#830431 - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:45 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: malik24]
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Just made sure Malik and yes it is. I've refreshed, logged out and back in. No change. 
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#830434 - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:53 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: Julia103]
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Prolific
Registered: Wed Jun 27 2012
Posts: 1003
Loc: Ohio USA
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Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them.
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not: I played a quiz which I had previously played (and presumably rated at the time). It was counted toward the challenge. If the point is to increase the ratings for these quizzes, then playing something that you have already rated shouldn't count because rating the quiz again won't increase the number of ratings. On the other hand, if the main point is to create a scavenger hunt and low number of ratings is just something to find, then it doesn't really matter. The point is to increase the number of ratings, as well as be a fun little hunt for you. If the intermediate page after the answers page said at the top that you were given 20 points, then you had not previously rated it and therefore it should have counted. If, however, you rated it, and the intermediate page did not award you 20 points and thank you for your rating, then it is in fact a glitch and should not have been counted. Terry would need to take a look at that point.
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#830442 - Mon Oct 08 2012 11:40 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: Terry]
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Thanks for the link Terry. Bizarrely the computer is telling me it Is upgraded but I'm still having problems. This is my work computer. I'll play around with it and see if I can see anything else. I'll try the Mac later, when I'm home. I'm sure it will be okay! 
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#830443 - Mon Oct 08 2012 11:47 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: kaddarsgirl]
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Registered: Sun Apr 19 2009
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Loc: Athens Georgia USA
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If, however, you rated it, and the intermediate page did not award you 20 points and thank you for your rating, then it is in fact a glitch and should not have been counted. Terry would need to take a look at that point. Well, no, not by the terms of the challenge. It requires you to take the quiz and rate it -- it doesn't specify that the quiz be one you haven't previously taken or rated. I presume that the coding for this challenge just looks at the number of ratings and whether a rating is submitted, so awarding credit in this situation doesn't seem to be an error. If the intent is for the qualifying quizzes to only include quizzes the player hasn't played before, the challenge should so specify. Incidentally, this challenge has been one of my favorites. I was glad to see that the bottom limit on ratings was removed when I got it the second time (the first time I got it the qualifying quizzes were ones who had from "20 to 50 ratings" rather than just "under 50 ratings").
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#830514 - Tue Oct 09 2012 08:56 AM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: Terry]
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Participant
Registered: Wed May 30 2012
Posts: 13
Loc: Wiltshire UK
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I have just tried to buy another challenge, but am being advised "You cannot buy any more challenges right now as you have more than 1 incomplete challenge".
One of my challenges is .... "You must end today as one of your team's heroes in the Team Hero game". I've completed the challenge and feel confident of being successful, but of course the result cannot be determined before the close of the FT day.
My query is ... if I'm ever allocated more than one similar 'daily' challenge on any one day it will be impossible to buy additional challenges on that day, although I'm guessing this scenario may have already been dealt with in the schedule?
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#830523 - Tue Oct 09 2012 10:34 AM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: abechstein]
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Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969
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If, however, you rated it, and the intermediate page did not award you 20 points and thank you for your rating, then it is in fact a glitch and should not have been counted. Terry would need to take a look at that point. Well, no, not by the terms of the challenge. It requires you to take the quiz and rate it -- it doesn't specify that the quiz be one you haven't previously taken or rated. I presume that the coding for this challenge just looks at the number of ratings and whether a rating is submitted, so awarding credit in this situation doesn't seem to be an error. If the intent is for the qualifying quizzes to only include quizzes the player hasn't played before, the challenge should so specify. Incidentally, this challenge has been one of my favorites. I was glad to see that the bottom limit on ratings was removed when I got it the second time (the first time I got it the qualifying quizzes were ones who had from "20 to 50 ratings" rather than just "under 50 ratings"). It is a technical issue that will remain the way it is by design. In short, the system has no idea WHEN you rated a quiz. It just knows that (a) you played quiz X today and (b) it has been rated by you some time in the past. As pointed out, this will sometimes give credit for quizzes rated a long time ago. In the spirit of the challenge I encourage you to try to play and rate quizzes you have never played before for that challenge.
