Quiz Queues .. waiting time

Posted by: TonyTheDad

Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Aug 24 2002 07:03 PM

How come one of my quizzes has been in "will be online soon" limbo for a week? Two other quizzes of mine have been put online since I posted it.

[Editing to make the title stand out more for our members who are waiting for a quiz to be put online.]
[ May 29, 2002, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: Linda1 ]
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 07 2000 12:09 PM

TonyTheDad, simply because you're dealing with human beings who cannot be on call 24 hours a day to review/approve quizzes. Please be patient with our editors - they are doing a wonderful job at getting the quizzes online as soon as possible. But, they do have lives outside of Quizzyland.

I know people are anxious to get their quizzes up and running. But, the process is not always as quick as we'd like. There is a certain procedure that all quizzes go through. And, if an editor happens to be sick or have pressing outside committments or something, they may not be able to review quizzes as quickly as we think they "should."

Some of the categories are HUGE, and I have to commend each of our editors for doing a bang-up job at getting them done as quickly as they do.

So, if a quiz is not approved as quickly as you'd like, just be a bit patient. It's not been forgotten. It will get done.

Posted by: TonyTheDad

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 07 2000 12:27 PM

Thank you for your response.

I didn't mean to sound impatient. It's just fun to created quizzes; I'm anxious to see how they're received.

Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 07 2000 12:40 PM

I know it's fun to create quizzes and see how people like them!

Here's a hint, though, for anyone who is waiting for a quiz to be approved. If the editors do not have to correct spelling, grammar, factual, etc errors in your quiz before approving it, it may get online sooner! When they are forced to muddle through a quiz, it takes them longer. ALSO, by having a quiz that's done correctly, you establish a reputation for yourself as being a good quiz creator. Future quizzes by you will be noticed and approved more quickly, just because we know that yours is going to be easy to do. I know that, when I've edited quizzes in the past, the ones that I recognize as being people who have good spelling and grammar will always be the ones that I choose first to approve. It's that simple!

So, word to the wise! Check, double-check, and triple-check your quiz for errors. And, after you do that, have another person proofread it for you. Only then should you submit the quiz. You might be surprised at how this helps get your quizzes online more quickly!

Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jun 08 2000 04:14 PM

Amen to what Linda said! There are certain names that I smile when I see in my queue because I know that they'll turn in a well-written, unique, fun quiz. Others make me cringe because I know I am going to be dealing with grammar, spelling, punctuation and factual issues. In addition, some people write quizzes that sparkle, while others predictably turn in quizzes that I'll approve (because they have no obvious errors), but they are just run-of-the-mill, nothing-special, pretty boring stuff.

I tend to be a more patient editor that many, especially if I figure that the writer is a kid. Actually, that is probably a great way to impress me- if you are a high-school or younger kid, see if you can turn in quizzes that wouldn't be recognizable as the work of a student! I hate to stereotype, but most of the really error-riddled quizzes I get are turned in by students.

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Posted by: Brainz

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 12 2000 09:21 AM

I have a quiz that I've been waiting to come online for a little over three weeks so I must have had a lot of grammical errors!

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Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 12 2000 09:59 AM

Maybe even some grammatical ones, too! (Joshing with ya!)

Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 12 2000 11:43 PM

Brainz-

What category is your quiz in?

BTW, a quiz won't sit in limbo for three weeks because of grammatical errors. It will either be corrected by the editor or returned to the author. Right now, the editing is slow in a few categories.

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Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jul 11 2000 10:29 AM

Moving this up.

Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 04 2000 02:23 PM

Moving this thread up again for IcyWolf (and anyone else who's waiting for a quiz to go online.)

Posted by: Kooz

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 04 2000 05:39 PM







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Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Aug 14 2000 04:56 PM

Sending the thread up to the top again.

(This might be one we need to send back up on a more regular basis, as we get a lot of questions about when quizzes will be put online.)

Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Sep 11 2000 12:22 PM

Someone just asked me about this, so I thought I'd move it back up to the top for ease. Here it is!

Posted by: Ruma

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 17 2000 02:30 AM

Linda,

I've often wondered, how do you choose an editor for a category? And how many per category? How on earth do they verify their answers to all the ziilions of sometimes obscure topics? How many hours do they have to spend online everyday? Do they ever take a holiday? Do they apply for the job?
Just curious! :-)

More so, cos I really admire all the work done.Ditto the doers.

Cheers!;-)

Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 17 2000 05:18 PM

Since I'm one of the newer editors, I thought I would answer your question!

Editors are chosen because they have created a lot of consistenly good quizzes, have good English skills, and have done well on the 'Quizzyland tune-ups' quizzes.

How many per category depends on how active that category is. A category like records needs only one person, and that person is also an editor of other categories.

We don't verify the answers. Editors mainly look at how well the quiz is constructed and if the content is something new/original. If there is a wrong answer in a quiz, the players let us know by correction notices (you can send in a compliment/suggestion or correction about a quiz once you have played it). The editors can see the corrections and can fix the quizzes there or send a message to the author and have them fix it.

How many hours depends on two things: how active the category is and how many editors there are. Normally, I spend no more than an hour a day on the television and entertainment categories because I hare those categories with other people so it cuts down on the work!

If one of us will be away, the category gets looked after by the other editors.

Some people 'apply' for the job when they see that Terry is looking for another editor in the Quizzyland forum and other people are asked to join based on the quizzes they have created.

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Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 28 2000 03:14 PM

Moving this up for "macquiz." Also take a look at Terry's thread, "Tips for Quiz Creation."

Here's Terry's thread-click here to go to it

[ link updated ]
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 25 2001 03:02 PM

Moving this up to the top for people who have quizzes waiting to go online. It's a helpful thread that I think we need to bring up to the top more often!

Be sure to see Terry's thread in the link mentioned above, as well.

Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 12 2002 11:29 AM

Bringing this up - we've had some questions lately, and this thread hasn't been up at the top for a while!
Posted by: Wallos

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 21 2002 01:15 AM

Terry has some valid points and his explanation of the reasons behind delays experienced is well expressed. However, as with some others I have had a quiz in the music section now for over 10 days 'waiting to go online'. It is quite frustrating especially when I have other quizzes ready to go online and I was recently told the backlog was being rectified. Is there a need for more editors?
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 21 2002 01:23 AM

If I (as a Music editor) may ...

First of all, our apologies for the length of the queue. We're working on it. We actually do have a good number of editors in there - the problem is that this particular time of year happens to be very busy for all of us. Some of us (including me) are either on spring break or doing all the work leading up to spring break. Some of us (again including me) are ill. Others are changing jobs, going back and forth between conferences, etc. So it should quiet down soon, when our lives do. [Smile]

We can blame Spring Break for something else too - there are always a lot more quizzes submitted when students are on vacation from school anywhere in the world, but especially in the Northern Hemisphere. So we've got many more quizzes than usual submitted just now; we'll also be very busy in the summer.

We're trying to work through the quizzes based on who's been waiting the longest, though, so we should get to yours soon - I think our backlog is currently about 11 days. I'd do it now, but I need to get some sleep. [Smile]
Posted by: Bruyere

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 21 2002 02:17 AM

Here's another Music Editor chiming in, my esteemed co-editor Cellar Door is right, the fluctuation in the music dept is rather like the tides, school holidays tend to bring in more quizzes and unfortunately, music is one of the categories to which there are more submissions that require extra special TLC as many people are younger and still in school. As we wish to give everyone an equal chance to get online, we try to handle this with the utmost care. This is one of the categories to which people feel most comfortable submitting a very first quiz and they often have a passion for their particular artist.
Also, just imagine that many people who submit quizzes will simply say, "lyrics" or something for a title, little thinking that we have 20 with the same name in line, and 20 online with slight variations.
We have also found that in music, as many younger people are passionate about their subject, we receive many quizzes that are too time dependent on current stars and it takes time to explain why we are reluctant to accept these quizzes on the stars' personal lives etc.
So this is the major reason the turnaround is longer in music, it's the nature of the game in music.
If you compare it to literature, where by the very nature of the category you have people willing to take a bit more time on their quizzes or who are used to writing more often, you normally do not have to spend quite as much time.
(Barring the Tolkien book quizzes as a result of the film!)
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 21 2002 05:21 PM

quote:
We can blame Spring Break for something else too - there are always a lot more quizzes submitted when students are on vacation from school anywhere in the world, but especially in the Northern Hemisphere.
YES! Please, please, please everyone! Realize this fact and be patient during the busy times of the year! Whenever school's out for some reason, the quizmaking goes WILD! [Big Grin]
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 22 2002 10:47 PM

If you want your quiz online faster, while you're waiting for your quiz to be looked at (preferrably you should do this BEFORE You click 'ready to go online', but better late than never) - go to the main pageof the category that you submitted your quiz to. Click on 'Quiz Creation Notes" - this is where you find category-specific informaiton about how your quiz should be forumulated. For example, in Music you MUST put titles of songs, lyrics and albums in quotations. I just took a quick look at the Music queue and about HALF of the quizzes do NOT do this. Also, I rejected about 10 just because they had major spelling problems in the introduction of the quiz! This is why it takes so long to get your quiz looked at. If everyone would do their part and make sure all the 'big things' are taken care of, we can put quizzes online faster because we don't have to reject them and re-check them when they're resubmitted.
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon May 13 2002 02:52 AM

Up again.
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed May 29 2002 01:38 PM

Up for DangerMouse (and anyone else who has a quiz waiting to go online).
Posted by: Sprink1234

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 03 2002 06:40 PM

Linda, or anyone else that can answer my question...

Do quizzes in creation status get deleted after a period of time if they are not completed and submitted?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 03 2002 07:35 PM

No. The only time that this can happen is if you create (but never finish/submit) a quiz in a category that is then deleted or moved. If that happens, your quiz goes into a "twilight zone" limbo where an editor will eventually see it and restore it (if it's obvious that it was being worked on.)

I know that I have 2 quizzes I started a year ago and haven't yet finished!

[ June 03, 2002, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: crisw ]
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Aug 24 2002 07:03 PM

Up again.

(I'm going to "sticky" this to the top of the forum for a while, so it doesn't drop down so quickly.)

Posted by: BenjiSim

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Sep 20 2002 05:04 PM

Where can I see how busy different sections are, and how long the average quiz takes to be placed online for that section?
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Sep 20 2002 05:09 PM

BenjiSim, on the main quiz page, there is a link called 'Queue Status'. It lists all the main categories and the approximate waiting times. I stress the word 'approximate'- there are many factors that could change these figures upwards or downwards.
Posted by: snowomen

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 26 2002 05:01 PM

I created a 'Jeff Hardy' quiz on September 21 and now it is the 26 and I dying if it is online or not, but it's not online and I'm hoping someone checks it really soon. Thanks!
Posted by: DakotaNorth

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 26 2002 06:00 PM

Snowomen, your quiz is in the queue. However, there are other quizzes that are ahead of your quiz. When your quiz is next up, it will be edited. I can't say if it will be placed online, though.
Posted by: snowomen

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Sep 27 2002 08:24 AM

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Posted by: snowomen

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 20 2002 11:52 AM

I recently made a quiz on 'SoulBlade' and a editor helped me with my errors I had. I corrected the errors like he said then sumitted the quiz. A couple days later an other editor checks it then tells me to change my question to multiple choice. Now my quiz has to wait again until it goes online because one editor tells me to change my question to multiple choice when the other didn't tell me to change anything but errors!
Posted by: DakotaNorth

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 20 2002 12:09 PM

Snowomen, as mentioned before, if you have any questions regarding your quiz, the proper thing to do is hit reply on the correction and ask the editor why you have to change it to multiple choice.

Since I am the one who told you to change it to multiple choice, here is my reason. The name in the fill in the blank is of a foreign nature and players would have difficulty getting the spelling right. Then you would have numerous correction notes from players who would say that they spelled it right, but that you had it wrong. So multiple choice for that question is better than fill in the blank.

I hope this answered your question.
Posted by: Mile-O-Phile

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 25 2003 06:51 PM

Quote:

Future quizzes by you will be noticed and approved more quickly, just because we know that yours is going to be easy to do.




In what respect do you mean "easy to do"? Is this easy to scan and allow for publication, or allows someone of limited intelligence a genuine chance at scoring points?

I have had a quiz written, rejected, and resubmitted and have now waited weeks while it remains static in the 'awaiting approval' limbo. I am aware that there is a waiting list but I feel that the time I have waited to date has thus far exceeded the virtual management of my expectations.

I replied to the editors and have thus far received no reply to my grievances over the rejection of my quiz.

So, for the moderators/editors of the general section, I quote my reply:

"I find the notion that my quiz was rejected on the grounds that it doesn't contain any multiple choice questions is ridiculous. The use of multiple choice questions is a recommendation and as an author I feel that I can accept the "recommendation" and use my better judgement to bypass this option altogether. I think that the sheer number of multiple choices on the site indicate a sway toward dumbing down - what's wrong with a question where the specific answer is required? It's general knowledge: sometimes you know the answer, and sometimes you don't and can take an educated guess - that's the fun of a quiz. In all questions I have written where there may be a different answer (i.e full name) I have endeavoured to add a second answer that can also be accepted. Thankyou."

Please can someone inform me if there is a genuine problem with respect to the delay on the General section of the site, or if it is just a personal dislike on behalf of the moderator/editor that reviewed my quiz for acceptance?

Again, thankyou.
Posted by: Linda1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 25 2003 07:12 PM

As far as "easy to do", it refers to the difficulty that the editors have in editing a quiz. There are some quizzes that take a mere moment to review and approve (actually, a very rare occurrence). Some take much longer and require extensive editing and guidance. If we see a quiz in the queue from someone that we know we've never had a problem with - be it that they are very good in crafting their quizzes AS WELL AS they are polite when conversing with their fellow players and with the editors, it does affect our view of the quiz in question.

As for multiple choice vs fill-in-the-blank, Quizzyland is not a rapid-fire test; this isn't school where you're graded over your knowledge. Over the years, we have discovered that all fill-in-the-blanks (in categories such as General and many others) are not as widely accepted by the players. Frankly, they just aren't liked, and they're not played as often. We encourage quizmakers to use multiple choice whenever possible. We've learned that these are the kinds of quizzes that people want to play. Quizmakers tend to get grumpy when they realize that their quizzes aren't being played when they've spent quite a bit of time crafting them. This is one reason why we, having had the experience of seeing what gets played often and what doesn't, suggest certain things regarding the creation of quizzes. Plus, we strongly encourage new quizmakers to use multiple choice only, because, fill-in-the-blank quizzes require quizmakers to understand how the format works. The general policy in Quizzyland is that newcomers start out with a multiple choice only quiz.

I looked at your quiz, but I can't remember if the editor who reviewed your quiz mentioned this or not. You have no trivia in the Interesting Info boxes. Please refer to the Category Quiz Creation Guidelines for the requirements regarding these sections. Quizzes can't be put online until the Guidelines are followed.

In terms of the particular editor who first looked at your quiz, I haven't spoken with her to see what her perspective on the quiz is.

I can tell you one reason your quiz may still be in the queue, though. You haven't ever asked the editor for clarification or help IMPORTANT NOTE (and this applies to everyone), if you get a rejection notice, DO NOT use the "This is not an error" to respond to it. This method does not accomplish what you are trying to do, as it often does not reach the editor who sent the notice. As we've said multiple times, please use the "Reply to Person Who Sent This Note" button to respond to any rejection notices.

Hope this answers some of your questions!

Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 25 2003 07:52 PM

Also, about waiting 'weeks' - your quiz was resubmitted only 10 days ago. Because all of the editors are volunteers, we do have other priorities in our lives than this site. Sometimes editors will 'skip over' a quiz if they see another editor has already become familiar (through something like a previous rejection) with the quiz or because it's a topic that one of the editors is an 'expert' on.

So what I'm trying to say in the midst of my rambling is that sometimes editors go on (gasp!) vacation and in categories like General, they tend to leave quizzes for the editor who first rejected it.
Posted by: lddfsu

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 25 2003 10:57 PM

Quote:

IMPORTANT NOTE (and this applies to everyone), if you get a rejection notice, DO NOT use the "This is not an error" to respond to it. This method does not accomplish what you are trying to do, as it often does not reach the editor who sent the notice. As we've said multiple times, please use the "Reply to Person Who Sent This Note" button to respond to any rejection notices.





If the "This is not an error" key doesn't seem to work with these kinds of problems, why is it there? It's been a long time since I've created a quiz, but I don't remember it ever being too clear which button you should hit. The instructions might have been changed in the past few months, but I don't remember anywhere that it told me to reply to the person who sent the note.

Hopefully, that made sense.
Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2003 09:46 AM

Quote:

If the "This is not an error" key doesn't seem to work with these kinds of problems, why is it there?




It's for explaining why a correction sent by a player (as opposed to an editor) is in error.
Posted by: Mile-O-Phile

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2003 11:54 AM

Thankyou.
Posted by: skylarb

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2003 04:00 PM

Quote:

IMPORTANT NOTE (and this applies to everyone), if you get a rejection notice, DO NOT use the "This is not an error" to respond to it. This method does not accomplish what you are trying to do, as it often does not reach the editor who sent the notice. As we've said multiple times, please use the "Reply to Person Who Sent This Note" button to respond to any rejection notices.
Hope this answers some of your questions!





As an aside--I'm glad you emphasized this, because it is not obvious to first time visitors. The natural inclination is to think that the editor will see what you write in that box, since the box is there under "This is not an error" option as if inviting comments for the editor to see. This is a suggesiton which may not be possible given your format or system, but if it is, I think it would be a good idea to simply eliminate the comment box altogether, and have only the two dots, with a note following istructing the quizmaker to respond directly to the editor.
Posted by: OldOne

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jun 02 2003 04:29 PM

Quote:

Over the years, we have discovered that all fill-in-the-blanks (in categories such as General and many others) are not as widely accepted by the players. Frankly, they just aren't liked, and they're not played as often. We encourage quizmakers to use multiple choice whenever possible.




I like fill-in-the-blank quizzes a lot, because they enable certain types of questions that would be too obvious otherwise. An obvious example are riddles, most of which would be trivial, and no fun, if they were multiple choice. In other areas, recalling a unique and distinctive name for something is a good challenge. Granted, a good fill-in is more difficult to construct, and I think that common spelling errors should be in the list of acceptable answers, so every quiz is not a spelling bee. Careful guidelines would help. It seems to me that with a zillion tastes in quizzes being catered to, drawing the line at fill-in-the-blanks is a strange limitation. However, if that is the rule, I think it ought to be put into the subject guidelines category by category, rather than leaving it to be discovered as an unwritten rule only after the quiz is submitted and then rejected on the grounds it is multiple choice.
Posted by: Flibberdgibbit

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 03 2003 11:13 PM

I submitted a quiz in the movie category about 10 days ago and am patiently awaiting a response on that one. I already have another movie quiz ready for submission. My question is, do I have to wait for the other one to be approved before I can submit this one? I know that it said don't submit a truckload at once, that the number varied by category, but I really didn't find any specific numbers pertaining to the movie category. Would like to get it in, but didn't want to break any rules!
Thanks!
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 03 2003 11:23 PM

Movies has a limit of one
on any page of the Movies category, click on the link Special Instructions: READ ME
(the link is in the middle, alongside Options: Create a Quiz)
Posted by: Flibberdgibbit

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 03 2003 11:26 PM

Thanks for the prompt response! I looked under movies, but probably looked everywhere except where you're talking about! Thanks again!
Posted by: Bruyere

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 04 2003 12:28 AM

Re: the wait. Occasionally in the categories I help out in, there will be a few quizzes that have queries that hold up the others..as we need to hear from the quizmaker about his or her sources or something functional. This may influence the queues list that you view. Just wanted you to know that when a quiz is in the queue without a problem having been solved, that in my sections we give people a day or so to respond. Once again, I often tell people, please take your time before resubmitting, it makes the wait shorter for everyone.

Now, sigh, FITBS..OldOne, not everyone is as good at using the FITB as a rare color on their palette, to give an additional challenge to their work...without making it impossible to type in and, in fact, as we discourage and/or disallow the misspelling thing in most categories, it isn't an option. I know from personal experience on my own work and I am very careful when I do them, and then, editing others' work and also, manning the quality control where the correction notices end up, and the FITB really isn't the appropriate choice here in QL for the majority of quiz creators.
If this were a pencil and paper test, then you'd be fine asking for an FITB..it isn't.
Few creators use it as well as someone like Jazz for example..his FITBS are never unfair and always enhance his work.
IN the past they were allowed more often as we had no idea of all the types of problems they generated, and it proved to be a source of trouble.
And no, it isn't "dumbing down" a quiz to restrict these.
The invisible effect of too many ambiguous FITBS is not making your quiz succeed in the ratings, and rating it very difficult, which discourages people from trying it. Some people will not bother sending you a note to tell you, they'll just give up in midstream..
So though I feel for those of you who submit reasonably good FITBS then have us advise against them..but, the quiz that is smoothly constructed does much better.

By the way, I recently had a quiz rejected by my colleagues as being too hard as it was cartoon characters and had a few FITBS..I converted it and it's one of my best performing ones..so I'm convinced!
Posted by: Free_will

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Aug 12 2003 08:35 PM

I had a quiz sent back to me because the editor said clear up other quiz correction notices, I did, then resubmited but it was still sent back to me, why?
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Aug 12 2003 08:49 PM

mate, don't ask the same question in two threads, expecting or hoping to get two different answers.

as per the other thread - discuss it with the editor working on your quiz, by using the "reply to" button at the bottom of the message. Editors are not the big bad ogre!
Posted by: DakotaNorth

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Aug 12 2003 09:24 PM

Will,

If you have a problem with the correction note I sent you, the proper thing to do is to send me a message in private.

