oh dear. Are they in NC temp water? You need to come on a fishing trip to the northern West Coast with us. There are 10 of us going in August, you and the wife would be more than welcome (don't bring food, we always have tooo much). I'd post a pic of my Chinook that qualified as a "Tyee" but I can't do that til someone fixes my puterthatdied.
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