Daily Challenge Testing Thread
Posted by: Terry
Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 05:37 PM
This thread is for those involved in the testing of the new daily challenge stuff coming soon:
Wesley, Salami, Mariamir, TriviaKing, Kyle, Flopsy, KaddarsgirlEntrance:
http://www.funtrivia.com/dchallengeNot working yet: spending credits to gain new challenges, FAQ.
You are assigned 3 daily challenges each day, and can work through them at your own speed. At midnight your challenges expire and you are given 3 new ones.
In addition, I am still adding new challenge types. When I add a new one to the system, I assign the challenge to all testers, so you can all mess with it if you want to.
Feedback I'm looking for:
- Any bugs. So, if you think you've completed the criteria for a challenge but it doesn't give you credit, let me know. Likewise, if it gives you credit and you haven't completed it.
- Suggestions if something appears way too hard or way too easy (medium and difficult level challenges). I'm still messing with adjusting difficulty levels.
To everyone else not testing: this is coming soon. It should be fun!
Thanks!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 05:46 PM
oh yeah, any pts you earn will be erased when it launches
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 05:51 PM
Looks good! I've just done my "easy" challenge with no problems but it's my bedtime now so I look forward to seeing what tomorrow has in store.
(Shame about the points, lol)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 05:52 PM
You have to say anything... I have over 70 of those things
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 05:52 PM
Terry, my Twin Challenge is listed as incomplete again.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 05:54 PM
And same with Wes'. I was under the impression than once we had that it wouldn't go away. We don't have to END the day with those stats, do we?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:03 PM
Are our scores even the proper points apart?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:05 PM
They have been, twice today. The fist one reset because it was during original making-of-it-ness.
Then I was 2500 ahead, exact, and it was complete. The wording leads me to believe we should both still have it. Yet we do not.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:13 PM
Oh, I see.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:23 PM
I've completed my Easy and Medium challenges for today. I guess it's up to me to try to get the Twin Challenge one for flopsy and me, since I'm the only one still on of the pair of us. My Medium challenge, 52 correct answers in Geography seemed pretty easy. I only had to play 4 quizzes (25q, 10q, 10q, and 10q) to get the required points. So far so good on giving credit when I earned it.
Edit to update: Finished my individual Difficult challenge and won Early Bird to boot!
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:29 PM
Just a question, how on earth does one score just a few points like one or two to be the required points?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:32 PM
I scored more than the required points, not the exact number. I'm pretty sure I had 9 extra.
Just read Wesley's reply, I guess it's a little unclear to me what you mean by getting exact points...
If you're referring to my Medium challenge where it says "score a total of 52 correct answers", maybe it's a bug that I got it with more than the required amount if it's supposed to be exactly 52, not at least 52.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:32 PM
The best way to get an exact score is to deal with that pesky last digit first. Then you should have multiple options for the rest. Don't want to permanently spoil this game for everyone here now that the testers have seen it
And if it's for a precision badgelet, hope afterwards no editor will just then accept one of your single Qs
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:37 PM
hope afterwards no editor will just then accept one of your single Qs
Been there, done that, happens all the time. None in, anyway.
Thanks! Now I need a calculator to see how many more points I need.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:37 PM
"Score a total of 52 answers" can be done with anything greater than that.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:38 PM
If you're referring to my Medium challenge where it says "score a total of 52 correct answers", maybe it's a bug that I got it with more than the required amount if it's supposed to be exactly 52, not at least 52.
I was talking about the Twin challenge. Trying to get the right distance in between.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 06:46 PM
Glad that's cleared up! I wrote my response, then realized it probably wasn't what you were referring to, and banged my head on the laptop keyboard...
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:17 PM
Gotta wait for triviaking to come online to get my precision challenge done.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:29 PM
No you don't, Kyle. :-)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:34 PM
yeah I keep resetting your challenge salami to test stuff
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:36 PM
Yeah-- that clicked soon...and then I got 2501 and had to move on to the next target.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:46 PM
Wellill be, Terry, no wonder. ;-)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:49 PM
you've now solved it 3 times in one day. you guys are good
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 07:59 PM
I'm going to keep scoring. I am NOT staying away from the Globals. :P See if I can equal salami's score if we need to do it again.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 08:22 PM
It doesn't count, so ignore it if you want! It seems to all be working fine.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 08:35 PM
Just completed the Twin Challenge for flopsy and me with the exact same score. That's it for me, see you all tomorrow! Everything appears to be working fine on my end, Terry.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 20 2012 11:43 PM
Thanks for bailing me out, Kyle
Everything's good on my end!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 05:20 AM
Well, I failed the reading test and didn't complete my Easy target in the right mode, lol. When you're doing the final layout, Terry, can you put that requirement in bold? Take pity on oldies who can't see straight and on people who don't read the question - or in my case players who fit both descriptions, lol. Epic fail.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 06:11 AM
didn't complete my Easy target in the right mode, lol. When you're doing the final layout, Terry, can you put that requirement in bold? Take pity on oldies who can't see straight and on people who don't read the question - or in my case players who fit both descriptions, lol. Epic fail.
It's not just oldies, lol. I did the same thing. *facepalm* Didn't read the requirement, played in HTML. Only it didn't even tell me "play in Game Mode". Still, FAIL. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:02 AM
lol flopsy.... ok, ill bold it
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:10 AM
"You may replay quizzes you have played over 30 days ago."
I don't know, that just sounds odd to me.
How about:
"You may replay quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days".
Eh, still not great, but for some reason, the wording we currently have is kind of odd sounding to me.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:28 AM
what challenge is that from?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:35 AM
Various challenges have it. My "Medium" one has it today.
Play 6 quizzes in sub-category Common Titles and score at least 6 correct in each. You may replay quizzes you have played over 30 days ago.
So far: 1 quiz. Incomplete
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:37 AM
Score at least 5/10 in any International Hourly game. Works fine.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:43 AM
Was there a problem? Anyway, worked for me, too.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:46 AM
Was there a problem? Anyway, worked for me, too.
Likewise.
Back to done 'em all.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:48 AM
Worked here as well. But, then again, I didn't expect it not to.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:54 AM
I'm just confirming any new challenge which seems to work without a hitch so that Terry can scratch that one off the "worry" list. Please do the same if you're the first to make it - it just adds documentation that things have been tested successfully.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:03 AM
Crossword puzzle challenge still works even though I'd played it before. That's good.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:09 AM
Finished my challenges have I. No problems found I. Back to twitching, I am.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:17 AM
Improved that text salami.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:24 AM
Thanks so much, Terry!
Both the other international game challenges work, even if I complete them both in the same hour.
Get 7/10 in 2 of the 4, and 7/10 in all 4. Both work fine.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:27 AM
Get 7/10 in 2 of the 4, and 7/10 in all 4. Both work fine.
2/10, 4/10, 2/10, 2/10. What sort of lousy score is that? My apologizes. :-S I don't score well, apparently.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:29 AM
Haha, I was familiar with most of the questions, and the last few in every single quiz were roughly the same. Odd, I thought... But I got the "ear nose and throat specialist" question every time, the "what makes it florentine" question a few times, and a few others that were common throughout. Made it a wee bit easier.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:32 AM
Oh yes, the ear/nose/throat one I'd seen before. Then there was the question that appeared in two of them, got it wrong first time, got it wrong second. grrrr.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:37 AM
Rank #1 in your division in any hourly game.
Best rank so far: 3. Incomplete
But I was first in the Expert.
http://www.funtrivia.com/expert/winnerstoday.cfm
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:40 AM
As was I.
Either champion division doesn't count, there weren't enough players to count, or it didn't register scores from that early in the morning (since it was created after both of our wins).
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:42 AM
But it ought to register from earlier. Yesterday or the day before challenges were appearing with a tick because I'd done them already. Maybe champion doesn't count? I KNEW I shouldn't have played champion! 7 players seems like quite a lot.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:42 AM
Fixed.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:43 AM
Ahhh, thank you very much, Terry!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:44 AM
Just because they registered before doesn't mean they'll register this time. I think this is a brand new one he created, so it probably doesn't have a memory of previous hours. It won't register.
Besides, you and I had to win the twin challenge three or four times yesterday, having to be first in an hourly again today isn't so bad.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:46 AM
Ahem. See above.
First in an hourly isn't bad if one CAN, it's the process.
Pshaw, the twin challenge was easy peasy.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:46 AM
also BTW, although you guys are getting these "very similar" challenge types at the same time, I've added code so that in reality you'd never get these combos on the same day:
Rank in the top 5 in your division in any hourly game.
Rank #1 in your division in any hourly game
Score at least 7/10 in any two International Hourly games in the same hour.
Score at least 7/10 in all four International Hourly games in the same hour.
etc etc.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:53 AM
That's good, I had thought there would be a way not to get them in the same day (especially for those that want you to play the daily quiz at different difficulties).
I had thought it might be possible to get two in the same day, but I knew you had something to prevent it.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:55 AM
Mariamir, we have both been checked off now for that one. Perhaps we alerted Terry to a bug with our little conversation, or it just was new enough it hadn't ticked over yet.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:56 AM
Maybe we ticked it off.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 11:03 AM
My screen is so pretty with all green checks. I don't think I've actually been able to do that yet.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 11:17 AM
I have, I have!
I FINALLY got 7/10 on all...except United Kingdom. Am slapping forehead VERY hard. Darn it!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 12:18 PM
I just logged on and I have 6 more credits than I had yesterday, with no completions marked on my page.
I was apparently credited with two Difficult challenge completions that I didn't know about.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 01:51 PM
I just tried to beat the system by replaying something today (my Easy task) which it says won't count until tomorrow... and it's right, it didn't count it. Just checking.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:11 PM
Forget this post. Problem solved...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:14 PM
I find it humorous that I can see the coding because I am looking at a new challenge as Terry is creating it. It isn't ready yet, but it shows on my screen. Purple boxes! :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:15 PM
I find it humorous that I can see the coding because I am looking at a new challenge as Terry is creating it. It isn't ready yet, but it shows on my screen. Purple boxes! :P
I just thought the same thing!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:18 PM
My Global Challenge task just went from incomplete to complete after playing one category of this afternoon's game. Is it counting the 5 I played this morning for this or is that a mistake?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:19 PM
"I was apparently credited with two Difficult challenge completions that I didn't know about." - probably just a side effect of me undoing and redoing the scoring.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:20 PM
yep, it counts this morning.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 02:27 PM
Oh, I completed my Medium Challenge "Time to be creative! Come up with 3 trivia questions to add to our pool, in 3 different categories." with no problems.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 05:27 PM
I don't know of this has been verified but I did an easy challenge (Score at least 1104 pts in the Daily Game and finish a crossword without any problems. The 5 sets in the GC worked too.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 06:16 PM
Finish in the top 5 in your division in a hourly game works too.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 06:22 PM
Finish in the top 5 in your division in a hourly game works too.
I'm having so much trouble with this one today, it's a little depressing. I know I can do it because I've done it many many times before. I guess today is just not my day. I've won Expert 11 times (and once I beat everyone else in the entire game), and I've won Piece of Cake and Word Wizard before...just cannot pull it together for this challenge...
Update: YAY!! Finally got a top 5 finish to complete my last Medium challenge! With my luck on categories today I'll be hard pressed to get a first place finish to complete my final challenge, so I'm going to call it a night. All the ones that I did complete today seemed to be recording and working fine on the challenge page.
Terry, these were very fun today! I played so many more daily challenges than I've played in a day for a very long time. It was a nice change from my normal "regular quizzes only" routine.
And added bonus: I also won the new "Zero" challenge, in 16 secs!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 06:32 PM
Apart from my inability to read the instructions earlier today and my normal failure in the
Ouija Board Crystal Ball I've managed to complete everything today with no problems. Well, apart from the Nemesis challenge which Kaddarsgirl will win - and deserves to win because she got me through the Twin Challenge yesterday.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 07:24 PM
You're not expected to complete all challenges, so dont worry about it if you cant. The difficult ones in particular are designed to be very hit or miss.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 07:25 PM
You're not expected to complete all challenges, so dont worry about it if you cant.
But...but...but...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 07:37 PM
Amen, Kyle.
. Points will be gone soon though, so it doesn't really matter. :P
Posted by: underscored
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:30 PM
Well hate to day this but glad its people who actually know what they are doing???
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 09:43 PM
Well hate to day this but glad its people who actually know what they are doing???
What?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 10:03 PM
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 21 2012 11:58 PM
Nemesis failed spectacularly when all daily points reset at 10 to midnight
At least we now know what happens on a tie: One player gets it, the other does not. Not quite fair - this would have to result in a double fail.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:09 AM
But according to the Yesterday's Scores, no one got it. Am I missing something?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:12 AM
...Jumped the gun again on this one. Apparently the quiz of the hour switched to the next hour after I started playing it...so it didn't score the first one I played, and I had to do it twice...bummer.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:13 AM
When I first checked, it did show Salami as winner and you as loser.
However now it does show everyone as losing even though I did play a quick instaquiz in the 10 mins to make sure I would have a small score to check whether scoring worked the way it should.
So complete sequence of events:
- 10 to midnight, scores reset as normal
- If anyone scored in those 10 mins, it would count
- The winner was determined correctly based on those 10 mins except for the fact that a tie resulted in a random (first started?) winner. At this point, the challenge still showed the scores of both players along with the complete/incomplete
- A few minutes later, the score display had disappeared and everything was "incomplete".
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:16 AM
Hmmm, maybe it reset? Because Salami was definitely ahead, but now his yesterday's score shows "incomplete".
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:19 AM
Hmmm, maybe it reset? Because Salami was definitely ahead, but now his yesterday's score shows "incomplete".
Yeah the 10min before change over definitely screwed up the scoring. I was ahead of flopsy by several thousand points...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:21 AM
The score reset at 10 to midnight is normal - the challenge needs to check at 23:45 or so. Or, of course, look at the "Yesterday's score" field for final results.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:23 AM
The score reset at 10 to midnight is normal - the challenge needs to check at 23:45 or so.
I never noticed when the scores changed over before, I'm not normally on this late. Why do the scores switch over at 10 'til midnight?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:33 AM
It doesn't work exactly at midnight because for several reasons they have to be processed on the day they actually happened. The 10 mins makes sure the score reset and everything based on it (Brains, Endurance, etc) is correctly done by the time the date flips.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:35 AM
...and Terry is just working on the fix
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:36 AM
At this hour of night? Or morning, I should say.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:38 AM
Nemesis fixed.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:39 AM
At this hour of night? Or morning, I should say.
