#812560 - Fri Aug 03 2012 06:29 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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It's not needed, nor recommended during an Endurance attempt. In the time that the Obscurity hour takes to switch over, you could score a good 3 000-5 000 points doing other, more enjoyable and more fruitful things that score more points.
It's not recommended by you. Some of us think it's a perfectly good way to score 2000 or more points in a day's play. It takes no time to "switch over" because you play then click on to something else, no one waits for anything. And if you can get 5000 points in the time it takes me to click on a link in my toolbar then you have to explain how you do it. Getting the top score in my division of Piece Of Cake or the Mixed Trivia hourlies can get me up to 300 points or even more all by itself, and it isn't all that hard to get 10 easy questions in under 40 seconds; the hard part is beating people who can do it in HALF that time, but, that's why practice exists. So? No one is saying you should do Obscurity instead of another hourly, only that it's easy to do it as well. I did my homework properly before I went for Endurance; Googling too much on over-difficult stuff like the Obscurity hourly will only jerk you around in the long run. I repeat, if you're doing Obscurity to get Endurance points there's no need to google at all because you're not trying to win the game, just get five right. A quick read through the questions, two or three considered answers, and random clicking for the rest should do that.
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#812563 - Fri Aug 03 2012 07:12 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: flopsymopsy]
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It's not recommended by you. Some of us think it's a perfectly good way to score 2000 or more points in a day's play. It takes no time to "switch over" because you play then click on to something else, no one waits for anything. And if you can get 5000 points in the time it takes me to click on a link in my toolbar then you have to explain how you do it. Exactly. And Mikey, who are you to say which games are more enjoyable than others? Do I find 10 completely easy questions (PoC) more fun than 15 very difficult questions (Obscurity)? No, and others might not either.
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#812584 - Fri Aug 03 2012 09:27 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
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@ Flopsy: As I said in the opening post, only the truly gifted should be anywhere near Obscurity to begin with. Even if you get the measly 5 right, the time it took to google it all isn't worth it.
Let's say you got the 200 point bonus in all of the 24 Obscurities that take place in an entire Endurance attempt. That'd be 4,800 points for googling the correct answers to 120 over-difficult questions in 24 hours.
You can score over 5,000 in *ONE* hour doing quizzes that you DON'T have to Google up. I'm just saying that anything that you need to Google over isn't worth it in a challenge, like Endurance, where time is money--er, points.
There's been multiple times, back when I was originally gifted my Gold Membership (anonymously) where I had to make "educated guesses" on *all 15* Obscurity questions and got only 1 or 2. It's simply not worth it unless you know what you're dealing with, especially when it comes to Endurance.
In my humble opinion, you might as well just stick to Who's The Expert? or Word Wizard; Those are all 15 questions, too, only you'll have an easier and more tolerable time with those, especially during something that *already* is as potentially exhausting as Endurance.
By the by, I meant 5,000 points during an Obscurity shift (one hour). Though, I wouldn't be surprised if there IS some sorta extremely hidden way to rack up 5,000 points in 60 seconds. I'll let you know if there is such a way.
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@ Adam: By the same token, not everyone is gonna like a game as mind-numbingly difficult as Obscurity.
Some people actually LIKE easy stuff; others--like me--favor medium-to-*slightly* difficult trivia questions. Obscurity in general is too difficult for anyone but only the most expert Googlers and the TRUEST trivia savants.
Go near it during an Endurance attempt at your own peril.
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#812603 - Fri Aug 03 2012 10:09 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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I've just done Obscurity for the first time in ages - 10/15 without googling. 201 bonus points and 200 Obscurity bonus = 401 pts in less than 90 seconds. If I did that ten times in a day that's 4000+ points in 15 minutes.
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#812605 - Fri Aug 03 2012 10:10 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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Even if you get the measly 5 right, the time it took to google it all isn't worth it.
You just don't get it... not everyone *needs* to Google, in order to get the 'measly' 5 correct. Go near it during an Endurance attempt at your own peril It seems that many of us are daredevils, then.
