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#966120 - Fri Feb 08 2013 11:47 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
superfan123 Offline
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predeterminaation means "a mental determination or resolve in advance"
conclusion means "a position or opinion or judgment reached after consideration"

Predeterminaation? There are two 'A's.

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#967268 - Wed Feb 13 2013 07:20 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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fingerprint is related to black and white

fingerprint means "biometric identification from a print made by an impression of the ridges in the skin of a finger"
black and white means "the result of the printing process"

I think that's a different type of printing process.

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#967273 - Wed Feb 13 2013 08:24 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I had the same issue, Tim. I was going to post here, but I know there are all kinds of quirky definitions that are paired together in MM. I have resigned myself to the fact that you just have to guess wildly sometimes. (a lot)

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#967699 - Sat Feb 16 2013 10:08 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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It's tenuous, but it's the third section, the "related to" column, which doesn't have to be exact definitions. I don't think it's completely out of the ballpark to link fingerprinting with the printing process - they both use ink to create an image on paper. Like I say, it's a bit of a tenuous link, and the third section can be frustrating in this way, but I don't think it's completely wacky. smile
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#967848 - Sun Feb 17 2013 11:55 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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killer is related to individual
You said: adult
killer means "someone who causes the death of a person or animal"
individual means "a human being"

pacifist is related to adult
You said: individual
pacifist means "someone opposed to violence as a means of settling disputes"
adult means "a fully developed person from maturity onward"


Any suggestions on why these match up this way instead of the other way around?

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#970487 - Tue Mar 05 2013 05:58 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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retreated is related to people



You said: fall away

retreated means "people who have retreated"
people means "(plural) any group of human beings (men or women or children) collectively"


In this instance, Mind Melt used "retreated" as a noun, but did not specify the usage. Retreated as a verb means to draw back, make a retreat, withdraw. Maybe inserting a (v) or (n) after the word that is to be defined would give the player more information to interpret the proper definition. I'm not an English major, so I might be totally wrong about this. Am I totally off-base?

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#971222 - Sat Mar 09 2013 05:14 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I've finally had enough of Mind Melt's shoddy definitions and am going to stop playing this game, unless forced to by the Challenges.

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#971237 - Sat Mar 09 2013 09:01 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I agree that they are frustrating. Today's set for me had killer/slayer to match with regicide/executioner. The definitions for killer and slayer were identical, so it really was pot luck - for once, I did get lucky. Yesterday, I had something similar and guessed the wrong way around, but I have learned to shrug my shoulders. On balance, I enjoy the game, despite the anomalies, so would not want to give it up.

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#971252 - Sat Mar 09 2013 10:20 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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The imprecision or vagueness or occasional wild guess in the third section is, for me, part of the charm of the game. It is an entertaining blend of knowledge, logic, and having the Force be with you.

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#971257 - Sat Mar 09 2013 10:51 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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The two word words or phrases were setup and device and the answers were corrective and pendulum

setup means "equipment designed to serve a specific function"
device means "an instrumentality invented for a particular purpose"

Those definitions looks identical to me, just phrased differently. Maybe in future I should answer the same for both definitions when these dubious definitions come up, that way I'd only get one wrong.

Definitions of the answer options: -
corrective means "a device for treating injury or disease"
pendulum means "an apparatus consisting of an object mounted so that it swings freely under the influence of gravity"

Pendulum meets both criteria, but something that is corrective does not have to be a device.

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#971298 - Sat Mar 09 2013 01:11 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: mdurnanj]
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Doesn't have to, but sometimes is.

And that's the way the game works mostly, I find - not on exclusive or narrow definitions, but on relations & connections between words, and usually I rely on the process of elimination. Sometimes frustrating, I agree, but more often than not when I find something difficult, I can see in hindsight how I could have (and should have) seen the connection.
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Originally Posted By: mdurnanj
The imprecision or vagueness or occasional wild guess in the third section is, for me, part of the charm of the game. It is an entertaining blend of knowledge, logic, and having the Force be with you.


Yes, that's exactly how I feel about it too. It's my favourite game here and I wish it would run more than once a day. smile


Edited by Chavs (Sat Mar 09 2013 01:23 PM)

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#972504 - Thu Mar 14 2013 08:26 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I swore I wouldn't post again here about the sometimes-insane matches, since it's about as effective as beating my head against the wall, but this one is beyond the pale:

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juke house is related to marijuana cigarette

You said: dancing

juke house means "a small roadside establishment in the southeastern United States where you can eat and drink and dance to music provided by a jukebox"

marijuana cigarette means "marijuana leaves rolled into a cigarette for smoking"

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Knowing that sometimes there might be more to a definition in the database than is displayed, I searched some online dictionaries (especially freedictionary.org, the usual source of these), but I could not find any definition of "juke house" which even mentions "marijuana cigarette". This match strains even the ill-defined boundaries of the third section.