Yeah I work at weird hours
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:11 AM
I've just looked at my challenges for today and it presents me with a moral dilemma. If I do Mind Melt in casual mode (at least I read the task properly today!) my score won't count for my team because only timed mode counts for the team competition. That's a horrible choice to make, lol.
Posted by: cubswin2323
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 05:45 AM
Shouldn't it just be made MM in general? NO WAY would I play MM in casual mode.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 07:23 AM
The task is to play in casual, cubs. If you don't want to doit if you ever get the task, don't. :-)
Flopsy! Do whichever you want... I think the team can manage if you play casual. :P
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 07:39 AM
Flopsy, my team manages when I don't play at all. :P But then, we aren't champions defending #1 spot....
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 07:56 AM
Sadly we're not no. 1 in Mind Melt and I had the top score for the team yesterday so I think I'll pass on the challenge just in case I can do it again.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 08:12 AM
I got credit for a difficult challenge where I shouldn't have. I only had 1 entering yesterday and after completing none of the hard challenges yesterday, today I wake up with 2! It might be a bug on the Nemesis challenge or maybe just a glitch but I shouldn't have 2 difficults completed.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 08:30 AM
Flopsy, I'll play Mind Melt in your place...
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 08:41 AM
However, today I got my easy and medium challenges without any problems. (score perfectly on an "average" quiz and complete a specific crossword puzzle)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 08:41 AM
triviaking -- you can ignore that. I re-ran the scoring of nemesis fixing it earlier, which double-billed you points.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:09 AM
Ignore Mind Melt / Daily game challenges for now. I'm rebuilding them.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:11 AM
But I was just heading over there to do them. :P
K, I'll be patient.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:13 AM
Ok, could all testers please play Mind Melt in timed mode at some point today, and let me know what your final timed score was.
You'll notice 3 challenges generated there, so it's possible for you to win all 3. If my difficulty levels are correct, at least a couple of you should fail the difficult one... hopefully
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:18 AM
Okay. But expect me to fail the difficult one, whatever it is.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:31 AM
I scored 1998 in Timed mode, and completed all 3 of my Mind Melt Challenges (highest goal was 1803).
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:34 AM
Is a goal 1803 any sort of challenge for you? Are there days when you don't hit that?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:41 AM
Is a goal 1803 any sort of challenge for you? Are there days when you don't hit that?
I usually play in casual/untimed mode. I normally get anywhere from 25-30 correct but I don't know what my equivalent scores in Timed mode would be. I got 24/30 in 201 seconds in today's game.
That being said, I think a score of between 1900 and 2200 would be about even hit or miss for me.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:45 AM
2266 for me. Did not reach difficult goal.
However, I had a more-difficult-than-normal set today. Typically, I range from 120-180 seconds, and usually get 28-30 correct. I am what I view as a medium-skilled player in my level range...
That being said, with time penalties, I would not put the game at much higher than where it's at, just above 2300. That's a good time, and I usually hit it, but sometimes not. 28 in 250 seconds will just barely win it, so that's doable but somewhat difficult for a lot of players. Perhaps up to 2500, but I wouldn't put it any higher than that for the difficulty level. 30 in 250 seconds is 2500, so, actually, come to think of it, perhaps 2500 is too high. 2300 is a good level, IMO. You don't have to scroll down very far to see the highest scores with that score.
So, long babbling nonsense short, 2300 is about perfect, but I would suggest not put it any higher, unless there is a way to detect how good a player is, so it isn't so outrageously simple for players like daBomb.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:47 AM
Looking at it again, the score for me to get was closer to 2400, it was 2395. Still, good time. Like I said, a lot of players get over 2500 easily nearly every time, and I'm off and on getting that high.
However, to keep it achievable by more players, keeping it at 2400 is a good number.
Ok, I'll stop babbling nonsense now.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 09:50 AM
Oh my, I just noticed, Wes' challenge is 2741.
That is getting all 30 correct in about 120 seconds!
There are an extremely small number of players who EVER get that score, and I view this score as FAR too high. You will only ever see a select few (I could count them with just two hands) reach that score. Granted, there will be occasions where even I might get that score, but this is extremely rare, and to get it as a challenge would be incredibly disheartening to just about anyone.
I play nearly every day, and I see the scores. Yesterday, only 4 people would have scored high enough to complete the challenge.
I would suggest lower the number, closer to my number, though that could go 100 more if you would like to make it a bit more challenging... Or you could make the 2741 an epic.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 10:14 AM
Uh, Terry, on second thoughts, methinks my challenge is too easy. The Difficult is 1760. I got 2668.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 10:19 AM
Wow, top notch score, Mariamir.
PS: 2500 would be a bit too easy, looking upon stats of all players. Still, Wes' unfortunate challenge of 2741 is still too high.
Or, ignore all my posts. Clearly I have no clue what I'm talking about.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:01 AM
My Difficult Mind Melt required score keeps changing. Is that supposed to be happening?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:06 AM
Mine, too. I think Terry is tweaking it.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:06 AM
Yeah I'm messing with the algorithm.
Seems to be improved somewhat now.
If it can't determine a relatively accurate average for how YOU do, it takes a look at how people in your level range do, and gives you a range somewhere in that until it knows more about how you really perform.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:18 AM
I protest! No Daily Game! ANYTHING but that! Well, not Obscurity, either. Nor Who am I. Nor...actually, just leave it like that. :-P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:24 AM
We'll test the "casual or timed" versions of those challenges tomorrow.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:24 AM
Missed my daily game difficult challenge by 21 seconds.. doh
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:32 AM
I missed even the easy by about 300 or more points.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:32 AM
I did not get the easy, medium, or difficult for my daily game challenge.
But, then again, I stink at the game and got a terrible score for me; even worse than normal. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:35 AM
Lowered easy challenge range a bit for all levels. Mariamir still misses out, but deserves it today
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:35 AM
Any reason the forums are running slow? I can move around fine on the rest of the site, but when I click the forums, it becomes incredibly slow, and moving around is very slow... Especially clicking on the challenge link.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:36 AM
Ok, fine, I say something, and it posts almost immediately, and it is no longer slow. Odd. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:39 AM
Yeah, I changed a config option cuz i was noticing it too.
Can you play around the forums a bit, do a lot of clicking for the next little while and let me know if the slow is all gone?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:39 AM
But, then again, I stink at the game and got a terrible score for me; even worse than normal. :P
Me, too. Which is why I don't play it.
but deserves it for today
*puppy dog face* Why?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:40 AM
It's slow for me, as well, Terry. I thought it was Google Chrome acting up again, but Firefox is slow, too. Better now, but still sorta slow.
Edit: Okay, working like a dream, now. Nice and smooth!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:43 AM
Nah, I am navigating through the forums just fine now. Everything is much smoother, and I was able to look through a few Chain Games without any issue. I don't know what you did, but it fixed the slowness for me.
And I knew it was the site, because other sites were working fine, as was the rest of this site. :P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:48 AM
Well, that will serve me right for playing for the team, lol. I got two words wrong (well, one wrong the other just followed) so my Mind Melt score today was only 2418; I passed Easy level but not Medium or Difficult. Still, at least the Llamas can avoid calling on Kyle, lol.
(Did you tweak that target while I was writing this because I could swear I'd met the medium target, now it says I didn't. I'm reasonably good at that game even though I hate it, so if I can't get the medium level I'd say the target was a bit high, but maybe that's just me.)
I got all the Daily Game challenges, though the Difficult level was set quite high. However in the Champions sets it's always tough to get a decent score.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:49 AM
I got my Easy and Medium targets, but fell 112 short of my Difficult one. I scored 1204.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 12:03 PM
Very happy with the numbers for those two challenges now.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:06 PM
I can't access the challenge page.
I get this:
An Unexpected Error has Occurred
We are unable to continue because an error has occurred.
The administrators have been notified of the problem.
Please hit back on your browser to continue.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:08 PM
That happens occasionally. It'll disappear soon, and probably with more challenges after.
Geez, 10 letter word, that's a difficult challenge with how few letters I had to begin today, and how horrid they were. :P If "wawatudzaw" was a word, I might stand a chance.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:14 PM
Lol, okay. Terry, get me to do Impossible or Obscurity one more time, and I'll....Grrrrrr :-P
Yesterday I did that challenge for 6 letters with "abient". I didn't even know that was a word. Before that, I had something like "eeeeaoainzjw" or something. Awful.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:17 PM
What's with me and 2,7,9? I got 792 score in the Daily, and 279 in Impossible. Next, I'm going to get 729 in WTS.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:18 PM
Yeah done with impossible and obscurity now
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:30 PM
Apparently my impossible score from this morning was high enough...I came back and had 3 new Completes!
Difficult score changed...now I only have 2
missed the Difficult score with my morning Impossible by 2pts...grrr.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:34 PM
Im done adding challenges for now. Maybe more tonight
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:37 PM
BTW if anyone has suggestions for new daily challenges, just write em here.
There are a lot of things that can't be done efficiently (or have side effects I don't want to get into), but there are many things that can be done. So, just throw up your ideas, and some will stick, and some won't.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:41 PM
How about playing 4, or 5, or all 6 of the 6 timed Hourly games (Mixed Trivia, Who's the Expert?, Piece of Cake, Who's Smartest?, Word Wizard, and Fill Me In) in a single hour? You could also add Obscurity for Gold Members.
You'd need 3 to get into the Tri Tournament, so it's definitely not out of reach to play all 6.
I don't know if they're scored the same to go by points, but you could maybe have to score in a certain percentage of your bracket to get credit (to keep people from just breezing through and getting bad scores to complete the challenge...)?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:45 PM
How about no more? :-P
What about more 24 hours? I'd really like to see a VG one, and see how many people get it. :-P
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:46 PM
How about 'submit a quiz'?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:46 PM
How about no more? :-P
What about more 24 hours? I'd really like to see a VG one, and see how many people get it. :-P
I know you hate the Hourlies and Dailies, M :P but not everyone does!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:48 PM
That happens occasionally. It'll disappear soon, and probably with more challenges after.
Geez, 10 letter word, that's a difficult challenge with how few letters I had to begin today, and how horrid they were. :P If "wawatudzaw" was a word, I might stand a chance.
Yeah, I have crap letters, and don't seem to be getting many more. I think I'm going to have to pass on the 10-letter word challenge for today. Besides, I'm saving up letters for the Alchemy Mini...1 word down, 4 to go.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:52 PM
"How about 'submit a quiz'?"
Not sure we want to encouraging people to as quickly as possible create and submit a quiz within a day.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:53 PM
"How about 'submit a quiz'?"
Not sure we want to encouraging people to as quickly as possible create and submit a quiz within a day.
If it were an 'Epic' challenge, we'd likely be receiving the submissions from people with longstanding devotion to the site anyways. That or they wouldn't be bothered with it, in which case it's their challenge. :p
Either way-- no big deal.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:54 PM
I don't hate all the hourlies and dailies...Expert is fun on some categories, I take the 2 team ones, and Crystal Ball and the two word games.
How about 'submit a quiz that doesn't get a CN'?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 01:56 PM
I guess team game challenges are next...
"How about 'submit a quiz that doesn't get a CN'?" would be a multi-day affair. interesting idea for a regular badge though.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:04 PM
Terry, I don't see that submitting a quiz as a challenge could be an issue, if you could have the system only give the challenge to outstanding authors who typically DO make a quiz in a day anyway. :P
How about "be in the top 4 in any category of Global Challenge (receive a thumb)" eligible only division 4 or later?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:08 PM
How about "be in the top 4 in any category of Global Challenge (receive a thumb)" eligible only division 4 or later?
I like this idea! Got a thumb this morning (1st place in category) and was very very excited!!!
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:10 PM
What's a thumb, other than in quizzes? And in one of the cats, three of us tied for 1st place. Who gets the thumb?
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:13 PM
"How about 'submit a quiz that doesn't get a CN'?" would be a multi-day affair. interesting idea for a regular badge though.
This is something that's been brought up in the past-- editors don't want to be receiving messages along the lines of 'please don't send any corrections because I want the badge' or 'it's because of you that I didn't get my badge' for any errors.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:14 PM
The thumb is for a top 4 place finish in your division in a category of the Global Challenge.
For instance, I was third in a category, got a thumb. They're relatively unimportant, but it is nice when you have a really good round and see a page full of thumbs; you know you did fairly well that round.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:15 PM
A thumb is awarded in the Global Challenge... if you are in the top five four for that category. You can see your scores, and any thumbs, for previous sessions by going to "My Results" in the Global Challenge pages.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:18 PM
Oh, I see. Thank you, both of you.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:21 PM
"Rank in the top 50% of players in your division at the close of an hourly game of Who's the Expert?." is going to be a tough one for me today...not favorable categories so far, and the one in the queue I know I'm good at I'm already a Champion in, and I seemed to do much worse in Champion games than regular ones...keeping going though, maybe I can random guess my way into the top 50% of a category I don't know well...who knows, that's how I won "Zero" yesterday...random guesses
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 02:22 PM
Terry, when there is a challenge involving overall scores in the GC, I assume you'll program these in with appropriate scheduling? In order for me to complete my Difficult category today I would have to have played both morning and evening sessions of the GC. However, by the time that challenge was issued there was only one session left for today and as I'm not playing the GC this time round and didn't do this morning's session, I'm unable to complete the challenge. If we were playing this for real I'd get annoyed at missing out on a challenge just because of the time it was issued.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:04 PM
Umm, I now have 2 Difficult Global Challenges, one for 11854pts and the other for 11103pts...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:07 PM
I have two of them as well, and I just BARELY missed the second one.
I also agree with Flopsy about the Global. If someone isn't actively playing the Global, and doesn't check FunTrivia until after the second set begins, they've just missed out on that challenge simply because they were not online.
Perhaps that could be programmed to only give you that challenge if you check it during the first set of the day?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:10 PM
I also would like to know how those Global points are added up. According to my own calculations, I should have 14595 (I think a tiny bit more, I didn't see a score but I rounded down in my calculations) points, but it registers me as under 14,000.
Does it, perhaps, not count the impossible scores added with it?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:11 PM
goes and looks at the Global Challenges
You're kidding, right?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:13 PM
14595!?! I will be lucky if I can get to my lower goal of 11103...
Just completed both of my Difficult Globals with a score of 11960. Did better this morning: 6483 for a first-half total.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:20 PM
Well, I played a lot of categories I know well, and remember, I've been around much longer. I have recognized a lot of answers.