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#812618 - Fri Aug 03 2012 10:26 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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Obscurity in general is too difficult for anyone but only the most expert Googlers and the TRUEST trivia savants. @ Flopsy and Postie: That fits you 2 under the latter category, then (True trivia savant).
Argument over. =)
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#812644 - Fri Aug 03 2012 12:18 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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@ Flopsy: As I said in the opening post, only the truly gifted should be anywhere near Obscurity to begin with. Even if you get the measly 5 right, the time it took to google it all isn't worth it. So 62 seconds is not worth 200 points? Let's say you got the 200 point bonus in all of the 24 Obscurities that take place in an entire Endurance attempt. That'd be 4,800 points for googling the correct answers to 120 over-difficult questions in 24 hours.
You can score over 5,000 in *ONE* hour doing quizzes that you DON'T have to Google up. I'm just saying that anything that you need to Google over isn't worth it in a challenge, like Endurance, where time is money--er, points. Let's say I take 2 minutes to complete 1 game of Obscurity (that is more than I usually take, but oh well). That means that I spend 48 minutes and get 4,800 points + any I get extra. I would probably get 10 extra per game, so that's a total of 5,040 points. I spend 12 minutes less and get 40 points extra. No downside whatsoever. There's been multiple times, back when I was originally gifted my Gold Membership (anonymously) where I had to make "educated guesses" on *all 15* Obscurity questions and got only 1 or 2. It's simply not worth it unless you know what you're dealing with, especially when it comes to Endurance. You were clearly very unlucky. On average, you should be guessing 3.75 correct. @ Adam: By the same token, not everyone is gonna like a game as mind-numbingly difficult as Obscurity.
Some people actually LIKE easy stuff; others--like me--favor medium-to-*slightly* difficult trivia questions. I understand that some people like easy stuff, but you clearly didn't understand that some people like harder stuff. You said more enjoyable ... things . That is your opinion, and I was saying that I personally find harder questions more interesting (of course it depends on how interesting the actual facts in both questions are). Obscurity in general is too difficult for anyone but only the most expert Googlers and the TRUEST trivia savants. 3 people apart from you have added to the Obscurity discussion (me, flopsy and postcards). All 3 of those people have said that they can easily get 5 right in at least most games. I am certainly not an "expert Googler" or a "TRUEST trivia savant". I don't mean to insult flopsy or postcards, but there are better players than them. If you cannot Google these questions fast enough, then I think you are the odd one out. Assuming you already had a Google tab open, how long would it take you to highlight a line of lyrics, press "Ctrl C", click on the Google tab and press "Ctrl V" and then enter? 5 seconds max, I would think.
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#812645 - Fri Aug 03 2012 12:38 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: AdamM7]
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When I went for the endurance badge, although I had some strategies in mind, basically I just 'went for it'. I managed well over 100,000 points, with several hours left in the bag if I had felt like carrying on. Effectively, I set myself a target of 5,000 points an hour, which generally I exceeded. Personally, whatever tactics you employ, the key point is in the name of the badge. i.e. Endurance.
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#812646 - Fri Aug 03 2012 12:41 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: AdamM7]
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I don't mean to insult flopsy or postcards, but there are better players than them.
Not insulted, Adam. You echo my daily thoughts 
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#812647 - Fri Aug 03 2012 12:43 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: AdamM7]
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I don't mean to insult flopsy or postcards, but there are better players than them. Better than postie?  LOL, no offence taken... though on a good day, with a following wind, and rabbit ears tied back I might do anything. 
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#812648 - Fri Aug 03 2012 01:22 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: surdoux]
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When I went for the endurance badge, although I had some strategies in mind, basically I just 'went for it'. I managed well over 100,000 points, with several hours left in the bag if I had felt like carrying on. Effectively, I set myself a target of 5,000 points an hour, which generally I exceeded. Personally, whatever tactics you employ, the key point is in the name of the badge. i.e. Endurance. I remember it Brian well. Brian, Jax and I stayed up til past midnight, cheering you on.
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#812655 - Fri Aug 03 2012 01:45 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Jennings]
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It was the support I had from all of my team members that kept me going.