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#830524 - Tue Oct 09 2012 10:37 AM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: moonraker2]
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I have just tried to buy another challenge, but am being advised "You cannot buy any more challenges right now as you have more than 1 incomplete challenge".
One of my challenges is .... "You must end today as one of your team's heroes in the Team Hero game". I've completed the challenge and feel confident of being successful, but of course the result cannot be determined before the close of the FT day.
My query is ... if I'm ever allocated more than one similar 'daily' challenge on any one day it will be impossible to buy additional challenges on that day, although I'm guessing this scenario may have already been dealt with in the schedule? Right now it is possible to receive 2 challenges that complete at midnight. So yes, you may find yourself in a situation that you complete 9 challenges in a day and through no fault of your own are unable to purchase a tenth. I suppose I could change the "purcahse" process to ignore challenges that complete at midnight when determining is incomplete or not if we needed to.
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#830530 - Tue Oct 09 2012 11:15 AM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: salami_swami]
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Mainstay
Registered: Tue Aug 11 2009
Posts: 727
Loc: Glasgow Scotland UK
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I'm working on my difficult challenge: Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score at least 9 questions correct in any quiz in 17 different categories (Animals, Brain Teasers, Geography, etc). You may replay quizzes not taken in the past 30 days. I mistakenly thought it was 10 correct when I was completing History, so ended up doing two separate quizzes that qualified, so now I have two ticks for History instead of just one, so it's counting it as two categories. Just to let you know. 
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#830536 - Tue Oct 09 2012 12:24 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: Terry]
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Mainstay
Registered: Thu Jan 15 2009
Posts: 608
Loc: New York USA
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I traded in my difficult challenge and got the one about going up against someone in Expert. You are only allowed to use your first four scores of the day against your opponent. I had already played three times and those scores show up for me. Admittedly, they are not my best scores. Shouldn't those not be counted since it tells me to pick wisely? That is kind of like Ex Post Trivus where I am being punished for something I did before the law/game came into effect. Maybe it is a bug and maybe it is not. I thought I would point that out. For 95% of challenges, we do look "at the whole day" to determine scores, and for most there are very good reasons. This one, though, is both fairly easy for me to change to look at only your first 4 expert scores AFTER you get it. I think doing that would make that challenge a little more interesting. I just purchased this challenge, and it is still counting games from before the buy. I wasn't sure if you had decided to actually make the change, but, if you did, it isn't working.
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#830551 - Tue Oct 09 2012 01:31 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: bubblesfun]
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Registered: Thu Sep 27 2012
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Loc: Missouri USA
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I managed to get the same difficult challenge as Reeshy, and it worked fine for me. I was able to test it, as I had to get 66 questions right in one of the categories for the Medium, and a perfect score on an Average or higher rated quiz for the Easy. This was a very nice set, and a great way to help a new gold member (me) explore the quiz categories of the site.
One minor suggestion, for a difficult challenge, being able to get 9 questions right on even Very Easy rated quizzes seems exceptionally simple. Compared to a lot of other difficult challenges this seems trivial in comparison. My suggestion is to keep it at 9 or more questions right in 12 categories, BUT, to make the quizzes need to be Average or higher in rating. Very Easy and Easy seem not in line with a difficult challenge, in my humble opinion.
I doubt I will have as many "themed" days as I did today, but, as I said, it was a great tour of the site. Neat that it worked out that way today.
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#830558 - Tue Oct 09 2012 01:44 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: bushidox]
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Registered: Wed Oct 15 2008
Posts: 459
Loc: Arkansas USA
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I would just view it as one of the cases in which a Difficult task is not that difficult--just like there are some tasks that to some people may be anything but easy.