By bringing out to the open forums, all it's going to do is embarass you if I state why I sent you the correction note.

Now, I'm sure you don't want that to happen...right?
Posted by: Andy713

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 13 2003 05:15 PM

He might have made a mistake there.
Posted by: Free_will

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 14 2003 10:11 AM

My previous two quizzes on music, both went online after only one correction notice, does that make my quizzes further up in the list?

Preferably could a music editor answer this, but anyone will do.
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 14 2003 02:09 PM

No, it does not make you a better author, necessarily.
Posted by: Free_will

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 14 2003 02:34 PM

I meant does it get me a better reputation and would editors choose my quizzes before others who have to be sent a few correction notices?
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 14 2003 02:54 PM

Free - I said not necessarily. It could, but the ratings go throughout the entire website. And although it's fairly easy for a rating to go down, we don't raise them so quickly.
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 14 2003 06:23 PM

Free Will,

I am an Editor (not in music), and a large proportion of the quizzes I edit go online after one (or no) correction notes.

Reading guidelines, and playing quizzes in your selected category helps both the authors and the editors.
Posted by: DakotaNorth

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 14 2003 06:55 PM

Will,

Just because you have two quizzes online in the same category, does not mean that all your quizzes site wide will immediately go online.

Each category has its own set of guidelines...and it is to your advantage to read the guidelines for the category in which you want to create quizzes.
Posted by: halfbakedangi

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 28 2003 10:29 AM

I am getting a bit confused in "This is not an error" button so I'll illustrate it with a example.

Suppose I get a correction message from someone who is pointing out something wrong. But I am sure that it is absolutely right. I reply and tell the sender in a nice way. Then what do I do with the correction message ? Do I click "Error corrected" or "This is not an error"?
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 28 2003 10:51 AM

Well, if there was something wrong with your quiz that you fixed you click on corrected. But if there was nothing wrong, you click on 'not an error' as there was nothing wrong with your quiz.
Posted by: halfbakedangi

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 28 2003 10:55 AM

Thank you, ladymacb.
Posted by: halfbakedangi

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Sep 20 2003 02:09 AM

Here I am, again popping up like a bad penny. But I've got another question.

Recently, in this thread, one of the editors mentioned that when they see an particular quizmaker in their quiz making queue, they know that that quizmaker has made interesting quizzes in the past and they will check his/her quiz first. I was wondering, does the editor evaluate his past quizzes on how highly they are ranked or on the editor's own experience.
Posted by: achernar

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Sep 20 2003 02:19 AM

Angi, I think it's probably based on the Editor's previous experiences with that particular quiz-maker, not based on ranking (at least I hope not!). Some of the best-written quizzes I've seen have gotten awful ranks (which just shows that democracy isn't infallible!).
Posted by: halfbakedangi

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Sep 20 2003 02:58 AM

I was thinking that too, Harish. I just wanted an confirmation. So can an editor confirm it for me.
Posted by: JuniorTheJaws

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Sep 20 2003 03:33 AM

Angi,

Not all editors edit in the exact same manner, but if there is a quiz by a quiz creator waiting in line, that said editor has had previous experience with (i.e., well-formatted questions, ample/factual interesting information, few to no typos or grammatical errors, etc, etc.), then those quizzes are usually the first to be placed online by said editors.

But for the most part, if the quizmaker has proven in the past that he/she is ready, willing, and able to work with the editing staff, then yes, in most cases a quizmaker of that caliber will have their quizzes placed online more quickly.


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Agnes (JTJ)
Posted by: halfbakedangi

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Sep 20 2003 04:01 AM

Thank you, Jtj, you have cleared a lot of my doubts. From now on, I'll really try to make good quizzes with plenty of interesting info. (I won't succeed, of course)
Posted by: JuniorTheJaws

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Sep 20 2003 04:37 AM

Angi,

Learning how to make quizzes is a slow process....the editing staff started out the same way, we had to learn and follow advice given to us by editors as well. A good quizmaker is not born overnight...it takes time.

If I see a quizmaker is willing to listen to and follow the advice given in correction notes, no doubt I bend over backwards to given them all the help possible...as do the other editors.

That is why the editing staff is here...to help make you (and everyone else) the best quizmaker that you possibly can be.

The editors know what will work and what will not work and we give quizmakers the benefit of our experience....some choose to take our advice and others do not. But, no matter what, we are here to help get the best possible product online.

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Agnes (JTJ)
Posted by: curinfinwe

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 12 2007 02:28 PM

Hi! I submitted a quiz more than 2 weeks ago in the "People" category, and I still haven't recieved any reply about it. I have 3 quizzes online, one of which was accepted without a correction notice at all. I've never received a correction for spelling or grammar. And, now I'm worried that I've submitted it in the wrong category and will have to re-submit it and wait for a long time again after an editor sees it. I have other quizzes ready to submit, but I can only submit one quiz at a time.
Are there any editors from the People category who would tell me anything about the status of the quiz?
It's called "Everest Firsts"
Thanks in advance!
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 12 2007 02:46 PM

Hi curinfinwe, I'm not editing in the People category but I checked the queue for you. Your quiz shows as having been submitted on June 8th and there are still a few quizzes ahead in the queue of yours. Please note that - although it's perfectly fine to make changes to a quiz after it's been submitted - every time you save it, it will be put back to the end of the queue.

Leau, editor
Posted by: curinfinwe

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 12 2007 04:08 PM

Leau,
Thanks for checking the queu for me. However, I KNOW it was not submitted then. When I go to edit it, it says that I submitted it on May 27th. I haven't made any changes since then, as far as I know.
Thanks!

P.S. I like the koala avatar!
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 12 2007 05:01 PM

It was originally submitted on the 27th of May. However, the latest date the quiz was saved was June 8th. So either you or an editor made changes, but I couldn't see a change having been made by anyone on the quiz's log. Even a quick look into the quiz edit screen to double-check things and then hitting the save button on habit 'restarts' the clock on the quiz.
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jun 12 2007 11:07 PM

Quote:

P.S. I like the koala avatar!





Thanks!
Posted by: curinfinwe

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 13 2007 05:11 AM

Oh. Thanks!
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jul 14 2007 02:03 PM

Hi,

I understand that I can only submit one quiz at a time. However, I am worried because I have 3 other quizzes waiting to be submitted. I am afraid that because of the wait time the 3 quizzes that I have ready to be submitted will be deleted because they will be there for over a month. Please can someone tell me what to do so that my quizzes that are waiting to be submitted won't be deleted.
Thank You
Trevor
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jul 14 2007 02:09 PM

You can put "Please don't delete" in the quiz title, if you're very concerned about it.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jul 14 2007 02:18 PM

Or, you can just go into the edit screen once a month or so, and then save the quiz. That "restarts the clock".

While you have one quiz waiting in the queue, that is a good time to polish your not yet submitted quizzes - do a little more research, give it one more proofing, etc.
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jul 14 2007 02:53 PM

Thank You
Trevor
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jul 21 2007 10:01 PM

Hi,

I was just wondering. I submitted a quiz on July 13 and I just noticed an editor made a light change in my category. It is still in the same category, only narrowed down. The reason I am writing is that happened on July 17 and I was wondering if it is possible that the editor may have forgot to send me a correction notice or put the quiz online.
Curious
Trevor1968
Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jul 21 2007 11:55 PM

Trevor- PLEASE take these issues directly to the editor involved. They really don't belong here on the boards. The boards are really for discussion of issues that affect ALL quizmakers. Thanks.
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jul 22 2007 12:06 AM

I did. In fairness to the editor, he may not had a chance to check his mail. I posted it here because I didn't know who or where to ask. I find you are excellent in that you respond to your mail but some do not. I rarely ask an editor a question. However, I realize they are quite busy.
Thanks
Trevor
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jul 22 2007 03:11 AM

Trevor, I can only speak for myself, but I think a lot of editors will agree. When I go through the queue and I notice quizzes that are in the wrong subcategory, I often place them where they belong without doing any further editing. Especially if I don't have a lot of time.

Leau, editor
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jul 22 2007 07:56 AM

I apologize to the editor as I spoke in haste. The editor responded almost as quickly as I sent the mail. I am ashamed of myself because I pride myself as a person with a lot of patience, However, I was too impatient this time.
I sincerely apologize to the editor
Very Sorry
Trevor1968

Thank you to Leau as well because now I know for another time.
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jul 22 2007 09:08 AM

Hi crisw,
I apologize to you and I will make sure that only issues that affect all quizmakers will be written on these boards.
Thank You
Trevor1968
Posted by: delboy22

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jul 25 2007 04:44 AM

I have written only 3 quizzes, but I am very pleased, and impressed to say that the editors concerned have been absolutely marvelous!
My first quiz was placed online after major corrections with regard to capitolisation.
The second quiz was placed in the correct category for me by one editor, and then placed online by a second editor.
My third quiz was placed straight online without correction.
All three quizzes were online within HOURS of initial submission and/or correction!

Thankyou to the editors concerned - I am very impressed!
Posted by: quogequox

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 16 2007 06:14 AM

Is there still a quiz waiting list available somewhere. I cant find it.
Posted by: quogequox

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 16 2007 06:16 AM

Sorry just found it. Carry on.
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 16 2007 04:15 PM

Sorry quog, can I ask what you mean by a quiz waiting list?
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 16 2007 04:22 PM

The Queue Wait Times page.

http://www.funtrivia.com/qsize.cfm
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 16 2007 05:35 PM

Oh ok, thank you very much Lady
Posted by: The_lioness33

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 19 2007 03:41 AM

Just a question. If you have a good reputation for being a good quiz creator, then you are likely to have your quiz submitted earlier right?

What if you have only created a few quizzes, but they have been approved quickly and without any correction messages? Are you likely to have to still wait longer, as the editors may not be familiar with you?
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 19 2007 07:19 AM

There are so many factors that it is really impossible to say. I wish I could come up with a better answer, but there it is.

Keep doing good work, and eventually you will get your just rewards; exactly WHEN is a bit arbitrary, sorry.
Posted by: trevor1968

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 19 2007 10:59 AM

Lioness, It depends. I can only tell you my situation. Usually, I wait about 3-4 days in the Sci/Tech category ( even with resubmissions). In the world category, I have to wait a lot longer. The first time I submitted a quiz in the world category, I had to wait 20 days ( with one resubmission) for it to go online. Now, I submitted a quiz in the world category 11 days ago and I am waiting for it to be approved or a correction notice.
I guess it depends on the number of quizzes each editor has to edit. After a while, I might be writing telling you the opposite thing as there may be a long wait time for Sci/Tech category and a short wait time for the World category.
Posted by: DakotaNorth

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 19 2007 11:51 AM

Trevor, I believe editor Agony already answered the question.
Posted by: The_lioness33

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Aug 20 2007 05:34 AM

Thanks Agony and Trevor. I'll just have to start making more quizzes to earn myself a good reputation.
Posted by: Carlos160

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 02 2007 12:22 PM

I have some questions. I submit a spanish quiz about 1 week and 3 days ago. Does it take that long. I will appreciated any of your answers. Thanks.
Posted by: gman89

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 02 2007 12:52 PM

Yes, it can take that long. There are an excess of quizzes currently waiting to be edited, so creating new quizzes has been temporarily disabled. Until those quizzes are edited and the editors are caught up, waiting times may be a little longer than they typically are. This also has to do with your own quiz-making status; if your quizzes typically get rejected upon editor review, you may have to wait longer periods of time to get your quizzes edited. One to two weeks, however, is typical depending on the category and the amount of editors in that category.
Posted by: Carlos160

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 23 2007 12:09 PM

Some questions. It is true the literature category is the one who take the most longer to be edited by an editor. When I submit a literature quiz, it takes about one week to be edited. But this time, my quiz is taking longer than a week. I have been waiting about one week and a half. It may have a lot grammar errors.

Other questions, most of the time, when I submit a quiz, my quiz is always rejected because it said that my quiz have a lot grammar errors. I always check for every errors, but it is still rejected. I have trouble writing a quiz because english is my second language. Are editors allow to correct quizzes for any errors. My quizzmaking privileges were suspended because of this case, submitted a quizz with many grammar errors.

I will appreciated for any answer. Thanks.
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 23 2007 12:18 PM

Hi Carlos, editors can correct grammar errors, and I guess if there are 1 or 2, they would happily correct them, however if there are many - it is time consuming and more importantly, you won't be learning from those mistakes.

As you have said, English may not be your first language, however, do you have friends, relatives who DO speak primarily English? Do you use word processors to check for syntax/grammar errors? (They are indicated by a squiggly green line underneath the faulty text).
Posted by: Carlos160

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 23 2007 01:17 PM

Hi, Jon, I'm using a web page that check grammar and punctuation errors, but when I submit it, it still reject, it said that my quiz have many errors.

Thanks for your answers.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 23 2007 01:55 PM

If your English needs more than a reasonable amount of editing in order to have correct grammar, it is best if you not submit quizzes. We just do not have the resources to write the quiz for you. The editors do not mind giving a bit of extra grammatical help for authors who do not have English as a native language, but a 'bit' is really all we can do. Sorry.
Posted by: Carlos160

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Sep 23 2007 02:02 PM

Thanks, I'll find out some help, and a word processor that checks grammar.
Posted by: deadlydalton

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2008 05:49 AM

Is there "better" times to submit a quiz, or try just avoid holidays/weekends etc?
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2008 07:26 AM

I don't think so. Even holidays/weekends are OK - we get more submissions then, but on the whole, editors have more time to edit, too, so it evens out.
Posted by: darksplash

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2008 04:34 PM

Just out of curiosity, is there a preferred time for editors to put quizzes online? Most of mine seem to go on in the wee small hours of the morning (UK time).

Not that I am complaining, I hasten to add...I am only too pleased to see them there and I value the hard work of our dedicated, fragrant and very erudite editors (crawl, crawl)
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2008 04:43 PM

There is no site-wide preferred time for editors to do their work. But individual editors have time frames that work better with their schedules, and time frames that don't. The net effect is a bit unpredictable, since we have editors hailing from a variety of different places.

The small hours of the morning (UK time) sounds to me like evening in the US, where we have a lot of editors. I think many editors find themselves with a little more time in the evenings, after work and supper. Others are able to edit occasionally during working hours (I can do this myself sometimes, while waiting for code to compile or data to accumulate), and still others prefer the mornings -- unless their schedules change one week! So, basically, it's all in the air. And even if you somehow carefully calibrate the timing of your submission, there may still be 10 other quizzes in the queue ahead of yours when the editor gets online!

CellarDoor
Editor (Religion, Music, Humanities)
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 12:58 PM

Just some general questions about this subject. To wit:

Why can a quiz writer only submit one quiz at a time? I don't mean, say, six quizzes in one category, but one quiz in several categories?

If the queues are so long, why not bring more editors online for those categories with longer waiting times? As the editors are all volunteers, I should think monetary concerns are not at play here. However, at this time, no one can even fill out an application to be an editor.

I've had a music quiz waiting now for about 10 days (which may not seem like long to some), but have other quizzes waiting to submit, because I love to write them and think I do a pretty good job of it!

Just wondering.
WOBoogie
Posted by: stuthehistoryguy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Just some general questions about this subject. To wit:

Why can a quiz writer only submit one quiz at a time? I don't mean, say, six quizzes in one category, but one quiz in several categories?

If the queues are so long, why not bring more editors online for those categories with longer waiting times? As the editors are all volunteers, I should think monetary concerns are not at play here. However, at this time, no one can even fill out an application to be an editor.

I've had a music quiz waiting now for about 10 days (which may not seem like long to some), but have other quizzes waiting to submit, because I love to write them and think I do a pretty good job of it!

Just wondering.
WOBoogie




Well, Ms. Boogie, the major reason for the one-quiz-at-a-time rule is to keep the categories from being pelted with lots of quizzes from folks who may not put a great deal of energy into their efforts or whose grasp of the guidelines is a trifle tenuous. After an author has "proven themselves" by consistently writing good quizzes that require very little editing and being appropriately responsive to criticism, this stricture may be relaxed - though it cannot be overemphasized that really very few authors do reach this level. In other words, if your wait times are too long, you may want to double-check your work to make sure everything is according to Hoyle - nothing will slow down your work more than the necessity of many correction notices.

As far as more editors are concerned: becoming an editor around here is kind of like being selected for Special Forces in the US military. Many are called; few are chosen.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 01:48 PM

And I believe it has been said before that it's not as easy as a lot of people think it is to get more editors. It's a matter of finding people who are qualified to do it AND who are willing to put in the work, and there aren't that many people like that out there.
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 02:35 PM

Dear Stu...,

Well, I did spend more than 25 years as a writer and editor, so I do my utmost to clear any quizzes I write of grammatical, stylistic and punctuation errors (and, of course, factual ones).

I have eight quizzes online and none of them have taken this long. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be 'talking down' a bit to me, and I find that sad (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm a long-time, dedicated professional with three communications degrees. In fact, I put a great deal of time and energy into each quiz I create. They are THAT important to me.

My suggestions were simply my thoughts on making waiting times shorter and the search for new editors easier.

But typos and other 'blips' do happen. Sure, I'd like to be a 'Quizzyland' editor, but if that never happens, c'est la vie.

BTW, why do you think I'm a "Ms." Boogie? After all, Dr. Winston O'Boogie was a man (John Lennon). And, no, my waiting music quiz is not a Beatles quiz. There are far too many of those already.

Cheers,
WOBoogie
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 02:36 PM

Please, don't correct me for being redundant about correcting me if I'm wrong. Whoops. 'Blips' happen

wob
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 03:10 PM

Something to remember - if you save your quiz, after submission, it "resets the clock", putting the quiz back to the back of the queue. In smaller categories that doesn't matter much, as editors can see all the quizzes waiting in one glance and will notice a quiz that's been there fro a day or so suddenly at the bottom. However, in a category like Music, where it's not unusual to get a dozen or more submissions a day, once your quiz is out of sight, it's out of mind.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 03:57 PM

Quote:



BTW, why do you think I'm a "Ms." Boogie? After all, Dr. Winston O'Boogie was a man (John Lennon).




Well, your profile says 'female'...
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 04:46 PM

Hi WOBoogie,

I am sure you are a great writer and editor and that you would probably make a great editor here, however, I didn't see any evidence of Stu talking down to you there.

A requirement of being an editor, as I am sure you know, is to be able to get on well with others around the site and to prove that it takes a relatively long period of time.

By suggesting that Stu (a former editor) was talking down to you basically for stating the editorial selection process and furthermore politely answering the question you posed isn't particularly ingratiating.

Thanks,

Jon
Posted by: jordandog

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 06:04 PM

Well put, jon, and a good example of what the Editors put up with out of love for the site, condescending quiz writers. Just my opinion, but that's how it comes across.
Posted by: Nightmare

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 06:44 PM

Well Stu, I have to admit that was extremely well said. And it is not a matter of having more editors, it is a matter of having better authors who have read and understand the Quiz Creation Guidelines completely, and most importantly, understands the big picture of Quizzyland. Until this happens, some will never get the entire picture of the intent of a quality site. Btw Stu, I didn't think that you were talking down to anyone. This may be another of many cases that a member just doesn't get the entire picture of the site again. It really doesn't matter what any member's occupation is, unemployed or working at a fast food establishment, to being a rocket scientist, no one occupation qualifies a member to be a better writer than anyone else. The issue was brought up of this person being a writer and editor. This would have no bearing on the qualifications to understand the site's Quiz Creation Guidelines. When newspaper or magazine writers/editors do articles, they are written for that day or that month. That is time-stamped, meaning "at the time of the article". Time-stamped issues are not allowed in the site because after one day, the newspaper gets thrown out, and some statements in those articles will change. Quizzyland questions are structured to go on and on and on and on, like an un-named gum. It sticks to you and hangs in there forever. There are many little issues within the Quiz Guidelines that makes quizzes last forever, but this is just one of them that makes Quizzyland so credible. I have seen quizzes from members with down-syndrome to all types of handicaps, including authors using Polaris and JAWS. Those members take the extra step to try and understand the big picture of FunTrivia, and I have seen nothing but quality quizzes from them. I wish that everyone would really (sincerely) take the time to understand the whole picture of the site. Those who never get it, oh well. :-)
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 08:12 PM

Dear Nightmare,

I think I get the 'lay of the land' here at Quizzyland very well. Is the fact that I was asking logical, legitimate questions and making suggestions somehow offensive to you?

If so, I am sorry. That was not my intent. Also, my intent in explaining my background was NOT to express any feelings of 'superiority'; I was simply defending myself against what I saw as an unnecessary explanation of Quizzyland SOP.

No, it doesn't matter what a quiz writer's occupation is, but when it comes to editing and reviewing them, it should.

Personally, I won't apologize for my talents and attributes, but neither should anyone expect me to. Nor should anyone else apologize for the same set of qualities. I simply love what this site imparts and wanted to be part of it.

Certainly the rules should apply to everyone, me, you and anyone else who writes a quiz.

For the record, I've read quiz submission guidelines for each and every category listed--so why have I been painted as not doing so--when you really know so little about me except for what I've mentioned in this forum?

Some rather unfriendly things have been said, or implied, about me that are unwarranted. Is that being able to get along? For God's sake, I'm a nice, decent person who's not trying to condescend or insult anyone.

Cheers!
woboogie
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 08:55 PM

I think you're taking some of the answers a little too personally, WOBoogie. I don't think Nightmare or Stu were trying to say that you personally haven't read the guidelines, they were answering your question as to why authors can only submit one quiz at a time: because many of them don't read the guidelines, and it would be a waste of time for 4 different editors in 4 different categories to correct the same mistakes in 4 different quizzes. And, I think, pointing out that it is irrelevant that you are a writer/editor wasn't to be mean in any way, but just to say that it really doesn't make a difference here. Yes, it means that you might have better spelling and grammar skills that many other people, but how does it help you to know that you can't use punctuation in FITB or that you can't time-stamp your questions? Again, I am not trying to imply you didn't know that; good for you for reading all the guidelines, but again: many people don't.