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#812666 - Fri Aug 03 2012 05:22 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: SilverMoonsong]
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@ Agony: BRILLIANT name. No joke.
Anyhoo, I didn't break any rules during the Endurance run; I'm already on borrowed time from Terry himself for a rule I accidentally broke (Having both Mikey76500 and Michael76500--2 accounts. The Michael one has been deleted). The LAST thing I need is getting HIS attention AGAIN.
And I never said that my word was gospel or that my way was the only way; nor have I ever insulted anyone. Heck, I just COMPLIMENTED Flopsy and Postcards.
This topic, which was made to help make Endurance slightly easier for those that don't have it, seems to have started to degenerate into a free-for-all attack on my opinion, which makes no sense. If I wanna have the opinion that Obscurity isn't worth it during an Endurance attempt, I do believe I have the right to have that opinion. I'm not attacking anyone else's opinion, here. Think what you want to and do what you want to during your OWN Endurance attempt; just do so at your own risk.
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@ Adam: I notice how you keep quoting things I say as if I said something extraordinarily stupid like, "My way was better than yours", or "If you can't get 40,000 like I did, you suck", or "My word is gospel".
The original post was good advice forming a humble opinion from a 21-year-old kid based on research and careful planning. If you hate it THAT much, don't follow it. If you think it's that wrong, you could always make your own topic like this. It's not required that my opinion be the same as yours, nor is it required that I agree that your opinion is better than mine. If you don't like my opinion, just ignore this topic. You have better things to do today than to try to cram your opinion down my throat.
You have your opinion, and I have mine. I got 40 082 points WITHOUT the mind-numbness that is the Obscurity hourly, and I got Endurance to boot. Trying to cram Obscurity into my subconscious is a waste of both my time and yours. Please stop.
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@ Surdoux: I'm not saying that just "going for it" is a bad thing, but, I just thought that there's a chance to have better results if you have a plan in mind beforehand.
"fail to prepare, prepare to fail".
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#812697 - Fri Aug 03 2012 10:21 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: surdoux]
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When I went for the endurance badge, although I had some strategies in mind, basically I just 'went for it'. I managed well over 100,000 points, with several hours left in the bag if I had felt like carrying on. Effectively, I set myself a target of 5,000 points an hour, which generally I exceeded. Personally, whatever tactics you employ, the key point is in the name of the badge. i.e. Endurance. 100,000 is so incredible! I thought I had a lot at 50,000, but wow! Just as a general thing: I didn't use Obscurity to get extra points for Endurance. I had no idea until reading these posts that there was a 200pt bonus for getting 5 correct. But, if I'd known, I probably would have played that game too. I'm generally a pretty good guesser.
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#812701 - Sat Aug 04 2012 12:02 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: surdoux]
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The Girls in their Cheerleading outfits helped as well Brian, well it did me when I got mine
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#812721 - Sat Aug 04 2012 01:20 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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This topic, which was made to help make Endurance slightly easier for those that don't have it, seems to have started to degenerate into a free-for-all attack on my opinion, which makes no sense. If I wanna have the opinion that Obscurity isn't worth it during an Endurance attempt, I do believe I have the right to have that opinion. I'm not attacking anyone else's opinion, here. Think what you want to and do what you want to during your OWN Endurance attempt; just do so at your own risk. I didn't see it as a "free-for-all attack on [your] opinion". I was stating my opinion, and other people stated theirs, including some people who posted things that had nothing to do with Obscurity. According to SilverMoonsong, an admin and a moderator were/are watching this, and they haven't told us to stop. @ Adam: I notice how you keep quoting things I say as if I said something extraordinarily stupid like, "My way was better than yours", or "If you can't get 40,000 like I did, you suck", or "My word is gospel".
The original post was good advice forming a humble opinion from a 21-year-old kid based on research and careful planning. If you hate it THAT much, don't follow it. If you think it's that wrong, you could always make your own topic like this. It's not required that my opinion be the same as yours, nor is it required that I agree that your opinion is better than mine. If you don't like my opinion, just ignore this topic. You have better things to do today than to try to cram your opinion down my throat.
