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#835581 - Wed Oct 31 2012 08:03 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: sooz888]
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Originally Posted By: sooz888
I tried the Ten in a Day badge today and ended up with 2 challenges which are not decided until midnight [FT time] and I am therefore effectively blocked from buying further challenges - stalemate - any ideas?

sooz888


As a Gold Member, do you still have that switch a challenge perk? I think you can switch one out if you do, unless it's an Epic, or challenge involving a partner.

Otherwise, hate to say this, but, tough luck. Try again some other time. :s
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#835677 - Wed Oct 31 2012 02:43 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Mariamir]
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Thanks to Mariamir for that, but sadly, I'd already used my 'perk' and switched off the Difficult Challenge on the Crystal Ball. I knew from experience that my chances of winning that today were slim to none... at least it would have kept some hope alive. I'll save it next time.... maybe I was just unlucky?

sooz

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#835692 - Wed Oct 31 2012 03:56 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: sooz888]
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Hi sooz -- your situation is possible, but unlikely. Very unlucky!

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#835810 - Thu Nov 01 2012 04:27 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Terry]
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Thanks Terry, I guess I used up all my luck finding your excellent site! I'll try the 10 in a day again soon.

sooz

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#835870 - Thu Nov 01 2012 09:22 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: sooz888]
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Depending on how early (as in how many challenges you have) you got the challenge, it may not take long to regain the necessary credits. That is an advantage of being quickly (rather than lately) inelgible to get the minibadge.

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#835908 - Thu Nov 01 2012 12:13 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Buddy1]
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Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Depending on how early (as in how many challenges you have) you got the challenge, it may not take long to regain the necessary credits. That is an advantage of being quickly (rather than lately) ineligible to get the minibadge.

However, you cannot make a purchase with two incomplete challenges, so if you have two that don't finish until the end of the day, and can't use your Gold Member perk to swap one of them, you have run out of luck.
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#835943 - Thu Nov 01 2012 02:33 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: looney_tunes]
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I just want to clarify that I mean suppose you buy a challenge and that causes the number of "doesn't end until midnight" challenges to increase to 2. You also don't have your Gold Member swap. All you did was spend 9 credits, and to try again, all you have to do is regain those 9 credits. If that 2nd "doesn't end until midnight" challenge was Challenge #7, then you would have spent 54 credits (9+12+15+18), and you would have to spend more time gaining back those 54 credits.

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#835990 - Thu Nov 01 2012 06:00 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Buddy1]
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Originally Posted By: Buddy1
I just want to clarify that I mean suppose you buy a challenge and that causes the number of "doesn't end until midnight" challenges to increase to 2. You also don't have your Gold Member swap. All you did was spend 9 credits, and to try again, all you have to do is regain those 9 credits. If that 2nd "doesn't end until midnight" challenge was Challenge #7, then you would have spent 54 credits (9+12+15+18), and you would have to spend more time gaining back those 54 credits.

According to the FAQ page for Daily Challenges, "You can have only one unsolved challenge (failed or still in progress) in your list when you buy a challenge." This means that, no matter how many credits you have available, you cannot make any more purchases if there are still two incomplete ones that won't finish until the end of the day. You have run into a brick wall, and been extremely unlucky.
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#835995 - Thu Nov 01 2012 06:35 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: looney_tunes]
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Yes, but I think what Buddy is saying is that if you get your second midnight challenge earlier, then you will have spent fewer credits in the attempt, and thus will have more available for the next attempt.
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#835996 - Thu Nov 01 2012 06:43 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: reeshy]
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Ah, I see. You're dead in the water that day, but won't have to wait long for your next attempt. And if you had waited until you had an ample cushion, you might even be able to try it the next day.
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#836061 - Fri Nov 02 2012 02:11 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: looney_tunes]
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You've found a box of old photographs. Score at least 7 answers correct in 4 of the following photo quizzes.


But...Two of them aren't old! I saw them go online not long ago! laugh
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#836070 - Fri Nov 02 2012 02:37 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Mariamir]
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They'll be old soon enough. laugh
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#836094 - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:07 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: looney_tunes]
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Re: "Difficult: How well can you string together successes? Play any five tough or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each."

I completed this after several attempts but I don't think I got 5-in-a-row on my last attempt. Don't know if you can check that?


May be a bug. Or may be my mind collapsing.

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#836095 - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:14 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: looney_tunes]
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My Easy challenge was to find a quiz of 20 questions and score at least half right.
I know our team did a 25 question quiz two years ago and so retook that one. The challenge page didn't credit me with a completion. I could find no applicable blurb in the FAQs to explain why not. It leaves me with two(+) questions:
1) Doesn't a 25 question Quiz satisfy the requirement of a 20 q quiz or does it have to be a quiz with exactly 20 and that is why I wasn't credited? Or,
2) Since it was a team quiz, was I blocked somehow for it counting in the challenges even though my name's not in the title? Does the FAQ need to be updated to address the relevance of Team created quizzes? Can authors use their own quizzes to satisfy challenges?
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#836096 - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:21 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: mehaul]
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or does it have to be a quiz with exactly 20


Unless you scored below half, this is the only reason your challenge would not count. The challenge said to find a 20 question quiz and you didn't-- you took a 25 question quiz.

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Does the FAQ need to be updated to address the relevance of Team created quizzes?


No. There is absolutely no difference.


Edited by kyleisalive (Fri Nov 02 2012 05:22 AM)
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#836097 - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:53 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: kyleisalive]
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No difference from self-authored or from quizzes from other authors? I asked whether team quizzes fall into self or other and the reply is no difference? Does that mean they can be counted as both or neither?