That's not even close to what others can score. I'm usually not on the list for highest scores (just over 7,000 total for both sets). There are players out there, Jules comes to mind, who will have over 16,500 as their total.
The only issue I see is that the averages for just about anyone will typically get much lower in later levels (when everyone is at level 6 or 7, you start to see fewer and fewer over 8,000 in a set, then eventually none). Will these totals also get progressively lower depending on which division you're in?
I cannot imagine trying to get 13,500 in division 8 or 9!
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:24 PM
BTW, my post was talking about having to do the challenges. I mean, I think I have a total of 4500 some. Comes from playing hardcore and not scoring ten, and also trying to get 0 in Impossible. :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:26 PM
Who are you replying to M?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:30 PM
No one. Just a heads up to whoever might think that I'm talking to you or salami...my first post was a little in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:33 PM
I'm done for now, going to wait for Lord of the Rings in Expert to show up in 3hrs to try that for that challenge again. Can't complete the others I have left, scores are too low of both Difficult Daily and Impossible, and not doing Word GM one. Will check in later tonight.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:35 PM
I'm just about stuck myself. The only thing left is the word wizard one, and there's no way I'm going to do well enough to get that. Oh well.
This game is looking great; not much tweaking left, it won't be long before it's ready for the world, I imagine.
And I'm sure Terry already has the badge ideas outlined and raring to go. :P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:42 PM
I just noticed that most people have got four Easy Challenges listed for today but I've only got three.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 03:56 PM
I got my worst score ever in MM! For some reason I just couldn't get anything related to each other. I only got 698 points!
This score is a clear outlier. I usually do so much better at it. But I guess it wasn't my day.
On the other hand, I did get all 3 of my daily game challenges
I got 1330!
This has been so much fun!
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:00 PM
I have two "Dominate the Global Challenge!" difficult goals. One at 11476 and another at 11739. Just a little bug.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:02 PM
GC challenge changed to not be awarded after 10am.
Ignore doubles, missing challenges, etc. That's all from me just messing around adding/removing stuff.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:11 PM
Aww Terry, you keep changing my Difficult score goals, and I keep losing checkmarks
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:15 PM
they dont mean anything.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:16 PM
I know, I just like seeing the "Complete"!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:24 PM
lol! I should issue you 10 difficult challenges and really mess with you then
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:27 PM
Kyle, get on with some editing please - but not in Video Games, lol. I need to see a few quizzes go online so I can do this task.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:32 PM
lol! I should issue you 10 difficult challenges and really mess with you then
That would be so mean! It's fun though, trying to complete the more Difficult ones. More so than the "Easy" ones, anyway. I like a good challenge
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 04:46 PM
GAH!!! Missed my "Expert" goal by 1 question!!! So close...
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 05:02 PM
Kyle, get on with some editing please - but not in Video Games, lol. I need to see a few quizzes go online so I can do this task.
I have a quiz in the TV queue that needs to go online...but it's mine.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 05:20 PM
Kyle, get on with some editing please - but not in Video Games, lol. I need to see a few quizzes go online so I can do this task.
I got lucky with my Early Bird challenge Day 1. There was a quiz that had gone online less than 5 mins before I looked! And the answers to all the questions were easily found on a Wikipedia page, so all I had to do was search for the answers (with my Mac's cool "find" feature)...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 05:55 PM
Quick question Terry, if I finish my division in "Expert" exactly in the middle of an odd number of people, will that count as being in the top 50%?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 05:57 PM
Probably not
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 06:12 PM
Moved myself up a few spots with my Expert Mulligan! Hopefully it lasts! First time I've ever used my "super power".
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 06:45 PM
Yay, barely made it! Whew. Another one checked off.
Posted by: shuehorn
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:34 PM
You guys are making me jealous! I wish this were available to the general FT populace!
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 22 2012 11:51 PM
Patience, young Jedi, patience. Testing, we are.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 08:59 AM
Im throwing the GC challenges back in for today since I changed some of the scoring calculations.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:02 AM
Can you do the impossible? Score at least 552 points in one of today's Impossible! games in the Global Challenge.
Scored 589. Incomplete
Hmm....
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:06 AM
I'm not quite fond of the "ask FunTrivia" challenge. It was difficult for me to find a question I actually cared to have an answer for, that I couldn't look up the answer to myself online.
I imagine we'll be inundated with tons of boring, easily-answerable questions if players have this as a task...
Unless, you didn't mind?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:17 AM
Fixed impossible
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:21 AM
Still just a curious question...
Does the cumulative score on Global count all 6 games you play to reach the number asked?
I know I didn't do as good as normal during this set, but I have a hard time believing I only got 6117; my average is 7,200 even with poor impossible score. Hmmm, perhaps I need to go check my scores. :P
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:24 AM
Yeah, upon checking, my score is 7500something. Even if you didn't count impossible, I've got 6900 points.
So, a thought occurred to me, perhaps it isn't registering the double-starred categories, since they change every day?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:24 AM
Can you do the impossible? Score at least 576 points in one of today's Impossible! games in the Global Challenge.
Scored 274. Incomplete
Comes from trying to get the Nada badgelet. :-P I actually knew a couple of the answers.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:26 AM
salami, how do you see your scores for the current set? I only know how to view my scores after each set ends...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:30 AM
hmm it shows your scores as:
1 1473
2 1357
3 1451
4 1247
5 589
= 6117
Looks like you've only played 4 of 5 categories?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:36 AM
hmm nope there's a bug there for sure, will fix it shortly. gotta run for a few
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:39 AM
I assure you, I've played all 6. And I show up with 7500 on the cumulative list (kaddarsgirl, this list is in the global stats section, under the "today's trivia heroes" section).
Perhaps, Terry, since the Global Challenge technically claims there are 5 categories to play, plus a bonus impossible game, it only registers the first five games played, and missed my sixth game (the bonus game, meant to be the impossible).
I played impossible first, then religious figures, and, looking at my scores you posted, that is indeed the order I played them (reverse order, I played impossible first).
I played For Children last, and got 15 in 49 seconds, for 1451 (the second time I got this score this set).
So, I should have two scores of 1451, but your list only shows one.
So yes, I played all 6, and the game only registers the first 5, methinks.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:39 AM
Well, after all that posting, Terry has already discovered there's a bug. :P
Thanks, Terry.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:56 AM
I assure you, I've played all 6. And I show up with 7500 on the cumulative list (kaddarsgirl, this list is in the global stats section, under the "today's trivia heroes" section).
Yeah, I didn't score high enough to be on that list...that explains it.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 09:59 AM
It's a tough list to get on, kaddarsgirl. I'm typically on the list because I play near the very beginning of the set, but I quickly fall off the top 100 scores. I was lucky today to have a high enough score to still be on the list. :P
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:06 AM
You could also go through your team's Global page. I think they're all listed on it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:08 AM
I just don't know enough categories well enough I think. I've won the For Children set a couple of times, and I'm pretty good with the General, Humanities, History and Literature. Movies and TV are hit or miss, because I don't watch a very wide variety of shows or movies. I can usually get 14 or 15 right on my good categories, but the times some people put out I just can't match. This time around I'm just hoping to make it into the 9th tier to get the Achievement badge at the end.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:09 AM
fixed GC cumulative
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:10 AM
It's also difficult to make the list if your impossible score isn't very high. Since it counts that score as well, there are a lot of players who can get 10-15 right in quick times, making it tough to see your name on the list.
Thanks so much, Terry! I'm glad it is sorted out.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:11 AM
Oh, looky there, that fix also gave me credit for yesterday's challenges. Haha.
Perhaps you could make a 15,732 cumulative epic score.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:12 AM
Ok, so I understood the first jump in total credits, but I just got another 14 since my post 1 minute ago. Odd. I don't mind, but odd. :P Just bringing that up in case there is a glitch or something. Unless Terry is just messing around with stuff.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:19 AM
Speaking of credits...Terry, are we going to get a chance to try the "Spend 9 Credits to Gain a New Challenge" button and spend the ones we've been accumulating? Has any work been done on that feature yet?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:26 AM
No, that will be done later. Still adding challenges
I want things to remain interesting for a long time, which means lots of challenges and lots of variety.
Added the Mind Melt "any mode" challenges. Give it a go.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:28 AM
Again, ignore jumps in credits. That happens when I rescore already scored challenges.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:29 AM
Honestly, I feel that 26 correct might be too low for difficult at my level (154). Though I am quite fond of 26 because I got 27, I would think 28 is a better number for a difficult, especially since it could be played in any mode and there is no time limit.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:32 AM
Same here, 25 a little low. Just got 30/30, timed. Ever since you began testing these challenges, my Mind Melt abilities have improved.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:34 AM
Agree, increased difficult level. Wesley's scores are so good his difficult is 30. Hehe.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:34 AM
Yes, 28, that looks better. Thanks Terry.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:34 AM
Darn it! Got 26, but should have gotten 27 in the MM game....In the pull down I must have clicked the one right below the one I meant to click.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:34 AM
Terry, you make me smile, with your deviousness for Wes' challenges.
Which, by the way, reminds me, where is Wes? He didn't get anything yesterday.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:37 AM
Wes didn't log in at all yesterday.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:37 AM
Poor Wes, set upon by Terry, has gone away until the storm of challenges has blown over, I'll bet. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:38 AM
Yes, 28, that looks better. Thanks Terry.
Agree that 28 is a good target. It is for my level too I think. I know I'm guaranteed at least 20 because I never screw up the synonyms and antonyms parts (except for my 1 click-slip today). My trouble is the "fits best with", but process of elimination can usually get me 7 or 8 of these, and many times I've gotten all 10, for a 30 score.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:44 AM
Ha! My Difficulty level at Mind Melt was set at 30 too, so I guess my moan about playing for the team got its comeuppance.
Anyway, I usually get 30 but not quite always so it's a reasonable target and I made it.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:53 AM
Nice, Flopsy.
30 isn't too difficult a target for some of the better players. I'm in the same boat at kaddarsgirl, it's that last set I struggle with. I don't get 30 too terribly often.
28 is common for me, but I've been doing worse than that lately. :P Oh well.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:54 AM
Is mind melt for you 30 people generally memorization after all this time? Do you get a lot of repeats that you recognize, or are there still things you need to think about?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:55 AM
I think we're all in the same boat. That's my weakest set, too, so much so that I just leave it blank, not worth the time.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:56 AM
Terry has been driving me to the dark side and making me play that stupid game (I know Meathead likes it) the Crystal Ball. I swore never to touch it again... but now I have and have got the word twice in two days, lolol. Difficult challenge = tick!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:57 AM
So nice to have these friends in my boat
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:57 AM
Mind Melt for me is mainly guess, I'm quite good at guessing vocabulary words. I don't see repeats, but a lot of similar ones. I probably need to think about 50% of the matches or more. The second set, opposites, is the easiest. A quick glance is generally enough.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:00 AM
Terry has been driving me to the dark side and making me play that stupid game (I know Meathead likes it) the Crystal Ball. I swore never to touch it again... but now I have and have got the word twice in two days, lolol. Difficult challenge = tick!
I struggled with this one so much since coming back that I just gave it up. Even helpful hints from players with a lot of wins didn't help me much. I've actually guessed a few of the words...typing while someone else gets it...just cannot get the timing right...other times I just don't even bother after an initial guess. I've got this one today too, though I think it will remain Incomplete.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:03 AM
Mind Melt for me is mainly guess, I'm quite good at guessing vocabulary words. I don't see repeats, but a lot of similar ones. I probably need to think about 50% of the matches or more. The second set, opposites, is the easiest. A quick glance is generally enough.
I don't even look at the options on the left for the opposites ones. I just go to the pull-down menu straight off. I don't really have to think for most of these. The synonyms I look to the left, because often times there are a couple of similar ones. I have to think for the majority of the ones in the last set though. Sometimes I just can't do it, and select the same answer for my final 3, knowing that one of them has got to match it.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:07 AM
Yes, I use the pull down the whole time as well.
So much easier.
No, Terry, I haven't memorized anything in that game. Most often I get new questions every time, and if any old ones are repeated, it's been long enough in the past I had forgotten. I can associate the like words and opposites fairly easily, so get that done within 60 seconds, probably. Then I slow down considerably with the final set, just because it's tougher.
But no, it's not from memorization.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:07 AM
Flopsy, how dare you not like my favorite game.
My goal is 100. Getting close. :P
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:10 AM
Meathead, huh? lol. That game is really frustrating, but if you just enter without trying, you can get a few. I got a word on my very first try, then a few, then NOTHING for ages. Nothing one can do about it, really.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:40 AM
Yes, I win seemingly randomly. I just input whatever words I fancy inputting, and sometimes I win, and sometimes I don't.
Also, once I choose a word for a two-letter combination, I stick with it. That word will be the word eventually, and I will only change my initial pick once that word has been the word of the hour.
I'm still working on "qursh" and "qurush" for qu.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:45 AM
I wonder how many badges and badgelets Terry will make with this new Daily Challenge thing.
Currently, the maximum mini-badges one can win is 77 (there are 78 total, but one will never be winnable if you have the other, and there are a couple that cannot be won again by some, so, for the same of things, let's say, currently, one can win 76). That means we need 24 more mini-badges available so people can actually start winning the Challenge Mastery (100 badgelets). There are plenty over level 150 now. We need more.
It's been suggested countless times before, but the 24hour badgelets would be nice.
And I can imagine tons more can be made with this Daily Challenge game. The possibilities for this game are endless.
Of course, I don't like oversaturating a game with badges right away.... Gradually.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 11:50 AM
Currently, the maximum mini-badges one can win is 77 (there are 78 total, but one will never be winnable if you have the other, and there are a couple that cannot be won again by some, so, for the same of things, let's say, currently, one can win 76).
This made me really sad when I got the one and couldn't get the other. I like the one I have though. It would be the one I'd pick if I had to choose one. It's cuter.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:02 PM
I like mine better, too, but I like that the other one has less winners; so it'd be cool to have that one instead.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:07 PM
Couldn't make it online yesterday at all - business trip and the hotel promptly messed up its Wi-Fi
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:11 PM
Aah, what terrible luck, Wes.
Glad to see you back, buddy. :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:20 PM
Of course this also means scoring 13100 in the GC is out of the question... too late for the am set.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:21 PM
You wouldnt normally get that challenge because of the time you now appeared, but I generated them for you early this AM so it came up.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:21 PM
Of course this also means scoring 13100 in the GC is out of the question... too late for the am set.