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#972521 - Thu Mar 14 2013 10:17 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I dug around, and found a reference to synonyms of juke house including juke joint - I reckon that's the connection with marijuana.
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#972524 - Thu Mar 14 2013 10:36 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Meh. The game was obviously created to aggravate. 'Tis trivial. I'm sure at least none of us have dedicated the OED to memory. I have decided in the past few months that the computer thinks I know too much about "ordinary" words, so I get way too many medical terms.

I have learned a good deal, though: the best thing is that I'm not a hypochondriac. I think. Maybe.

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#972531 - Fri Mar 15 2013 12:18 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Medical terms are usually good, as they stand out. I got three of them, two that were completely interchangeable, in a recent set, which was rather irritating. But it's the game. I actually really like the strangeness of some of the associations, and the chance to think laterally instead of producing reflex responses. And when I don't get the association in Part 3, it's really fun exploring around to see how it can link.
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#972553 - Fri Mar 15 2013 05:58 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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The worst thing is when you get the name of a drug you recognise because you're taking it - trust me, when the drug has a name long enough to get into Mind Melt you know you're not well. wink
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#972578 - Fri Mar 15 2013 09:18 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
I dug around, and found a reference to synonyms of juke house including juke joint - I reckon that's the connection with marijuana.


That's like matching "The White House" with "diagnostics" because of the TV show "House, M.D.".

It would be one thing if the given phrase was "juke joint", but it wasn't. "Dancing" is clearly a better match with "juke house" than "marijuana cigarette".

Originally Posted By: bitterlyold
I'm sure at least none of us have dedicated the OED to memory.


That would probably put one at a disadvantage in this game...

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#972580 - Fri Mar 15 2013 09:43 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: looney_tunes]
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Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
I dug around, and found a reference to synonyms of juke house including juke joint - I reckon that's the connection with marijuana.


And that works if 'joint' is used to mean a disreputable place, like 'I walked into the joint'. But this misrepresents the idea and uses a completely different meaning for 'joint' which doesn't work as a match. Neither juke house or juke joint have anything to do with marijuana.


Edited by ssabreman (Fri Mar 15 2013 09:45 AM)

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#972604 - Fri Mar 15 2013 12:25 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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And you know this because...? I have done some of my best dancing after exposure to juke something. smile
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#973049 - Tue Mar 19 2013 08:08 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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"Sultanate" and "renegade state" were in the third section of the Mind Melt game I played today, and choices to match them up included "country" and "res publica". It appears that either of the first two would fit with either of the last two. Am I missing something here?

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#975146 - Sat Mar 30 2013 05:28 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: chessart]
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Don't quite get it........or maybe I do? I have just scored 27/30.........fair enough, but.............

In definitions I got one wrong........now unless an answer accepts two different definitions given, surely it is impossible to get ONE wrong, because if one is then another must also be wrong?

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#975147 - Sat Mar 30 2013 06:20 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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You can have swapped definitions between three questions.
Or, as I have done on occasion, you may have selected the same answer twice.

Just checked, I've scored 27 twice in the last week. smile


Edited by Jabberwok (Sat Mar 30 2013 06:23 AM)
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#975151 - Sat Mar 30 2013 07:12 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I've done even worse - I reached a score of 29/30 on several occasions. As Jabberwok pointed out, it's quite easy to select the same answer twice (wittingly or inadvertently).
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#975165 - Sat Mar 30 2013 08:07 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Yup, done that too. smile
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#975167 - Sat Mar 30 2013 08:36 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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What's annoying is when I want to change my answer to 1, and I change it to 10 instead.

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#975269 - Sat Mar 30 2013 03:54 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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That misclick giving 29 is especially galling when a Daily Challenge is to get at least 30 out of 30 - that will be the one day in the week when I don't do it. frown
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#975568 - Mon Apr 01 2013 10:02 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Best time ever (118) in Mind Melt. 6th overall for the site. 93 melting points. That ain't right. I targeted this month to get a top ten finish. I think it should be an overall score (2764 X 30 for example) that counts toward a monthly badge. I know some people will say "not everybody has the same set of questions". So what? I don't know what group I am lumped into, but even a sub 200 second score will rarely get you into the 25th percentile in the sets I have been competing against. Thoughts?

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#975594 - Tue Apr 02 2013 06:00 AM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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I have been able to get 3 correct in a really quick time.
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#975870 - Wed Apr 03 2013 03:32 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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negativism is related to quality

negativism means "characterized by habitual skepticism and a tendency to deny or oppose or resist suggestions or commands"
quality means "an essential and distinguishing attribute of something or someone"

Aren't these opposite in meaning? Or do we say a person's qualities include their lying, cheating and slothfulness. Characteristics or traits, but not qualities.

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#975886 - Wed Apr 03 2013 04:15 PM Re: Mind Melt - Content Issues [Re: JMElston]
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Qualities need not be positive. The word is sometimes used in that sense, but it need not be at all.
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