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#963710 - Sun Jan 27 2013 11:48 AM Quiz topic: Government
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I find often when I play the topic labeled government, it is 14 out of 15 questions american government. I suggest this topic is broken into two sub-topics. American Government and World Government. While all you americans out there may not understand why, the rest of the world often doesn't know the particulars of presidential pet names or which department someone headed in 1932. Conversely, americans often don't know particulars of french arrondissements administration. I like playing the team trivia quizzes, but when it is one labeled government I know it is american government, and I will do badly. It would be easier to make quiz choices if they were labeled a bit better.


Edited by hazelpethig (Sun Jan 27 2013 11:48 AM)

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#963714 - Sun Jan 27 2013 12:06 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I think you may enjoy this thread: http://www.funtrivia.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/200874/Americacentricity_of_quizzes#Post200874

We certainly support the addition of more quizzes to dilute a highly US-centric question base, but we can't do it alone. smile
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#963715 - Sun Jan 27 2013 12:06 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I think you were just unlucky. I had several questions about British government in my set, as well as American questions.

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#963725 - Sun Jan 27 2013 12:33 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I had four British and an Australian.

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#963742 - Sun Jan 27 2013 01:24 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I had at least two British questions, one Aussie question (which I almost got wrong!), and the final question was Indian. smile
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#963745 - Sun Jan 27 2013 01:25 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I had fourteen Americans and one Churchill, which as Churchill is the only British politician Americans know anything about doesn't count. wink

Stick with it, hazelpethig - I have learned a huge number of useless facts about American politics since the Heroes game was introduced and I'm sure the information will come in useful for a pub quiz some day. All I need to do now is to start taking pub quizzes...
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#963746 - Sun Jan 27 2013 01:27 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: flopsymopsy]
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Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
I had fourteen Americans and one Churchill, which as Churchill is the only British politician Americans know anything about doesn't count. wink


Oh, come on now. We know Thatcher too. lol

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#963749 - Sun Jan 27 2013 01:29 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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How many times has this arisen, in pretty much every category in Funtrivia? The solution is oh so simple... Just author more non-US based quizzes. It's not rocket science! LOL

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#963764 - Sun Jan 27 2013 01:53 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Take a look at the category and the quizzes in it. In fact, you don't have to, I did for you. Almost 2/3 of all quizzes under government are about the US government.

This is exactly the same discussion we just had about the Star Wars/Scifi thing, along with the Music Awards/Eurovision and Card Games/MtG.

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#963786 - Sun Jan 27 2013 02:35 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Originally Posted By: hazelpethig
While all you americans out there may not understand why, the rest of the world often doesn't know the particulars of presidential pet names or which department someone headed in 1932.


I doubt very many Americans know any of that. Some questions are obscure, some questions are very specific and some are downright stupid. That doesn't mean that every American knows them and no-one else does.

I don't know the exact date Churchill was appointed Prime Minister or whether he had any pets (although I doubt he did) and he's the most famous prime minister England have ever had.

So maybe the questions are biased towards America, but that doesn't mean that every American knows the answer to every question about America.
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#963799 - Sun Jan 27 2013 02:56 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I hardly know that, Adams, so you're right. I stink at anything government or history... So being American, British, or whatever, really doesn't matter to me. wink
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#963817 - Sun Jan 27 2013 05:53 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: AdamM7]
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Originally Posted By: AdamM7


I don't know the exact date Churchill was appointed Prime Minister or whether he had any pets (although I doubt he did) and he's the most famous prime minister England have ever had.



Churchill had a dog and also an African Grey parrot that was reputed to have lived to the age of 106.

I got 14 USA questions and one other - Israeli I think, BTW
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#963853 - Sun Jan 27 2013 10:24 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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The United States is a country with over 312 million people. The British Commonwealth? Much less.
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#963855 - Sun Jan 27 2013 11:13 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: cubswin2323]
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Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
The United States is a country with over 312 million people. The British Commonwealth? Much less.


I don't think so, considering that India is part of the Commonwealth, along with over 50 other member states. Wiki gives the population estimate (2005) at 2.1 billion.

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#963856 - Sun Jan 27 2013 11:30 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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What Dave meant to say was that the United States is a country with over 312 million people who speak English and can easily understand and submit stuff to this site.

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#963867 - Mon Jan 28 2013 12:15 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Most of the members of the Commonwealth speak English too, and are perfectly capable of doing those things. Many of them, or should I say us, do.


