#967696 - Sat Feb 16 2013 09:08 AM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
[Re: WesleyCrusher]
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Whoohoo! Way past my goal of higher than 100! Thanks a million for the stats, Wes. Sure brightened my day.  Congrats to all the teams, especially the top few.
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#967793 - Sat Feb 16 2013 10:00 PM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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#967837 - Sun Feb 17 2013 10:56 AM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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3rd. We're on the medal stand at least. Still not good enough for my satisfaction. We're going back to work. Time to break out the hardhats and lunchpails!
Thanks to Wes for the stats, of course. 6.31 %-tile points down. Hmm. We can make it, but it's going to take some doing in those games we're currently 4th in.
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#968179 - Tue Feb 19 2013 05:25 PM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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Morpheus, yes, that game is still excluded simply because I cannot track it. The metric is based on the http://www.funtrivia.com/tvt_lastmonth.cfm page which does not have the game. If Terry were to add it there, I would include it in the calculations from that point onward.
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#968214 - Tue Feb 19 2013 08:25 PM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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I would definitely like Mixed added, but I also thnk there are a few other games ripe for inclusion in team scoring. Why the chosen ones and not the rest? Seems like the more games included, the better for the participation in terms of showing who is really dominating.
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#968231 - Tue Feb 19 2013 11:50 PM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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All those 5280 feet in a mile, 2240 pounds in a ton, 43560 sq feet to an acre, 16 ounces to a pound- numbers that are SO easy to calculate. We have a tough time multiplying by 10... Europe is over 10,000,000 square kilometres, whilst USA is only 9,800,000. Population of Europe is over 700 million versus USA with about half of that. Methinks it is about time that the Americans started to catch up!
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#968232 - Wed Feb 20 2013 12:11 AM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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Don't forget how much of the rest of the world is metric, too!
Seriously, the term metric as a noun refers to any standard system of measurement and comparison, so Wes's Team of the Year is a metric. It would be nice to include Mixed, when that is possible, because it is already part of the team competition, and is played regularly as teams attempt to be the best in it each day and month, but it has to be left out of the yearly calculations. And I have heard strong support for removing the New Question Game from the metric, since the sets are so variable in difficulty (not to mention correctness).
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#968279 - Wed Feb 20 2013 07:08 AM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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Actually, I don't see a problem with the NQG in terms of team standings. We are looking at 30 days and 7 to 15 players per team - 210 to 450 samples, with the scoring method (only top players for each team count) further making sure that extremely tough sets won't affect scoring.
While specific day's scores will fluctuate by luck, so will those for Heroes and Pot of Gold depending on the team's strength and weakness in certain topics. However, over the month and, much more, year, this does even out quite well. NQG is to a certain extent a "current affairs" quiz since questions often reflect top news of 6-8 weeks ago (as long as it takes until the question gets played).
I'm all for ADDING more games - the more games in the calculation (I would also add Obscure, Expert and Word Wiz), the better the standings reflect a team's actual overall strength in skill and activity. Removing games is something I would not be in favor of.
However as long as this is something that I have to calculate in Excel based off a copy-pasted web page, all I can use are the contents of that page and thus I can't increase the scope of the scoring.
Edited by WesleyCrusher (Wed Feb 20 2013 07:12 AM)
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#968310 - Wed Feb 20 2013 11:01 AM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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I would hate to be a wet blanket on this idea, but how about games are thrown in that are considered true measures of trivia and not who has the greatest or quickest way to find an answer they don't know. Whatever happened to true sportsmanship? I know it is been brought up before, but this issue should be addressed. Level the playing field and allow those that play by the rules to show their skill by not finishing below those that state there are no "specific" rules against what they are doing. If you're talking about Googling, it is allowed. It's not that there's a loophole, or that Terry hasn't got round to making a rule against it, it's the fact that Googling is allowed. You are allowed to use any search methods you want - you can Google the questions for Piece of Cake if you want, but you're not going to get a very good score. If you feel like it, you can look up all the answers for Word Wizard in a dictionary. In games like the Bus Ride and Obscurity, it's actually encouraged. Being able to search effectively is a skill - working out which questions you're going to be able to look up and which you aren't, managing to include all relevant information without writing too much and doing it all as quickly as possible isn't that simple.
