@ Adam: Actually, I DID have a discussion with 2 randomly-picked Gold Members in particular about all the gold-only sections and about how hard they generally are back when I was originally gifted my Gold Membership back in July. It's just as better that they WEREN'T Centurions, now that I think about it, because I got their answer from a point of view like my original post: someone who ISN'T yet a hyper-gifted role model for the rest of us.
They might not have been experts, but, that doesn't mean that I can't take their advice, put it together with mine, and come to a sensible conclusion--not about Obscurity in GENERAL, but, about it's importance (or lack thereof) in an Endurance attempt. Again, you can always ignore my comments if you don't like the way *I* do *my* homework. However, the time where you senselessly have an pointless argument with me about a gold-member-only section of the site with insanely difficult questions that has no mandatory requirement to be included in neither an Endurance attempt nor my opinions needs to stop. Seriously.
Unless of course, you *WANT* the negative attention of people like SilverMoon, Agony and--worst of all--Terry, himself (Who I've already had a close encounter with).
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you never told me what those random gold members said. You came to a conclusion, but you never said that it was only your conclusion, and that other people might feel differently about it (until later). I was simply trying to do the same thing as you - help people get Endurance by pointing out ways to get points, with Obscurity being the way to get points.
I didn't see the argument as senseless, and neither did other people, or they wouldn't have joined in (or would have told us to stop). You can come up with your own ideas, opinions and comments, but you never said that they were just your ideas, opinions and comments - as I said in my previous post, you didn't say "opinion", and used vocabulary that implied that you were right and that no-one could possibly prove that Obscurity was worthwhile. A couple of posts ago, you said that "[you] notice how [I] keep quoting things [you] say as if [you] said something extraordinarily stupid". I was copying the words you said and responding to them. Maybe you did say something extraordinarily stupid, but I was not putting words in your mouth - I was picking the phrases I wanted to respond about because those were the ones I had an issue with.
I'm not sure if you're threatening me with talking about SilverMoon etc., but Terry has not posted in this thread, Agony has not told us to stop and SilverMoon only gave us advice to continue
arguing in a civil way. In any case, you are part of this argument just as much as me, and if you have attracted the attention of Terry before then I think we know who would get the most attention if this argument was considered uncivil.
I apologise to anyone who's tired of us arguing. I've tried to stop, I even apologised (and I am very stubborn), but I never could let anyone else get the last word.