A question that I authored in this quiz that ran in August 2011 has now reappeared in a New Question quiz that ran today.

Has recycling old questions become the norm?

Sometimes questions are recycled because they didn't get as many plays back then. Perhaps this is what happened with your question. Of course, probably only terry can say for sure... That was simply my best theory... So don't quote me on it. :-P

If it was taken out because of a correction note, it may then go back into the new game, because it has just come back online. This applies even if no change was made because of the correction.

I've reported this before but will try again. When you try to access the new question quiz from the challenge page, the following text shows:

"Requirements:

Awarded to all players scoring 10/10 in 90 seconds in the periodically appearing New Question game.

Reward is automatically given out immediately upon completion.


Starting Point: You can try here.

Winners: Total: 1722. Last winner was shaokipp. "

The problem is that the link for "you can try here" does not lead to the New Question Quiz, it leads to the page for creating new questions for submission (http://www.funtrivia.com/questionpost.cfm).

This fix seems like it should be rather easy, to redirect the link to the appropriate page, which is http://www.funtrivia.com/today/.

Thanks,

Sue

Hmm, I never noticed that. Good catch Sue. I'm sure that's an easy fix for Terry.

That's what I'm hoping. I know I can go there on the home page, but sometimes I navigate to the challenges I still have to conquer from teh challenge page, and that one always takes me to the wrong place.

Shu'nuff Shuehorn, it's not the area of FT you want to venture into without an escort. To find yourself in the middle of it alone must be very frightening indeed!

Mehaul, shuehorn is already over level 100 - she should be able to deal with any random encounter over there

She has a FT Blackbelt? I'll have to remember that the next time her alias comes up in a Fantasy KO. (RoFBaB - Rolling on Floor Black and Blue)

You guys are too silly!

I'm quite fond of silly myself ~

Just reporting this one again, since it seems to have fallen through the cracks.

Thanks,

Sue

Resurrecting this one again. Is it harder to redirect this link than it looks?

Sue

Please let me know if my query is not being understood or if for some reason it is impossible to correct this link. I suppose it will stop bothering me if I can ever get this challenge done! Then I won't have a reason to click on the misdirecting link.

When I go to the open challenge list, and click on incomplete to see what I have left to do, there is a link to play the New Question Game and get the Achievement badge. When I click on the link, it does not take me to the Quiz, it takes me to the New Question Submission Page. If the right link cannot be added, at the least the wrong link should be removed. When it says "You can try here", it really isn't true.

Here are the links in question:

The link for "you can try here" leading misleadingly to the page for new question submissions (http://www.funtrivia.com/questionpost.cfm).

The correct link that does lead to the new question game, which is http://www.funtrivia.com/today/.

Thanks,

Sue

I just got a Challenge today that asked me to score a particular number in the New Question Quiz, and it is one of the few Daily Challenges where the name of the quiz is not a link. I had to go to the home page and click on the quiz from there. This is making me think that there is something strange about the link. Is it a complex thing to insert it?

Sue

Lots of views of this question, but no answer.

I am more annoyed because I had yet another question in NQ that was absolutely incorrect. A team game should not have a variable where the questions can be wrong.

With the daily challenges there have been a lot more questions submitted to the system of late. Being a Brit a lot of questions are very Obscure to me when they have a US bias, but I have never moaned about this and just got on with playing and learning. The response has always been on the Forums for us Brits to stop moaning and submit more questions to even the bias out, which is what I have been doing. I recently submitted a question to the New Question Bank and it was rejected as being to obscure for this site, now in the UK the question would not be obscure at all, in fact it would probably be in the very easy category over here, it may be a challenge to some of the players over the pond, but no more obscure than some we Brits are asked to answer on a daily basis. When I queried this with the Editor I was told Terry had instructed all Editors to not accept obscure questions, what is obscure I ask, for what is easy to one person may be obscure to another, obviously there are some that are obscure to all. If my question had gone to a UK Editor for TV it may have been accepted.

After serving 23 years in the British Army I consider myself to be a bit of an expert on the British Army and yet yesterday in my New Question Quiz there was a question about the British Army that even I had to guess at, so anyone without experience in the Army or at least British would have very little idea about this question and in my view this was a very obscure question, the question was

Inspired by the Cardwell reforms, the Leicestershire regiment was renamed from which regiment of the line?
Sixth
Twenty-first
Seventeenth
Eleventh

Luckily I guessed right but it was a guess not knowledge, but surely there must be some consistency to what questions are accepted, or do we re-jig old questions or have Ricky Martin as the answer to more than 3/10 questions in a quiz, or is a question only Obscure when it has a British bias.