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#969695 - Fri Mar 01 2013 04:42 AM
Re: Team of the year standings 2013
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February scores have arrived and look as follows:
1. classicalmusic/mensan 996,88
2. Funsters 992,78
3. Revenge of the Llamas 992,13
4. Pi in the Sky 991,59
5. Running Amok 979,76
6. The Moops 977,86
7. Tesla Coil 963,24
8. The Cat People 947,32
9. Kindred Spirits 938,57
10. The Beeronians 930,13
11. Joliettes 927,43
12. Wandering Quizzers 920,08
13. Rock the Clock 913,90
14. Canadian Players 910,49
15. The Devious Demons 906,66
16. Wisdom of the Fool 901,46
17. Music Moguls 884,75
18. The Devil's Advocates 883,59
19. Animal Farm 879,46
20. The New England Alliance 859,51
21. Aussies 858,13
22. The Bees Knees 855,88
23. Trivia Garden 853,38
24. Recycled Virgins 841,21
25. Laid Back Larrikins 841,10
26. Age is Only a Number 840,70
27. Incredible Casuals 839,31
28. European Players 837,20
29. The Regal Beagles 832,89
30. Trivia Bubbles 832,78
31. Faithful and True 828,17
32. Dog Park 827,91
33. Midwest USA Players 824,96
34. Calculators 824,22
35. All Right! 814,56
36. The Lost Connection 804,21
37. Phoenix Rising 795,90
38. Raised in the Sixties 791,87
39. The Refugees 786,41
40. Best of the West 781,76
41. Snape's Select 777,43
42. Quiz Makers Guild 776,41
43. United States of Trivia 774,50
44. StarStruck 771,31
45. League of Nations 765,90
46. Indian Gang 764,04
47. The British 758,52
48. Diabolical Devils 758,46
49. The Homo Sapiens 757,77
50. Dynasty Dominators of Death 753,70
51. South African players 744,35
52. Dream Weavers 718,90
53. English Group 715,10
54. Canberrans 710,07
55. 50+ And Proud Of It 707,55
56. Senior Moments 703,71
57. Magic Moguls 694,66
58. Heaven's Angels 686,75
59. Worldwide Wizards 675,07
60. The Sport Fanatics 671,44
61. The Full English 655,60
62. X Squad 655,36
63. Terra Nova 654,01
64. Hoi Polloi 647,86
65. Scotland the Brains 647,10
66. The Internationals 646,80
67. All 50 States 646,65
68. Triviabiz 646,36
69. The Scrambled Eggheads 641,26
70. The Palmetto Players 640,18
71. Almost Angels 637,89
72. double team 632,99
73. THE LIGHTHEARTED 624,79
74. Video Game Lovers! 623,90
75. DC Team 620,05
76. Atheist Quizzers 616,33
77. Washingtons greatest 601,24
78. The Wild Mutant Noggins 586,50
79. The CBBers 583,01
80. Jokers Wild 582,21
81. New York State Folks 566,67
82. The Sizziloons 549,77
83. Kilted Kangas 544,14
84. CLIQUE-KICKERS 543,15
85. ITS ALL GOOD :) 533,66
86. Port Vale 533,00
87. Lucky Thirteen 531,42
88. Triviamanic 530,39
89. Yes, We're Babes! 523,82
90. THE CONSERVATIVES 519,94
91. Australian Players 504,69
92. Retired And Loving It 498,55
93. Movie Buffs 498,44
94. Jane Austen Lovers 492,99
95. Bondoola's Buddies 492,14
96. Bible Believers Brigade 485,49
97. USS Enterprise 485,03
98. Play for Fun 470,41
99. Thunder Chicken 469,20
100. The Meek Shall Inherit 460,27
101. TEAM B.C. 460,07
102. Totally Trivia 459,82
103. The Mighty Toys 456,18
104. NASCAR FANS R #1 451,31
105. Romania Team 447,48
106. No Team here... 442,24
107. Whovians 440,55
108. Yo' Mammas 437,44
109. Optimus Prime 437,22
110. Trivia For Adults 436,57