Edited by spanishliz (Mon Jan 28 2013 12:25 AM)

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#963872 - Mon Jan 28 2013 02:18 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: nautilator]
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Originally Posted By: nautilator
What Dave meant to say was that the United States is a country with over 312 million people who speak English and can easily understand and submit stuff to this site.


Yeah, that's a big fat no on that.

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#963878 - Mon Jan 28 2013 04:59 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Going back to the original post in the thread ...

If you never want to see this category again in Team Heroes, just write a quiz (American or not). The Government category is at 999 quizzes and 1000 is the magic number that gets a category removed from Team Heroes/Who's The Expert completely.

P.S. The upper limit might actually be 1001, so it might take 2 quizzes.


Edited by DomiNeyTor (Mon Jan 28 2013 05:02 AM)
Edit Reason: typo
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#963909 - Mon Jan 28 2013 06:46 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Is it Domineytor? Where does that info come from?


Edited by Snowman (Mon Jan 28 2013 07:44 AM)
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#963910 - Mon Jan 28 2013 06:49 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: cubswin2323]
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Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
The United States is a country with over 312 million people. The British Commonwealth? Much less.


In my opinion, it's the lack of awareness of world affairs demonstrated by that comment that indicates a need for a wider range of questions - but if they're not there, it makes them hard to ask.

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#963947 - Mon Jan 28 2013 10:35 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Having spoken to the World editors, I'm pleased to announce that a small challenge will emerge in the Author's Lounge today encouraging quiz-writing in the less-filled Government sections. smile
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#963955 - Mon Jan 28 2013 11:25 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: spanishliz]
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Originally Posted By: spanishliz
Most of the members of the Commonwealth speak English too, and are perfectly capable of doing those things. Many of them, or should I say us, do.

Many do not, and capable is not the same as actually doing it, what with the whole 'you have to know about this site, frequent it, and contribute to it' deal. You can tell by how relatively few non-American quizzes there are in the government category. Are you intentionally being obtuse on this or do you actually not understand that point?


Edited by nautilator (Mon Jan 28 2013 11:29 AM)

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#963956 - Mon Jan 28 2013 11:29 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Nautilator, you are being naughty
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#963964 - Mon Jan 28 2013 11:49 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: Snowman]
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Originally Posted By: Snowman
Is it Domineytor? Where does that info come from?


I've not heard this either, but it'd be a shame since it'd mean that Thematic Fun would be omitted from both games (as of last year-ish).
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#963969 - Mon Jan 28 2013 11:59 AM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: nautilator]
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Nautilator, you are being naughty


More than naughty. Keep it civil, please.

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#963975 - Mon Jan 28 2013 12:08 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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DomiNeyTor has told me of this 1001 thing as well.

I have not heard such a thing either, but when he told me, I did notice the same pattern; categories seem to drop off at 1,001 and they appear when they reach 30 or 31.

I did not realize it was this way for Team Heroes; I only knew of this occurrence in the Expert game.
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#964005 - Mon Jan 28 2013 01:05 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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I think we have so many more quizzes about US government than other governments for a couple of reasons.

One is sheer force of numbers - we have more American members than any other nationality. This means we'll have more American quizzes.

Another is the focus of education in different countries. Many of our younger members tend to write quizzes on what they are studying in school. From what I understand, there is a far greater focus on internal matters in American Social Studies programs than there may be in other countries. In Canada, it's usual to focus on Canadian government for one year in elementary school, and then maybe once more in high school. The rest of the time, the kids are learning about other countries, or other issues. From what I've been told, that is not so much the case in the US. So it's natural that American quizwriters will write about their government, as it's more on their radar.

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#964009 - Mon Jan 28 2013 01:24 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Unfortunately for us US kids, at least for me, I was never taught about worldly matters. Everything is very Americanized. It wasn't until FunTrivia that I learned about anything outside the US. Even the one course I had called "World History" was about the world's history with becoming the United States.

The US, I swear; so self-centered. I wish I lived elsewhere. I don't like this US label I've got. :P
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#964010 - Mon Jan 28 2013 01:32 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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salami, every country has a label of some sort. I'm an Aussie so I'm a beer swilling oaf who can barely put two words together other than "Your shout". The country of my ancestors is known for being insular and unfriendly at first. I hope I'm in the middle somewhere. wink You couldn't have found a better place to learn about the world, meet people from everywhere, and defy your image, mate! smile
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#964011 - Mon Jan 28 2013 01:34 PM Re: Quiz topic: Government [Re: hazelpethig]
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Thanks, Tizz. smile That makes me feel better. lol
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