Great! I have company in the "Not going to finish the Global Challenge" Challenge group. :-P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:26 PM
Well, I finished the GC challenge for you.
But mucked up the Daily Game.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 12:39 PM
I got the Daily, playing untimed.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:00 PM
I just took the wimp route for daily as well and got an untimed 20 (I'm *so* good at timed 19s that wouldn't have helped me any in that challenge...
)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:05 PM
Whoa!! Just came back online...6 new challenges! Funfunfun
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:05 PM
"Wimp route". :P
What can I say? I like green ticks.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:08 PM
"Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them.
So far: 0. Incomplete"
I've got tons of those! :P But I can't play my own.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:14 PM
19/20 on Daily "Wimp"
Though I did have to Google a handful (or two)...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:15 PM
Also just added code to better manage twins/nemesis. If it gives you a nemesis challenge, then it will make sure that the next difficult challenge it gives out to someone else is a nemesis challenge to ensure a pairing. Ditto twins.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:15 PM
"Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them.
So far: 0. Incomplete"
I've got tons of those! :P But I can't play my own.
Me too!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:16 PM
The "play ratings between 20 and 50" seems broken. I just played two that qualified, rated one of them (deliberately skipped the other) but am still shown as 0.
Both were not played before.
Edit: The one that should qualify is Injection Molding bits and bites #324012, the one that should not is Top Ten Free iPhone Apps 2007-2012 #350452.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:18 PM
Now I've got 2 different picture quiz challenges...I don't like picture quiz challenges...I'm really bad at them...and a bunch on my lists are Kyle's and Nightmare's...are there not a lot of people who make picture quizzes?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:20 PM
Also just added code to better manage twins/nemesis. If it gives you a nemesis challenge, then it will make sure that the next difficult challenge it gives out to someone else is a nemesis challenge to ensure a pairing. Ditto twins.
So the first person has to wait to find out who their parter/challenger will be? What happens if an odd number of people sign in that day, and one person is left with nobody to pair up with?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:21 PM
The "play ratings between 20 and 50" seems broken. I just played two that qualified, rated one of them (deliberately skipped the other) but am still shown as 0.
Both were not played before.
Edit: The one that should qualify is Injection Molding bits and bites #324012, the one that should not is Top Ten Free iPhone Apps 2007-2012 #350452.
Something definitely wrong. I just basked in Kyle's Amazing Race quizzes, I'm pretty sure I played five, but it's still "incomplete".
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:23 PM
Only editors can make picture quizzes currently, kaddarsgirl.
Hopefully, someday, it can be open to more prolific authors.
I am hoping to someday be one of those said authors.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:26 PM
Fixed
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:28 PM
Phew think I'm done adding for the day. getting there
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:30 PM
Still doesn't work, now I do get credit for quizzes played but not rated. Should be 2/5, have 4/5.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:36 PM
p.s. to answer Salami's question from earlier, what I'm siding with is mostly mini-badges for the epic challenges. Epic challenges will not be TOO much more difficult than "difficult" level. Each one will have a corresponding mini-badge though. I don't want to give out too many badges because I'd rather not skew levels higher too much more. I kind of picture 200 being the theoretical limit (give or take).
Im thinking initial badges will be:
- Complete 10 each of easy, medium, and difficult daily challenge
- Complete 100 each of easy, medium, and difficult daily challenges
- Complete 5 epic daily challenges. (and each epic gives a mini)
I'd like to put 10 epics / minibadges out there to begin with.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:40 PM
Do you have any epic challenges in mind right now?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:40 PM
havent got there yet
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:41 PM
It must have given me credit for quizzes I played earlier today, because I swear I didn't just reach five.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:43 PM
Oh, cool, so even after getting so many epic challenges, the incentive to still buy challenges to get them is there; you have to get lucky and hope to collect all ten. Getting repeats will happen, but that's part of the challenge. :P
I like those "try to collect them all" things (mind picturing Pokemon, Skylanders, and any trading card game out there).
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:43 PM
Yes, pretty much every challenge uses the 24 hr window.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:47 PM
There! That comes from doing math without a calculator!
Edit: actually, I'm going to continue scoring.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:48 PM
Also, is there a 3rd difficult either cooperative or competitive thing we could do like nemesis/twins? They're kind of fun...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:54 PM
What about something where both scores add up to equal something else, or equal AT LEAST something else (which would be a higher number than the equal match one)? So say, a goal like 10,000pts. It could be 200, 9800; or 3000, 7000; or 5000, 5000; or any other combination that adds up to the goal number, which could be anything (based on recent daily scores for both players or something).
Edit: You could call them the COMBO challenges...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:56 PM
Would like it to be completely different...
Some other way 2 players could work together that doesnt involve total points.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 01:59 PM
What about with playing a number of quizzes instead, like a "24hrs of..." but with 2 players and more quizzes? Or are you thinking something that doesn't have to do with a number of anything at all?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:02 PM
How about a scavenger hunt-esque twin challenge? Certain hints or criteria are given to one person, and other to another. They collaborate, and eventually find and play the quiz/quizzes.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:02 PM
Hmm... how about one that would work only for authors with a sufficient number of quizzes online... You must, together, play at least 20 quizzes from the respective other person and score 5 or better. Each side must contribute at least 5.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:04 PM
Also, I was thinking about a fourth badge, using those flags (since they've been suggested). The flags are assigned to the named challenges (twin, nemesis, etc), half of them medium, half difficult - fixed which color is which challenge. These challenges display the flag as a completion marker, not the check. You must collect all flags within a calendar year to win that badge.
Also, why not roll the "5 epics" and the "100/100/100" into one high level badge? The way the game is set up right now, you'd likely achieve them at similar times. That way we'd be back to 3.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:08 PM
I like it, Wes, I like it.
Hmmm, I kind of liked Kaddarsgirl's idea for cumulative points together, called the "Ally" challenge, to go along with the "Nemesis".
What kind of "something completely different" did you have in mind? I am attempting to come up with an "Ally" challenge.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:08 PM
How about a scavenger hunt where directions on what needs to be played is split up between the two players, and they have to share information with each other to solve it?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:11 PM
That was exactly what I suggested.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:12 PM
That was exactly what I suggested.
I was going to say you already suggested that, but you beat me to it
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:13 PM
Oh didnt see that, lol. Good thought Mariamir
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:14 PM
Great minds think alike?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:16 PM
Splitting might be tough in terms of who gets what (since you need to make two independent halves) and also it could still result in one player doing almost all the work.
Essentially, this could be more like a three-step to ensure true cooperation:
1) Identify the other player through some code or riddle
2) Send him/her the scavenger clue you got
3) Win the challenge if that player plays 10 quizzes meeting the clue.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:19 PM
That'd be very tough for players who have trouble with riddles and such to even start off the process.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:22 PM
That's what happens when so many people are posting all at once. We miss posts easily.
The problem is, sometimes you'd be stuck with a person who doesn't particularly care to partake in the challenge, or who does not check their mail or never responds. I don't like the riddle idea for that reason alone, unless there's a way to prevent that kind of player from getting the challenge?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:26 PM
Maybe if you want to do the challenge, you have to click an "I'll do it" button or something. Then, you will be paired with someone who also wants to do the challenge.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:29 PM
I have a small problem with the Author's idea, Wes, because it excludes so many people. I'm not sure how many authors there are in comparison with the number of active players but I'm pretty sure that there's an even smaller proportion of authors with 20 quizzes online. So aiming a general challenge at authors or a subset of authors seems to exclude the vast majority of players and I think it would be better to make them feel included.
Having said that, there could be a series of specialist challenges along the way, which don't detract from the general list any player might get but which could be an extra. So an extra authors' challenge for anyone with say five quizzes online, or an extra challenge for people with five Champions' badges... something people can do when they get there but which doesn't make them feel as though they never will.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:30 PM
By the way, I would also like to cap levels at 200. To make it interesting and permanent:
Regular levels (badges and points) are capped at 192. If you get more, you still have 192.
193 to 199 can be gained through having 90% or more of all awards from each of the gem levels (including Amethyst/Beginner). Yes, these can be lost again.
Finally, #200 is tied to completing the big one. You know which one, Terry. (Regardless of whether you're actually 199 already or not. It is one level that can't be denied.)
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:32 PM
Cap at 200? Aah, my goal of reaching level 1,000 will never be met. :P I was planning on having a billion points before I die, you know.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:34 PM
Well it has to be fairly straightforward or my head will explode trying to make it and debug it.
System selects 5 quizzes that must be played and scored by either of the 2 players.
Player 1 gets info A
Player 2 gets info B
It is very difficult alone, and a lot easier with combined info.
Info A:
The quizzes you are searching for can be found in sub-categories X and Y.
Info B:
You need to score at least X correct on each quiz to get credit.
The required quizzes begin with the letters A,G,S,O,T.
One of the quizzes has been played XXX times. Another has been played YYY times.
You have completed the following quizzes as a team:
...
Or something like that
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:35 PM
"The problem is, sometimes you'd be stuck with a person who doesn't particularly care to partake in the challenge, or who does not check their mail or never responds. I don't like the riddle idea for that reason alone, unless there's a way to prevent that kind of player from getting the challenge?"
That's just a part of it. It will be a difficult challenge, and if your partner goes AWOL it will be very difficult to complete.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:41 PM
Terry, could it be set up in a such a way that after a certain point if you partner hasn't competed any of their parts, that the entire challenge becomes visible so that the one who's actually playing can still complete it without their partner, even though it will be harder?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 02:58 PM
Maybe not the entire one, but part of the partner's info. (Let's say some place higher in the category tree or just one of play # and letter)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:00 PM
Maybe not the entire one, but part of the partner's info. (Let's say some place higher in the category tree or just one of play # and letter)
Except in some of the more obscure categories don't play numbers change all the time (same with ratings)? Maybe there's another way to identify the quiz that doesn't change all the time...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:03 PM
Sure, the play numbers change, but not by that much. If you've been given 13,116 and you now see 13,149 it's probably worth trying
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:06 PM
I hope you're grateful, Meathead, I just rated five of your quizzes!
And not a Beanie baby amongst them,
Which means I've done everything today but failed miserably at the Daily Game and hope that Wesley doesn't go on a scoring binge. And everything worked.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:06 PM
Oh, here's one idea just for the authors (obviously the rest would not get it):
"Play your own three lowest (worst) ranked quizzes and score perfectly on each. Opening the quiz editor before doing so will void the challenge."
Medium.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:06 PM
I suppose that's true (that's how I would do it, but not everyone would I don't think). Another identifier that could be used in addition/instead of (so they're not the same types every time you get the challenge) could be the number of words in the title.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:07 PM
Oh, here's one idea just for the authors (obviously the rest would not get it):
"Play your own three lowest ranked quizzes and score perfectly on each. Opening the quiz editor before doing so will void the challenge."
Medium.
I would fail at this one...unless I got the books out that I made the quizzes on :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:11 PM
What about this one (not sure if it's already been in, 'cause I joined up with you all after the first few days):
Play a certain number of Editor's choices quizzes, you have to search for them.
Edit: This could be for anybody and any level, just change the number of quizzes needed.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:15 PM
Not really good for a reason you can't know
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:15 PM
Not really good for a reason you can't know
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 03:21 PM
Well, that's unfortunate, kaddarsgirl.
I like the author play five lowest ranked quiz one. I would fail miserably at it, but it'd be fun.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 04:12 PM
So freakin' close in the Crystal Ball! Runner-up to one other person. Just my luck.
The word was "agitation" and I find it very fitting
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 04:29 PM
Close but no cigar on my two Difficult GC challenges.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 06:29 PM
So, more of a general question, but since we were talking about possible hunts as an option for one of these Daily Challenges...is there, or has there been any talk about, a badge for completing all the hunts? Curious because I saw today that I'm 1 hunt away from a sweep, "Just a Minute" (well, and the Great Seltist but that's not listed on the Scavenger Hunts page) is all I have left, then I'm done with the hunts....
There's another Setlist in making too, right?
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 06:59 PM
I like the idea where two players get different info and have to work together. That could be fun.
Did SO much better at MM today! Got all my challenges
All my challenges have worked without any bugs. They've all worked perfectly.
Almost got my daily game difficult challenge. Missed by 1
However, I didn't do wimp mode
I'm having such a fun time with this!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 07:42 PM
That's quite a potpourri of smilies triviaking!
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 07:57 PM
lol
How about a challenge where two players need to complete a separate challenge to win?
Ex: Player A must win a Who's the Expert? game
Player B must get a badge or badgelet
Both must be completed for the players to complete the challenge.
(Sorry, couldn't help myself)
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 23 2012 10:50 PM
I messed up our Twin challenge, accidentally overshot the mark. Sorry, I MEANT to get it.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 06:47 AM
I've done my first set of challenges for today. On the Difficult challenge (do 6 six quizzes marked tough or difficult and score at least 8/10) I noticed that my progress wasn't being shown in the right hand box - it said I'd only done 0/6 throughout.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 07:01 AM
I have to wait for a quiz to be put online before I can finish my Easy challenge, and I've got Twin today, so hopefully salami can match my 750 and we don't have to match a more complicated score later on today. Working on 3 new questions again today. 6 new questions submitted for me this week! Working my way toward that 50 goal for the badge...
Posted by: bubbatom1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 07:04 AM
Go TK!
Don't forget to share
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 08:27 AM
Will do, kaddars.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 09:21 AM
Thanks, salami!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 09:24 AM
Of course.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 09:47 AM
Hmm I can't duplicate that flopsy... it appears to show the numbers right to me.
can you try it again for a few quizzes? absolutely sure the page was reloading?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 09:48 AM
(i reset your streak to the last 2)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 09:52 AM
Kyle, also gave you the "in a row" challenge to give a shot.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 09:57 AM
Nevermind, bug found. It was displaying incorrectly if EVERY quiz you had played today fit the criteria.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:02 AM
That's an odd bug.
subliminal messages, oooooohhhh.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:05 AM
"Play any two 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each.
2 in a row found. Incomplete"
Uh....It's wrong.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:14 AM
gets in a row to get "in a row"And could "Participate in 6 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 5 correct in each game. " get a list of what I did already?...he's fast
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:20 AM
And could "Participate in 6 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 5 correct in each game. " get a list of what I did already?
Good idea! I was just trying which one I played when I logged on this morning...I realized I have no idea what it was (sad commentary on the state of my fairly young mind...)
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:21 AM
Participate in 6 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 5 correct in each game.
Word Wizard
Who's the Expert?