111. Nightingales Nest 411,86
112. Bikers 410,59
113. USA West Coast 410,58
114. Rednecks Do Have Grey Matter 409,70
115. The Misplaced 400,58
116. The Green Thumbs 392,63
117. No Groups 388,70
118. NHL Hockey Fans 384,83
119. The Titans 380,78
120. Gold Star Players 380,55
121. Ultimate Teammates 357,74
122. Poetic license 353,59
123. Friends of Jesus 352,57
124. Browncoats 350,92
125. USA East Coast Players 349,89
126. Music Madness 332,95
127. The Dog People 329,13
128. Past Times 323,15
129. Yorkshire and Proud 322,36
130. Travellers 316,20
131. Stay at Home Moms & Dads 308,21
132. 80's Wild Childs 301,60
133. ANIMAL LOVERS!!! 298,08
134. Unchained Gang 296,09
135. New Zealanders 292,15
136. les escargots 289,20
137. Trivially Challenged 286,12
138. Slow and Steady 280,77
139. The Legends 280,72
140. Ultimate Opportunists 267,97
141. Headliners & Legends 256,03
142. The Avant-GardZ 255,06
143. Renaissance Rebels 243,38
144. The Alberta Pioneers 232,33
145. The Friday 13s 228,54
146. WWE-TNA Championship Team 222,66
147. Harry Potter Fans 215,63
148. Bawdytalkers 214,84
149. Tolkien's World 202,38
150. Wise & Winsome Night Owls 191,48
151. Trivia Geeks 173,44
152. Random and Crazy People 168,05
153. Trivia Just For Fun 140,48
154. X-Filers 135,22
155. Simply Quizzers 125,39
156. Sports Lovers 111,90
157. Liverpool Supporters Club 107,91
158. TV Watchers Anonymous 84,11
159. SUCCESS STRIVERS 79,23
160. The Super Peepz 70,68
161. Busy Brains 66,93
162. Phans of Phantom forever 58,04
163. Gamers 47,62
which gives our first cumulative top 50 of the year:
1. classicalmusic/mensan 1993,82
2. Revenge of the Llamas 1987,30
3. Funsters 1983,40
4. Pi in the Sky 1981,41
5. The Moops 1957,66
6. Running Amok 1957,49
7. Tesla Coil 1935,82
8. The Cat People 1906,69
9. Kindred Spirits 1878,08
10. The Beeronians 1861,64
11. Wandering Quizzers 1852,58
12. Joliettes 1837,05
13. Rock the Clock 1823,11
14. Canadian Players 1808,81
15. The Devious Demons 1804,27
16. Wisdom of the Fool 1798,26
17. Music Moguls 1770,11
18. The Devil's Advocates 1757,64
19. Trivia Garden 1752,99
20. Animal Farm 1736,94
21. Aussies 1701,92
22. Incredible Casuals 1698,00
23. Trivia Bubbles 1679,45
24. The Bees Knees 1673,02
25. Recycled Virgins 1665,51
26. The Regal Beagles 1658,98
27. Age is Only a Number 1656,18
28. European Players 1655,35
29. All Right! 1647,17
30. Calculators 1644,26
31. Faithful and True 1633,62
32. Phoenix Rising 1626,58
33. Laid Back Larrikins 1616,37
34. Midwest USA Players 1615,43
35. Dog Park 1607,48
36. Raised in the Sixties 1603,12
37. The Refugees 1584,22
38. The Lost Connection 1577,33
39. Snape's Select 1576,40
40. United States of Trivia 1575,60
41. StarStruck 1541,07
42. The British 1526,46
43. Best of the West 1524,32
44. The Homo Sapiens 1517,38
45. Dynasty Dominators of Death 1511,63
46. League of Nations 1503,23
47. Dream Weavers 1496,06
48. Diabolical Devils 1489,87
49. 50+ And Proud Of It 1488,98
50. Quiz Makers Guild 1466,22
The only teams in the top ranks that we haven't already seen with a strong showing last year are Running Amok and Wisdom of the Fool. Both are playing their first full season in 2013.
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