On the first one, I thought 15 Qs were good in some cases that asked to get at least 7 correct answers but that most are done using the most prevalent 10Q quizzes. I seem to recall a 15 among a list of 10s in one of my previous challenges. That is what led me to believe a quiz having more Qs than called for was acceptable.

Put another way:
Had our Team quiz been of 20 Q length and I'd gotten them all correct, the challenge would have been satisfied?


Edited by mehaul (Fri Nov 02 2012 05:53 AM)
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#836098 - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:56 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: mehaul]
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No difference from self autrhored or from quizzes from other authors?


I never responded to your question about self-authored quizzes. No-- you will not receive credit for your own quizzes.

You asked about team quizzes-- it being a team quiz has no bearing on whether or not you can complete a challenge with it. It is still a quiz. Even if you wrote one question in it or five or nine or however many, you can still play it and it will count provided, as I already said, you are not the author.

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I seem to recall a 15 among a list of 10s in one of my previous challenges.


It probably wasn't asking for the same thing as this challenge-- there are many different variations; some will give you quizzes to play and some will not.

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Had our Team quiz been of 20 Q length and I'd gotten them all correct, the challenge would have been satisfied?


As long as you weren't the author.
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#836101 - Fri Nov 02 2012 06:54 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: kyleisalive]
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Thank you.
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#836113 - Fri Nov 02 2012 07:32 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: kyleisalive]
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And, from your last query, authors cannot use their own quizzes to satisfy challenges. A team quiz led by someone else is fine, a team quiz led by themselves is registered as their own, and doesn't count.
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#836135 - Fri Nov 02 2012 08:58 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Terry]
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This was one of my challenges today:
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Today you will be playing I'm the Expert! against another player. Whoever holds the highest score today in a single Who's the Expert hourly game at midnight will win this challenge. Only your first 4 plays of this game today will be considered for this challenge, so pick your attempts wisely!
I've played two Expert games and scored quite well in both, but for some reason neither have shown up. I did play them "today" as in "today in FT standard time", so that's not problem. However, I did play them both before checking my daily challenges, so would that have caused this?
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#836182 - Fri Nov 02 2012 11:42 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Daaanieeel]
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mehaul: Correct. It requires a quiz of exactly 20 questions be played.

Daniel: That challenge only counts plays after the challenge is issued.

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#836183 - Fri Nov 02 2012 11:54 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Terry]
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Originally Posted By: Terry
That challenge only counts plays after the challenge is issued.


Is this a new development? When I tested it, it counted plays from before the challenge was issued...
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#836185 - Fri Nov 02 2012 12:19 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: kaddarsgirl]
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I think when we tested it, it did count old scores. Then it was changed to make it more fair, so players wouldn't have submitted four terrible scores randomly, get assigned the challenge, and wish they could pick and choose which ones to play. So it was not like that when we tested, but was changed fairly soon after going online. :P
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#836246 - Fri Nov 02 2012 07:53 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: salami_swami]
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Much obliged L_T and T (sounds like a communication company).
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#836339 - Sat Nov 03 2012 06:59 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: mehaul]
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My Medium challenge says:
Play the Easy Game and score 10/10 within 35.0 seconds. Not beaten yet. Incomplete  

But I have succeeded; Piece of Cake shows 10 correct in 32.99 sec.

It looks like the challenge should be complete.

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#836365 - Sat Nov 03 2012 10:19 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: mdurnanj]
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Originally Posted By: mdurnanj
My Medium challenge says:
Play the Easy Game and score 10/10 within 35.0 seconds. Not beaten yet. Incomplete  

But I have succeeded; Piece of Cake shows 10 correct in 32.99 sec.

It looks like the challenge should be complete.



I played another game a couple of hours later and scored 10/10 in 28.5 sec. This time I was awarded the medium challenge. No idea why it didn't work earlier.

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#836548 - Sun Nov 04 2012 10:02 AM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: sooz888]
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Originally Posted By: sooz888
Thanks to Mariamir for that, but sadly, I'd already used my 'perk' and switched off the Difficult Challenge on the Crystal Ball. I knew from experience that my chances of winning that today were slim to none... at least it would have kept some hope alive. I'll save it next time.... maybe I was just unlucky?

sooz


This is why when I decided to do my quest for the 10 in a Day i chose a day just after I'd had Crystal Ball. Strategy in when to go for the badge plays a big part in winning it, making sure the challenges that you are bad appear in the day or two beforehand lessens the probability they'll pop up and destroy your challenge.

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#836667 - Sun Nov 04 2012 07:23 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Starlord]
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This isn't an actual bug, but it bugged me.

My medium challenge was to play New Questions and score 331 points. I scored 330. mad mad mad

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#836668 - Sun Nov 04 2012 08:40 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: George95]
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That does bring up something interesting. My difficult challenge (or rather my bought difficult challenge) was to score at least 1428 points in today's The Daily Game - using the TIMED mode. If I was to get exactly 1428 points, would that count? I would assume yes, but I just want to make sure.

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#836672 - Sun Nov 04 2012 09:05 PM Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions [Re: Buddy1]
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Originally Posted By: Buddy1
That does bring up something interesting. My difficult challenge (or rather my bought difficult challenge) was to score at least 1428 points in today's The Daily Game - using the TIMED mode. If I was to get exactly 1428 points, would that count? I would assume yes, but I just want to make sure.


Yes it counts anything above and including the number listed. It's the equivalent of the "greater than or equal to" in math.
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