Played in 2 so far. Incomplete
That's wrong. Word Wizard is fine, but in Expert I only scored 2.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:24 AM
Yep, same here. Just played a 2 in FMI and got credit.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:27 AM
I don't know if it's happening in mine. I just looked an I recorded two Obscurity scores this morning, one that qualified (5) and one that didn't (1). My WW definitely counted though, with 11.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:29 AM
Participate in 8 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 6 correct in each game. Quiz of the hour counts as one.
I think this should be edited to mention that Obscurity counts, and some Gold Members may not notice it since it's not under the "Daily Challenge" heading for games on the main page.
This also is counting games incorrectly, as I got credit for Obscurity, with a 5, not a 6.
Now it's double counting my Obscurity as well. Both too-low scores.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:31 AM
Fixed
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:37 AM
"Participate in 3 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 4 correct in each game.
Word Wizard
Obscurity
The Mixed Game
Played in 3. Incomplete"
That's not correct.
All three qualify but are not being counted as complete.
Seems to be just a problem with mine, as the 3 other qualifying players have checkmarks.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:57 AM
Hmmm, I must score 6 correct in 8 different hourly games today.
I count seven hourly games...
Obscure
Word Wizard
Expert
Easy
Hard
Fill Me In
Average
Does Quiz of the Hour Count?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 10:58 AM
Hmmm, I must score 6 correct in 8 different hourly games today.
I count seven hourly games...
Obscure
Word Wizard
Expert
Easy
Hard
Fill Me In
Average
Does Quiz of the Hour Count?
This what mine says "Participate in 8 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 6 correct in each game. Quiz of the hour counts as one."
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 11:00 AM
Did I miss that? Oh gosh, the embarrassment.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 11:01 AM
*facepalm*
Sure enough, right there in plain site. I feel like such a dork now. :P
more subliminal messages. ooooohhhh....
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 12:43 PM
Score over X points in a global challenge game today.
What sort of point ranges should we have for easier/medium/difficult, given that you get 12 shots at this.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 12:52 PM
Actually I'm going to skip that one for now. It gets very complicated with newbies and the divisions and the harder questions as you go up.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 12:54 PM
You really only get 10 shots, because "Impossible!" is pretty tough for anyone to score really well in.
Easy I think could be something like 800-1000, which would be 9 to 11 questions correct and is pretty do-able, especially on your better categories.
Medium could be 1000-1300, which would be 11 to 14 correct, and in do-able on your better categories, but not so easy on one's you're unfamiliar with (that you may try because they have * or ** next to them).
Difficult would be 1300-1450 or so for the best of them. I can get these scores on my best categories, scoring over 1300 on 2 or 3 each round maybe, and scoring over 1400 on my very best on a good category. Some people do much better than me, and I think the best could still have fun trying to reach a 15Q in under 50sec goal.
Terry, you posted again right in the middle of me typing my response...
Perhaps with the different levels, you could decrease the top score for each E/M/D by so many points.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 12:59 PM
Rank number one in a Global Challenge game today....
That's a toughie this early in the competition. It takes 15 in under 30 seconds in nearly every category to take the win, especially since this game has newbies and experts alike.
Of course, if it counts earlier today scores, I think I would have won it. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:00 PM
Top 3?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:00 PM
Scratch that, I was second place to jules. :P
I like the idea, but it's an extremely difficult one to achieve. I am hoping my lone top score will hold out (15 in 122, I doubt it).
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:01 PM
I like top 3, Terry.
I had originally thought top 4, because that earns a "thumb" for your score. Perhaps, for medium, it could be top 4, and for difficult, it could be two scores in the top 4.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:01 PM
Rank #1 in one of your Global Challenge games today (when the set closes).
No #1 ranks yet in closed games. Incomplete
I'm sad to say that this one will remain incomplete for me today, barring a quite spectacular performance which has only happened for me twice in my history with the game. Rank at least #4 would be a bit more attainable.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:02 PM
Maybe medium top 7?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:05 PM
Hmmm, that's good, Terry. Medium top 7, difficult top 4.
Easy top 10, perhaps?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:05 PM
Actually going to just have the difficult one. Ranks dont exactly work well in the GC either because of the # of player differences that occur.
Maybe top 50% in a category for medium. That way it scales with number of players.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:05 PM
I think there should be a bigger gap than that, or there's going to be a huge jump down the Easy goal, unless there won't be an Easy type for this particular challenge type. Top 7 for medium I mean, should be more places.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:06 PM
Actually top 50% is pretty easy over 10 games.... ill make that the easy one
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:10 PM
Just played Obscure in an attempt at getting 6 correct for my Difficult goal...scored 8 right, on mere guesses, in 14 seconds, and earned myself an Achievement Badge, what luck that was...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:11 PM
"Rank in the top 50% of players in one of your Global Challenge games today. Ranks are assigned when the sets close.
Best rank: top 18.3% Incomplete"
Umm...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:12 PM
How about top 50% for easy, top 25% for medium, and top 10% for difficult? If there are 300 players, that's the top 30, and with that many players, that typically means 15 in 45 seconds, roughly. If there are only 10 players, you have to be the top player.
So, does 10% sound good for hard?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:13 PM
Those sound good to me, salami.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:14 PM
Rank in the top 50% of players in one of your Global Challenge games today. Ranks are assigned when the sets close.
Best rank: top 0.003968253
It says incomplete, but I don't expect it is all ready yet. I just found my top rank to be hilarious. That's a lot of digits! I was in the top 3 thousands of a percent?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:15 PM
guys, it takes me more than 15 seconds to build this stuff. patience :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:16 PM
But, but, but...you mean you're NOT really Superman?!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:16 PM
ROFL, I know, Terry. But, you're an extra-terrestrial dolphin. Time is nothing for such a magnificent other-worldly being. I expected you to start now and finish yesterday.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:19 PM
Ok, the middle one DID take me 15 seconds
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:35 PM
Having lots of trouble trying to come up with a second question for Question Quest challenge today. Very pleased with my first submission though.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:38 PM
Just noticed a spelling mistake in "You don't need to score well. You don need to take quizzes. All that you need to do today is..."
Second "don't" is missing the apostrophe-t.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:43 PM
Kyle, also gave you the "in a row" challenge to give a shot.
I swear I did 4 in a row the other day. Will try to tackle it. Just got back from a nerd convention.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:45 PM
Also, Share a Story works.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:46 PM
Which nerd convention? I visited comic-con this year. Was fun.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:49 PM
Ahh read your story. FanExpo sounds fun.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:49 PM
And I'm done adding for today. Might try to add a few over the weekend, but I'll probably be pretty busy. A few more days of adding and then we'll add the epics, then the badges, then we open it to the world.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:51 PM
Ahh read your story. FanExpo sounds fun.
It was good-- picked up my yearly stack of bad horror movies, bought some new D&D dice, and ogled some expensive video games.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 01:54 PM
And I'm done adding for today. Might try to add a few over the weekend, but I'll probably be pretty busy. A few more days of adding and then we'll add the epics, then the badges, then we open it to the world.
Can I try the "in a row" challenges? I haven't seen any of those yet since I joined up.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 02:00 PM
That was a fun challenge. So unique. And works fine.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 02:09 PM
Top 3 in GC is difficult as it should be, especially when playing HC. The story challenge is beautiful - a flag candidate if we want to make that one.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 02:29 PM
Wes, have you always been listed as administrator and I just never noticed? Well, congrats if it's new. Apologies if I just hadn't noticed before.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 02:35 PM
Terry, would it be possible to get a tracker on the Difficult GC challenge so you know at the end of the day how close you were to the target 3rd Place finish?
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 02:45 PM
You could find that out from your own Results page, kaddarsgirl.
Okay I played 6 tough or difficult quizzes in a row this morning, marked Complete... now it says my best attempt was 3 in a row. Someone has been fiddling!
I put in an Olympics story for you Terry... I loved the one about Water Polo, lolol.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 05:10 PM
You could find that out from your own Results page, kaddarsgirl.
I supposed I
could look there if I wanted to
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 08:05 PM
Wait, so Terry, if I win a GC set at midnight when everything resets, will I complete the challenges for today? I think I'll get all of my GC goals today (15/15 in 35 sec).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 08:45 PM
Just submitted my second and last Question Quest question of the day. Another tick! I am so proud of the two I came up with today.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 24 2012 11:53 PM
"Play any two 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each.
2 in a row found. Incomplete"
This still isn't/wasn't fixed. The requirement is 2 in a row, it says 2 in a row found (I got 10/10 on both) but still says "incomplete".
Ah, you are too fast. Thanks, Terry!
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Aug 25 2012 01:09 AM
Wes, thanks for doing our Twin Challenge. I saw your points begin to go up, and decided to not play. Turns out, was the right decision.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Aug 25 2012 01:28 AM
I had too nice a match between "Get 83 answers from quizzes" and the 2500 option to not try both at once. Without playing any hourlies, there was no ones digit to mess things up and so getting the 2.5k exact was easy.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Aug 25 2012 03:06 PM
Completed my easy challenge with only 8pts to spare. All my challenges today worked fine.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Aug 25 2012 04:48 PM
Mine have been working fine so far. Not sure if I can spare enough time to do my difficult challenge though.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Aug 25 2012 06:17 PM
My difficult challenge "Score a cumulative total of 2703 points in the Obscurity hourly game today." seemed a bit easy to me. I finished it in a few lucky games this morning. I think the goal could easily be increased by 1000, and still be attainable, but be more of a challenge.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 12:28 AM
kaddar, I am getting about 4100 when I get the challenge - it's all based on your past record. 4 good or 6 average games should do the trick. Remember we don't want a player to take the entire day so they can if desired buy extra challenges after completing the 3.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 01:40 AM
>"Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score 8 or higher in a quiz in 14 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days. You may retake quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days.
Incomplete"
Repetitive. One sentence is enough.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 03:45 AM
Where my points/tasks record would normally be, today the top of my challenge screen today looks like this:
Edit: and now it has gone back to normal.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 05:05 AM
flopsy, this is a test display with some of Terry's query logic for debugging. Ignore it, it'll only show on the first time each day you call the page and won't be in the final version.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 05:20 AM
"Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score 8 or higher in a quiz in 14 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days. You may retake quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days.
Incomplete"
Is it possible to see which categories I've done while doing it? Nothing big, I just like to see which ones I've done, and how many more I need to do.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 05:45 AM
Ah, okay Wes... but I'd never seen it before hence the comment.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 06:28 AM
Mariamir, eh? That's what it does...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 06:41 AM
Mariamir, eh? That's what it does...
Hmm? What do you mean?
Oh, I see. You mean it's just been added. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 07:40 AM
kaddar, I am getting about 4100 when I get the challenge - it's all based on your past record. 4 good or 6 average games should do the trick. Remember we don't want a player to take the entire day so they can if desired buy extra challenges after completing the 3.
Oh, sorry.
Posted by: _morpheus_
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 04:10 PM
Please be careful flopsy, you know what happens when you become dizzy.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 04:32 PM
Yes, RJ, my stick jabs in many directions.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 07:59 PM
Skipping my challenges tomorrow to celebrate my birthday, double deuces! Will be back to testing on Tuesday. See you all then.
Posted by: Aedan57
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 08:02 PM
hbty
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Aug 26 2012 11:53 PM
"Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score 8 or higher in a quiz in 14 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days. You may retake quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days."
Worked perfectly well. Still, the last to sentences repeat themselves. One can be removed.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:00 PM
"Play in an hourly game of Easy Game and score at least 891 points." vs.
"Play the Easy Game and score 10/10 within 19.0 seconds. "
both as medium?
Vastly different difficulty here.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:06 PM
Still tweaking the values. The 10/10 ones are about where I want them.
The 891 point one is certainly easier, but that's alright... it's actually a pretty rare generated case in practice.
NOTE: The 10/10 Easy game challenges need to be scored in realtime, since I don't store the seconds accurately enough in the long-term tables. In other words, if you played earlier today, you will NOT see credit for the hourly challenges.
When you play though and beat the time it should auto-update though.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:12 PM
The 10/10 ones are great (although I seem to have quite unusual values to merit an 18 as difficult and 19 medium. I can't remember playing between 18 and 19 that often.)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:13 PM
Check now. I re-generated medium
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:18 PM
23/17 is much more representative of my results. I play in the low 20s almost every day even if trying just 2 or 3 games, but a 17 does require trying and getting the right category.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:21 PM
System says your average time for a 10/10 set is 19.3.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:36 PM
Difficult is 14.0 seconds for me.... Easy peasy.
Wait, what's my average time for a set? Where does one see that information? Or is that a "just Terry" thing?
I think my average time today is quite good; I got under 11 seconds this morning.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:37 PM
Well I think that's about enough challenges for now. I'm starting to run out of ideas, lol.
Let's work on some epics. Need 8 to start with. Although I read your flag idea from before, I think I'll just use the flags for the 8 initial epics. That way (a) I can get this done fast, (b) we have a nice matching set. I also would rather not complicate things much further mixing flags in with regular challenges.
Our 8 epic flags: black, blue, green, orange, purple, red, white, yellow
Epics should be "very difficult", but doable by almost anyone if they put their mind to it. Remember that players will get these randomly, so will often not be prepared (or have enough time in the day) to complete them. So we don't want the requirements to be too insane.
The first one I think should be:
Green: Score in the top 15 total points earned today.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:38 PM
Your average is 15.5 secs
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:51 PM
Wow, great average!
Hmmm, seven more epics, I cannot recall any from my mental list. :P Will keep thinking.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:53 PM
Challenge purchasing has been added. It lets you buy a challenge if you have completed all existing challenges for the day.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:58 PM
When the easy game for today has ended, I will have fulfilled the remaining requirements. I will test challenge purchasing then.
The black flag:
Edited to preserve mystery as well...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 12:59 PM
Easy game time challenge didn't trigger for me. Played 18.23 but didn't get credit for beating 23.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:01 PM
Epic red flag: ---requirement idea edited out to preserve mystery :)---
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:04 PM
Ok think I fixed it for next hour.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:04 PM
Also, epics should ideally go on the Prismatic Staircase in the challenge list. "Daily xxx Flag". Players shouldn't know what exactly each does (I'll just put very mild hints into the intro) until they actually played them. (So we might want NOT to discuss the requirements openly
)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:05 PM
Yep, let's switch over to the private thread for epic discussion.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:32 PM
Hmmm, my 20 second challenge for the easy game was ticked off already, before the easy game ended, so I assume it was set up to register previous scores.