As Stu said above, eventually authors who have really proven their ability to submit consistently good quizzes that do not need much editing are allowed to submit more than one quiz at a time (but I don't know you can ever submit more than two; I've never tried), but it takes more than 8 quizzes online to achieve that status, even if those 8 were very well-received.

All quiz authors know that it can be a bit frustrating waiting for a quiz that you've put so much work into, but the fact is that it just sometimes takes a bit longer. It might not even be that there are more submissions than usual this week, but maybe one or two of the editors have not been able to get online as much they would like for whatever reason. And as agony said, if you happened to go in and look at your quiz template, and then re-save it, then your time in queue re-sets. So for example, if you re-saved the quiz yesterday, the system will show that you only submitted it yesterday, not 10 days ago.
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 09:11 PM

GG,

I have 43 quizzes and 20 crosswords online and heck, I don't even know if I am able to submit two quizzes at a time! I think you have even more quizzes again and you may not be able to?

I have never tried it to be honest, I usually only compose one quiz at a time.

Boogie, all we are trying to emphasise here is it is nothing personal, it is just the way it is.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 26 2008 09:25 PM

I think maybe we need to get a note about the way resaving resets the quiz in the queue, into the main QCGs. So often, when I get an inquiry as to why a quiz is taking so very long to be looked at, this is the reason.

And, yes, stu is right - editing here takes an odd little mixture of skills, in a combination that not many people have; many of those who have them do not have the time or inclination to edit. Funny, you'd think they'd be beating down the doors for the opportunity to teach apostrophe usage to boy-band-obsessed 13 year olds....
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 04:17 AM

For the record, I do believe that things have gotten a bit beyond what I was trying to say initially.

And, all that I was trying to do is ask a few questions and make some suggestions (that I don't think were made out of ignorance or anything else...they were just suggestions.

I'm afraid this will probably always keep me from ever having a chance at becoming an editor, no matter how much I know about the site, the mechanics or anything relative to communication. I was simply trying to help.

Also, i agree, I don't think ALL the respondents were trying to belittle or impugn my background and abilities (save for one, which is sad, as I see much negativity in their post).

Is it not a good thing to try and be helpful and want to be useful in someway to something you truly care about? I don't think so.

Oh, and Agony, I think you're right. I didn't know that going in and editing a waiting quiz zips it back to the bottom. That would be a good point to make clear!

wob
Posted by: JuniorTheJaws

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 05:05 AM

For the record I have 138 quizzes online, and am an editor, and when I create and submit quizzes, they too have to sit in the queue just like every other quiz author.

The fact that editors have a red star next to their names means absolutely nothing in the scheme of having an editor review the quiz and hopefully place it online (even in the categories that we edit in).

Once our quizzes our in the queue, and we re-save it, the same thing happens, as with every other quiz author...the re-save trips it back to start (bottom), and we have to wait yet again.

The only thing that red star proves is that our quizzes are consistently good and that we know the guidelines...that's it.
Posted by: stuthehistoryguy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 05:19 AM

Quote:

Quote:



BTW, why do you think I'm a "Ms." Boogie? After all, Dr. Winston O'Boogie was a man (John Lennon).




Well, your profile says 'female'...




Yep, that would be the criteria.

And thanks to the other posters here for pointing out that none of my original remarks were directed toward any specific case - just the general circumstance. The preponderance of folks who experience long wait times have a history of substandard submissions. This isn't always the case, of course, but when one hears hoofbeats in Kentucky, it is best to look for horses as opposed to zebras.
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 06:54 AM

    >> Why can a quiz writer only submit one quiz at a time? I don't mean, say, six quizzes
    >> in one category, but one quiz in several categories?
The ban on multiple quizzes is not permanent .. see this post by Terry from July 06, when he amended the system: Submit More Than One Quiz
    >> If the queues are so long, why not bring more editors online for those categories with longer waiting
    >> times? As the editors are all volunteers, I should think monetary concerns are not at play here.
    >> However, at this time, no one can even fill out an application to be an editor.
    >>
    >> I've had a music quiz waiting now for about 10 days (which may not seem like long to some), but have
    >> other quizzes waiting to submit, because I love to write them and think I do a pretty good job of it!
The number of editors in this place are sufficient for the volume of quizzes submitted, and we don't consider that wait an unreasonable length of time. See also this post from last year re waiting times (in response to a query from another new author): How many submissions a week?

I've had a look at your quizzes. These were your turnaround times between submission and rejection\online:
    o 3½ hours
    o 6½ hours
    o almost a day (22½ hours), and then 13½ hours after resubmission
    o 4 hours, 18 hours, 21 hours, 18 hours, and then 2½ hours
    o one hour short of 3 days, 22 minutes, then 2½ hours
    o 4 days 12 hours
    o 1¼ hours
    o 2 days plus ½ hour, then 1 day 19½ hours
    o 10 days plus ¾ hour, then 11 minutes
Your waiting times haven't been that bad!
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 01:35 PM

Quote:

GG,

I have 43 quizzes and 20 crosswords online and heck, I don't even know if I am able to submit two quizzes at a time! I think you have even more quizzes again and you may not be able to?





I can submit more than one, but I've never tried doing more than two, except in a case where I already two in the queue, and then took a third offline to make some changes, and had to resubmit it. I also never got a notice or anything saying "you may now submit more than one quiz at a time", I just tried one day after reading a discussion about it, and found that it worked, so I really don't know when I got that ability (i.e. I don't know how many quizzes I had online at that point).
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 02:08 PM

gtho4,

Thanks for your super response. I didn't know you could look at wait times (unless that's an 'editor' privilege).

To be honest, I generally don't think the wait times are that long, but when you look at the queues list and see an approximate wait time of, say, 51-332 days (or some such), it's a bit shocking. So my original post was, as I explained, simply some suggestions to improve wait times (that didn't seem to be taken very well.)

But I'm really curious as to why there (seems to be) such a negative response to the suggestion of having a few more editors? I'm not being uppity (and try not to be), just genuinely curious.

Another thing to remember is, that while there are some hard and fast rules for grammar, style, syntax,etc., many are also judged according to an editor's personal taste. That can also take more time, but usually isn't worth quibbling about. (Spelling is something else entirely!)

Cheers!
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Mar 27 2008 02:14 PM

Hi Boogie

I think the waiting list times are incorrect. I think something is wrong with the algorithm resulting in the wild times. The waiting times are far shorter.
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 28 2008 09:12 AM

Hi jonnowales,

Excellent theory! It does seem like odd that wait times would be that 'gaping' in terms of time and, also, people would be less likely to submit if they thought it could be nearly a year before any decisions were made!

Besides, didn't I read somewhere that quizzes that sit longer than a certain length of time are deleted or sent back or some such? Or am I thinking of something else?

Cheers!
woboogie
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 28 2008 09:21 AM

Quote:

Besides, didn't I read somewhere that quizzes that sit longer than a certain length of time are deleted or sent back or some such? Or am I thinking of something else?





Perhaps what you're thinking about is quizzes under contruction that sit for months untouched. They may be deleted, either automatically by the system, or by an editor. This does not apply to quizzes which have been submitted and are in the queues.
Posted by: woboogie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 28 2008 09:38 AM

O.K. Thanks for clearing that up, Skunkee!

Cheers!
woboogie
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 28 2008 09:47 AM

Welcome
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 03 2008 04:57 PM

Yeah, im still waiting for my videogame quiz to be accepted or rejected, but I know that it ust be stressful having to go through everyone's quizzes, so I am just waiting patiently.
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Aug 05 2008 11:26 PM

Does anyone know if the waiting time shown for Hobbies is correct as I have had a quiz waiting for quite some time now. I had a correction notice which I responded to immediately but that was a couple of weeks ago now and I've heard nothing.

It's the first quiz I've written and if it is so bad it is never going to get onlne I'd rather someone told me than just leave it sitting in limbo
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 06 2008 12:09 AM

Hi Christina, you submitted your quiz on 28 July, which is a little over a week ago. I can assure you we will get to it, please be patient. And we do try and help authors to get their quizzes online, we never just leave quizzes in the queue hoping the quiz maker will forget about it being there!

Leau, editor
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 06 2008 12:56 AM

Thank you Leau, it seemed like longer than that
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 06 2008 02:53 PM

Can someone please check when I last submitted my "Jak 3" quiz because I don't remember...
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 06 2008 03:28 PM

You can check it for yourself. Go into the quiz edit screen and it will show you the quiz history. When you've created the quiz, if and when you've changed its title, and when you have submitted it. Just make sure you exit the edit screen without saving, otherwise your quiz will end up at the end of the queue again. (Every time you save your quiz while it's in the queue the resubmission date gets re-set.)
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 06 2008 03:38 PM

I think that explains why I thought I had been waiting for longer than it appears I have. I went into the edit screen but I saved when I came out of it, I didn't realise that sent it back to the end of the queue again, still I'll know next time!

Thank you for clearing that up Leau
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Aug 06 2008 04:05 PM

The confusing thing about it is that the "quiz submitted" line in your quiz's history is only created once, when you actually submit your quiz. Every time you save your quiz after that, the quiz is put at the end of the queue. However, no new line is added to the quiz history, the "quiz submitted" date in the history remains the same.

If you spot an error in your quiz after you've submitted it, please do fix it and save your quiz, even if that means sending it back to the end of the queue. The fewer errors your quiz contains when we get to it, the quicker it can be placed online!
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Aug 09 2008 07:18 PM

Sorry about the wait JP, our video games editors, myself included, have been on vacations for the past week and have not had the time to hop into the queue. The coincidence is unfortunate, but we hope to work through the queue over the next few days.
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Aug 09 2008 07:55 PM

Thanks for the info. I had a feeling that it was something like that. I am gald to hear that you are back!
_______________________________
JP1991, gamer and student
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Aug 26 2008 08:51 PM

Quick question. Is there a specific editor for the Manga section of literature, or is it any of the editors.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 06:34 PM

I have been having problems understanding how things end up being plagiarized. A team mate has been helping me to understand all of that better, but in the course of these errors I've made, I have been waiting, I believe, 43 days now for a quiz to go on line. I know we get, "punished" when we mess up, but I think this long wait is a bit overboard.

All I want to know, in a pleasant manner is...Where is my quiz?

Frustrating authors this way doesn't help matters any. Helping us to learn how to recognize when we are making serious mistakes would be more beneficial to both the site and the authors. I write some very good quizzes, now I have a road block that is, in my opinion, and this is no reflection on anyone, it is just my opinion...a road block that is somewhat overboard.

Perhaps you should POST how long the "Punishment" is for different infractions? Instead, you leave the authors hanging, wondering, feeling frustrated, feeling like giving up and quitting. I don't think FT wants that to happen, but it is a thin red line that probably some authors walk on, when this sort of thing happens.
Posted by: Pagiedamon

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 06:54 PM

Funnytrivianna, if you need further clarification about plagiarism, feel free to PM me. I'm an English instructor and plagiarism is something I have to explain to students all the time. And, often, people have no idea that they plagiarized or even what constitutes plagiarism. Finally, sometimes we glean data from so many resources that we can't remember if the words are our own or someone else's. I can give you a few tips (if you're interested) in how to avoid this. Good luck!
Posted by: JuniorTheJaws

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 06:58 PM

Giselle, you need to contact the editor that worked on the last quiz you submitted for an answer.

There are no "punishments" for quiz authors. As the editing staff has continually said it is all a matter of the quality and little editing that quizzes need.

However, I cannot stress enough to contact your the editor that handled your newest quiz submission.
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 07:05 PM

Funnytrivianna, you submitted your quiz on 27 August, that is a fortnight ago, not nearly 43 days.
By the way, we cannot post how long the 'punishment' is, just like we cannot post the wait for other quizzes as a constant, because it depends on the size of the queue.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 07:12 PM

If you are asking about your Scarecrow quiz, it shows as being submitted on Aug 27. If you hit 'save' on a quiz after it has been submitted, it goes back to the end of the queue.

As for plagiarism, there are a couple of quizzes in the Quizmaker's Tuneup section (in General) which outline FT policies. A rule of thumb - if it is not in your own words, it must be in quotation marks, with the source cited (or clearly understood, as in the case of song lyrics or quotations from books). Changing the tense of a few words, rearranging clauses - these do not count as using your own words.

We do not want a direct quotation from sources like Wikipedia, CD liner notes, book jackets, fansites, etc, even if you scrupulously cite the source - we want to hear what YOU have to say, not some anonymous hack. If you can't put a name to the quote, one that quiz players will likely be familiar with, then (on the whole) don't use it.

My advice to quiz authors is to never take notes by copying and pasting - always use a paper and pen, as then you will not be tempted to take more than the bare minimum. Then, wait a couple of days, so the wording used by the source material can fade from your mind.

We understand that the internet is rife with copying, and many newer quiz authors may not really understand our policies. Therefore, the "punishment", if you like, for first offences is pretty minor. However, we are considerably less understanding in the case of second and third offences. A third offence usually means suspension of quizwriting privileges, or termination of your account.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 07:46 PM

Are you suggesting that I am lying?

When one of my quizzes goes on line, I generally have one ready to submit that same day, as I am sure many authors do the same thing.
On June 30th my "Barbapapa" quiz went on line and I submitted my "Scarecrows Aren't What They Seem" quiz, that same day. Ask people on my team, how long I have been making remarks at how long this quiz is taking to be approved?

Proof:
4 Barbapapa
(edit) (delete) (notes) 1549 Ratings: 20
Good & Excellents: 18 (90%) Exc: 13 (65%), Good: 5 (25%) T Authors Difficult 99 Yes Jun 30 08

I am not sue how well the stats of when this quiz went on line will show and read correctly in this post.

On my team, we discuss our quizzes. Here is one of my statements from our team message board.

funnytrivianna

When is CC's quiz going to be on line? What's going on with that one, anyone? Kyle?

As for my group quiz, I can't submit it until my Scarecrows one goes on line, and I had to do a couple of corrections on it. I just resubmitted it about a half hour ago, so hopefully it will be fine now. We'll see. Once that happens, I'll submit our newest group quiz. Wooopieeeee! It is a fun one, especially......well, you'll have to wait and seeeeee!
Reply #662. Aug 27 08, 7:46 PM


On August 27th, my quiz was re-submitted. I know when I submitted it to begin with, it is even discussed on my team message board, that I submitted it.

Now, I'm not trying to be cheeky or argue about this. I do know summer is a tough time for quizzes, editors etc. But, I do know when my quiz was sent in, to begin with, and that it is taking an awfully long time to get approved.

Without authors, FT would not exist. I think that maybe this important point has been forgotten. It would be a lot better for an author to be given an idea as to where in the queue their quiz sits, something like 22nd out of 38 quizzes. Why are authors treated like we have no right to know where our quizzes stand? We are letting the site use our creations. Treating authors without enough concern and with too much omission of consideration is like a crack in the structure. All of a sudden the whole thing could crash down. Too often, problems are looked at, after the fact. I only hope that what I posted will somehow help to correct things a little bit.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 08:21 PM

It is my understanding, that when you have to do corrections, then you have to click "save" once you do the corrections and then you can resubmit the quiz. Which is what I did on August 27th, with the "Scarecrows" quiz. It took until then for the quiz to show up in need of corrections. One of the questions on this particular quiz, which was all in my own words, in the first place, about a scarecrow place in one of the Maritime Provinces, which I have been to, was suggested that it "could possibly" be plagiarized. So, I even re-worded my own words! How absurd is that?

To me a forum is a place where we can have an open discussion. This particular topic is about the length of time a quiz is in the queue. I discussed my point of view on that subject, in relation to what I am going through. Instead of a simple, "We'll look into it", I get accused of being a liar and of not knowing when I originally submitted the quiz.

I do hope that this particular discussion is not deleted, as I have noticed some others are. I am not accusing anyone of anything, other than questioning why the long delay. I even admitted to issues with plagiarism, for me, that I have to work out. I am not denying my errors here. I have not been rude, yet rudeness has been delivered to me.

Let's hope the matter can be resolved in a pleasant way, rather than an impulsive action or reaction.

Thanks.
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Sep 09 2008 10:02 PM

Funnytrivianna, first of all let me say that I have not seen any rude remarks by anyone, least of all directed at you. We do realise that FT wouldn't be what it is without quiz authors. However, that doesn't give the quiz authors carte blanche to do whatever they please. The system is set up so that quizzes from authors whose work is consistently error-free, will drift to the top of the queue quicker than quizzes from authors who keep plagiarising, don't spell-check their quizzes or don't follow our guidelines in other ways. If you only want the tyre pressure checked, you can usually get an appointment at the garage quicker than when your entire car needs to be looked at. The same goes for our quiz queue system.

Apart from that, yes, if you say your quiz has been submitted 43 days ago, and it has in fact only been since 27 August, then I think I did say you were lying.
When you submitted your quiz for the first time, it went to the bottom of the queue. (Just like you'd have to line up at the end of a queue to be served at any store.) Then you got a rejection note on your quiz, which you fixed. When you then resubmitted your quiz, it went back to the end of the queue, as it is seen as a new submission. (To stick with the store-metaphore: if you decide you forgot something, and go back to the store a few hours later, you have to wait in line again, you can't simply bypass everyone else who's waiting.)
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Sep 10 2008 05:18 AM

Leau, your analogy about tyre pressure is a good one. I liked that!

Obviously the math makes little sense, since it is 72 days since June 30, but I gave about a month of grace for this particular upset of mine.

After I had submitted the "Scarecrow" quiz another quiz of mine was returned to me with the suggestion of it having been plagiarized. I completely re-wrote that particular quiz (not at all happy about the suggestion and quite unhappy about the quiz quality dropping) (JTL-editor for that one, so Agnes may remember that) and resubmitted that one, hence two quizzes in the queue at the same time. I gave this fact consideration, since I could realize that only one of the two quizzes, at a time, could be edited. This surely created a lot of problems for me in the queue line as well.

Why do I feel like I'm on trial here? Good grief!

Anyway, quite obviously anyone can see I am quite frustrated, and the forums are a place we can ask questions. I may not be quite satisfied with the answers, however, answer some of you did. Carrying on the matter serves no purpose really.

Some of you have been helpful and I will take that advice, with appreciation.

It is suggested that I contact the editor? In rules somewhere on this site, it says we are not to contact the editor. With respect, I don't do that. Instead, I came to this forum to see if I would get any real answers. I was given some advice, but no real answer for the very long amount of time, that this quiz is in the queue line. I was given possible reasons, so, I guess that is all there is, only possibilities but no answers.

Thanks, all the same, for trying to help out with this question. It is all too easy to misunderstand things that are in print, such as on this forum thread. For this reason, I am going to say thank you, again and let this be my final comments on this issue...for now!

Hugssssss
Gizmo
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Sep 10 2008 07:01 AM

Now that I know how to check, submission date etc. without affecting the quiz, it was submitted July 17. I apologize for thinking it was June 30th. It was returned for repairs, also was switched around from categories, at one point, by one editor. I think three or four different editors have handled this quiz, so who do I ask about it then? It has been a real problem quiz, that's for sure!
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Sep 10 2008 09:22 AM

Just in response to it saying somewhere that you shouldn't contact the editors, I think what you're referring to is where it is suggested not to pester the editors about your quiz in the queue, i.e. do not submit a quiz and then every day for a week send a note saying "Is my quiz being looked at yet??"

I think, if you truly feel you have been waiting too long, no one would mind one polite note inquiring about your quiz.

And also, I would say in the case where more than one editor handled your quiz, if you have a question about it, ask the one who was last dealing with it. If necessary, he or she would refer you to someone else.
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Sep 10 2008 04:37 PM

http://www.plagiarism.org/

It's a good site I've referred several authors to before.
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Sep 10 2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Now that I know how to check, submission date etc. without affecting the quiz, it was submitted July 17. I apologize for thinking it was June 30th. It was returned for repairs, also was switched around from categories, at one point, by one editor. I think three or four different editors have handled this quiz, so who do I ask about it then? It has been a real problem quiz, that's for sure!




The point is that your quiz was originally submitted on 16 July, but has been in and out of the queue since then. It was returned for corrections AND resubmitted by you on the 19th, returned again for corrections AND once more resubmitted by you on the 20th. The latest rejection on your quiz was on 25 August, after which you resubmitted on 27 August.
As I tried to explain before, it does NOT matter what the original submission date of your quiz was. The latest date determines the position in the queue. Say you go to the shop, buy your groceries, go home and realise you forgot to buy milk. So you go back to the store. Nobody is going to let you jump to the front of the queue just because you were already in that store earlier in the day. The same goes for quizzes.

So to summarise, your quiz has been waiting since 27 August.
Posted by: Willow_Willow

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Without authors, FT would not exist. I think that maybe this important point has been forgotten. It would be a lot better for an author to be given an idea as to where in the queue their quiz sits, something like 22nd out of 38 quizzes. Why are authors treated like we have no right to know where our quizzes stand? We are letting the site use our creations. Treating authors without enough concern and with too much omission of consideration is like a crack in the structure.




Too true, it seems, from the many posts I have read on the forums and chats over the past year. Another reason why I'm way too hot-headed to attempt to write a quiz here.

However, I would like to add, just as an observer, that it would be nice if editors occasionally treated frustrated authors with kinder, gentler words. A little kindness goes a long way in easing frustration. Remember the old catching more flies with honey adage?

