes to language).


Jakeroo, this is perhaps the best summary of the reactions to this game that I've seen! We should frame it and place it on the game page.

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#808304 - Thu Jul 12 2012 08:30 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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This made me smile (wince?). They could definitely have done with being the other way round. wink

The opposite of odds is unlikelihood

You said: improbable

odds means "the probability of a specified outcome"
unlikelihood means "the improbability of a specified outcome"

The opposite of likely is improbable

You said: unlikelihood

likely means "likely but not certain to be or become true or real"
improbable means "not likely to be true or to occur or to have occurred"

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#808305 - Thu Jul 12 2012 08:33 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: glendathecat]
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I think a wince followed by a shrug of the shoulders and a weak grin is the only answer to some of the weird and wonderful combinations which come up. After all, tomorrow is another day (is that original? or did I hear it somewhere else?).

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#808309 - Thu Jul 12 2012 10:03 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: rossian]
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Originally Posted By: rossian
After all, tomorrow is another day (is that original? or did I hear it somewhere else?).


Fiddle dee dee... Now where have I heard that line before? Maybe a spot of sweet tea will help my pretty little head remember.

wink
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#808328 - Thu Jul 12 2012 11:15 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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The answer is blowing in the wind. smile
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#808331 - Thu Jul 12 2012 11:35 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: flopsymopsy]
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Tomorrow, tomorrow, is always a day away.
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#808339 - Thu Jul 12 2012 01:07 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: flopsymopsy]
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Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
The answer is blowing in the wind. smile


Oh, I see. Bob Dylan wrote it. grin

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#808359 - Thu Jul 12 2012 03:01 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JanIQ]
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Originally Posted By: JanIQ
Tomorrow, tomorrow, is always a day away.


Oh dear, that one is sung by a little redheaded girl, a poor little orphan waif, if my recollections are correct...

I must confess that I do prefer the dark brown hue of my own hair, it so sets off my green eyes, which have been known to dazzle the best of the young southern gentlemen at our neighborhood barbecues. smile
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#809174 - Mon Jul 16 2012 04:34 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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The opposite of exasperate is better

exasperate means "make worse"
better means "to make better"

Doesn't this confuse "exasperate" and "exacerbate"?

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#809194 - Mon Jul 16 2012 08:01 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: mdurnanj]
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It does, but that's the definition in the reference dictionary - you will also encounter it in Word Wizard. As has been mentioned before, both of these games use an online dictionary that is not controlled from here, so we learn to live with its quirks.
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#809240 - Tue Jul 17 2012 02:03 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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Merriam Webster says:



exasperate

1
a : to excite the anger of : enrage
b : to cause irritation or annoyance to

2
obsolete : to make more grievous : aggravate





In which case, the opposite can be "to make better".






Oh my gosh, I've started to defend Mind Melt issues. I have crossed over to the dark side! Help!

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#809365 - Tue Jul 17 2012 03:33 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Chavs]
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Originally Posted By: Chavs
Oh my gosh, I've started to defend Mind Melt issues. I have crossed over to the dark side! Help!


It's times like these that I search for the "Like" button on this forum! smile
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#809950 - Fri Jul 20 2012 08:29 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: shuehorn]
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typo -
koan is a paradoxical [annecdote] or a riddle that has no solution - should be anecdote

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#810715 - Wed Jul 25 2012 02:43 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: ssabreman]
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and elsewhere is: used as an abbreviation of `et alibi'' when referring to other occurrences in a text

Technically, "and elsewhere" is the translation of "et alibi"; "et al." is the abbreviation. (I had previously only known of "et al." as an abbreviation of "et alii". I also learned about "et aliae" and "et alia".)

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#811371 - Sat Jul 28 2012 09:53 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: TimBentley]
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foursome is related to gathering

You said: grouping

foursome means "four people considered as a unit"
gathering means "a group of persons together in one place"

grouping means "any number of entities (members) considered as a unit"

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#813680 - Wed Aug 08 2012 02:54 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JanIQ]
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Okay, while I have questioned quite a few answers on Mind Melt, this particular one necessitated putting it on the board:

eyesight is related to visual sense



You said: visual modality

eyesight means "normal use of the faculty of vision"
visual sense means "the ability to see"

photopic vision is related to visual modality



You said: visual sense

photopic vision means "normal vision in daylight"
visual modality means "the ability to see"

Since both answers I selected have the same exact definition "the ability to see" I sure can't understand how both are wrong answers!! LOL

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#813682 - Wed Aug 08 2012 02:56 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Ghosttowner]
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Guess I should have said "I sure can't SEE how both are wrong answers" :-)

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#813704 - Wed Aug 08 2012 03:39 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Ghosttowner]
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I had that set, and I got them the 'wrong' way around too. I think it's one of those times for shrugging your shoulders with a weak grin on your face.

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#813727 - Wed Aug 08 2012 05:16 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: rossian]
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I got them right... but only because the words "sense" and "sight" seem to go together as simple nouns whereas the other two seemed more technical - as though they'd been invented by an opthalmic surgeon whose grasp of adverbs might need some attention from a portentous mobilotome (aka a quick whack round the head with a dictionary).
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#813749 - Wed Aug 08 2012 08:02 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: flopsymopsy]
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For all the apathy on extremely similar (or in one case, exact) definitions, can't one of the two be removed from the game to prevent this sort of thing?


Here's another one, akin to the one I posted before:

pain pill is related to medicament
You said: cure

pain pill means "a medicine used to relieve pain"
medicament means "(medicine) something that treats or prevents or alleviates the symptoms of disease"

cure means "a medicine or therapy that cures disease or relieve pain"

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#815138 - Tue Aug 14 2012 03:58 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: nautilator]
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Typos on the quotation marks in:

nigher is (comparative of `near'' or `close'') within a shorter distance; "come closer, my dear!"; "they drew nearer"; "getting nearer to the true explanation"

But the extra definitions had them correct. hmmm.

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#815953 - Fri Aug 17 2012 02:36 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JanIQ]
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I just went through four minutes of doing MM, and after submitting my answers, it's says I didn't answer any of them and it gave me a 0/30! What's going on here?! I'm very angry.


Edited by cubswin2323 (Fri Aug 17 2012 02:36 PM)
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#817479 - Thu Aug 23 2012 05:46 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: Buddy1]
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I normally just take this game as it comes and shake my head in amusement at some of the definitions.
However, today was one I wanted to share:
The definition of 'Take the bull by the horns' was NOT 'taking the bull by the horns' (that was actually one of the options) but something else. The other option was reasonable, but still.... got to laugh :-)

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