However, twice today I have gotten 10 in under 14 seconds. The difficult challenge, however, is still listed as incomplete. Perhaps it isn't set up to count previous hours? Should it be, since the medium is set that way as well?
I still cannot test the purchasing function until I get under 14 seconds again, it seems. :P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:33 PM
In the Easy game I got 10/10 in 18.29 seconds during the last hour but it has only given me credit for that in my Medium task not the Difficult one but it actually met the criteria for both.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:36 PM
Hmmm, interesting, Flopsy.
I would say that might be the case for mine as well, but I have met the requirements for the difficult one twice now. :P So if this was retroactive, I'd have gotten the medium one with my score of 10 in less than 11 seconds... When I got 13 seconds the next hour, that should have crossed off the difficult challenge.
I had thought Terry said it was not retroactive, so I did not expect them to be checked off. However, the medium one became retroactive during that time and was checked off, yet the difficult one was not.
Of course, it's not an issue for me, personally.... But I'd be curious to know what happened there.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:40 PM
I think I'd met it previously too but then Terry said he reset something so I did it again... still nothing. I guess we're affected by the same thing, Meathead.
I can't purchase anything until it's fixed either, lol.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:44 PM
errr try one more time, lol. Another bug fixed. Sheesh!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:50 PM
Still says my difficult is incomplete. Cannot purchase until this is checkmarked off. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:54 PM
yes, you will need to complete another hourly
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 01:56 PM
Better stick Literature on again or I'm done for, lol.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 02:02 PM
Aah, I see. I will have to wait until the next hour then. And yes, literature would be great.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 02:27 PM
Got 9/10 in 39 seconds, but my get 10/10 in 32 seconds challenge is marked as complete. Little bug.
Also, thanks for leaving me in the dark on the epics guys
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 02:28 PM
It's not just you, triviaking, it's me too. (And probably everyone except Terry and Wes.)
Mind if I bring a torch?
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 02:31 PM
You do whatever you want, flopsy. I'll just sit here wondering what evil things they could be up to
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 02:41 PM
Yes, as far as I can tell, the epic is being left in the dark for all but Terry and Wes. They went to their private discussion to discuss.... So even we can be excited about them.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 03:21 PM
The "spend credits to buy a new challenge" is working fine, I've done it three times now and got a new challenge each time, and at different levels of difficulty. It has also deducted the number of credits correctly.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 03:31 PM
Not to mention that the price for each is increasing correctly as it should. The first cost 9, then 12, now 15.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 03:50 PM
Now 18...
Although I'm not sure that's a good idea. Why would I buy a challenge costing 15 credits but only be able to earn 2 credits for completing it? I'm not an economist but I've got a feeling that isn't a sound investment...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 03:59 PM
It is meant that way, flopsy, so someone doesn't stash credits and buy dozens of challenges one day just because they can.
It's meant to be increasingly more difficult to purchase.
Though I was under the impression the jump was supposed to be more than 3 credits each time. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 04:02 PM
"Although I'm not sure that's a good idea. Why would I buy a challenge costing 15 credits but only be able to earn 2 credits for completing it? I'm not an economist but I've got a feeling that isn't a sound investment..."
Tomorrow it goes back to 9.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 04:10 PM
Buying is your only chance at epics (badgelets) and you also boost your progress towards the "get X from each difficulty" badges. Plus, you can't do much else with those credits anyway
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Aug 27 2012 04:19 PM
I could hoard them, Wesley, I could hoard. And, gloating, cackle like one of Macbeth's witches.
Or not.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 12:26 PM
Sigh, Terry is my twin today, and I am already 5,000 ahead. I have to go all the way to 10,000. :P That won't be happening anytime soon.
But, on the bright side, more testing of the purchase function shows me that it is indeed still working beautifully.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 02:30 PM
*facepalm*
I hit my 10,000, but I got 14 points too many. GAAAH.
I guess I cannot try any more challenges for the day; I was going to try and buy as many as I could to test. :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 02:37 PM
My chance to buy anything today was over with the very first play of today - missed the cut for Daily after hitting a set felt like 70% Celebrities.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 03:55 PM
Bought a new challenge after completing my original three:
"Score a total of 1192 points in today's The Daily Game - using the TIMED mode.
Played, but in casual mode. Try again tomorrow! Incomplete"
Too bad I played casual mode to complete the initial challenge:
"Score a total of 15 questions correct in today's The Daily Game - using any mode.
Complete"
Oh well, guess I only get to play those three today. Could there possibly be a system set up so that the challenges you buy don't contradict challenges you had to complete in order to buy the new challenge in the first place?
I don't really mind today because I only bought it to see what would happen (since I wasn't online yesterday to try, works fine and deduct the correct credits), and I'm done for today anyway, but I imagine a lot of people in the future might be upset if something similar happens to them. It seems sort of a waste of credits to not get the opportunity to play the new ones you buy.
Good to know Terry! I knew it was a good idea...
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 04:00 PM
Ugh, messed up Instaquiz with Quick Quiz and screwed up my twin challenge. I won't have time to get to 5000. Oh well. At least I got my other 2!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 05:41 PM
yep kaddar, such a system exists. It doesn't have all the exclusions in though, so i'll add that combo
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 08:30 PM
Ugh, messed up Instaquiz with Quick Quiz and screwed up my twin challenge. I won't have time to get to 5000. Oh well. At least I got my other 2!
You messed up twin? That doesn't bode well for me. Oh wait!
Posted by: Johnsnow
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 09:40 PM
Can someone explain to me what the "flags" and such are all about? Just got done with my 16 hour day consisting of 12 hours of work, with 4 hours of college classes before dinner. I don't see it in My Challenges. Maybe I have finally become immune to FT...
Posted by: looney_tunes
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 09:46 PM
These people are testing a new feature that has not yet been released. It sounds as if it will be exciting when we do all get our hands on it, and I am sure it will be easy to see.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 10:00 PM
Even the testers are not entirely sure about the flags yet.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 10:02 PM
It sounds as if it will be exciting when we do all get our hands on it, and I am sure it will be easy to see.
It sure will be! And thanks Kyle for getting those points for the twin challenge.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 10:03 PM
Even the testers are not entirely sure about the flags yet.
Very true.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 10:11 PM
Yeah. And Terry, I ran into the same problem. I bought a medium challenge for 12 and got a challenge for MM, which I already played and didn't get enough answers to complete it. It wanted 21 but I only got 19.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 10:16 PM
Maybe can we get an option of what type of challenge we want to buy? It would be like it is now, but you can choose what kind of challenge you'd want. So like when you're done with all of your challenges, it could say:
Spend 9 credits for a new Easy challenge
Spend 12 credits for a new Medium challenge
Spend 15 credits for a new Hard Challenge
Spend X credits for an EPIC challenge
What do you think? I think it would be a good addition.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 11:22 PM
"Yeah. And Terry, I ran into the same problem. I bought a medium challenge for 12 and got a challenge for MM, which I already played and didn't get enough answers to complete it. It wanted 21 but I only got 19."
Hmm did you buy it earlier today, or just now?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Aug 28 2012 11:25 PM
Oh, you mean you had already played the game -- not you had a similar challenge.
Yes, that is a risk when you buy a new challenge. It's quite possible it will be for a game that you have already played. Sometimes that will mean you get free completions if you scored well. Othertimes you get instant fail. It's a gamble.
Likewise, so is buying a challenge in the first place. You're not entirely sure what you're going to get. The idea is that epics will appear quite rarely, so that when they do it's special.
I like the random grab bag idea a whole lot more than being able to pick what you get. That's just boring to me.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 12:28 AM
"Slightly tricky... Score at least 390 points in one of today's Impossible! games in the Global Challenge.
Complete"
Meesa tinkin' disn bery easy. :-P
I mean, this is rather easy. Guessing on all but one question, I got 480. Maybe it should be a little higher?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:17 AM
It takes your average and determines your target from there although I agree that it might be a bit too low. I got a target in the high 500s lately in spite of having a better than 50% record of scoring with it in Hardcore (which is 870 or better)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 04:34 AM
Terry - is the game specifically looking for categories I play less often when assigning "play quizzes and get points/correct answers" style difficult challenges (which would be a nice touch) or am I just lucky to get such wide open playing fields :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 07:02 AM
If we want to use this as a badge, "Do ten challenges in a day" is definitely difficult but well balanced. It's one that you do need to stay on your toes for but not so much that it can't be done. I had a nice variety all through the diffiuclties (with the allegedly easy "Score 16/25 in a quiz about a movie you've never seen" being the major stumbling block) and am now on my 11th (which will be the last since the 12th would cost me 33, one more than I will have after completing #11).
Total cost of 126 credits (minus what you earn over the first six extras) is also at the right level to make the attempt special enough to save up for.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 07:03 AM
Yes, that is a risk when you buy a new challenge. It's quite possible it will be for a game that you have already played. Sometimes that will mean you get free completions if you scored well. Othertimes you get instant fail. It's a gamble.
Yeah, but it just annoyed me a little.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 09:54 AM
"If we want to use this as a badge, "Do ten challenges in a day" is definitely difficult but well balanced. "
I'm thinking of changing the restriction of "you can only buy a challenge when you have completed ALL your challenges" to "you can only buy a challenge when you have completed 3 challenges today".
Some of our challenges don't complete until the end of the day, which would be a little annoying if you were going for something like 10 in a day.
It also means if you get a particularly hard one you can't complete but had put aside say a day to play lots of challenges, you can keep on going generating new challenges as long as you have credits.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:14 AM
I'd change it to no more than one unfinished (whether one of the original 3 or any other). That way, you can't be blocked off by a single "end of day" round (and more than one should probably be excluded by the selection algorithm).
That way, you can't also be at a loss for a single bad score in your first 3 (as it happened to me yesterday, missed Daily by a few pts)
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:14 AM
Hmm, that makes more sense, Terry. For instance, I have a NEMESIS today, so I won't be able to buy any more. Actually, I won't even be able to buy with the new rule either. :P
But I like the new one better. If you are stuck with one you cannot complete for whatever reason, you can still buy another if you've done at least 3. Me likes.
I like Wes' idea a lot as well.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:22 AM
Hmm, that makes more sense, Terry. For instance, I have a NEMESIS today, so I won't be able to buy any more. Actually, I won't even be able to buy with the new rule either. :P
But I like the new one better. If you are stuck with one you cannot complete for whatever reason, you can still buy another if you've done at least 3. Me likes.
I like Wes' idea a lot as well.
It doesn't look like you have anyone to do Nemesis with either. That's a little odd.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:34 AM
next person to be assigned a difficulty 3 will match with salami nemesis
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:41 AM
Or I could keep it simple and remove the restriction entirely, meaning you always buy a new challenge if you have the credits.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:53 AM
Gave everyone 1000 credits to test challenge purchasing.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:54 AM
No, I want some sort of restrictions. I like that much better. Otherwise, you'd see people save up a TON, and buy a hundred challenges in hopes they get the badge easily with a ton of already-completed challenges. We can't make it too easy for them to win a badge.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 10:59 AM
What are we testing, exactly? Just buying as many as we can? Trying to win as many as possible?
It's all working; not that I'm actually winning anything.
I was testing just randomly buying as many as I can, not finished yet. I don't like that ability. I like the restrictions.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:02 AM
No, I want some sort of restrictions. I like that much better. Otherwise, you'd see people save up a TON, and buy a hundred challenges in hopes they get the badge easily with a ton of already-completed challenges. We can't make it too easy for them to win a badge.
It would still take a ton of time to save up enough credits to buy the challenges, and you would still have to complete them once you bought them. I don't know what the best way to restrict them would be if say someone got two challenges that required all day for final scores. They wouldn't be able to buy new challenges even if they had enough credits, if there was more than a complete-one-challenge-to-buy rule. None of the easy ones require all day, I don't think, so restricting it to complete A challenge might be fine.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:02 AM
I like some restrictions as well - either we're running with a limit for how many incompletes you can have (and 1 seems to be the best option here) or having incompletes severely increases the price you pay.
So in the latter case, instead of:
9 base
+6 per challenge bought today
we could go
8 base
+4 per challenge bought today
+8 per challenge not yet completed.
So you would be buying for 32 if you wanted to get one right away before doing any work
. Could also consider 8/5/6 instead of 8/4/8.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:06 AM
I've clicked the buy a new challenge button several times, but it will not allow me to purchase anymore than 5 challenges. It keeps deducting the credits anyway, but without any new challenges showing up in the list.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:08 AM
I think I'll go with Wes original idea of maximum of 1 incomplete.
If you get unlucky and are stuck with 2 day-long ones, well... tough
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:09 AM
click buy now, once kaddar
If no new ones appear, tell me what text it prints at the top of your screen
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:11 AM
I like that better, Terry.
And, I'll be stuck with about 10 incomplete today now.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:15 AM
click buy now, once kaddar
If no new ones appear, tell me what text it prints at the top of your screen
It allowed me to purchase a new one. Worked fine this time.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:36 AM
Litmus test worked - with three incompletes, it denied me the purchase and did not take any credits off my balance.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:43 AM
snap!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 11:54 AM
"It takes your average and determines your target from there although I agree that it might be a bit too low. I got a target in the high 500s lately in spite of having a better than 50% record of scoring with it in Hardcore (which is 870 or better)"
I just used simple random ranges for these ones to keep it simple. I've bumped up the average score for them 100 points each though which should make them marginally tougher.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 12:21 PM
The latest addition with the Movies-based scavenger is a bit awkward to play - it inevitably ends in detail questions about a pretty substantial number of movies one has never seen and has to research. Good for categories without specialized "have or have not seen/read" content, but for Movies, TV, Music and Lit, it should probably select a larger contingent from the mixed subcategories. (Maybe 50% from mixed and 50% from individual bands/movies/shows/books)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 12:33 PM
Better selection now?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 12:37 PM
Actually, I think I like the idea of niche knowledge for this challenge.
The difficulty is in asking players to take too many quizzes.
I think I'll put it back to how it was, but considerably lessen the # of quizzes you need out of the list.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:02 PM
Just as a curious thought...
When there is a list of quizzes that you have to "play x quizzes, getting x right each", I have noticed that it never has my quizzes in the list. I would assume this is because it registers that I'm salami_swami and does not give me any of my own quizzes.
However, perhaps it is just a coincidence I have yet to see any of my quizzes.
Just so I know, does it automatically know who I am and not give me any of my own quizzes to play? If this is just a coincidence, could there be a system so I never see my own quizzes on the list?