Regardless of all of this, this site is awesome, and I absolutely love it. Thank you, Terry!
Posted by: BxBarracuda

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 09:21 AM

I thought that once an editor reviewed a quiz that it came out of the queue and was then assigned to that editor.

Every quiz I have had corrections on, which have been more then a few times for a single quiz, the same editor has always been the one to do any reviewing of the quiz, not mulitiple editors.

I am sure each editor to some degree has thier own style and things they look for in a quiz. As well as ideas in terms of what might make a quiz better.

It could get a bit confusing with multiple editors working on the same quiz with different points of view.
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 10:10 AM

Quote:

However, I would like to add, just as an observer, that it would be nice if editors occasionally treated frustrated authors with kinder, gentler words. A little kindness goes a long way in easing frustration. Remember the old catching more flies with honey adage?





Since you, by your own admission, have never attempted a quiz, how do you know how editors treat quiz writers? You are going simply on the basis of what a few disconcerted people have told you, without substantiated proof or any knowledge of how rude that person might have been to the editor first.
You would be surprised at how wound up some people get when you ask them to make changes to their quizzes, no matter how politely you ask. Some immediately go off on a tear about how their quiz is so much better than lots of quizzes they have played and they have no idea why we are picking on them. If you listen only to their side of the story, you have no grasp of the real dynamics of quiz editing.

Perception is such an interesting thing. I can send a Correction Note to one writer and be thanked for my thoroughness and what I have taught them about quiz writing. I can send almost the identical note to another quiz writer and get accused of being rude and picky and demanding too much.

BxBarracuda not every category at FunTrivia edits the same way. Some indeed do have an editor do an exclusive edit of the quizzes they start, while others do not. In Movies if an editor does what we refer to as a general edit, then the next time the quiz is submitted anyone else can pick it up. A general edit would be one in which we might tell you that questions requiring a numeric answer are not allowed, or explain to you the requirements for Interesting Information sections, for example. However once an editor begins a detailed edit of a quiz, then it is usually left for them to complete unless they are away on holidays, are ill or have otherwise requested that someone else take the quiz on.

Edited to add;
Even when it is assigned to a specific editor, it still has to go through the queue and that editor still has a number of other quizzes also assigned to them, as well as having to work with the new quizzes submitted.
Posted by: BxBarracuda

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 10:15 AM

That makes sense, Thanks
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 04:24 PM

For Television (where I know you recently submitted a quiz), we try to let the first editor who saw your quiz continue editing it when it comes back in the queues. In my opinion, it's easier as you don't need to go through the entire quiz again generally and we all edit differently.

However, if something happened where an editor wanted to go out of town or wanted another editor's opinion, anyone can edit the quiz.
Posted by: darthrevan89

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Too true, it seems, from the many posts I have read on the forums and chats over the past year. Another reason why I'm way too hot-headed to attempt to write a quiz here.

However, I would like to add, just as an observer, that it would be nice if editors occasionally treated frustrated authors with kinder, gentler words. A little kindness goes a long way in easing frustration. Remember the old catching more flies with honey adage?





Willow_Willow, I don't know whose posts you have been reading but I'd like to share some positive experiences with quizmaking. I have seven quizzes online, placed by four different editors, and each time it's been a breeze. Everyone (on both sides, meaning editor & myself) has been very nice. My first quiz was placed online without a hitch by LeoDaVinci, from whom I received a very nice compliment about the quiz. The one time I received a correction notice (from Agony), I promptly fixed the problem and my quiz was submittedly in a timely manner.

So basically, I'd have to say that if you remember that the editors are only human and treat them as such, and especially if you do a decent job editing your own quiz before submitting, "hot-headedness" should not stop you from submitting a quiz. From my (albeit limited) experience, the FT editors are nice, helpful people. Thank you all for doing such a great job.

p.s. It might, however, be a nice improvement to see where your quizzes stand in the queue ...
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

p.s. It might, however, be a nice improvement to see where your quizzes stand in the queue ...




From a quizmaker's point of view, I can see how this would be nice. It's not as straightforward as it seems though, due to certain editors having certain specialties. Let me give you an example.

I edit in the World category, which houses the language quizzes. As I am the only native Dutch speaker among the editing staff, quizzes about the Dutch language are generally left for me to edit. So even if one of those quizzes would be at the top of the queue, other editors will look at other quizzes first and leave the Dutch one untouched. So then, if you knew your quiz was number one in the queue, it wouldn't mean anything, because other quizzes could be dealt with first, for reasons that you would be unaware of. And you can just imagine the notes we editors would receive if an author saw another quiz in the same category go online when their quiz was said to be number one in the queue!

Edited to fix rather embarrassing typo
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 11 2008 09:16 PM

Other issues come into play, too. Most of the editors are working people with families. This means that we seldom get a good solid block of time in which to work here. Instead, we often grab 15 minutes here and 10 there. Say I only have five more minutes to do some editing, before I have to leave for work. I look in the queue, and see a quiz near the top that I have sent back once already, with many issues to be dealt with - the correction note I sent was 6 inches long. Halfway down the queue I see a quiz that also had been sent back by me, that was perfect except for one minor change. Which one do you think I'll grab?

Sometimes editors need to discuss a quiz - the subject is controversial, say, and the original editor wonders if it should be accepted. Or it's a difficult-to-categorize subject. It might take several days for everyone concerned to get a chance to weigh in.

We do try to follow a rough 'first come first served' system, but we can't promise to edit in strict order - too many other factors come into play.
Posted by: Quiz_Beagle

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Sep 12 2008 01:56 PM

I agree with darthrevan89 Dealing with editors and getting quizzes published is nearly always a great experience. I made mistakes in the early days and once there was a failure in communication (which was probably my fault) but 99.9% of the time I have had nothing but help and encouragement. Yay to editors is what I say!
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Sep 15 2008 04:08 PM

Quick question. I have been marked as having quizzes that are not up to standards. Does that mean that when I submit a quiz it will go all the way to the back of the queue and other quiz-writer's quizzes that are submitted after that can be placed in front of it?
Posted by: jordandog

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Sep 15 2008 05:46 PM

jp,
Leau's response above, #1020630, covers that very clearly.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Sep 15 2008 06:03 PM

It is possible that repeated submission of substandard quizzes can result in longer delays.
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 25 2008 03:43 PM

Quick question. If I create a second quiz while I still have a quiz in the ques, should I put "Please do not delete" in the title just in case it takes a while for the first quiz to go online?
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Sep 25 2008 05:20 PM

"Please do not delete" in the title is insurance against a quiz being deleted after it has sat untouched for several months. If you're actively working on it (touching up a question here, filling in an info section there), there's no problem -- it won't be deleted. Although an individual quiz might take months to go online (depending on how extensive the corrections are and how thoroughly the quizmaker revises the quiz), it'll never spend months in the queue on a single go-round.

So the short answer is: no, it's not necessary, unless you're planning to leave the second quiz alone for a long time. But it doesn't hurt anything, either, so feel free to do it if it gives you more confidence that your quiz will be safe. (Just make sure that you change the title back at submission time!)
Posted by: Hermit007

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Sep 29 2008 10:28 AM

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Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Oct 02 2008 01:21 PM

Hahahahahahaha! Hermit, that is funny! You lightened up an often times hot topic. Thanks! That was sweet!
Posted by: Triviaballer

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Oct 04 2008 03:00 PM

So hypothetically, what should an author do if he/she submitted a quiz on the Azores three weeks ago that hasn't been edited or received any response and he/she has sent a nice message to an editor in the category about the quiz?
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Oct 04 2008 03:10 PM

Hypothetically, one should be patient, because the nice editor might have been away
Posted by: watergirlcutie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Oct 04 2008 05:50 PM

Wow...authors can hypothetically be made to wait 3 weeks for a *response* b/c one editor is away? (Shakes head)
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 05 2008 07:03 AM

Quote:

Wow...authors can hypothetically be made to wait 3 weeks for a *response* b/c one editor is away? (Shakes head)




If the editor who has the most knowledge on a subject is away that long, then yes, it could take that long. The editing staff knows who is most knowledgeable on certain subjects, and said editor edits those type quizzes.
Posted by: JuniorTheJaws

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 05 2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Wow...authors can hypothetically be made to wait 3 weeks for a *response* b/c one editor is away? (Shakes head)




If the editor who has the most knowledge on a subject is away that long, then yes, it could take that long. The editing staff knows who is most knowledgeable on certain subjects, and said editor edits those type quizzes.




Dave, I know you are trying to help, but you are not an editor on the staff, and by giving sometimes incorrect information, it only confuses the quiz authors.The editing staff respectfully ask that you allow us to respond to these types of questions.

The editing staff, in most cases will not let an author wait that long. However, with the notes that we do, another editor can step in to edit the quiz if necessary.
Posted by: Rowena8482

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 05 2008 03:42 PM

Plus, the editors are all Volunteers, they do the editing because they WANT to, not because they get paid, or get anything at all out of it, other than headaches and the satisfaction of seeing the site successful - and hopefully a word of thanks every so often....
I did actually ask if sending a "thank you" was OK to an editor who has put one of my quizzes online as I was worried about adding to the sheer volume of messages they must get every day, and was reassured that it is always welcome for them to know their efforts are appreciated.
Frankly I don't know how they do it, when you look at how many quizzes go online, and how few "errors" make it past their eagle eyes it is just amazing.
Posted by: Nightmare

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 05 2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Plus, the editors are all Volunteers, they do the editing because they WANT to, not because they get paid, or get anything at all out of it, other than headaches and the satisfaction of seeing the site successful - and hopefully a word of thanks every so often....



Thanks Rowena. It is not just the editors. There are a bevy of people in here as moderators, tipping comp people, and others. We are all one. We do not get paid with any compensation, except the feelings and satisfaction that we help so many, and at times it can be pretty tough working with some people that have no clue. I pretty much blow off comments made by those that are unqualified to do so, and just throw out unjustified negativity. This particular person who caught my eye has played only 44 quizzes in almost 6 months, never attempted to author a quiz, but yet 'shakes their head'. Isn't it amazing on how people can judge others when they've been barefooted all their life? I can speak from personal experience, that every editor and moderator is more than the stereotypical 'dedicated' to this site. There are always those who don't even have a little glimpse of everything that the staff does in here, who are not qualified to make even a keystroke comment about it, but yet feel they have a qualified voice. No problem Rowena. I brush them off like dandruff. Thanks. :-)
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 05 2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

I brush them off like dandruff. Thanks. :-)




Posted by: funnybuni

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 14 2008 04:46 PM

This thread is so incredibely helpful - I have only 2 quizzes online. My first one had to have a lot of corrections and my second, two or three. I hope that my next only needs one or two (I'm not going to get my hopes any higher than that!).
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Oct 18 2008 07:24 PM

I would just like to know why there have not been many videogame quizzes placed online lately. Is it due to poor quality submissions, or is a specialized person needed for certain topics?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 19 2008 01:59 PM

Hi jp1991, recently I have been working at my university midterms and have not had the time to jump into either of my queues to edit. As well, because many of our younger contributors have made their way back to school over the past month, there has been a slight decrease in submissions over the past little bit of time. Rest assured, quizzes will be edited, I plan to get most of them edited today before I start an eight page paper on Rhetoric...yay. Rhetoric. My favourite.

Keep your eye on the new quizzes list; there will be some over the next little while.
Posted by: funnybuni

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Oct 25 2008 06:56 PM

I just want to say;

A). The editors get through submissions surprisingly FAST. It is quite amazing, actually, that they aren't chained to their computers to get it all done! Good job, all!

B). We need to remember to thank our kind editors! Without authors, yes, the site would not exist. But without the EDITORS, the quizzes would not be worth playing!

C). This thread proves to be most helpful to my quiz making. I have had lots of success my past three quizzes, thanks to studying what advice the editors have given here!
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 26 2008 02:27 PM

Ironically, I use the site as both a way to spend free time, and a way to keep my mind off the studies I should be doing. Double-edged sword, but I swear it's for the better.
Posted by: Nightmare

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 26 2008 05:40 PM

You have free time? Please send me some. :-)
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 26 2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

You have free time? Please send me some. :-)




Can I have half of it, Nightmare?
Posted by: funnybuni

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Oct 26 2008 08:42 PM

you guys can have 48% of mine, but I might want it back later.
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 17 2008 10:44 AM

I am sorry if this seems like pestering, but I would like to know who is the editor who covers the common bond subcategory for general so I know who I will be working with. I am sorry if I am being a bit nosy.
Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 17 2008 05:00 PM

Your quiz hasn't been assigned to an editor yet. It looks like you submitted it on the 14th and again today. Be aware than when you make changes to a quiz after it's in the queue, it "resents the clock" to the date you make the changes; thus your wait can actually be less than you think it is.
Posted by: jp1991

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 17 2008 05:03 PM

Ok thanks, I wasn't sure if it gets assigned to an editor right away or if it was whoever edits it first.
Posted by: poshprice

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 03:41 PM

I would just like to say that all of the editors do an excellent job editing quizzes. Yes, if we are waiting for our own quiz to be put online it can feel like the longest wait in the world, but just think about the work that goes into editing. There have been occasions when I have felt really impatient, and during those time I try to think of some really exciting topics for me to create a quiz on. I now have 17 quizzes online and I have learnt from every single one them, and from the editors who have guided me. So, I would just like to say thank you to all of the editors and wish everyone a safe and happy holidays.
Posted by: Quiz_Beagle

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 03:49 PM

Hear, hear! Special Christmas wishes to all our hard-working Editors!
Posted by: IcrPortugal

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 06:43 PM

I'm not complaining, I am just wondering. When people sign up for FunTrivia are they assigned a specific editor? I like to make sports quizzes, I have 5 of them online and all of them have been put online or sent back to me by the same editor. Is it like that for a reason or is it sort of like the luck of the draw?
Thanks
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 07:32 PM

If you look near the top of the page in the various categories, you will see a list of editors in that category. Your editor will be one of them.

Some categories save certain quizzes for certain editors - for example, I edit in the For Children category, but I only do the Kid's Lit quizzes. In other categories, it's just a case of whichever editor happens by taking the first quiz in the queue. Usually, once a quiz has been seen by one editor, that one will continue until the quiz gets online.
Posted by: IcrPortugal

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 07:38 PM

Yeah, there are usually 4 or 5 editors in each category. I am happy with the editor I have been getting, but what about the others was my question.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 07:47 PM

Each quiz is a new submission, and could be picked up by any editor in that category. We go by quiz, not by author.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 07:48 PM

If all your quizzes are about the same aspect of sports, then it makes sense that the same editor has looked at all of them. Like, if they're all about US Sports, then that's one of Nightmare's areas of expertise, so he would be the one who would look at them.
Posted by: IcrPortugal

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 08:17 PM

Ok, thanks! Even though my quizzes are on European football and Nightmare is the editor I have been getting.
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 21 2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Ok, thanks! Even though my quizzes are on European football and Nightmare is the editor I have been getting.




Nightmare's eloquent on about everything he does, and is very fair. He is extremely knowledgeable on US Sports, as GG said, but he's proficient on other sports as well.
Posted by: EnglishJedi

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Dec 28 2008 11:16 AM

I now have 50 quizzes online. Most of the time, I send them off and get a note a day or two later to say they've been posted. Sometimes I get a correction back and just occasionally we'll have a real discussion about a particular question.
Universally, though, I would like to thank every Editor for the excellent (and thankless) job that they do on this site and wish every one a Happy New Year.
Long may it continue.

Marc (EnglishJedi)
Posted by: scalar

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 10:38 AM

There doesn't seem to be any other place or more direct way to express my disappointment that my 38th quiz is now in its 8th day waiting for approval.
There were times when I would submit a quiz in the afternoon and see it up in the morning.
This long delay makes me think there may be a glitch somewhere.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 11:06 AM

Your quiz is in the appropriate queue, showing a submit date only two days ago. Each time you make even a minor change to your quiz, and resave it, it gets a new date stamp and goes to the end of the queue.

As to a "glitch", it is probably something called "Christmas holidays"

Spanishliz - Editor in Movies, Geography, Sports and Crosswords
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 11:06 AM

That glitch just might be the fact that editors are volunteers and the last 8 days have been over Christmas holidays.

Edited to add - we must have been posting at the same time Liz!
Posted by: Bruyere

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 11:29 AM

Hello neighbor up there in Mendocino County!
Indeed, it's the holidays that have slowed us down a bit.

As to the former quick turnaround though, it is probably because your quiz did not require a lot of editing and while looking through the queue, an editor said 'oh, let's have a quick look' and released it if it looked like it was ready.

Although I do go on a first come first serve basis in principal when I edit, if the quiz on the top of the list requires a major overhaul or more than a few corrections, I'll try to quickly scan the list for quizzes that are ready to free up the time for the ones that require more work for one reason or another.

So if you've got a good reputation for submitting work that doesn't require much attention, you stand to pass through more easily.

Right now however, it's the holidays playing havoc with my attention! And I've been working throughout at my 'day job'.

Heather aka Bruyere
Posted by: Pagiedamon

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 12:11 PM

All of you editors do an amazing job! I hope you enjoyed your holidays!
Posted by: scalar

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 01:32 PM

Thanks for the replies. I was just feeling like my most recent quiz had fallen in a black hole.
I think I did get a good reputation for "quizzes ready to go" and maybe a year off affected that.
I would like to point out the the "Edit" page for each quiz (non-archived) says "Save often." What it doesn't say, but Spanish Liz does, it that clicking on that button puts that quiz back at the end of the line. I guess it only takes once to learn that lesson!
Posted by: SilverMoonsong

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 02:20 PM

Saving often is very important, however, it won't affect your submit date until you've submitted the quiz to the editors. Once you submit it for approval, if you make any changes at all it will make that the new save/submit date and bump it down the queue.

Do all your editing and changing and saving before submitting to the editors, then wait until you get a response back.
Posted by: jordandog

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 31 2008 06:03 PM

scalar,
Considering the fact I have played 23 of your quizzes and really enjoyed them, would it make you feel a little better to know I can't wait for the next one?!
Posted by: scalar

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 02 2009 04:07 PM

Well, it's up and running. Thanks Bruyere!
Happy New Year, all.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 07 2009 05:47 PM

Just curious about something, regarding queue length:

When the message comes up that says there are currently too many submissions in this category, try again soon or choose a different topic, does the number that it gives refer to crosswords only if you get that message in the create a crossword section?

For example, I recently got this message when trying to create a Television crossword. It said that there were currently 87 (or somewhere around there) submissions in that category. Does that mean 87 total crosswords, or 87 crosswords and quizzes in the TV category? It seemed like a really high number for just crossword submissions...
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 07 2009 06:32 PM

There currently aren't any TV crosswords submitted.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 07 2009 07:08 PM

Oh.. I guess that means that there a lot of TV quizzes submitted then, because the system wouldn't allow me to create a crossword in the Television category.
Posted by: SilverMoonsong

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 08 2009 03:55 AM

gg,

That was a bug which Terry says has now been fixed. Try again.

SM
Posted by: clarod

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 08 2009 03:46 PM

hope this works. im new here.

i have submitted a quiz on the 19th dec, and have had nothing at all from the editors. i did edit it once around the same time, but i have had no anowledgement of receipt of the quiz.
this is showing on the edit quiz tab
"Dec 19 08 [12:37 PM] : clarod : Quiz Submitted for Editor Review! (quiz never played before)

i have one note for this quiz telling me i couldnt submit until my other quiz was online. this is now online.

also wondering, i have six quizzes waiting to be online, but cannot submit more than 1 at a time, so am getting slightly annoyed.

Edited to change topic title back to original
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 08 2009 03:59 PM

Hi Clare, welcome to the forums.

If your quiz shows that it has been submitted, as you quoted in your post, it means it is in the queue. The system isn't set up to acknowledge the receipt of quizzes in any other way than through that little note. And there are simply too many quizzes submitted every day for the editors to manually send out receipts. Rest assured though that your quiz is in the queue waiting to be seen by an editor.

You might not have realised that all editors here at Funtrivia are volunteers, which means that, especially when there are holidays, their real lives take precedence over their editing tasks. Many of the editors have been away over Christmas. Also, because of the summer holidays in the southern hemisphere and the Christmas holidays in the northern hemisphere there have been many more quiz submissions than usual. This also leads to a longer wait.

While you're waiting for your music quiz to get reviewed by an editor, why not go over the other quizzes you have lined up to double check that they're error-free? That way they'll be extra ready by the time your music quiz gets online.

Leau, editor
Posted by: Nightmare

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 08 2009 04:31 PM

Great suggestion by Leau too! I took at peek at your quiz, and it shows that it was submitted 31Dec, not the 19th. This may be the typical issue because an author goes into their quiz while being submitted, and makes one little tiny change. When the author saves their "new change", the system recognizes it as a new quiz submitted, thus bumping the quiz to the bottom of the list. One way to alleviate this is to make absolutely sure that a quiz is ready for submission, with no second-guessing, then let the editors have it. Be patient and let the editors work with you.

Also, and as Leau mentioned, while you're waiting for a quiz in submission, you can go through your others to be sure you won't second-guess yourself after you submit those. Good luck with your quizzes. :-)

--Nightmare, Sports Editor
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 08 2009 07:23 PM

Quote:

gg,

That was a bug which Terry says has now been fixed. Try again.

SM




Thanks, works now!
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jan 27 2009 08:57 PM

I just wanted to say thanks to the editors for their hard work and for putting up with so many "sad" mistakes I've made when constructing quizzes. Because of errors and such, I do have to wait longer for my quizzes to be looked at, before they eventually go on line. My own understanding is that, when an author makes repeated errors then that author's quizzes take longer to be looked at.