You have your opinion, and I have mine. I got 40 082 points WITHOUT the mind-numbness that is the Obscurity hourly, and I got Endurance to boot. Trying to cram Obscurity into my subconscious is a waste of both my time and yours. Please stop. Okay. I think we've reached a stalemate here. I never meant to "cram Obscurity into [your] subconscious", but if it sounded like I was, I apologise. I think the original problem came for your tone (or what I thought was your tone). It sounded to me like you were saying that there has been multiple discussions with all the experts about whether Obscurity was a valid or invalid way of earning points during an Endurance attempt. Maybe if you hadn't used words like "research" and "recommended", and had put "opinion" somewhere, then this problem wouldn't have occured (that, of course, is just my opinion - other people may have read it differently, but I'm just trying to stop this from happening again since it's clear that you didn't like it). And by the way, I have Endurance too. I might not have gotten as many points in the attempt (I think it was in the 30Ks), but I still have my own ideas. Edit reason: Typo
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#812851 - Sat Aug 04 2012 01:20 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: AdamM7]
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I've just though of another tip for a few extra points.
Rating: Always rate quizzes you play when you're done. In addition to adding to your total quizzes rate which can earn you a full badge "Quiz Rater", rating quizzes gives you an additional 20 bonus points per quiz. I believe you have to score at least 2 correct to rate a quiz, but googling should be enough to get to correct if it's on a subject you're not familiar with. Every little bit helps.
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#812852 - Sat Aug 04 2012 01:37 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: AdamM7]
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I would love to get the Endurance Badge and the idea of setting down one time to do it is a really good idea - thanks guys. I find that in games like Piece of Cake if I do them often enough I start getting the easiest questions wrong which is embarrassing for me but I find that I can often get from five to seven right in the Obscurity - which is strange to me but possibly makes sense, and YES I find it frustrating that people can do PoC in twenty seconds I dont believe my computer can go that fast but oh well more power to others that can - well will set myself a day ok Take Care Cathy
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#812853 - Sat Aug 04 2012 01:42 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: postcards2go]
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#812856 - Sat Aug 04 2012 01:55 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: underscored]
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I had more than one comment. To which are you referring?
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#812868 - Sat Aug 04 2012 04:49 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
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@ Adam: Actually, I DID have a discussion with 2 randomly-picked Gold Members in particular about all the gold-only sections and about how hard they generally are back when I was originally gifted my Gold Membership back in July. It's just as better that they WEREN'T Centurions, now that I think about it, because I got their answer from a point of view like my original post: someone who ISN'T yet a hyper-gifted role model for the rest of us.
They might not have been experts, but, that doesn't mean that I can't take their advice, put it together with mine, and come to a sensible conclusion--not about Obscurity in GENERAL, but, about it's importance (or lack thereof) in an Endurance attempt. Again, you can always ignore my comments if you don't like the way *I* do *my* homework. However, the time where you senselessly have an pointless argument with me about a gold-member-only section of the site with insanely difficult questions that has no mandatory requirement to be included in neither an Endurance attempt nor my opinions needs to stop. Seriously.
Unless of course, you *WANT* the negative attention of people like SilverMoon, Agony and--worst of all--Terry, himself (Who I've already had a close encounter with).
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@ Kaddarsgirl: This is why I say that doing "Very Difficult" and "Impossible" quizzes--difficulty-wise--can hurt you instead of help you during an Endurance attempt. Unless, of course, you know a LOT about that quiz's subject.
And even then, you can certainly still be surprised. :P
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#812931 - Sat Aug 04 2012 08:52 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mikey76500]
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@ Kaddarsgirl: This is why I say that doing "Very Difficult" and "Impossible" quizzes--difficulty-wise--can hurt you instead of help you during an Endurance attempt. Unless, of course, you know a LOT about that quiz's subject.
And even then, you can certainly still be surprised. :P Not sure what comment you're referring to with this. If it's the rating comment, I'm not sure why you're bringing it up. Rating for additional points would apply to any quiz difficulty. It's whether you rate or not, not whether you rate a quiz that is more difficult than another. If you're referring to something else, please explain further, as your comment is a little unclear.