The question in question was

Who lived at 23 Railway Cuttings East Cheam?

I have had a lot more obscure questions about US TV series that are not even shown in the UK than that.

I have queried in the past why New Questions are accepted that do not meet the criteria as laid out and was shot down then about my views and I expect to be shot down now as well, but thought it was a point I should raise for my own peace of mind.

I would just like to point out the last thing I am doing is having a go at any of the Editors as they all do an extremely good job and for very little reward. I normally feel sorry for them when they have one of my questions to edit as my spelling and grammar are not the greatest as anyone who knows me will bear witness to.

Please, no more British Railway questions!


(Answer: Tony Hancock)

Yes the Railway questions are quite obscure even to us Brits, unless you sit at the end of a platform in your anorak, although I must admit when I first submitted some questions one of them was about Bristol Temple Meads station

I can't believe the "Railway Cuttings East Cheam" question got rejected on the grounds of obscurity. As you say, that isn't at all difficult to fans of great comedy - British or American.

I agree, Stedman, not difficult at all!

When the NQ Game started I submitted my first ever FT question, about the epic race between Coe, Cram and Ovett at the Los Angeles Olympics. I chose that race quite deliberately because LA is in the USA and surely some Americans would have watched one of the most epic athletic battles of recent times in their own backyard even if the main contenders were all Brits. Apparently not, the question was rejected as "too obscure". Eat your heart out, Seb Coe - you may be the only man ever to win the 1500m at two successive Olympics but according to FT, you're obscure.

Edited for tyopses.

We have to accept that editors are human, and may believe something is too obscure when they personally know nothing about it. I once had a question asking about which sport would use an epee and foil rejected for obscurity, which I thought was rather harsh. I knew the answer to 'Railway Cuttings' too, but maybe anyone in their twenties would be as baffled as I am when asked about the real name of some rap artist who has not (thankfully) appeared on my radar.

Written while sitting at Lime Street station...

I would not have rejected that TV question and almost never reject any based on difficulty (unless it's something about a very specific scene from a very specific episode of a show; single Qs are not the place for these) because who knows how difficult people will find it?

Now, had it been accepted and gone through the game, chances are it would have gotten quite a low % answering correctly. Even general TV questions on wildly famous shows aired all over the planet often do. Many people will see it who have never seen the show at all and will have no idea as to the answer. I generally do lets these types of questions through though to see how they fare in the game, even if its obscure to me when I see the question as an editor

Having thought a bit more about this, one of the things that a good FT question can do is inform, as well as just test one's knowledge. All historians of broadcast comedy agree that Tony Hancock was a seminal figure, and the fact that he lived at that address was a well-known and important part of the character, often mentioned for the sake of a laugh at his expense (such a boring suburban address being so at odds with his inflated opinion of himself). It's not like asking an obscure point of detail, mentioned in a single half-hour show.

And of course, even if the player got the question wrong, the "interesting information" could point out what a brilliant comedian Hancock was, and mention that extracts from his radio and TV shows are available on the net. That player may then think "Hmm, I'll just check it out on YouTube" - and discover what they'd been missing. One more soul won for civilisation.

Personally, I would only rarely reject a "QQ" question for being too obscure - and only then after I'd done a bit of research. If other players don't like the question when it appears, they will rate it badly, and it will disappear. The system is thereby self-regulating.

I'm never quite sure what constitutes obscure either. Surely questions about album tracks, little known books, films, etc are obscure, but these all seem to get through.

When the QQ game first started I took great trouble to draft a question, to which the answer was 'The Red Bull Air Race'. This event takes place on all continents barring Antarctica and has been won by a variety of nationalities. It was rejected from the sports section as being too obscure. It was eventually accepted in a rewritten form in the World section.

My own opinion is that the number of people getting it right sorts out how obscure it is. I think it's putting too much on individual editors for them to decide on the relative obscurity of the question.

Who @? isn't much of a question. The example here didn't allow any extra info (Australian, Canadian, Irish, British, South African or USA TV?). It didn't tell us if it was a comedy, drama or variety show. It didn't offer any clue as to time of running (50s, 60s, 70s...) or even if the person was the lead of the show. So, in this case obscurity may not have meant too trivial information but lack of information.

The main point of this query was not the question itself, but continuity in what are acceptable questions and what are not.