My question is, how long does the "waiting longer" period of time last? I know that my quizzes take a lower priority, due to errors in the past, but how many error free quizzes do I need to submit so that my waiting time returns to a more normal length of time?

I did submit a quiz to Hobbies, on January 8th. I have heard no feedback from the editor on this one.

Thanks, in advance, if you can answer my question.
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 01:39 AM

Your quiz shows up in the queue with a date stamp of 26 January. I can see in the quiz log that you did submit it on the 8th though. Every time you go into the edit screen of your quiz and re-save it while it's in the queue, it gets a new date stamp and drops to the bottom of the queue. This also happens when an editor changes the category of your quiz or makes any other changes and then saves the quiz.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 06:06 AM

Quote:

Your quiz shows up in the queue with a date stamp of 26 January. I can see in the quiz log that you did submit it on the 8th though. Every time you go into the edit screen of your quiz and re-save it while it's in the queue, it gets a new date stamp and drops to the bottom of the queue. This also happens when an editor changes the category of your quiz or makes any other changes and then saves the quiz.





I have not re-saved this quiz at all. I go check the status, but do not touch anything, especially not buttons of saving, etc, because I do know about that. I have been simply waiting since January 8th. Is it possible that if I click edit to go check the status, that this is having an effect on the quiz as well? I have gone and edited a different quiz, does that have an effect on all quizzes?]

Now I am leery of going back to check again, in case just looking sends the quiz back to the back of the queue. I assure you, I have not clicked on anything at all. Could there be a different problem happening?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 10:06 AM

As far as I know, you can go back and look at the quiz template. The queue timer only resets if you hit 'save'.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 11:53 AM

Thanks, Kyle. Then I do not understand how a date stamp of Jan. 26 is attached to this quiz, when I have not done anything, or clicked the save button for this quiz. I guess I just keep waiting then!
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 11:55 AM

I dared to go and look, taking the risk, and there is no date stamp on this quiz, after January 8, that is visible to me. I do not understand what is being said about a January 26 date stamp then.

Somebody please explain this. Thanks!
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

This also happens when an editor changes the category of your quiz or makes any other changes and then saves the quiz.




Does this mean that an editor can look at a quiz, see who the creator is, decide that they just don't want to check that particular quiz yet, because they assume, from past quizzes, that this creator probably has a lot of errors again, so THEY date stamp it and send it to the end of the queue line? The creator never knows this is happening, because it does not show in our log, when we go to see if anything is happening with the quiz?

I do hope I am wrong about thinking like this, but I am wanting to know why my quiz has a date stamp of Jan. 26, when I have not done this and it does not show in my quiz log.
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 12:02 PM

The January 26 date stamp probably wouldn't be visible to you. The quizzes in the queue (which is only visible to editors) are roughly sorted by the date on which the last change was made, which is displayed (to editors) as part of the quiz information. That's the date Leau mentioned.
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Does this mean that an editor can look at a quiz, see who the creator is, decide that they just don't want to check that particular quiz yet, because they assume, from past quizzes, that this creator probably has a lot of errors again, so THEY date stamp it and send it to the end of the queue line? The creator never knows this is happening, because it does not show in our log, when we go to see if anything is happening with the quiz?




I'd be extremely surprised if that happened, ever. For one thing, an editor doesn't need to open a quiz to see who created it -- we can see that information without opening the quiz. Editors will often change their minds about editing a quiz after taking a quick look (maybe they need another editor's expert opinion, or that particular quiz takes more time than they have available at the moment) but it makes no sense to go through and maliciously save the quiz again; it's much easier to close the window or back out.

There's also no point in sending a quiz to the back of the queue for punishment. When a QM is having problems (as shown by the appearance of the green screen), the delay in having a quiz looked it is automatic -- the editors aren't involved with it at all. Sending a quiz to the back of the queue again doesn't accomplish anything; the eds will still have to look at it at some point!

We may be volunteers but we do try to do our job in a professional way.

It's worth noting that the save button can sometimes be clicked accidentally, by hitting the ENTER key at the wrong point.

CellarDoor
Editor -- Music, Humanities, Religion
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 12:47 PM

I am not making accusations or implying malicious intent has taken place at all. My apologies if it was taken as such.

I am wanting to know why this quiz has a date stamp of January 26th, when I have not touched it to make a change since I submitted it on January 8th. I have clicked the edit button, to go and see if there were any notes after the submission date, and upon seeing none, have left that page without ever clicking save, submit or anything.

If an editor time stamps the quiz, for some reason, shouldn't the creator be informed, somehow, as to when and why?

If things are that sensitive, that the quiz can be sent back to the end of the queue if you "It's worth noting that the save button can sometimes be clicked accidentally, by hitting the ENTER key at the wrong point." do this, then shouldn't that be fixed? I really don't think this is what has happened, in this case, but wonder who it has happened to. If this is happening, it needs to be fixed, I would think.

Anyway, I am off working on another interesting quiz, with a lot of research to be had. Thanks for your input.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 01:20 PM

If you don't make a significant change, the date that you see doesn't change. Same as when you are editing a quiz that you have not yet submitted. The 'quiz history' at the top of every quiz only updates if you change the title or the category, it doesn't create a new entry every time you write a new question or add interesting info or whatever. So if, for an example an editor starts editing your quiz and fixes a typo or two and re-saves, you wouldn't see in the quiz history that that happened. It could be that you submitted your quiz on the 8th, an editor started looking at it on the 26th, only got halfway through and is coming back to it at another time. (Though I'm not saying that is what happened, because I believe if an editor starts editing a quiz and has to leave it for a day or two, they mark it with their name, or do let the other editors know in some way that they started on it).
Posted by: darthrevan89

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 01:27 PM

Quote:

If things are that sensitive, that the quiz can be sent back to the end of the queue if you "It's worth noting that the save button can sometimes be clicked accidentally, by hitting the ENTER key at the wrong point." do this, then shouldn't that be fixed? I really don't think this is what has happened, in this case, but wonder who it has happened to. If this is happening, it needs to be fixed, I would think.




I think CellarDoor was just mentioning the fact that, on virtually any site, "Enter" will activate the 'big gray button' (I'm not sure what else to call it). Like on Google: you type something in the search box and hit "Enter" to activate the search button. If you were in the habit of using Backspace to return to the previous page, you might press "Enter" by mistake and your page gets saved. It's not really a problem with the page.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 02:12 PM

Thank you guitargoddess! Your reply has made a lot of sense. I had not thought about that possibility either.

I do know that quiz authors are anxious to see their creations appear on line, and many wonder why there are delays that seem endless from the author's perspective. Two weeks is not a long time waiting at all. I had wondered about the time stamping and your response makes sense. I am happy that I was given some form of a straightforward response.

Thanks!

Darthrevan89, that reply makes sense as well, but I did not press enter at any time either, but I imagine many do without realizing it.

Thanks for your nice reply too!
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 03:22 PM

It is possible that the quiz was moved to the correct category by an editor who did not have time to edit further just then. This would have reset the quiz.

Note - I don't know that this happened, just that it could be one explanation. The first thing that I do when looking at a quiz is to categorize it properly. If I then see that there are other problems that maybe need more time, the category change would be enough to send the quiz to the back of the queue. In my own categories, I try to be aware of this, and get back to that particular quiz quickly. However, we are only human beings, and mistakes happen.
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

If you don't make a significant change, the date that you see doesn't change. Same as when you are editing a quiz that you have not yet submitted. The 'quiz history' at the top of every quiz only updates if you change the title or the category, it doesn't create a new entry every time you write a new question or add interesting info or whatever. So if, for an example an editor starts editing your quiz and fixes a typo or two and re-saves, you wouldn't see in the quiz history that that happened. It could be that you submitted your quiz on the 8th, an editor started looking at it on the 26th, only got halfway through and is coming back to it at another time. (Though I'm not saying that is what happened, because I believe if an editor starts editing a quiz and has to leave it for a day or two, they mark it with their name, or do let the other editors know in some way that they started on it).




It doesn't matter if the change is significant or not... or even if you make a change. As long as you hit the 'save' button on the quiz edit screen, you get a new 'submitted' date.

This is because the computer doesn't know how to distinguish between a quiz that is newly submitted to the queue or one that is being saved.

If an editor does go into your quiz and does some edits, they will not wait for it to come back to the top of the queue to edit as that wouldn't be fair.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

If an editor does go into your quiz and does some edits, they will not wait for it to come back to the top of the queue to edit as that wouldn't be fair.





If this is the case, shouldn't that show up in the author's page, so the author knows that an editor has done something to their quiz? Shouldn't it show which changes the editor may have done, so the author is aware of what is going on? If an editor makes changes, are they not doing the editing? Shouldn't they be completing the editing, once they start it?
Posted by: Leau

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Shouldn't they be completing the editing, once they start it?




It's not a question of what the editors should or should not do. Fact is, editors have lives. Kids might need attention, the phone might ring and this might happen right in the middle of editing a quiz. Better to save whatever editing has been done up to that point than to back out of the quiz for the sake of the time stamp.

Quote:

Shouldn't it show which changes the editor may have done, so the author is aware of what is going on?




What does it matter if you know the editor fixed a certain typo? If your quiz's category or its title has been changed, you can see it in the quiz log. All other things are either too insignificant to mention, or they'll be specified in the rejection/acceptance note once the editing is complete.

Quote:

It doesn't matter if the change is significant or not... or even if you make a change. As long as you hit the 'save' button on the quiz edit screen, you get a new 'submitted' date.




I think GG meant to say that only those big changes show up in the quiz log so that the quiz author can see what date the quiz was submitted, when the title was changed, etc. It won't show up in the log if a quiz is re-saved.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 05:28 PM

Of course I know these hard working editors have private lives and they also want to play trivia, not just edit. Gosh, of course I know this. There is no way that I have ever thought otherwise!

Okay, I think I am getting the understanding of this now. That once the editor begins the editing process, even if they are called to the phone, have an emergency, become ill, whatever, that quiz remains at the front of the queue line, until such time the editor can finish the editing, with the quiz either going on line, or receiving a correction notice.

I was misunderstanding it to mean, that if an editor changed anything, not able to finish editing that day, that would send the quiz to the back of the queue line as though it had just been submitted. My misunderstanding, for sure, but reading over this again, it makes sense, obviously for me and for others who wonder the same things.

So, back to the original question: if my quiz, has a time stamp of January 26, as stated earlier in this discussion, and I am not responsible for this time stamping change, because I did not change, correct or click anything, then this would mean that the editor most likely has been editing the quiz, but is not yet finished with the editing, for whatever personal or private reason? This would be why nothing is in my log about it?

I do want to say, it is great to be able to have these discussions in order to be able to understand how these things work. I appreciate this a lot.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 07:09 PM

Quote:



Quote:

It doesn't matter if the change is significant or not... or even if you make a change. As long as you hit the 'save' button on the quiz edit screen, you get a new 'submitted' date.




I think GG meant to say that only those big changes show up in the quiz log so that the quiz author can see what date the quiz was submitted, when the title was changed, etc. It won't show up in the log if a quiz is re-saved.




Right
It was in response to the 'shouldn't I be able to see if an editor did something' part of the original question.
Posted by: bloomsby

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jan 28 2009 08:54 PM

If possible, please submit to the correct category. It can make quite a difference.

What's more, if an editor moves your quiz from one category to another - for example, a quiz on a British prime minister or a U.S. president from People to World - please don't move it back to the wrong category again.

FT Editor, History and People
Posted by: Bruyere

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 29 2009 01:24 PM

More often than not, a quiz is held up by some concern an editor has about sources, or the way it's written. Sometimes I will edit a quiz then think, 'great, I think this one's ready to go.' and ooops, I come across something I know will be a correction note magnet.
I cannot in all honesty release it by fixing that myself as the person won't know what's been done. This will hold up the process on a quiz.

Sometimes the entire queue is full of quizzes that have one or two iffy questions and that's when things get blocked.

I think I've probably said it several times over the years, but, if your writing is very consistent across the subject areas and you improve it steadily with the help of the editors or on your own, an editor can pluck it out and get it online very quickly. If there are things preventing its dispatch, then, it will take longer.

that's the bottom line for me as an editor.

Heather aka Bruyere
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 30 2009 10:10 PM

Heya Heather,

That reply was really nicely written and very helpful. Thanks for your input.

When you editors let we authors know these things, in such a pleasant way, it makes it so much easier to accept the waiting times and to understand why the waiting times are long some of the time.

Thanks again!
Giz
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 16 2009 12:39 AM

May I ask someone to check if something similar has happened to my "Paris Landmarks" Quiz? I've been trying to be very patient but I did submit it on the 18th of Jan and I haven't received any correction notes or anything. I'm just wondering now if something has gone wrong somewhere? It would be appreciated

Thanks
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 16 2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

May I ask someone to check if something similar has happened to my "Paris Landmarks" Quiz? I've been trying to be very patient but I did submit it on the 18th of Jan and I haven't received any correction notes or anything. I'm just wondering now if something has gone wrong somewhere? It would be appreciated

Thanks




Midget, you last submitted your quiz on Feb 09 09. Please remember that each time you save your quiz, the computer doesn't understand your quiz had already been submitted and treats it like a new submission.
Posted by: supersal1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 16 2009 10:44 AM

I got caught like this when I first started making quizzes. It is a bit misleading because it does say, after you've submitted the quiz, that you can go in and edit it at any time.

Perhaps it would be an idea to add to that note something along the lines of "However, please be aware that editing your quiz once it has been submitted will send it to the back of the queue".
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 16 2009 01:35 PM

Thanks for checking for me Ladymach - its appreciated but you've just about made me cry

I really didn't go back into it and save it again.

I never touch them once I've submitted them (Until an editor tells me I have to that is LOL)

Is it possible there is a bug in the system?
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 16 2009 02:56 PM

It looks like your quiz has gone online Midget -- Fine one it is too!
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 17 2009 06:53 AM

gtho4 put it online for me so I've stopped stressing.

Thanks for your help and thankyou for the compliment Jon
Posted by: adawaz

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 17 2009 08:17 AM

I would like to thank the editors for their help to a relatively new author. You only learn by making mistakes (despite how often quiz creation guidelines are read!) They have made quiz creating much easier for me by constructive input so thanks again
Posted by: Triviaballer

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Feb 22 2009 08:15 PM

Is there any way that the one quiz submission at a time rule can be removed? When you submit a quiz in some categories you're waiting for two or three weeks for a response and if you've already got other quizzes ready to go online (in categories that you know will have a short wait time for getting the quiz online) you have to wait until that one passes the system. I know that some authors have the capability of doing this but for some reason it was removed for me. Why is it that at one point I was able to submit multiple quizzes at a time but now I can only submit one at a time?
Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 23 2009 12:31 AM

"Is there any way that the one quiz submission at a time rule can be removed?"

As you already note, it is removed for exceptional authors. People get this capacity for writing consistently good quizzes that require little editing. It can be removed if quizwriting gets sloppy. If you see the "green screen" on your quizzes, you won't get to submit more than one.

In your case, it looks like you were able to submit multiple quizzes in the past before we had the "one quiz per author" rule.

I don't expect to see the rule removed, nor would I want it to be. If an author produces good quizzes that require little work for the editor, they do get the privilege. This should be a reason to work on writing better quizzes. If quizzes need to be returned constantly for plagiarism, grammar problems, spelling errors, not reading Guidelines, etc., then there really isn't any good reason for that person to be submitting more than one quiz at a time.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 25 2009 05:42 AM

The only thing I could see as a possible exception to this would be with the Brain Teasers. They are so uniquely different than the other quizs would there not be a rationale to be able to have one submitted in the usual quizs while being able to submit a brain teaser as well? Or would this not be easible from a programming point of view?
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 25 2009 10:58 AM

That really depends on the nature of the Brain Teaser quiz. Some are quite straight-forward and would rarely, if ever, need correcting. But there are other types that are less straight-forward than, say, the Drop-A-Letter quizzes. Other forms of 'brain teaser' and would need more work between author and editor, so I don't think you could really say that Brain Teasers are easy, therefore you can submit another one at the same time as any Brain Teaser.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 25 2009 01:13 PM

Sorry GG, didn't mean that they were easy just totally different.

I imagine that most of the problems with usual quizs that people need to work on until they're good enough to be able to submit more than one are appilcable to all the other quiz catagories.

Brain teasers seem totally different. Apart from the obvious spelling and grammer it's a different skillset. You could be able to write a perfect quiz but not be able to do a Brain Teaser (and visa versa)

There's also the fact that Brain Teasers don't require interesing info which is where I imagine a lot of editing comes in.

I have no idea if this is true but it appears that way.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 25 2009 02:10 PM

That's true, I suppose not requiring interesting info helps. But again, that depends on the nature of the brain teaser. If it's logic puzzles or something, those kinda DO require interesting info, because you have to explain to the quiz player how to arrive at the answer. I still think there are some types of brain teasers that would require a fair amount of editing work.

Perhaps we should wait for crisw to come along and tell us
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 26 2009 02:48 AM

Thats true, I was thinking of the very simple, basic ones I write which have nothing at all in common with my other quizs!

I was just frustrated recently because I submitted a brain teaser which went on line. I then submitted another quiz that took 4 weeks to get online - and no it wasn't bad (I got it online first go) but it had been changed catagories, then resaved so kept going back to the end of the queue and it was in one of the popular catagies.

During that four weeks others wrote the same type of brain teasers to mine that were very similar to ones I had written and had ready to submit so I had to scrap them all which was really annoying.

I guess this set of circumstances is not common but it just had me thinking because I couldn't see a rationale for me not being able to submit the rest of the brain teasers while I was waiting on the other quiz.

I do have some 'grammer issues' at times but this is not a problem in my brain teasers. So that where that comment originated
Posted by: crisw

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 26 2009 11:46 AM

Trust me, Brain Teasers may be different, but if anything they require a lot MORE editing than the average quiz. Plenty of people do put lots of info in them; just because you don't have to doesn't mean that no one does!

I am actually trying to formulate fair rules to reduce the number of overly simple BT quizzes submitted. For example, I've asked Drop a Letter authors to submit just one quiz every 2 weeks. Once a category starts to look easy, people flood me with the things!
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 26 2009 01:48 PM

I tend to put info in my Brain Teasers quizzes and many others do too, I know that you don't have to however. I tend to rate BT quizzes with info a lot more generously than those without. If a quiz has no info - it is limited to an average rating in my system.

Cris, I think limiting the DaL quizzes to one every two weeks is a good idea. I know you weren't looking for any opinions on it but I thought I would jump in and give one anyway
Posted by: moondog83013

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jun 14 2009 03:00 PM

I was pointed here to read this as I was asking about how long it takes to get a quiz online.

I have had mine in the 'submitted' mode for about 2 weeks now and was just wondering.

My quiz is in Literature/Sci-Fi

dog
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jun 14 2009 10:23 PM

It's in there. The Literature category, at the moment, is quite full. You probably won't be waiting much longer though it appears that your quiz has only been in line for six days. Perhaps you've been making changes to it while it's been submitted?
Posted by: PDAZ

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jul 12 2009 10:41 PM

I'm getting the following error when checking for the current queue time estimates:

The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error.
Please contact the website administrator.

The following information is meant for the website developer for debugging purposes.

Error Occurred While Processing Request
File not found: /qsoze.cfm


Resources:
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.


Browser Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Remote Address 68.228.233.59
Referrer http://www.funtrivia.com/ql.cfm?cat=3533
Date/Time 12-Jul-09 11:39 PM

Stack Trace (click to expand)



coldfusion.runtime.TemplateNotFoundException: File not found: /qsoze.cfm
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:89)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:70)
at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:175)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86)
at coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilter.java:42)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter.doFilter(BootstrapFilter.java:46)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:106)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:284)
at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543)
at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)


Also, is it possible to post them somewhere else? They're rather hidden (unless they're posted somewhere I don't know about...)
Posted by: doublemm

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 01:56 AM

I think this might be the link you're after PDAZ...

http://www.funtrivia.com/qsize.cfm

sorry but I don't know where to find it on the site.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 03:14 PM

I don't think you can find it on the site anymore, since the 'old profile page' link has disappeared. I haven't been able to find another link, anyway. (Except perhaps if you go to FAQ or some kind of 'getting started' page referring to writing quizzes, I believe there's a 'you can click here for an estimated wait time' link).

But I find it easiest to just type in the url.
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 03:32 PM

If you click on the "My Quizzes" link on the bar that also says "Welcome xxx", "Logout" and "My Home" - you will see a link that says "Queue Status" - this will give you the waiting times for each category.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 03:43 PM



I see 'Welcome', I see 'logout'... I don't see 'My Home' or 'My Quizzes'...
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:10 PM

Really :O

This is what I see:

Welcome jonnowales · [Logout] · My Home · My Quizzes || Main Index · Search · Who's Online · FAQ
Posted by: demurechicky

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:14 PM

GG, It's on the Forum header, not the main page...
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:15 PM

OH! Thanks, chicky that clears it up. lol
Posted by: jonnowales

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:17 PM

Oh sorry GG and thanks DC
Posted by: demurechicky

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Jul 13 2009 04:20 PM

I just swapped a quiz today, as I realised that due to some of the questions, it was in the wrong category...and the waiting time is longer! C'est la vie, patience is a virtue lol
Posted by: Englizzie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Nov 16 2009 11:33 AM

Oh where. oh where has my little quiz gone, Oh where, oh where can it be. Hobbies cat., corrected and returned 11/10. 'Tea and Sympathy ......' etc.

Asking most respectfully.

Lizzie
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Nov 16 2009 03:14 PM

It probably would be better to send a private note to the editor who worked on it with you, rather than post in a thread about it!
Posted by: Englizzie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Nov 16 2009 03:21 PM

I will take your advice. I really just want to follow correct protocol here.