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#830560 - Tue Oct 09 2012 01:50 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: bubblesfun]
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Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969
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I traded in my difficult challenge and got the one about going up against someone in Expert. You are only allowed to use your first four scores of the day against your opponent. I had already played three times and those scores show up for me. Admittedly, they are not my best scores. Shouldn't those not be counted since it tells me to pick wisely? That is kind of like Ex Post Trivus where I am being punished for something I did before the law/game came into effect. Maybe it is a bug and maybe it is not. I thought I would point that out. For 95% of challenges, we do look "at the whole day" to determine scores, and for most there are very good reasons. This one, though, is both fairly easy for me to change to look at only your first 4 expert scores AFTER you get it. I think doing that would make that challenge a little more interesting. I just purchased this challenge, and it is still counting games from before the buy. I wasn't sure if you had decided to actually make the change, but, if you did, it isn't working. No changes made yet -- I'll add them in starting tomorrow.
Edited by Terry (Tue Oct 09 2012 01:54 PM)
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#830630 - Tue Oct 09 2012 07:02 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: WesleyCrusher]
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Registered: Sun Jan 31 2010
Posts: 851
Loc: Nebraska USA
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How well can you string together successes? Play any six tough or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.
The quiz listed at the bottom was played first. (How Far Would You Go? - Part 2:) The next six were all rated as "Tough", and I scored at least an 8 or better on the other six.
Thanks.
Closest attempt today: 3 in a row.
Quizzes you have played today, in order:
"M*A*S*H" Season 6: "Fallen Idol":
3.18 "Stirred":
3.15 "Hartsfield's Landing":
3.6 "War Crimes":
3.4 "Ways and Means":
Let's Eat at 'the West Wing': Season 3:
How Far Would You Go? - Part 2: Not the required difficulty
Incomplete
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#830637 - Tue Oct 09 2012 07:39 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: cubswin2323]
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#830646 - Tue Oct 09 2012 09:25 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: Terry]
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Registered: Sun Jan 31 2010
Posts: 851
Loc: Nebraska USA
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Thanks for the fix.
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#830689 - Wed Oct 10 2012 09:11 AM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: fredsixties]
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Prolific
Registered: Wed Jun 27 2012
Posts: 1003
Loc: Ohio USA
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It is impossible to get inot the "Ask a Question" section today. That is my easy challenge for today..not so easy.. What do you mean? Do you mean for asking a question, or for answering a question? If it's the latter, there are two new unanswered questions you could try!
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#830696 - Wed Oct 10 2012 11:26 AM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: bushidox]
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Registered: Tue Aug 11 2009
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I managed to get the same difficult challenge as Reeshy, and it worked fine for me. It did work for me, but the bug is that it was registering the same category multiple times, so theoretically it seems I could have done all 17 quizzes in the same category and received credit.
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#830709 - Wed Oct 10 2012 12:23 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: reeshy]
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Registered: Wed Jun 27 2012
Posts: 1003
Loc: Ohio USA
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My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit?
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#830712 - Wed Oct 10 2012 12:31 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: kaddarsgirl]
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Registered: Wed Oct 15 2008
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My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit? Why not just consider it one of the "easy" difficult challenges? Also, how is this any different than (for example) playing games in the same division as champions or aganist players of lower levels?
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#830723 - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:10 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: Buddy1]
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Registered: Tue Jul 04 2006
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My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit? Why not just consider it one of the "easy" difficult challenges? Also, how is this any different than (for example) playing games in the same division as champions or aganist players of lower levels? I agree with Buddy on this one. I got a Nemesis once on a day when I really had no time at all to play the required amount to amass points. Luck of the draw. I was probably looked at as the "favorite" that day in terms of being Gold and my level, but my Nemesis won. You never know what someone's situation might be. Sue edited to eliminate a rather unfortunate and unintentionally self-aggrandizing typo
Edited by shuehorn (Wed Oct 10 2012 08:45 PM)
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#830735 - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:31 PM
Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions
[Re: shuehorn]
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Registered: Fri Jul 15 2011
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I also think that the luck of the draw is just part of the challenge. The fun of the unknown!  But! Maybe I will feel differently after several draws pair me against unbeatable fiendish champion scorers, lol!. Maybe it's something that can be reviewed after a few weeks when people have had multiple shots at it.
Edited by Chavs (Wed Oct 10 2012 02:35 PM)
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