That is all.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:19 PM
I did a whole load of your quizzes the other day, be grateful!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:21 PM
I am grateful, Flopsy. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:36 PM
Yes. The system is like Big Brother. It knows which quizzes are yours, and it's always watching you.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:38 PM
Well now it sounds so creepy.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 01:41 PM
No no no! Not Big Brother! *goes to check date* Whew, not 1984. I think we're good
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Aug 29 2012 02:20 PM
I think the original quiz count was pretty good for most categories - the ones that cause problems were only Movies, TV and Lit and to some extent Humanities because they are really hit or miss things once you get to specific titles - either you have seen/read something or not. They are also very difficult to research when you don't have the knowledge.
I'll still stand by my idea that the best compromise would be to use a decent smattering of mixed in those categories. If I need 18/27 and I can play 12 mixed quizzes for those and then need to have seen/read 6 of the remaining 15, most players should come close to that or exceed it since most of the entries in these categories (of which you do obviously pick highly ranked ones) are relatively popular.
So my suggestion would still be for those four categories only to take 12 from mixed subcats and 15 from the specialized ones. (6 + 8 for medium). Then, playing 8 and 18 respectively is challenging and fun while still keeping the specialized titles in rotation and it scales best in comparison to the other categories. (The current Humanities mix you sent me for example looks too generic in comparison. SOME quizzes on specialized musicals and plays would be great in there, just not all of them!)
By the way - I do like the generic and category-specific scavengers to coexist. Both are different kinds of fun and if we can one day add the player-created ones to it (Wouldn't this be another nice way to make folks spend some credits
), we'd have loads of variety.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 30 2012 12:14 AM
"Hope you've got a cape on you... to complete this challenge you must end today as one of your team's heroes in the Team Hero game.
Incomplete"
This one from yesterday isn't updating. I was a hero, in fact, the highest scoring one. (Good thing about being on a small team.)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 30 2012 12:19 AM
Same issue here, finished second within my team.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 30 2012 04:36 AM
Whoa, interesting little issue. What I did was the following:
- Buy a new challenge
- Receive an Easy: "Play top rated quiz Barry Manilow's 'Copacabana' and score at least 1032 points in game mode".
- Click through the provided link to play.
- Play, pass and rate the quiz, choosing "where I came from" as my next destination.
...and now I receive "You cannot buy any more challenges right now: you have more than 1 incomplete challenge."
The system automatically tried to buy for me upon return which got blocked (since the quiz was not yet marked complete and I had another incomplete in "Win a Crystal Ball". If it hadn't been for this latter part, it would automatically have completed a purchase.
(Solution would be to do a redirect after a purchase so that the remembered URL for the "go back" would not contain the purchase)
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 30 2012 07:07 AM
I think the hero one has a bug, I didn't get it either and I think qualified.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 30 2012 09:27 AM
Heroes should be fixed.
Wesley: there's actually protection against accidental buy, so even if you saw that msg it wouldn't have gone through.
Still, I should remove the message so it doesnt confuse people.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Aug 30 2012 02:26 PM
Well it has to be fairly straightforward or my head will explode trying to make it and debug it.
System selects 5 quizzes that must be played and scored by either of the 2 players.
Player 1 gets info A
Player 2 gets info B
It is very difficult alone, and a lot easier with combined info.
Info A:
The quizzes you are searching for can be found in sub-categories X and Y.
Info B:
You need to score at least X correct on each quiz to get credit.
The required quizzes begin with the letters A,G,S,O,T.
One of the quizzes has been played XXX times. Another has been played YYY times.
You have completed the following quizzes as a team:
...
Or something like that
This was from page 10. Did we ever make a decision about this? It seemed like a fun idea.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 31 2012 08:42 AM
I don't think the program registered that I'm salami_swami, Terry.
One of my challenges today has me playing a certain number of humanities quizzes. One of my quizzes is featured.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 31 2012 08:45 AM
What is more, since it is my own quiz, I cannot play it. I tried to play it, and I did not get a green check. Also, it did not mark it with a red x. The quiz is virtually unplayable; so it might as well not even be on the list.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 31 2012 10:18 AM
Selection looks a bit skewed anyway - trying to avoid specific musicals yielded a very lopsided set. Maybe refining the algorithm manually by subcategory would yield best reuslts here, so instead of just trying to get 29 quizzes and avoiding certain over-specialized subjects, it could specifically be set up to create 30 quizzes in a nice variety:
- 3 quizzes from Art
- 5 from Mythology & Legends
- 1 from Performing Arts
- 5 from English / Vocabulary
- 1 from English / Idioms
- 1 from English / Etymology
- 1 from English / Spelling Bee
- 1 from English / Varieties
- 3 from Theatre / Musicals Mixture
- 2 from Theatre / Musicals A-G
- 2 from Theatre / Musicals H-N
- 2 from Theatre / Musicals O-Z
- 3 from any subcat not yet mentioned
and a similar list for the medium (15 quizzes)
We could similarly set this up for each other category. If you want me to, I'll run through the categories and do it for each one and put the results here for the other testers to look at. It will probably vastly pay off in terms of playability and fun - essentially doing the same thing that's being done for Pot of Gold.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 31 2012 10:57 AM
That sounds great, Wes. More varied would always be nice.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 31 2012 04:43 PM
Salami, easy to fix you getting your own quiz.
Unfortunately, it's not too easy to fix the distribution of quizzes selected to be like pot of gold due to the way categories work. It works in pot of gold because I do it once a day, and so running complicated or numerous queries isn't a big deal. But I need to be able to keep things efficient for this.
I can do it efficiently if we take quizzes only from a subset of all categories.
The easiest way to do it in one query is to do a random selection out of a subset of sub-categories. So select 20 quizzes from all those in vocabulary, spelling bee, etc. Just exclude specific categories (so only include musicals mixture).
If you'd like to put together such category lists for the problematic categories (tv,music, sports, movies, etc being the biggest problems), we can improve selection quickly. For the smaller categories like animals we can stick with category-wide. Try to keep the pool sizes relatively large though.
Just need a list of sub-category numbers for each. Note that if you wanted to include an entire branch, ALL sub-categories of that branch need to be listed.
Movies: x,y,z,...
You can actually create entirely new virtual toplevel categories too if you wanted to, mixing sub-categories from different top-level categories under new headings.
Canada : selection,of,subcategories,across,different,toplevel,cats
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Aug 31 2012 06:07 PM
Terry, can you do this in groups without queries getting out of hand? What would really be useful to balance things out would be to have an option to make certain categories appear in moderation without excluding them completely.
So e.g. Sports medium= 4(a,b,c,d), 3(e,f,g), 2(h,i,j,k,l), 6(m,n,o)
That way the player could be assured to get a nice mix of several things.
Also, is there a way you can automatically (just as a quick and dirty UI for setup) expand subcats? Some of them are extremely fragmented - I just looked at mythology which consists of 54 entries. Getting all those manually from the site is not only lengthy but also error-prone - a simple entry that returns the expanded string for placing in a document would do miracles.
*** Actually, no need for you to spend time coding such a thing, just send me a table dump of the individual parent-child relations (category X is child of Y) and I'll quickly whip up a PERL to do the actual expander myself. Testers who wish to help setting up virtuals could then run it off my server.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 01 2012 12:09 AM
Today I have a set of 27 quizzes of which I have to play 20, scoring 7 or more correct. I have played 2 of them within the last month, so I won't be able to play those quizzes to complete today's challenge. If there were a larger pool of quizzes to chose from I wouldn't say this was a problem, but it now means that I only have 5 spare quizzes instead of 7 with which to complete the challenge. I know salami mentioned getting your own quizzes in a list as being a problem because it makes your pool smaller. Is there something that can be done about quizzes you've played in the last 30 days that can be built into the system as well, so that all the quizzes listed for the challenge are eligible for the checkmark?
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 01 2012 11:15 AM
What does this challenge mean?
Play quiz Still More World Cities and score at least 286 points in game mode.
Haven't played yet. Incomplete
It's a 10 qn quiz and 15 pts per question (150 pts). Maybe I'm missing something but this doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 01 2012 12:00 PM
Game mode - that's the timed Flash mode ("Play Quiz Game") for the quiz.
You get 100 points for an answer, minus time, just like in an hourly. Those points will at the end be divided by six to give your FT points, so 900 game points (10 correct, taking 10 seconds per question) gets you the normal 150 FT points. 286 thus is pretty much four correct.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 01 2012 02:46 PM
*face palm* I COMPLETELY forgot about that mode because I'm playing on an iDevice. It doesn't support flash. I'll do it when I get home.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 01 2012 07:44 PM
I bought a challenge that said to get 10/10 in the easy game in under 32 seconds. Last hour I got 10/10 in under 32 seconds and I didnt get credit. I think it was 27 seconds. The category was music. I really want to buy another!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 02 2012 07:50 AM
You sure triviaking? It shows as being complete
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 02 2012 10:04 AM
Yeah, Terry. I did another one an hour or two later that met the challenge requirements. So it didn't matter. I just didn't report it when I finished.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 02 2012 08:48 PM
"You've found a box of old photographs. Score at least 8 answers correct in 4 of the following photo quizzes."
There's no mention in this task of "You may retake quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days". Is that not important to add with picture quizzes.
It also doesn't look like it is set up this way as I retook a quiz I took two weeks ago and got credit for it. I wanted to check to see if it was counted or not, and it was, so I'm just wondering if it is actually supposed to be, or not?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 02 2012 09:02 PM
Also, what's my average time for a 10/10 in the Easy Game? 29 seconds seems a bit beyond my reach.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 02 2012 10:30 PM
Completed 17 challenges today. I think that's enough for me. Getting late and time for bed. 2 left incomplete (I do not have the time to spend on the Buzzy Bee, plus I already have the associated badge). Everything worked fine, except maybe the photo quiz one (see previous post). Goodnight all.
Posted by: JanIQ
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 11:57 AM
Well, you guys are really helping out Terry ! Thank you for spending so much effort in testing those terrific new challenges !!!
Posted by: shuehorn
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 02:51 PM
I agree with JanIQ's comment. What a great service you're doing for all of us!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 02:58 PM
We'll send the collection plate round later.
I can't speak for the others but I've had fun doing it. Got a bit tied up the past couple of days and haven't finished everything but tomorrow is another day...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 04:24 PM
Ill be back to work on it tomorrow. Got a big live fantasy football draft this aft
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 04:29 PM
It's been a blast! I've had so much fun!
And Terry, big fantasy football tip. Get Arian Foster
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 08:20 PM
I agree with triviaking and flopsymopsy. It has been great testing out this new feature. You all are in for something great when it gets released to everyone!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 10:22 PM
Agreed. And, like Flopsy, I haven't doon much the last couple of days. Holidays and whatnot. Back tomorrow to regular schedule.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 03 2012 10:47 PM
I agree, and haven't done much because of work, researching a certain animal, and having just discovered Need For Speed. :-P But I haven't been playing, oh no, definitely not.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 05:40 AM
LOL, you've got to be kidding, Terry. My "difficult" challenge for today is not completely impossible but if you only knew how much hair I tore out achieving that target the first time round you wouldn't ask me to do it again!
I'm not saying what it is to protect innocent, non-testing, normal people who might steal a look in here.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 06:17 AM
Flopsy, I did that one once, and it was complete luck. I didn't even read.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 08:38 AM
Yeah, that one's definitely coming up way too often, especially since it also interferes with some players' long-term goals (ELO). Terry, any chance to reduce the frequency of this particular challenge to about a quarter of what it is now?
By the way, the variants of "Play GC Impossible and score..." also seem to be very frequent. Maybe knock those down a bit as well.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 09:05 AM
Yeah, that one's definitely coming up way too often, especially since it also interferes with some players' long-term goals (ELO). Terry, any chance to reduce the frequency of this particular challenge to about a quarter of what it is now?
By the way, the variants of "Play GC Impossible and score..." also seem to be very frequent. Maybe knock those down a bit as well.
Yeah, I have one of those GC Impossible challenges today.
Just flicked through our challenge pages...three people have flopsy's Difficult challenge. That is definitely a lot.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 11:02 AM
Back after a good labor day weekend. Will have to catch up on these messages and get back to adding stuff.
The play GC should be no more probable than anything else... it's entirely randomized with everything else... strange. Will have to check the randomize function.
Im thinking I should remove the "score 0" challenge altogether. We can keep it as a badgelet, but I dont think it's that fun to keep it in there as a daily challenge.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 11:07 AM
How about to turn it around and make it a mini Obscure Researcher. Score 12 or better in 300 secs.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 11:19 AM
I like Wesley's idea... Getting 12/15 is much more doable on any given day and it's probably more satisfying as a challenge - I actually got the 0 badgelet very soon after it was launched but some people found it very frustrating and took days (and days!) over it. Probably better within the scope of this challenge to set more achievable targets - don't want to drive them away out of sheer frustration, lol.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:09 PM
Changed to 12/15. It drops down to 280 seconds for you super high levs
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:12 PM
Removed the difficult version of Impossible!, so there are only 2 challenges of that type in there now.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:13 PM
"I bought a challenge that said to get 10/10 in the easy game in under 32 seconds. Last hour I got 10/10 in under 32 seconds and I didnt get credit. I think it was 27 seconds. The category was music. I really want to buy another!"
Triviaking -- do you remember if this was easy / medium / difficult? I'd like to reassign that to everyone to test it out.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:16 PM
"You've found a box of old photographs. Score at least 8 answers correct in 4 of the following photo quizzes."
There's no mention in this task of "You may retake quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days". Is that not important to add with picture quizzes.
It also doesn't look like it is set up this way as I retook a quiz I took two weeks ago and got credit for it. I wanted to check to see if it was counted or not, and it was, so I'm just wondering if it is actually supposed to be, or not?
In any "list of quizzes" challenge, the number of days since last play is ignored.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:20 PM
What is more, since it is my own quiz, I cannot play it. I tried to play it, and I did not get a green check. Also, it did not mark it with a red x. The quiz is virtually unplayable; so it might as well not even be on the list.
Fixed. This will no longer give your own quizzes.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:22 PM
Today I have a set of 27 quizzes of which I have to play 20, scoring 7 or more correct. I have played 2 of them within the last month, so I won't be able to play those quizzes to complete today's challenge. If there were a larger pool of quizzes to chose from I wouldn't say this was a problem, but it now means that I only have 5 spare quizzes instead of 7 with which to complete the challenge. I know salami mentioned getting your own quizzes in a list as being a problem because it makes your pool smaller. Is there something that can be done about quizzes you've played in the last 30 days that can be built into the system as well, so that all the quizzes listed for the challenge are eligible for the checkmark?