Thank you.

Englizzie
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Nov 16 2009 09:49 PM

I can't speak for the editors in the Hobbies category.

However, for me, correct protocol would be to, first, make sure the quiz actually was resubmitted. You can do this by looking at your "my quizzes - edit" screen - it will say "submitted" if the quiz is in the queue.

Second, I'd then assume that if the quiz hasn't been gotten to yet, it would be because there were other quizzes ahead of it in line, or because the editors were busy with real life and unable to edit, or because there were issues with the quiz that needed time to deal with.

As a very general rule "Why haven't you edited my quiz yet?" is not really a very useful question to ask. As long as the quiz is in tthe queue, someone will get to it as soon as possible.
Posted by: Englizzie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Nov 16 2009 10:19 PM

I did do all the necessary things to ascertain the status of the quiz. By contacting the editor in question today, I was able to learn that there were personal issues delaying the process.

I understand that Editors must, so often, feel pressured and unnecessarily put upon, but some of us are quite big and grown up people, who like to ask questions. Everyone is fallible at some time.

Lizzie
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Nov 17 2009 12:36 AM

Yes, we are all adults, but I think that some people don't realize that the editors and everyone else who posts a quiz or does something to make FT better, is a volunteer. So it's not a matter of being fallible, it's a matter of having the time to dedicate to something out of the goodness of one's heart.
Posted by: Englizzie

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Nov 17 2009 01:46 AM

We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.

Winston Churchill


Volunteers are the only human beings on the face of the earth who reflect this nation’s compassion, unselfish caring, patience, and just plain love for one another.

Erma Bombeck
Posted by: MadMags

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Nov 17 2009 09:25 AM

Hear, hear, shuehorn
Posted by: Bruyere

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Nov 18 2009 01:30 AM

I wasn't quite sure what had happened as I hadn't seen it the first time I checked and then, I succumbed to what may have been the H1N1 for about a week or so and couldn't get around to much editing.

Agony is right that many times the quiz hasn't been resubmitted.
Posted by: adawaz

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Nov 18 2009 06:40 AM

Been a victim of H1N1 myself . Not much fun. 6 weeks later and still only operating at 80 percent max. I feel for you Bruyere and wish you a speedy recovery. Forget the editing and look after yourself. Love and best wishes. Alegna
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Nov 18 2009 11:12 AM

Amen to that. Take care of yourself. We all realize that this is a labor of love and that your real obligations to yourself and others come first. I'm sorry you felt the need to explain in the public forum. It really is none of our place to demand anything, and if we have questions, PMs are the better route to pursue. Feel better!
Posted by: Bruyere

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Nov 18 2009 11:57 AM

I don't really mind as this is one big family here! I care for small children so it was inevitable that I catch something and as I have asthma (shhhh preexisting condition...) I got a little worried. I had to stop googling! They say it's better than being vaccinated though.

I usually notice someone's quiz like that immediately when it's popped back in...so I too thought it a case of Agony's 'not resubmitted yet' state.

I keep mentioning this but the queue is like an auto mechanic shop. Some cars are going to take more time to get into shape and tuned up. So when you do look at the queues, many times they've gone through the first triage and they will require more time on our part. If I see you resubmitting a quiz and it's in excellent shape, I'll just get it on the road in no time though.
Posted by: Dandy28804

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 05 2010 06:34 AM

Mine was submitted Feb.19 and still no word on it from anyone.
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Mar 05 2010 07:31 AM

The submisison date is Feb 19 but, for some reason, it's in the queue with today's date. Have you gone ito the quiz and re-saved it, by clicking the save button?

(re-saving the quiz puts your quiz in the queue with today's date, behind all quizzes dated 4th March and earlier)
Posted by: haku4u

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 30 2010 05:53 PM

Please don't get me wrong, I do realize that the Editors are human, but I was wondering how long it will take my quiz to be edited. Two weeks ago, I submitted a quiz titled "Big Brothers/Big Sisters" in the hobbies catagory. Grandted, I have written some really bad quizzes in the past; but I feel that two weeks is a little excessive.

Edited to change topic title back
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Mar 30 2010 06:04 PM

Haku4u - your quiz has been submitted 9 days ago, on the 21st. With your previous track record, you need to expect turnaround times of 6 to 8 days even in the best cases, so I would not yet say your entry is even near to being overdue.

edited to change topic title back
Posted by: krazykritik

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 31 2010 11:35 AM

I learned that one must choose carefully as to which quiz to submit if they have more than one waiting to be submitted. I changed one once, thinking it would take the quehe place of the other, and of course, that's just doesn't make sense as the newly submitted quiz needs to have time spent on it just the same as the one you submitted.
So a word of advice to authors who think about 'changing their submission'-only do this if there is something really wrong you've noticed in your submitted quiz, or you want to delete it or change it. Once you do change it, you should realize that just because it's been in the quehe before doesn't mean it will take less time on its subsequent submission.

Sometimes peepulz iz sooo krazy!
Posted by: bloomsby

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Mar 31 2010 05:25 PM

There's an unstated golden rule if you want to avoid delay, namely: once you've submitted a quiz, don't fiddle around with it.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 15 2010 11:54 AM

Hi, I have a question about the queues, not necessarily the waiting times. I've had my quiz submitted to Sci/Tech since April 9 (I think) so it's only 6 days, and the category waiting time says up to 6 days, so that's no problem.

However, I've somehow managed to submit 2 quizzes at once! My max in Author Central still says one. It happened because I submitted a quiz which was to be part 2 of a series, and a previous quiz had been taken offline so I could edit the title etc. to make it part 1 of the series. However, when I was finished, I didn't think about it and clicked submit! I didn't think it would let me submit more than one as this is my maximum!

As I said, I don't think my quiz should have been seen to yet, as it's still within the range, but if there is a problem caused by submitting 2 instead of 1, it'd be better for me rectify it sooner or later!

Apologies if this would have been better sent directly to Crisw, but I thought maybe other editors could answer on it?

Thanks,
Richard
Posted by: Pagiedamon

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 15 2010 12:05 PM

If it lets you submit two quizzes, there will be no problem caused by your submitting two.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 15 2010 12:11 PM

Oh, o.k. That's great. It must just be that they haven't been seen to yet, which is fine. Thanks for the quick reply.

(P.s. Does this mean I can submit two now, and that the number on Author Central just hasn't been updated, or is it more likely to be a one-off? )
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 15 2010 12:18 PM

Usually the max of 1 refers to only one new template. If a quiz has already been online and had to come offline to fix something, it'll let you resubmit that one, plus one new one, but probably not two or more new ones, if your Author Central says 1.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 15 2010 12:27 PM

O.k. Thanks very much That makes sense.
Posted by: navaho56

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 02:58 PM

Submitted a quiz (20/6/2010) when waiting time was 2 days, now a week later it's 5/6 days. Question being does your submission get looked at in order of when it was submitted or what?
Posted by: aya3098

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 03:19 PM

When your quiz gets reviewed is REALLY variable. When it's reviewed depends, where the editors are depends, but yes, for the most part you are reviewed in order. If you are "green slipped," you will have a lesser priority than more experienced authors. How many quizzes you have online matters. If you re-save a quiz, you're placed back at the back of the queue. Like I said, it's really variable!
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Question being does your submission get looked at in order of when it was submitted or what?




Typically, yes. Editors will usually go in order of submission, but do have the ability to edit quizzes that require fewer corrections (whether the author is known to be quite proficient in submitting error-free quizzes or the quiz has been resubmitted).

If the wait time has gone up since submitting like that, odds are the same quizzes that were in line ahead of you before are still there. Your quiz isn't being pushed to the back.

In addition, your quiz has been tagged for review from a specific editor (as noted by its title). That means that it depends on said editor's availability.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

How many quizzes you have online matters.




Not really.

An author with 100 quizzes online can take as long as an author with none.
Posted by: Pagiedamon

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

...Question being does your submission get looked at in order of when it was submitted or what?



Editor agony said it well in another post: "We do try to follow a rough 'first come first served' system, but we can't promise to edit in strict order - too many other factors come into play." Those other factors could include that the quiz at the top of the list has a lot of corrections needed or requires feedback from other editors (i.e., it's controversial, etc). Sometimes you have to skip a quiz because another editor is more qualified in the subject matter. My personal practice, however, is to edit quizzes in order of submission unless there is a good reason not to.
Posted by: Pagiedamon

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 03:28 PM

Oops! Looks like Kyle and I posted at almost the same time.
Posted by: leith90

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 10:49 PM

Once I submit a quiz, I'm the most impatient person in the world. Madly checking the Buzz and my mailbox for the lovely little note to say my quiz is online. But I NEVER play with my quiz once it's submitted, because hitting that save button will drop it back to the end of the queue. Kyle will attest to the fact that most authors get very "twitchy" waiting for their quizzes to go online.

The long and the short of it is, the editors are only human, despite evidence to the contrary. And with all the new challenges and things on the author board, they are severely overworked too. All quizzes, unless so bad that they cannot be fixed (I doubt that would ever happen) will make it online eventually.

Patience is a vertue, and if you cannot be patient, work on your next quiz! Or join us in the author board where you can have company while you twitch! lol
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jun 26 2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

The long and the short of it is, the editors are only human, despite evidence to the contrary.




What evidence is that? The LCDs in our eyes, or the constant chanting of "ex-ter-min-ate'?

I can only reinforce what my editorial colleagues have already said. Basically, a quiz with no errors will probably go online quicker than one that has lots of typos, grammar problems, etc.

Another factor is the specialised expertise of some editors. As an example, in Hobbies, I generally get quizzes like chess, board games, collectibles, etc, and leave alone things that I know nothing about, such as knitting, astrology, gardening.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Jun 27 2010 01:35 AM

Patience is a virtue, and authors get a chance to become more virtuous! I have had the heady experience of such quick editorial processing that three quizzes went online within a single day, and I have waited for over a week while a category that estimated 1-2 days wait when I submitted blew out to a longer wait every time I checked. Of course, the wait seems longer than it really is - I had to start keeping a record of when I submitted each quiz so that I can remind myself that it hasn't really been as long as it feels. But they do get there eventually, and the waiting time gives you a chance to start releasing your baby, and moving on to the next one.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 06:27 AM

I have a couple of questions, it's not a complaint either, just plain curiosity and wonder!

When checking the queue lines, let's say movies says 3 to 5 days, (you're looking when it's the said day 4), then you look on day 5 and it's switched to 5 to 8 days and so on, that sort of thing.

Now my actual question is, when a category is overflowing with quizzes having a queue line of, let's say 8 to 15 days, do editors from other categories set their queue waiting list aside and go help in the busier category? Is this a reason for some unexpected delays?

My next question is just about new quizzes on line. Often there will be a splurge of quizzes from the same category that show up, like music, which is very popular. But then something like History will only have a quiz show up once every two or three days some of the time, even when the queue might say 2 to 3 days. Is it more difficult to edit some categories than it is to edit others? Is this a reason for the wait time differences?

Hopefully, you get what I'm asking about here. I just think that more explanation about how it is for editors could certainly help authors to relax and stop feeling like their quiz is being ignored or the wait is far too long before the quiz goes on line.

Thanks, and I do look forward to an answer that might help clarify these sorts of questions.

Hugssss
Giz
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 07:30 AM

We all have our categories that we edit in, and cannot edit in others, so there is not much piling in to help those who are swamped. Within the categories we edit, though, there might be a bit of that. For example, I edit in three categories. In one of them, I'm the only one to edit those quizzes (I do all the book quizzes in FC). Since there is nobody else to take up my slack, I make a point of never going more than a couple of days without working in there. In my other categories, I'll take a look at queue length, and pitch in where it seems I'm most needed.

When you see a whole whack of quizzes going online in one category, that's a sign, usually, that a single editor has been working hard and trying to clear things out a bit. The one History quiz a day may mean that there have been few submissions in there lately, or it may mean that the History editor is busy in real life and can only pop into FT for a quick release of one quiz, or it may mean that History submissions lately have been very poor, and he's working very hard on quizzes that are going through their third or fourth rejection.

It's important to keep in mind that very few quizzes go online first time, especially those from new authors. Most submissions in the queue are from new authors. Some categories, like Music, get an enormous number of submissions. It's entirely possible for an editor to have been working for two hours in that queue, and to have cleared a dozen quizzes from the queue, but for only one to have gone online - the rest have been sent back for correction. Three days later, when those corrected quizzes come back, five can go online within fifteen minutes if everything asked for has been done. So you see that there is no point in looking for direct correlation between estimated wait time and what you see on the new quizzes list.

The issue is further complicated by the fact that certain quizzes will only be edited by certain editors, because of competency in that area. So, if that editor is not around, a quiz may wait longer than others in the same queue. Some quizzes pose problems of categorization or other things, which mean the editors need to discuss them behind the scenes, which means they will wait longer. Some quizzes are just so dreadful-looking that they get left for a bit - I know I need to be in a particular mood in order to deal patiently with an author who submits a quiz with ten spelling errors just in the intro. I can also only handle so much Harry Potter or "Twilight" in one sitting - editors are human, too. We also have other behind-the-scenes duties, such as dealing with corrections and making subcategories, that sometimes take away from working on the queue. And, of course, our lives are all different - some of us get big swatches of computer time, others snatch five minutes here and there while the pasta is cooking. Some of us are here every day, and some have, say, two hours every Tuesday.

So, if you are looking for some way to tell, by estimated wait time, which editors are online, and what's happening in the new quiz list, when your particular quiz will be edited, you really can't. It just doesn't work that way.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 12:16 PM

I'm not an editor, so I should give a little caveat: maybe I'm totally wrong. But sometimes editors feel the need to confer with each other, and then it might be the first editor is waiting on input from his/her colleagues.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: JanIQ
I'm not an editor, so I should give a little caveat: maybe I'm totally wrong. But sometimes editors feel the need to confer with each other, and then it might be the first editor is waiting on input from his/her colleagues.


This does happen.
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 01:56 PM

Thank you agony! That is really great information. As a team leader I do get asked things sometimes and aren't quite sure how to reply. I don't like to make a guess, preferring to get a more clear picture from an editor, in this case.

A lot of the time quiz authors, especially new ones, feel so anxious and excited about their submission and it helps for them to know that the editors are doing the best they can to handle things.

I think you've done an awesome job of explaining some of the process that you editors do deal with.

I want to say thanks again for your feedback. It's valuable and interesting information that can be quite helpful when trying to explain how things are for editors. I do appreciate that you replied.

Hugsss
Giz
Posted by: funnytrivianna

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 01:59 PM

Makes total sense to me too, that the editors need some input from other editors before proceeding with the editing. It's a huge job to maintain the quality of the quizzes on line.

I can't say I don't get frustrated waiting, because I do and to hear things from any editor's point of view really helps to put things more into perspective.

Kudos to the fine editing jobs that our volunteer editors work hard to accomplish!

Hugsss
Giz
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 02:38 PM

Quote:
I can't say I don't get frustrated waiting, because I do and to hear things from any editor's point of view really helps to put things more into perspective.


When a quiz goes into the queue, any sense of patience is thrown out the window. Just ask the authors in the Lounge.

Some harbour addictions to chocolate.
Some start twitching.
Some ask for consolation.
Some hoard titles.

It's rough work, but someone has to do it. wink
Posted by: rossian

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 03:12 PM

Only 'some' Kyle? I thought we all suffered from those afflictions (especially the chocolate).
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 05:11 PM

Did somebody mention chocolate? grin
Posted by: Nightmare

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 07:23 PM

Quote:
I dreamt of spending a day riding a stallion. It was a nightmare.


Huh?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Oct 11 2010 08:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Nightmare
Quote:
I dreamt of spending a day riding a stallion. It was a nightmare.


Huh?


Take the compliment. wink
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 12 2010 04:08 AM

Twitching is universal, even of some of us aren't chocaholics. There's nothing for it but to wait. It's not only new authors who check the queue lengths at regular intervals, and are dismayed to see them blowing out by a day each day! Writing quizzes gives you plenty of chances to practice 'patiently' - clasp your hands and recite after me "I will be patient. It hasn't been as long as it seems. I will be patient." Then try to believe it!
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 12 2010 09:41 AM

The best advice I can give, and I will repeat it even though it's been mentioned before, is to leave your quiz alone after it's been submitted.
Every time you make a change and hit that save button, you change the submission date to that time and start your wait time all over again. Editors will not know that you've been waiting several days if you keep going into the quiz and make changes.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 12 2010 12:01 PM

Nightmare, take a close look to my avatar and you'll understand what my signature is about.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 12 2010 02:33 PM

I like the famous twitching chocolate who hoards consolation titles.
Posted by: Jomarion

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Nov 12 2010 05:20 AM

I submitted a quiz on the 6th Nov. As far as I know ,there isn't any thing wrong with it but it is still in the queue. I have 11 quizzes on line and have never waited so long before to have a quiz accepted. - I wonder if someone could tell me what the hold-up is PLEASE. :-)
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Nov 12 2010 08:04 AM

The Religion category (where your quiz is housed) is being attended to regularly and you're on your way to the top of the queue- 6 days isn't an uncommon wait time and it should be taken care of within the next couple of days. smile
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Nov 12 2010 01:23 PM

Hi Jomarion,

As luck would have it, your quiz just went online before I checked this forum! Religion has been backed up since I was out of town for work all last week; neither of us Religion editors has a whole lot of free time, so when one of us is absent for a while, it takes a long time for us to recover! We usually try to handle quizzes more quickly, but given that the editors are all volunteers and have busy lives, it is (as Kyle says) not uncommon to see wait times that are a bit longer.

This seems like a good time for a reminder: when you re-save a quiz that has been submitted, it sends the quiz to the back of the queue (even if you didn't make any changes -- hitting the "Save" button is all that's needed). Your quiz was submitted on November 6, but in the queue it looked like it had been submitted November 9, so it wound up sitting behind some quizzes that had been submitted later. Before I opened the quiz up to take a look, I had no way of knowing that its wait time was actually double what it appeared to be! If you realize you've made some major error, it's always best to fix it and re-save the quiz even if it's already in the queue, but if you're just checking on your work, remember to back out without hitting "Save" so that you don't inadvertently put it at a disadvantage.
Posted by: eauhomme

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 14 2011 09:33 PM

How are things going in the "QuizMaker Tuneups" currently? I posted a quiz Christmas Eve and it has not gone online or had a correction notice yet. I have never had anywhere close to this long a wait before and I want to make sure there isn't anything I need to do.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 14 2011 10:30 PM

I see it tagged as Jan 4. Did you happen to save it sometime since?
Posted by: eauhomme

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jan 15 2011 12:28 AM

I saved it 12/24, then noticed a typo when I took a look at it a couple weeks later (probably January 4). No saves before or since. Quite a change from the eight minutes it took one of my quizzes to go online.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Jan 15 2011 01:30 AM

If I recall you had a specific editor tagged to your quiz, so the editing would rely on that editor's schedule.
Posted by: Rimrunner

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 08 2011 10:56 PM

I have just read - no, scratch that, - waded through all 11 pages of the same 5 questions and (mostly very patient) answers, just to make sure that what I want to know hasn't already been asked and answered. I trust SOMEONE will give me credit for that. Someone BETTER give me credit for that. Ugh! *scraping farmyard debris off boots*
(Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest!)

Wouldn't it be a good idea to just post a summary of the most common questions and answers somewhere in this forum? (Some of them are in the FAQs, but not covered in anything like the detail that this forum topic has supplied.)

Why I'm posting: Author prioritization and quiz categories
I copied this from the 'Rough Queue Sizes' page:
********************
UPDATE: Our new editing system has been modified to give queue precedence to players who consistently submit well written quizzes and place to the END of the queue players who in the past have submitted poorly written/error filled quizzes. Please read the quiz guidelines and become familiar with our requirements before submitting quizzes. Players who consistently do NOT follow guidelines will find that their wait time after submission will slowly get longer, and longer, and l o n g e r . . .
********************

My question is this:
Is the prioritizing approach described above category based (applied differently within each category, according to how the author has done only within that category), or does it apply across the board on FT?
(For example, I believe I'm fairly well thought of in the Religion category, but I'm not too sure of what the editors' opinion of me is in the Brain Teasers category: I've submitted one quiz in the latter which needed extensive revision!)
Or is it something in between - such as, for example, the case might be where an editor in one category, not sure what to make of a quiz author new to him/her, might well consult an editor in another category who, through experience, knows the author better?

Ok, over to the editors. When you have a spare moment, that is!
Posted by: Pagiedamon

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 08 2011 11:17 PM

The prioritizing approach generally applies across the board. Don't look to quiz wait times, however, as the only indication of whether or not you're considered to have consistently submitted well-written quizzes. Some categories just get backed up for various reasons which have nothing at all to do with you personally. In other words, a longer wait time doesn't necessarily mean that your quiz was pushed to the end of the queue. smile
Posted by: Rimrunner

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 08 2011 11:43 PM

Thanks Paige!
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 10 2011 09:12 AM

Posting a list of the most commonly asked questions would be not only difficult to compile, but unbelievable difficult to wade through.
By consistently well-written questions, we look more at how well the quiz is written (free of spelling and grammatical errors) and whether it follows the requirements for the individual category.
You are much more likely to be viewed a poor writer, for example, if the only effort you put into your Interesting Information sections are to say things like, 'Yup, the answer is Elizabeth Taylor.' or 'It's one of my favourite movies.', than if you repeat a question.
To ensure originality, one of the best things to do is scan through the quizzes already online (or play them if you haven`t already) in the topic you wish to write in. That will give you an idea of what's already out there and you can avoid the questions that have been overdone!