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#812939 - Sat Aug 04 2012 09:41 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: kaddarsgirl]
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Not sure what comment you're referring to with this. If it's the rating comment, I'm not sure why you're bringing it up. Rating for additional points would apply to any quiz difficulty. It's whether you rate or not, not whether you rate a quiz that is more difficult than another. If you're referring to something else, please explain further, as your comment is a little unclear. What he means is that you have more of a chance to get 2/10 or higher on an easier quiz. For difficult quizzes, you may get a lower score, thus losing the chance to rate. Therefore, there is a risk in playing more difficult quizzes when you are trying to get many points quickly. At least, that's how I understood it.
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#812961 - Sat Aug 04 2012 11:13 PM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: Mariamir]
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With regard the the Endurance badge, the clue is in the name of the badge. To get this badge doesn't require the player to achieve maximum scores, nor to have any knowledge of the subject matter of the quiz. It matters not whether the quiz be 'very difficult' or 'impossible', any points towards the ultimate goal are more than welcome in my humble opinion. No need to agonize over each question in the more difficult quizzes or 'google'. When I got the Endurance badge, I think I was 'quizzing' for about 16 hours, but not constantly. I had time to cook and eat meals etc...I most certainly wasn't a 'Centurian', this didn't even exist when I got my badge! I played Obscurity and the more difficult quizzes during my attempt. I don't think these quizzes can 'hurt' or thwart ones efforts, unless you take a long time to do the quizzes by researching answers! No need for research and googling, if you don't know the answer, 'click and go'  Each person has their own method for achieving this badge. The main ingredient for success, as far as I am concerned, is setting aside sufficient time, after all you wouldn't attempt to run a marathon in 1.5 hours 
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#812964 - Sun Aug 05 2012 12:00 AM
Re: The Endurance Badge from my perspective.
[Re: demurechicky]
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@ Kaddarsgirl: What Mariamir said. Sorry. =)
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@ Mariamir: Lovely name. You were 100% on target, by the by; Thanks for clarifying for me. It's appreciated. =D
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@ Demure: Forgive me, but, I beg to differ.
Very Difficult and Impossible-difficulty Quizzes are almost always just that; Very difficult and/or impossible to get a decent percentage right on. Again, there's no difficulty bonus if you don't get a decent percentage right, and if you get 1 or 2, the 15 or 30 points you get aren't worth it, Endurance-wise.
Normally, the difficulty matters not, I know. However, during an Endurance attempt, time is mone--uh, Points. Wasted time = wasted points; You'd have been better off doing a "Very Easy" quiz, in this instance.
Oh, and it may very well require you to get the maximum points; You never know what kinda day you'll have when doing an Endurance attempt.
Take me, for example: I decided to go for Endurance on July 30; a Monday. I thought that it'd be a slow day; I checked the Hall Of Fame, and some of the lower scores that Kickaha49 had made recently are on Mondays. Heck, the high score for the Monday before my attempt--July 23--was about 21 000, so, I assumed I wouldn't have to work too hard if I went for it on July 30. Bad idea.
I was at 22 000 when I noticed at around 1:00 PM (FT time), that a new member was climbing up the ranks almost as fast as I did. When I checked, he had 18 500, and since there was another 10.5 hours in the day, I had to assume the worst--he could definitely catch me.
So, I went for 30 000, but, the 2nd place player broke 23 000 and was still climbing, so, I had to go for 35 000. Then, when I got there, I just said "To heck with it", and went for 40 000 in case anyone *else* had any ideas.
I never said that you had to quiz for all 24 hours. In fact, the original post even states that taking occasional breaks is okay. But, the reason that I say that you should make no assumptions is because, for all you know, on the day that you decide to go for Endurance, there could be a Mikey76500 or a Kaddarsgirl or even a Surdoux waiting in the wings to implement a strategy of their own that will allow them to do as well as I (or they) did.
If Kaddarsgirl can score 52 265 in one day.....No--if *Surdoux* can score over *100 000* points in one day, someone else certainly can, too.
Don't make assumptions. Leave as little to chance as possible.
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