Edited to correct a spelling mistake blush
Posted by: Rimrunner

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 10 2011 01:05 PM

Oh yeah, I know what you mean. No, I really do.

For example, I have to do a quiz on Jonah, so I just finished looking at (and making notes on what was asked) the four previous quizzes on the Biblical Jonah...

(Just had to smile - I only just learned to do that, and here you are telling me just that!) laugh
Posted by: goofyfoot009

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 11 2011 08:29 PM

Where can one find out about quiz queues and other info about submitted quizzes?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Aug 11 2011 08:45 PM

On the Home Screen, click the link (upper right area of the screen) that says Create Quiz. this takes you to Author Central, wheere you will find all kinds of useful information. On the left screen scroll down and you will see a link for Rough queue sizes. Click on the other links on the left screen to explore all the other goodies available there.

I'm not sure what 'other information about submitted quizzes' you want. You can't see any details of what has been submitted by others. You can see the quizzes you have submitted, and those already online, by going to Me > My Quizzes:Edit. You cannot see whether or not an editor has looked at a submitted quiz. I would strongly recommend against openig your quiz once it has been submitted - if you have it open when an editor tries tolook at it, they will get a warning and go away. They may not have a chance to look at it again for quite a while.
Posted by: goofyfoot009

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 04 2011 10:41 AM

I guess the editor responsible for Medical has passed away...........My quiz on hearts and transplantation has been submitted for nigh on a month........I wonder how some folks can have several hundred quizzes to their credit, when it takes that long to OK an offering.....
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Oct 04 2011 12:00 PM

The editor in that category has been very busy in their personal life for a couple of weeks,but business should be back to normal soon.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Oct 05 2011 05:19 AM

Originally Posted By: goofyfoot009
I guess the editor responsible for Medical has passed away...........My quiz on hearts and transplantation has been submitted for nigh on a month........I wonder how some folks can have several hundred quizzes to their credit, when it takes that long to OK an offering.....


I see your quiz got online, goofyfoot. Though the queue times for that category are long, yours made it online within the stated time frame. It helps to remember that all of the editors here are volunteers who do this out of the goodness of their hearts. A little patience goes a long way.
Posted by: ShadowStar889

Show quiz queue number... - Sun Aug 05 2012 10:19 AM

Whenever you're waiting for a quiz to come in, why don't we have a counter that says: Your quiz is #XXXX in the current Sci/Tech queue? That way FunTrivia will get fewer complaints about quizzes not getting anywhere as people can actually see their quiz move through the line.
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 11:43 AM

It may not be that number depending on several factors. An editor can give more insight, but the queue isn't exactly like that.
Posted by: ShadowStar889

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 11:53 AM

So how does the quiz queue work then, if not by order of submission?
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 12:57 PM

A gap from October 2011 to August 2012 in this thread doesn't seem to indicate a very pressing need for such a counter. As has been explained in different threads, authors with a proven track record are often handled more quickly. Quizzes from authors who have require more input and corrections are sometimes put off a bit longer. This is why there is no particular counter. Every time an author looks at their quiz again and edits it, it gets pushed to the end of the queue. As dgdave said, the editors in each queue can give you further insight as to how each one is operating at any particular time.
Posted by: ShadowStar889

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 01:13 PM

Ok thanks and by the way, my topic was lumped into this one by a moderator. I just created this as a new topic today.
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 01:18 PM

Shadowstar, it's a good idea in theory but in practice the queues don't work like that. The editors do try the first-come, first-served approach but we do skip items in the queue for several reasons, including:
- Having already edited a quiz and knowing that it will be a quick edit
- Leaving a quiz on an unfamiliar topic to an editor with more experience in the topic
- Leaving a quiz that, upon first glance, is going to require a lot of time to edit in order to get other quizzes out of the queue quickly (this is where it's better that you have created a well-written quiz, have read the guidelines, etc. before submitting)

In addition, quizzes are also submitted to the queue by a quality rating. Authors who require little or no editing have a quicker wait and those whose quizzes continually need a lot of effort editing-wise and/or have previously plagiarised will have to wait longer.
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 02:42 PM

To add to what LadyMacb29 has said, familiarity with the subject matter plays a large part. In Movies, for example, we prefer taking on quizzes about films we've already seen, although that isn't always possible. For movies that we know are going to generate a lot of quizzes, like the upcoming 'Twilight' conclusion for example, we may ask one editor to take on all quizzes about the film for consistency's sake.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: ShadowStar889
Ok thanks and by the way, my topic was lumped into this one by a moderator. I just created this as a new topic today.


How strange. I've never heard of topics being lumped together. Sorry for the wrong assumption.
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 04:03 PM

I've seen it a few times, but not often, and it does have to do with queues and waiting time, so that may be why.
Posted by: ShadowStar889

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 04:32 PM

Okay then, thanks to all for the feedback smile
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: ladymacb29
Shadowstar, it's a good idea in theory but in practice the queues don't work like that. The editors do try the first-come, first-served approach but we do skip items in the queue for several reasons, including:
- Having already edited a quiz and knowing that it will be a quick edit
- Leaving a quiz on an unfamiliar topic to an editor with more experience in the topic
- Leaving a quiz that, upon first glance, is going to require a lot of time to edit in order to get other quizzes out of the queue quickly (this is where it's better that you have created a well-written quiz, have read the guidelines, etc. before submitting)

In addition, quizzes are also submitted to the queue by a quality rating. Authors who require little or no editing have a quicker wait and those whose quizzes continually need a lot of effort editing-wise and/or have previously plagiarised will have to wait longer.



Aren't there also quizzes that jump to the front of the line for quiz races and such? I also don't think I've ever heard of the 'quality rating' you mention in the last paragraph. Is there some way an author can find out this rating? Are Single Questions included into the rating calculation?
Posted by: ShadowStar889

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 04:42 PM

I didn't know about that. confused
But you ask about the "quality rating." From what I've read in some other posts, editors will skip over quizzes that will take a while, saving them for last. I don't think there is actually any official rating of submitters.
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 05:00 PM

Mehaul, we have always been told for quiz races that our quizzes are in the queue just like everyone else's. They aren't hurried through - although an editor in that category may get a 'heads up' a couple of days beforehand and will clear their category queue in preparation for a bucket-load of quiz racers. This is the way it was explained to us in the Author Lounge when it was questioned a few months ago.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Lones78
Mehaul, we have always been told for quiz races that our quizzes are in the queue just like everyone else's. They aren't hurried through - although an editor in that category may get a 'heads up' a couple of days beforehand and will clear their category queue in preparation for a bucket-load of quiz racers. This is the way it was explained to us in the Author Lounge when it was questioned a few months ago.

Of course, many of the participants in the races are established authors familiar to the editors, who will expect them to be a fairly quick edit, and may take them ahead of quizzes from new writers, who often need a lot more time to help them understand what is required in writing a good quiz.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Aug 05 2012 05:33 PM

Quote:
Aren't there also quizzes that jump to the front of the line for quiz races and such?


No.


Quote:
I also don't think I've ever heard of the 'quality rating' you mention in the last paragraph. Is there some way an author can find out this rating?


How you're received in the queue should be apparent if your quizzes are being looked at quickly or if your quizzes have been plagiarized in the past. You're not going to take longer to get edited for no reason. If you're concerned as to why your quizzes keep taking longer and longer to get checked it may be a case of choosing busy categories or it may be a case of consistent issues. If you're making the same mistakes over and over and over despite editors asking you to be aware and make fixes accordingly, we'll know about it and your quiz will take longer to look at because we expect the same issues to keep cropping up. If you show the effort and work constructively to improve your submissions, then we'll give the same in return. In other words, there is no way to tell you a 'quality rating'; you should know your own submissions better than we do because you should be taking past corrections into account.

Note: These comments aren't aimed at any specific person.


Quote:
Are Single Questions included into the rating calculation?


Single questions and full quizzes are not submitted to the same queue, but authors are the same across the board. If you've plagiarized in one, we know about it. If you're banned from one, we know about it.



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Mehaul, we have always been told for quiz races that our quizzes are in the queue just like everyone else's. They aren't hurried through - although an editor in that category may get a 'heads up' a couple of days beforehand and will clear their category queue in preparation for a bucket-load of quiz racers. This is the way it was explained to us in the Author Lounge when it was questioned a few months ago.


Editors do get a heads up; for the race they knew weeks ahead to plan accordingly, especially towards the end when the tasks were issued so close together. Editors were recommended to work on them in the order they were submitted for the race but it was not required whatsoever. For those wondering, all categories did edit them in the order they were submitted.

Editors are aware of all active challenges in the Author's Lounge. Authors need to be aware that the status of 'Lounge Quiz' does not grant special privileges. You are still your own authors with your own quiz histories. If you've had issues in the past you still need to ensure they're dealt with. No exceptions.
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Aug 06 2012 06:22 AM

The queue is sorted by date submitted. It shows quiz title, author, and date submitted (if an author resaves a quiz while it's in the queue, the date stamp is updated and goes to the back of the queue). Editors can see the entire queue for a category on one page.

All editors in this place will usually edit by date-sequence, but there are exceptions - some examples of exceptions:
  • if there's a quiz about rugby league in the Sports queue, I will probably look at that
    one first (as it's a topic I am familiar with), before going to the top of the queue.
  • ditto a quiz on UK football.
  • if there's a quiz by an author who has built-up a favourable submission history, I will
    probably look at that one first; before going to the top of the queue.
The system tracks an author's submission/rejection/acceptance history, and every editor can view that history across all categories, not just the category in which they edit. For the record, the system also tracks/records abuse thrown at editors by authors, authors who comply with reject notes sent to authors, and authors who ignore reject notes etc.


a reminder for non-editors:

Please re-read the message in blue at the top of the this forum:
If you do not know the answer to a question, please leave it for an editor to reply.

Please do not post I believe it's such and such or I think it's such and such. That is mere speculation and is completely unhelpful for your fellow authors. In other words, don't answer a question posted in this forum unless you are 100% sure the answer is correct.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Aug 06 2012 08:56 AM

Another reason that a quiz might have a longer wait than simple "first in, first edited" is if it could possibly fit better in a different category, or if there is some other unusual aspect of it. Editors will discuss the quiz privately, and since we are all in different time zones, a discussion can easily take several days.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 06:04 AM

I have a quiz "in the queue".

I clicked on the "edit" button a couple of days ago and the top line said that it was being edited by *****. I clicked again just now and there is nothing there.

As the quiz has already been seen by three editors, one of whom changed the category to the one that they chose five days ago, it does seem rather strange.

Note to self: Avoid November for writing quizzes in future.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 06:29 AM

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As the quiz has already been seen by three editors, one of whom changed the category to the one that they chose five days ago, it does seem rather strange.


Not particularly; there are many reasons as to why an editor could be in your quiz before you get a note of some sort. For instance, if they only have time to edit a portion of it and plan to come back.

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Note to self: Avoid November for writing quizzes in future.

The only category currently experiencing longer-than-usual waits is General, partly because of the popularity of AinA. This has nothing to do with Quiz-Writing Month (during which there seems to be an even spread around all categories). Once authors move on from the early rounds of the game and spread out over the different tasks, the wait in General will smooth out. In the meantime, the General eds. are doing what they can to make the wait as short as possible. smile
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 06:53 AM

I will go back to writing my next quiz in the meantime then frown
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 10:20 AM

Sometimes an editor will enter a quiz just to see if it is one of theirs, if the name sounds familiar. This doesn't really qualify as having "seen" the quiz. Nor does changing categories - this is something that takes a couple of seconds and is the kind of housekeeping task that is akin to you bringing your empty coffee cup with you when you pass through the kitchen.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 10:25 AM

In some cases that must be true, but not this one.

Patience is a virtue that I must cultivate.
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 01:03 PM

Sometimes my quizzes take weeks, even months, in preparation. I don't expect an editor to place them on-line immediately... I don't really care if it takes weeks before they make it on-line :-)

What I would like to be able to do though, is have more than one quiz submission at a time. When I'm on a roll and the creative juices are flowing, its very frustrating to be held back haha
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 01:57 PM

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I will go back to writing my next quiz in the meantime then


This is what I was going to come back to recommend; it can save a lot of time to just have submissions ready to go. smile
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: sisterseagull
What I would like to be able to do though, is have more than one quiz submission at a time. When I'm on a roll and the creative juices are flowing, its very frustrating to be held back haha

Even if you can only have one templatesubmitted at a time, you can still keep writing. If you write your quiz as a Word document, then it can easily be copied and pasted into the template when you are able to set up the next one. You can even have several on the go at once!
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sun Nov 25 2012 05:14 PM

When I first started writing quizzes I would always write directly into the template. Now I have more experience I do tend to write into a Word document and then copy/paste to the template. It does give more flexibility that way and it means that I can select the order of questions to give the quiz a feel of flowing more smoothly... That's the theory anyway!
Posted by: Cuish

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 12 2012 07:38 AM

Hi, I submitted a quiz on Sunday night and was wondering what's happening to it (it's a constitutional amendments quiz, by the way). I know I've mucked up big time with my previous ones but I thought I would've heard something by now.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 12 2012 09:21 AM

Apparently, the quiz queue is big enough (or the editors are taking their time) that it takes a while longer than might be expected to check a quiz.
I've had a (resubmitted) quiz in the queue since December 6 and haven't heard anything back. However, I know the editors are doing the best they can and that the queue may be longer than expected.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 12 2012 12:00 PM

Waits of up to a week before hearing anything are quite common during busy times. (Busy both in terms of the number of people writing quizzes and in the festivities of the season impinging on editors' time.) This is even more true for quizzes in specialized categories, which may be left for the specialist editor to look at. And resubmissions will usually be left for the original editor to handle - if they are too busy with real life to have as much editing time as usual, that can slow things down. The Rough Queue Sizes chart in Quiz Author Central will give you an idea about the number of quizzes currently queued in various categories and how quickly they are being handled, but it is only rough.

There is no substitute for patience; asking about it doesn't speed things up. "Are we there yet?" from the kids in the back seat doesn't make the traffic clear so the car can go faster.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Dec 12 2012 02:58 PM

I should probably add that having had serious issues in the past with your quizzes does tend to slow the process down, as noted in the guidelines.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Dec 14 2012 10:29 PM

When are the busiest times, and when are the least busy times (if it is possible to find any easily describable pattern)?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Dec 14 2012 10:46 PM

There is no way to say that.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Dec 14 2012 10:48 PM

We get most submissions, as a rule, when schools are out - these also tend to be submissions that need a lot of work. Editors tend to be busy with their offline lives at the times when everybody is busy, such as the Christmas holidays.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 09:56 AM

Is there a huge backlog now, please?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 10:38 AM

Not really. In the "Quiz Creation" section, there is a link to current wait times. They seem kind of light to me, compared to normal.

Patience, they say, is a virtue. Sometimes I've gone several weeks without a quiz being looked at. I have done my best to learn patience; it's not easy. wink


Here's the current wait times. (missing categories are empty queues)

Category Current Average Wait
Religion 4 to 6 day(s)
Brain Teasers 4 to 4 day(s)
Music 3 to 7 day(s)
General 3 to 12 day(s)
Television 2 to 5 day(s)
Movies 2 to 3 day(s)
Humanities 2 to 2 day(s)
Hobbies 2 to 4 day(s)
Geography 1 to 1 day(s)
Literature 1 to 3 day(s)
Animals 1 to 2 day(s)
For Children 1 to 2 day(s)
Celebrities Within 2 days day(s)
Sports Within 2 days day(s)
People Within 2 days day(s)
Video Games Within 2 days day(s)
History Within 2 days day(s)
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 11:03 AM

It really depends on the category. General has quite a few quizzes right now, but they've been looked at in big blocks. All in due time.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 11:53 AM

OK, thank you

Two weeks is not that long I suppose. In two chunks each a week long either side of the minor edit requested.
Posted by: Cuish

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 12:27 PM

It also depends on how well you are with the editors. If you submit quizzes that require more work and are more error-riddled, you'll be put to the end.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 12:59 PM

well thank you for those kind words

Of my ten quizzes already on-line, most went through with no editing needed at all. The others needed onlyy minor revisions. I hope that stands me in good stead.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 01:12 PM

When your quiz requires more than one submission, it can feel like forever, but the waiting time only applies to the most recent submission. When you set up your template, you should see a message saying something to the effect of expecting to wait for up to a week or longer. This applies each time! As has been explained elsewhere, there are many reasons for possible delays - sometimes your topic is one that only one of the editors in the category handles, for one reason or another; if you have already started working with one editor on a quiz, your resubmission will normally wait for that editor to have time to edit, etc. And, of course, there is the fact that editors have lives, too. I would ideally edit at least one quiz every day, but when my work hours get too long, I just don't have the time, and have to wait until the weekend to edit in a batch. Unfortunately, if I am in that editing mode, and you submit a quiz on Sunday evening (my time), I might not even know it's there until nearly six days later.
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 01:19 PM

Something else that has been mentioned many times, but bears repeating, is the fact that if you work on your quiz after it has been submitted, that changes the submit date to the last time you touched it and sends it to the bottom of the queue.
This is something that many quiz writers don't realize. If you fiddle with your quiz after submission, you might think your quiz has been in the queue for a week but when we look at it, it might say only one day.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 01:22 PM

I am not a fiddler!
Posted by: skunkee

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 01:50 PM

Do you play cello then? wink

I didn't mean to suggest that you , personally did. I was just restating the point for anyone reading the thread.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jan 17 2013 02:18 PM

I am attempting to learn the kalimba
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 18 2013 12:14 PM

Panic over! It took 15 days altogether in the end
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 18 2013 01:08 PM

Just a quick question for those in the know? What is the number of quizzes that one has to have online before they can submit 10 at a time?
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 18 2013 01:11 PM

It's not based on number of quizzes, but on the author/editor relationship. And any author who has ten quizzes in the queues at a time is going to have quizzes deliberately held back by editors - we don't like bombing the front page.
Posted by: eburge

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Jan 18 2013 03:04 PM

Although it is amusing when you see two of your quizzes, one after the other, in the new quiz list. wink
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 05:33 AM

It is often said that those authors that consistently submit error-riddled, grammatically incorrect and inaccurate quizzes are usually pushed to the back of the queue, so I have a question for the editors:

Are there any of you that particularly specialise in dealing with this type of quiz? Do any of you enjoy, even prefer, to deal with these kinds of quizzes?

I would imagine that it could be very rewarding to take a poor product, work in depth with the author over time, and turn it into a quiz to be proud of!
Posted by: LadyCaitriona

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 06:25 AM

For me it's not a matter of preference but a matter of time. If I only have 10 or 15 minutes to spare for editing, I'm not going to jump into a task that will likely take more time than that to write a helpful, detailed note. I often edit from work on my lunch break, so I really do have a deadline for when I need to stop editing and move on to other things.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 09:51 AM

Yes, it is rewarding when it happens, but unfortunately it often doesn't work out that way.

A willing author who just needs a little instruction and encouragement, who wants to write a good quiz but just doesn't know how - those authors seldom stay long in the "back of the queue" group. We know what effort looks like, and we want to encourage it. It's not really all that hard to write a quiz if an author is motivated - once our requirements are understood, it's just a question of doing it. It's a lot of work, but it's not *hard*. Those authors realize fairly quickly that we really mean it when we say we want the spelling and punctuation to be correct, they figure out how to do research, they start to grasp some of the more difficult concepts like time dependency, and before too long they are writing good quizzes.

The authors who go to the back of the queue on any kind of a consistent basis are those who pay no attention to instructions and guidelines. Who, when given a list of five changes needed to the quiz, make a half hearted attempt to do two of them, for the first three or four questions, and then resubmit. After five or six rounds of that, depending on the soft-heartedness of the editor, the quiz is either deleted, or the editor cleans it up and puts it online. These authors are not interested in learning, and once they fully realize how much work will be expected of them, they leave the site.

The first group are indeed rewarding, and I'd say that all editors enjoy working with them, once they see that progress is being made. The second group is not rewarding at all.

As Lady C said, time is very much a factor, too. Do I take half an hour once a week for six weeks to work on a quiz that won't really be very good even if it does make it online, or do I devote that time to good authors, and to authors who could be good with a little help? It's also depressing to work with people who don't want to work with you - most of us can only take a little of that at a time.

So I guess the answer to your question is yes and no.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 12:59 PM

So is that where newbie Editors get their start?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 01:33 PM

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So is that where newbie Editors get their start?


There's no better place to start regular editors than in the regular queues. Might as well show them what to expect from the get-go. smile
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Quote:
So is that where newbie Editors get their start?
There's no better place to start regular editors than in the regular queues. Might as well show them what to expect from the get-go. smile
As the 'newbie-est' editor here, I have to agree. If I'd started out on single questions, a whole quiz would have then been daunting. Might as well face it head on and tackle it. Not that I think I'm anywhere near conquering all the intricacies of editing and FT in general, but after 16 months I don't feel like I'm in the weeds and over my head any more! laugh
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Mon Feb 04 2013 04:07 PM

Wow, 16 months. I can't believe it's been that long. It seems like just yesterday I sent a congratulatory "you became an editor" note. :P
Posted by: Snowman

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 01:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Tizzabelle
Not that I think I'm anywhere near conquering all the intricacies of editing and FT in general, but after 16 months I don't feel like I'm in the weeds and over my head any more! laugh


I still feel like a newbie after four years!
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 04:22 PM

Somewhere along the way this thread's title was changed. The Re:'s are still to the originator rather than the prior poster.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Somewhere along the way this thread's title was changed. The Re:'s are still to the originator rather than the prior poster.


It's been that way for at least a decade.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 05:56 PM

I believe it depends whether you write in the Quick Reply box (as I am) or by clicking Reply after a person's post? In any case, it's pretty unimportant.
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 07:26 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Somewhere along the way this thread's title was changed. The Re:'s are still to the originator rather than the prior poster.

fwiw they're now all identical
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 10:14 PM

There are posts from 12+ years ago in this thread (aka before I was ever a member here - which was 12 years ago this month). Why did it matter what the thread title and all the responses match? The rest of us understood what the gist of this thread was.

It took time for gtho4 to change all those, and it really wasn't warranted.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Feb 05 2013 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: reeshy
I believe it depends whether you write in the Quick Reply box (as I am) or by clicking Reply after a person's post? In any case, it's pretty unimportant.


If you click "Quote" you get the person you responded to? [Checking] Yup, you do.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 12:36 AM

There was the option to separate the two threads and leave the recent part with its title. I only pointed out the situation. I didn't demand any changes be made or people's time be wasted. The Re: is agreeably seldom of importance except when people post to the same third person at the same time. Many blogs are architecturally like a tree so you can flow back through streams of discussion. When only the first post is referenced all we know is what root our tree has grown from.

PS Sorry to gtho4 for the extra work but thank you for it too.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 01:57 AM

If you want to reference a specific post, you need to reply to it, not just fill in the Quick Reply box. That is a matter of protocol for posters, most of whom don't seem to care much.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 02:55 AM

Pre-Apocalyptic Post Apathy? smile
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 06:29 AM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Pre-Apocalyptic Post Apathy? smile
No, more a case of not letting my knickers get in a twist about things that aren't worth losing sleep over. wink I never read who is addressing whom. I simply read the posts and follow it all that way.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Tizzabelle
Originally Posted By: mehaul
Pre-Apocalyptic Post Apathy? smile
No, more a case of not letting my knickers get in a twist about things that aren't worth losing sleep over. wink I never read who is addressing whom. I simply read the posts and follow it all that way.


Ditto-- if someone's replying directly, the post will be right after it or it will contain a quote.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 11:37 AM

Or will say something such as "Kyle, I agree with your post at 10:15"
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 11:38 AM

To be fair the Re: thing seems to have changed recently. I ONLY use the Quick reply and it definitely used say Re: (previous poster) instead of Re: (original poster). I don't usually pay much attention to it either but it's quite apparent in the Chain Games threads where there are often muliptle simultaneous posts.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Feb 06 2013 11:48 AM

Quote:
To be fair the Re: thing seems to have changed recently. I ONLY use the Quick reply and it definitely used say Re: (previous poster) instead of Re: (original poster). I don't usually pay much attention to it either but it's quite apparent in the Chain Games threads where there are often muliptle simultaneous posts.



I agree, GG. I am using the quick reply now.

Usually, it uses the most recent poster for the Re:, and I know if someone posted simultaneously because it will be different than the one I'm replying to.


However, as you stated, the quick reply is using the original poster.

I don't know what changed, but it is definitely recent. I have always used quick reply. I actually, to be truthful, didn't realize there was an actual "reply" button. :P
Posted by: scorpion1960

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 07 2013 12:11 AM

Who is the editor in charge of Television entries?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 07 2013 12:42 AM

You can see the editors in any category from the home page by selecting Quizzes, then Browse Quizzes form the dropdown menu, then the category in which you are interested. You will see a welcome message, and a list of the various subcategories available to select at the next level. Under that, and above a sample of some quizzes in the category, is a list of the editors for that category. In the case of Television, they are shown as ladymacb29, Gamemaster1967, kyleisalive, guitargoddess. If you wish to contact one of them, you can do so by clicking their name there - when you see their profile, click on the option to Send a Note, and then do so.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 07 2013 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Linda1
Moving this up for "macquiz." Also take a look at Terry's thread, "Tips for Quiz Creation."

Here's Terry's thread-click here to go to it

[ link updated ]


That link took me to an error page.
Posted by: scorpion1960

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 07 2013 01:15 AM

Thank you very much.
Posted by: Snowman

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Feb 07 2013 01:21 AM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Originally Posted By: Linda1
Moving this up for "macquiz." Also take a look at Terry's thread, "Tips for Quiz Creation."

Here's Terry's thread-click here to go to it

[ link updated ]


That link took me to an error page.


Well it was posted 13 years ago.
Posted by: paa2isback

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 25 2013 09:41 AM

Well I have posted a quiz in General catagory 6 days ago. At that time the queue size was about 2-7 days. Well I know that I have a bad rating and least priority but then also it has not been touched even once since submitted.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 25 2013 09:46 AM

Hey, I've been in General for 9 days, untouched. Don't worry, it'll be your turn, soon. smile
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Apr 25 2013 10:01 AM

Please don't pay a lot of attention to that number. Here's a discussion that gives a slightly clearer picture of how the queues actually work. http://www.funtrivia.com/bb.cfm?action=details&qnid=27853&boardid=2222222 Kyle especially has a long post there that might put it in perspective for you.
Posted by: Irishrosy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 05:11 AM

Hi Terry and all,

The rules for Time Dependency make good sense. However, I am not clear on some aspects. Ten days ago, I submitted a quiz which in the Introduction to it, I stated it would involve questions from the 1940-1955 era. Not new to submitting quizzes (13 online I think), and basically getting them quickly there with little or no editing, I am surprised that this new quiz, just recently submitted, has not found its way to be reviewed and replied to re going on line or corrections.

I know that the General category takes longer and that this time of year is vacation time so if that is the reason, I do understand the delay.

My thought though is, have I accidentally made a mistake re Time Dependency causing the delay?

The amount of work for Editors I know is enormous, and I appreciate all the time and effort that goes into editing submitted quizzes, but I wish, if it will take longer than a week for a quiz to have some reaction either placed on line or suggestions from editors, that after 1 week a note be sent to the author of the quiz to say why. Even if it is to say an overwhelming number of quizzes submitted this month, etc etc etc

I think most of us understand and appreciate all that is involved in this matter, but just a nod to an author after a time lapse might be able to occur?

I thank you for listening.
Very sincerely,
Irishrosy
Posted by: LadyCaitriona

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 05:36 AM

Hi Irishrosy, and thank you for your patience in waiting for an editor to review your quiz.

I think writing to authors to let them know that their quiz will be seen to in its proper turn would be counter-productive. Most authors on the site know that the editors are volunteers and that while we are here because we enjoy what we do and we like to spend as much time editing as possible, we all have "real" lives and jobs and other things that require our attention, and sometimes tackling a quiz in the queue that's been there for a few days takes a back seat. If we spent time messaging all the authors who are waiting whose quizzes we don't have time to edit at the moment, that's less time that we can spend editing said quizzes.

I notice in the queue that your quiz says it was submitted (or modified) four days ago. Did you happen to access your quiz after it was submitted, and save (changes or no) when exiting? Every time you save a quiz when it is in the queue changes its date-submitted stamp and pushes it further to the bottom of the queue. Also, when you access a quiz (whether you save or not) and for a length of time after you leave it will display to any editor accessing your quiz that you are currently working in it. An editor will not edit your quiz while this is the case, lest we overwrite each other's changes.
Posted by: Irishrosy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 06:59 AM

I changed a typo after I submitted the quiz, perhaps that is what happened? How do rectify this situation if I have unwittingly sent my quiz to the bottom of the barrel? Thank you for you quick reply and advice. I do appreciate it.
Posted by: LadyCaitriona

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 07:10 AM

There's nothing that can be done if you've gone in and saved a change while the quiz is in a queue.

It's best to submit your quiz after a thorough proofreading and then just leave it be. If you're accessing your quiz even just to review, without saving changes, it's still going to notify the editors that you're in the quiz template possibly making changes, and your quiz will be skipped in favour of the next one in the queue to avoid overwriting each other.

As long as you've done a good job proofreading before you submit, your quiz is not going to be sent back to you for a typo; the editor will fix it as part of the editing process. It takes a lot more time to send back and then re-edit a quiz when it is resubmitted than to fix a typo or two.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 07:28 AM

Rosy,

although I'm not an editor I want to clarify a point. Time dependency in questions WILL provoke a reaction of the editor reviewing your quiz. The fact that you didn't have a reply yet, is not because you suspect one of your questions being time dependent.
Posted by: Irishrosy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 08:34 AM

OH sigh!!!!! and I did so love writing this quiz, boohoo.:o((( Maybe some day I shall see it online.:o)) I thought I saw you could edit so I did. Then I saw if you did it went to the end of the line, next time I shall know better...Thank you for taking the time to reply to me. I sincerely appreciate it.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 09:20 AM

The standard message after you submit does say you can modify your quiz at any time. And you can, nothing stops you. It's just not necessarily the greatest idea because, as said, it changes it's place in the queue. Now if you realize you've made a huge glaring error, it may be worth going in and correcting it and pushing your quiz to the end of the queue as it could actually save time versus having the quiz sent back to you and resubmitting. But for the most part it's best to leave it alone after you submit, even though you CAN make a change to it after it has been submitted
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 09:29 AM

Don't worry, it'll be edited! As long as it's in the queue, someone will get to it in time.

You might find this discussion useful http://www.funtrivia.com/bb.cfm?action=details&qnid=27853&boardid=2222222

And I'd like to enlarge on Jan's point - a couple of errors, such as time dependency, won't really affect when the quiz is edited, much. If the editors can see that a quiz will need major work - half the introduction is misspelled, say - they might wait to work on that quiz until they have the time or strength of will, but a basically decent quiz with a few issues is not really a problem.

The things an author can do to affect wait time are:

- Leave the quiz alone once submitted
- Do your best to follow guidelines and proofread
- Don't plagiarize
- Establish a good working relationship with the editors. A past history of totally disregarding instructions and fighting with the editors will result in longer wait times. A history of co operation and honest willingness to learn will not, even if there are some problems with the quizzes.

All that said, a long wait is more likely to be because of something on this side of the fence, and out of the author's control. Especially in the busier categories, it's probably not something you did, but just the realities of a volunteer workforce.
Posted by: Irishrosy

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Wed Jun 19 2013 10:53 AM

Thank you all for your replies. I seldom have any problem submitting a quiz and if so, it is a small one and resolved just about immediately. I do go about this site and read the rules to an nth degree. This was just one of those times that I think I was too hasty. Trying to be a perfectionist as it is asked when submitting a quiz makes me think and try too hard. This is a reminder to me, that a typo is just that...relax, and let things go when not grossly incorrect. In the future, so be it. I shall remember. I shall return. Smiling to you all.
Posted by: nmerr

nmerr's quiz 'How Sweet It Is" - Thu Jun 20 2013 12:27 AM

I submitted my latest quiz "How Sweet It Is" on June 8. It is now the 20th and still it has not been checked. I realize editors are busy but 12 days is a little long to wait. Any takers?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jun 20 2013 03:47 AM

Your quiz is submitted to a category which currently shows an average waiting time of 5-7 days. An average, of course, is a middling value - some will be longer, some shorter (especially if it is a resubmission that only needs a few things checked, rather than a full edit).

There is really no point posting a complaint about the wait - your quiz will be edited when an editor in that category reaches it in the queue. (Remember, each category has its own queue, there is not just one large queue for all quizzes.)

I recommend you read this thread about dealing with the queue and the editing process. (edited to remove a duplicated process0

http://www.funtrivia.com/bb.cfm?action=details&qnid=27853&boardid=2222222
Posted by: LadyCaitriona

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jun 20 2013 05:40 AM

Also, your quiz in the queue says it was submitted June 12. Any time you go into your quiz and save changes, it puts a new submission date on the quiz and puts it to the back of the line.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Jun 20 2013 06:09 AM

Comment removed.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jul 02 2013 03:25 PM

Is there any way of looking to see if an Editor is actually looking at a quiz WITHOUT clicking on edit to see, please?
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jul 02 2013 03:36 PM

No, there isn't. Once you've hit submit, an editor could be looking at it at any time. Another thing to note too is that even if an editor does look at it, that doesn't mean it's being edited and accepted/rejected at that time. An editor might open a quiz, scan it, realize they don't have time for it right now, and back out.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Tue Jul 02 2013 03:37 PM

Is that possible? I'm no editor, but I'd think that if they look at someone else's quiz, they are clicking on edit to see.

EDIT: guitargoddess answered before me, so I guess there is a way.
Posted by: Ellabear

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 09:41 AM

Hello I am a new author and I have some questions.

When I submitted my quiz a week ago it said the wait time is 2 days, then it changed to 3-4 days, then 5-7 days and now it's back to 2 days, so what should I go by? The wait time when I submit the quiz or the updates? I know the wait times are approximate but I am a bit confused. My quiz is still in the queue (I hope). I really like this site and I have a couple more quizzes waiting to go but it says I cannot because I am new and had to wait till my quiz is online first?

Is it possible to order the submissions so that I know, for example, that my quiz is 10th in line In Hobbies category for review? Would that be easier than just giving an approximate time frame?

Lastly, does clicking on the edit button accidentally put it back at the end of the line? I didn't change anything just clicked by mistake. So now I don't know where I am in line?

Thank you for answering my questions. I really enjoy this site and it is such a good learning experience whether I am playing the quizzes or making one up myself.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 09:53 AM

Quote:
Lastly, does clicking on the edit button accidentally put it back at the end of the line?


Clicking to save any changes to your quiz puts it at the end of the queue.

The queue wait time list has to be taken with a grain of salt; editors will try to edit quizzes in a timely fashion and in order, but are not obligated to do so. If they have a limited amount of time in a day they may choose a reliable author because they know they can place it online faster; they may choose someone they've already started working with because the changes might be made already; the quiz may simply be tagged for another editor (which I think is your case).

This is why we can't really give your position in line or a specific time. There are a number of factors at hand.
Posted by: Ellabear

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 10:33 AM

Thank you.
What do you mean by being tagged for another editor? Was my quiz in the wrong category?
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 10:45 AM

No, what Kyle is saying is a specific editor is assigned to your quiz. The editor assigned may be more proficient in what your quiz is asking about than the other category editors.

It will be looked at in due time and the staff is all volunteers.
Posted by: Ellabear

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 10:49 AM

Thank you.
So my understanding Is that the quiz is too specific? is there anything that I should be careful about on my side, or is this just an administration decision?

I really appreciate the time the editors put into editing the quizzes. I guess I am just a bit too excited about getting my quizzes on line and is getting a little impatient.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 11:01 AM

There could be a number of reasons a quiz is tagged. Some editors have different categories of expertise than others within a category, so one editor may be the sole editor for a particular subcategory and others will let that editor edit it. The first thing that comes to mind as an example is that NatalieW edits For Children, as does Looney_Tunes. However, Natalie will save Kids Literature quizzes for Looney_Tunes to edit, as it's Looney's quiz, so it may be tagged for Looney to look at.

Alternately, if an editor has already worked with you on a quiz, edited it and talked about it with you, typically the quiz will only be dealt with that editor, and others will not do anything with it, allowing only that editor to work with the quiz. smile
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 11:46 AM

Your quiz is being looked at by an editor in Canada, which is suitable considering the subject matter. wink
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 12:35 PM

A big number of submitted quizzes get tagged for a specific editor, it's not because it's too specific or anything the author did wrong. The reason most often is that the editor has already worked on it, like salami said, so if you get a correction notice on your quiz from editor A, when you resubmit it will wait until editor A can look at it again. Unfortunately it may happen that you resubmit, for example, just as editor A is going away for a long weekend, so it'll be a few days until it is looked at again. During this time, even if editor B is available to edit, they won't touch yours because editor A is already working on it.

This could happen even if you didn't get a rejection and resubmit in the interim. An editor may start editing your quiz, get halfway through and - oh no, the washing machine is flooding the house! So they stop editing, tag the quiz with their name and go off to deal with real life. It may be another day or two before they come back to finish with your quiz, but again in the meantime other editors won't review your quiz because someone else has already been working on it and we generally leave it to them to finish it. There can be exceptions; if the editor is going to be away for three months, well someone will take over the editing of the quizzes they were working on. But generally it waits for the person who already started it
Posted by: maninmidohio

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 01:48 PM

In the author's lounge located here you will find many discussions that are helpful to authors. The first thread (Editors discussing quizzes) includes links to several topics including an in depth discussion of the queues.
Posted by: Ellabear

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 04:54 PM

Thank you all for your explanations. I did not receive a rejection so I must assume my editor is taking his/her time to review my quiz.

As I said I was just getting a little impatient because I am not allowed to submit any more quizzes until this one is online. I have an Author Challenge one and another Adventures in Authoring one ready to go but am not able to submit them. When would I be able to submit more than one quiz at a time?

Thanks again for your replies.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 05:21 PM

It varies from author to author, with no fixed number or list of qualifications.
Posted by: ladymacb29

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 05:48 PM

As long as your quiz has a status of 'submitted' your quiz is in the queue waiting to be see by an editor. smile
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 06:00 PM

Quote:
When would I be able to submit more than one quiz at a time?


If you read some of those articles linked to, you'll get some idea. It's based on the quality of your submissions, and the tone of your interactions with the editors. A reasonable person with good writing skills who is easy to discuss issues with will get it faster, a person who fights the staff every step of the way and can't write an English sentence may never get it at all.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Aug 02 2013 06:38 PM

And there are many authors who never get the ability. It's not a certainty.
Posted by: pent2go

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Nov 07 2013 06:51 PM

I submitted a crossword approximately 6 weeks ago, and I haven't received any sort of notice regarding its progress. My other crosswords have taken 2 days-2 weeks to be processed, so I'm curious whether there's some sort of glitch here, or my other crosswords just got processed in record time.
Posted by: SilverMoonsong

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Sat Nov 09 2013 10:50 AM

Sorry about that. Real life kicked me in the tail. It's online now.
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Dec 19 2013 06:59 AM

I really wish that there was no quiz waiting time button! I look before submitting and it is an empty category. Next look and it is within 2 days. Then it is 2 - 3 days!
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Dec 19 2013 08:06 AM

I'd advise not looking!
Posted by: zippolover

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Dec 19 2013 09:31 AM

I agree, but it a kind of compulsion. You go through such self doubts while waiting. If only there was some way to know the quiz was not being picked over by stampeding herd of heffalumps.
Posted by: agony

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Dec 19 2013 03:51 PM

More likely it's not being picked over at all - that the particular hefflump who might normally look at it is in a honey trap.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Thu Dec 19 2013 03:57 PM

I agree it's difficult not too obsessively wonder about your submitted quizzes, but those wait times are very inaccurate, for many reasons. Often it works the opposite way too, like it might say 5 days waiting time but your quiz will actually only wait 1 or 2 days.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Dec 20 2013 08:58 AM

If a quiz sits for five days in the queue and two more are submitted on day five before the editor gets to them in one fell swoop, the average is really quite stilted. Not to mention any quizzes sitting for certain editors or being held for later dates (like the Advent quizzes).
Posted by: satguru

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Dec 20 2013 11:34 AM

Actually I didn't know there was a waiting time button, but knew there was a category waiting list, although I couldn't find the link and had to search for it externally. I don't normally mention it but as it's been raised now it says the hobbies queue is about a week but I'm now well over two. That in itself isn't unusual but my point being it does not reflect what the queue is saying, which isn't much help if it's over 100% out.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Quiz Queues .. waiting time - Fri Dec 20 2013 02:03 PM

The number really isn't much help, for a variety of reasons which have already been mentioned. I haven't checked it for years now. When I did, I only used it on submission to get an idea of how long I could expect as a minimum, to keep myself from compulsively checking every ten minutes to see if there was a message in my mail yet. One of my earliest quizzes went to a category that then had a single editor who went on holidays (outrageous! :D),so the initial 1-2 days got a day longer each day, a very frustrating experience.

Sometimes it is off in the other direction, too. If a quiz is sitting there for two weeks waiting for a particular editor to get to it, but the other quizzes are being processed quickly, most quizzes will actually be taking less time than is indicated by the average. The one that is waiting will take longer than the average - that is the nature of an average.
Posted by: Giniw

More than one Quiz under review - Thu Mar 20 2014 08:56 PM

What is the criteria to be able to submit more than one quiz for review? I'd like to be able to, especially if one of my quizzes is in a lengthy queue.
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: More than one Quiz under review - Thu Mar 20 2014 09:09 PM

That is up to the editing staff. There are no "set" criteria, other than just follow the rules of the category, working well with the editors, and having quality work submitted.
Posted by: gtho4

Re: More than one Quiz under review - Fri Mar 21 2014 12:00 AM

Scroll back through this thread and you'll find the answer.
Posted by: alexis722

Re: More than one Quiz under review - Fri Mar 21 2014 07:42 AM

The editors are a patient and busy lot. I've never been led astray by any and never gotten bad advice. In fact, if not for their courteous suggestions and corrections, I'd still be writing the same drivel as I started with.
Posted by: BarbaraMcI

Re: More than one Quiz under review - Tue Mar 25 2014 09:01 PM

I will wait a month for my quiz to go online. I will wait two months. I just want some kind of way to confirm that it actually is IN the queue, because I can't figure out how to tell and it's been 17 days. I know it's a busy category that explodes during Spring Break. If it's at the bottom of the queue and is going to take till Christmas, so be it. Just -- how do I know it didn't fall back in behind my sock drawer with my nail file?
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Quiz Queues...Waiting Time - Tue Mar 25 2014 09:08 PM

If it is your quiz about the Mills Brothers, it does not appear to have been submitted yet.

To check, any time, go to My Quizzes - Edit and look at the right hand column headed Online?, which will indicate Offline, Submitted or Yes with a date.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Quiz Queues...Waiting Time - Wed Mar 26 2014 03:00 PM

You can also go to your Author Central page and it will list your works in progress and your currently submitted quizzes, if any.

http://www.funtrivia.com/author.cfm