No. If you are given a list of quizzes, you are eligible to play them and score them for the challenge. What happens is that when the system chooses your 20 quizzes, it deletes any short-term record of you having played them.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:25 PM
No. If you are given a list of quizzes, you are eligible to play them and score them for the challenge. What happens is that when the system chooses your 20 quizzes, it deletes any short-term record of you having played them.
Okay. I didn't actually have time to play any of them that day. I'd just noticed that I'd played some in the recent past, and wasn't sure why they'd shown up in the list. Thanks for clarifying.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:28 PM
Changed to 12/15. It drops down to 280 seconds for you super high levs
Gee thanks, you're so thoughtful.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:34 PM
12/280 challenge works for me. (As in, took it, passed and it scores). (Also as in, looks great).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:38 PM
I just got credit for 12 or better in 300 seconds with a score of 2. That's not right. The best I have done today is 7/15.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 12:40 PM
Oops fixed!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 01:26 PM
I just bought a challenge I'd already completed earlier. It's a challenge relating to a game I've always hated but was made to attempt when I first started doing the testing... since when I've been doing quite well. So thanks for the shove.
By my calculation I need about another 2-3 weeks to get the next badge so if you wouldn't mind keeping this challenge in testing mode for that long - only I don't want to get killed in the rush.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 01:52 PM
Terry, if you can send me the table dump for the categories (just parent;child;name in an ASCII file), I can start on tuning the category scavengers in earnest. Three groups (separate category lists for each scavenger, e.g. "Take 6 specific Musicals, 12 English and 12 of everything else" in Humanities) should do fine to get a balanced, interesting subset with a good mix of specialized and general out of most categories, a few might require 4 or 5 to do really well but if query count is a problem I can do with 3 for those at a slight quality loss as well. Single lists don't yield really good results for most places, even those that don't have the "specialization " problem, due to the predominance of some topics. For example, an unsegmented Religion set would be almost 90% Bible/Christian, but I'd set the target for a well rounded scavenger closer to 60-70% to add variety. (I did most of the analysis for the critical ones already, so the work is really translating them out into category lists)
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 04 2012 02:00 PM
"I bought a challenge that said to get 10/10 in the easy game in under 32 seconds. Last hour I got 10/10 in under 32 seconds and I didnt get credit. I think it was 27 seconds. The category was music. I really want to buy another!"
Triviaking -- do you remember if this was easy / medium / difficult? I'd like to reassign that to everyone to test it out.
Medium, I believe.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 09:26 AM
I keep getting "Time to be creative! Come up with X trivia questions to add to our pool, in X different categories." as one of my challenges, but I don't see many of the other testers getting them (don't recall seeing any actually). This is the 4th are 5th time I've gotten it. Is this unusual or am I just missing when other people are issued the challenge?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 09:29 AM
I have gotten that a few times as well, Kaddarsgirl. Not 4 or 5 times, perhaps 2 or 3.
I probably won't be completing many challenges today. One is to win a round of fill me in. In my division, that's near impossible. :P There are a few players who keep that game tricky.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:46 AM
Assigned "easy 10/10" challenge to everyone to test for a bug.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 11:01 AM
Yay, my favorite challenge!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 11:07 AM
"Play quizzes containing a total of 3 U's somewhere in their title. Score at least 5 correct in each. You may replay quizzes you played over 30 days ago."
This wording is a little confusing. I first read it as I could replay quizzes I have played within the past 30 days.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 11:16 AM
Clearer now?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 11:19 AM
Yes, that's much better.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 12:34 PM
The easy game one seems to work. I just got 10 in 10.97 seconds and it registered as complete immediately.
And I like the new expert one.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 12:37 PM
I can't even random click that fast! Holy crap, salami!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 12:49 PM
The "just take some quizzes" scavenger could probably benefit from some magic category duplication checking - I got 9 Movies, 2 Hobbies, one Music and one Brain Teaser in my 13.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 12:52 PM
My record, kaddars, is 9.32 seconds. And the record record I've seen is 8.27.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 12:55 PM
That's so incredible.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:06 PM
"Play in the Easy or Hard hourly game where the topic is Sports and score at least 691 points. "
Definitely not one you want in your purchased challenges! I love the evilness however.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:09 PM
Mine is Geography and score 592. How often do these categories show up in a day? Is it a guarantee of multiple chances to play or is it a one-shot deal? I don't usually play Smartest or Cake games so I don't know how it works.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:13 PM
I don't think there are any guarantees, much less any for you being at a computer and ready to play when it comes up. We need an alert feature for categories coming up...
Also:
Play 5 quizzes containing 3 letter U's in each of their titles. Score at least 5 correct in each.
Should this possibly require different categories? When I found one, I immediately found 4... (think Geography, South America)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:16 PM
Uruguay quizzes perhaps, Wes?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:17 PM
Hmm different categories is a good idea. Will change.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:17 PM
I don't think there are any guarantees, much less any for you being at a computer and ready to play when it comes up. We need an alert feature for categories coming up...
Perhaps it could be set up with 2 categories to choose from. Like "Play in the Easy or Hard hourly game where the topic is Sports or Literature and score at least X points." ?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:19 PM
Also, any chance of a "See the Future" perk to be added to Easy and Hard? It would revive the level perks table a bit and hugely help with that new challenge...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:22 PM
Done. Different sub-categories required.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:24 PM
"Perhaps it could be set up with 2 categories to choose from. Like "Play in the Easy or Hard hourly game where the topic is Sports or Literature and score at least X points." ?"
I think it's fine as it is, without perks, etc. We have many difficult challenges far harder than that one imo. Yes, this one requires a little luck, a little patience, and a little skill all at the same time. I like it
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:34 PM
The question is how does a player feel who has to wait it out for possibly several hours while unable to buy a new one because of it? It's a challenge you simply can't start playing if things do go wrong - a potential source for frustration. Every other one gives you at least one try before you have to wait.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:38 PM
I like the idea of having to be a specific category. Between the two games, it is common enough to get any category asked for. I like it.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:42 PM
I like that part as well. What I don't really like is
Check homepage
See wrong categories
Wait 29 minutes
Check homepage
See wrong category
Wait 29 minutes
[...]
Every one of these feels like a little failure (you can't play). This is why I suggested the see the future perk - you can KNOW when to come back instead of sitting through these small disappointments.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:44 PM
"The question is how does a player feel who has to wait it out for possibly several hours while unable to buy a new one because of it? It's a challenge you simply can't start playing if things do go wrong - a potential source for frustration. Every other one gives you at least one try before you have to wait."
Some days you're just not going to be able to buy challenges. There's always tomorrow
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:45 PM
I got lucky. Mine was humanities and when I went to the easy game, it was humanities! I guess it was just dumb luck
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:52 PM
Does it score backwards - i.e. can you play Easy and Hard all through the day trying for as many categories as possible and get the score if it should come up later in a run?
That would obviously minimize the impact on a player who's on a roll. (Which is what I am most concerned about - if you get it first thing in a day, you can always mark it off as "not my day" if you don't hit early)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 01:59 PM
Yes.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 02:02 PM
Then it's playable - there's the obvious way around it if you want to spend a day getting rid of all those credits in the hopes of an epic. Rewards preparedness
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 02:08 PM
How are the epics going to work? You have to buy them I'm assuming, but is it just luck whether you get one, like not knowing whether the next challenge is going to be easy/med/hard?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 02:09 PM
yep. a small chance of getting one, which is half the battle.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 02:13 PM
I had hobbies, which was already complete for me in both games.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 05:40 PM
Ok Im going to add one more round of challenges tomorrow. A few of your comments in the last week or so has been on the repetition of some of the challenges. The way to stop that is to add more challenges
I'm starting to run out of ideas, so if you've got any ideas for challenges, spit em out, and if I both like them and they're technically straightforward I'll add em.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 05:57 PM
I think I'm tapped out for ideas except on the epics
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 06:04 PM
Well it has to be fairly straightforward or my head will explode trying to make it and debug it.
System selects 5 quizzes that must be played and scored by either of the 2 players.
Player 1 gets info A
Player 2 gets info B
It is very difficult alone, and a lot easier with combined info.
Info A:
The quizzes you are searching for can be found in sub-categories X and Y.
Info B:
You need to score at least X correct on each quiz to get credit.
The required quizzes begin with the letters A,G,S,O,T.
One of the quizzes has been played XXX times. Another has been played YYY times.
You have completed the following quizzes as a team:
...
Or something like that
How about this? It was from pg. 10.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:17 PM
I still like that, but Im a little concerned that the first time or two it's kind of fun, but after it comes around more than a few times it will likely get old. I think we need to keep in mind that some people will play these daily challenges for YEARS.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:31 PM
How about a "7 Days of the Week" Challenge, where you have to find and play 7 quizzes, each with a different day of the week in title? I know there are quizzes for each day because I just found them all. Could do "12 Months of the Year" or "Decades" variations as well.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:14 PM
Nioe idea, but same issue as above. The 6th time you get that challenge and you start throwing things at your monitor.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:29 PM
Nioe idea, but same issue as above. The 6th time you get that challenge and you start throwing things at your monitor.
But isn't that the case with ALL challenges after a while? :-P
Anyway, how about enter five-ten words yourself and the system picks one, and you find a quiz/quizzes with that word. That way, it'll be a word that the players wants themselves. Unless that's too difficult to set up.
(Sorry, my oops - accidentally hit Edit instead of reply. Original post restored. Wes)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 06:36 AM
I think if it was gonna happen the system should pick the words, otherwise you could have people entering the same word over and over or typing in words like "and" and "or" and "is" too get an easier set to find quizzes in.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 06:44 AM
True, it may be possible to add a something to prevent people from doing that, but then again, I know nothing of such things, and have no idea if it's easy to do or not, so...
Well, then, disregard what I said, lol.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 08:03 AM
What about a second look at this one from page 9, the ALLY Challenge?
"What about something where both scores add up to equal something else, or equal AT LEAST something else (which would be a higher number than the equal match one)? So say, a goal like 10,000pts. It could be 200, 9800; or 3000, 7000; or 5000, 5000; or any other combination that adds up to the goal number, which could be anything (based on recent daily scores for both players or something)."
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 09:12 AM
Anyway, how about enter five-ten words yourself and the system picks one, and you find a quiz/quizzes with that word. That way, it'll be a word that the players wants themselves. Unless that's too difficult to set up.
Maybe this could be made to work as follows:
"Execute a quiz search using this box |___________| |SEARCH| that yields between 20 and 30 results. Then play 15 of the resulting entries, scoring X or better each. (Your first matching entry will determine the list to play from)."
This obviously requires a slight modification to the search code (having an extra place to submit from and reporting the search term and result count back to the challenge as well), but it might just be feasible and it avoids the frequent words issue.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 09:54 AM
While they are all interesting ideas, it looks like we're all sort of scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to come up with stuff.
Time to really start on the epics I think.
I also need to work out how precisely to structure gold member vs regular member stuff. I considered giving non-GMs 2 challenges/day and GMs 3 challenges/day, but perhaps it might be better to give everyone 3, and add a perk for GMs.
I was thinking perhaps "challenge mulligan", where once per week gold members may discard any incomplete challenge and have a new one generated in its place.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 10:37 AM
The GM perk is obviously also greater variety in challenge choice - a non-GM will see more repeats than a GM.
Maybe a GM perk could also be a slightly reduced purchase cost for extras. Keep the 9/+3 for regular, but maybe 8/+2 for GMs? That way they can do just a bit more without affecting the basic three. This is actually less of a bonus than it might sound - a GM could buy 7 challenges on a day for 98 where regular would get 6 for 99.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 10:56 AM
Hmmm, I like that small perk, Wes.
Is there a challenge based on the Gold Madness game? I don't recall seeing one...
Or "earn a vowel in the Gold Member Word Wizard mini-game".
A few could be made for obtaining certain scores in Pot of Gold.
Level perks could make good challenges on some days. Play the Point Tree. Use your mulligan. Choose an expert topic. Play your level challenge crossword. Etc.
Score a certain amount of points in the point tree game... Which might be tricky since, depending on the "easiness" of the categories, your score varies. 15 in 50 gets much different scores depending on the week's chosen cats.
Play 25 or more hourlies today. (number can vary depending on difficulty level)
At the end of a Global Challenge, have your ranking increase (eh, I'm not too fond of it, but I'm trying to think outside the box now. :P)
Score 10 correct in x seconds the easy game three hours in a row (can be tough, depending on the categories). Other games can be included as well.
Hmmm, I think I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 11:01 AM
I like Terry's challenge mulligan... it's an interesting twist and it would be a real benefit to GMs. The Amazing Race challenge left people stuck in the same place for ages and judging from the chatboards some of them got really frustrated - at least with a mulligan, GM's frustration would be limited to a week.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 11:06 AM
Uhm, you would never be stuck on anything more than a day since challenges reset once per day. It would just be a way to get rid of something you really don't want to play if a challenge type comes up you don't like or that you badly missed (e.g. one based on a daily score when you scored too low).
I like both of these perks - they're small enough to not be unbalancing but overall make the game flow just a little bit more intensely.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 11:23 AM
Ah I was assuming from the conversation about that secret thing we're not allowed to know about yet that there might be a longer delay... but as I don't know how that's going to work, I'll shut up now.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 05:13 PM
Would someone please purchase a challenge if you get the chance. I need a NEMESIS partner.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 05:30 PM
Actually, for testing, it would be great if no one did. That way, we can see if it correctly marks you as winner tomorrow morning.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 05:45 PM
That works too I guess.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 06 2012 08:41 PM
Or not. I just purchased a challenge and got Nemesis with kad.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 08:24 AM
Guess I won't be buying any challenges today. Oh well.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 08:32 AM
Yep, I saw that. You got a day off
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 08:37 AM
Haha, true that.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 09:08 AM
Type: TAILOR_TO_USER...
DIDS may be interested in:
Never seen this before, popped up earlier when the system was finding quizzes, apparently decided that I not only know the insides and outs of Hogwarts and Twilight, but remember the 80s well. Just curious, how does it decide what someone knows/likes?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 11:23 AM
You probably played some quizzes in the past (considering you're here), so it may have some good idea of what you prefer.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 04:58 PM
Will have to wait til next week unfortunately. I've spent most of the day tracing down some really weird bugs that appear not to be my fault! The worst type, since they can't be readily fixed. Gr.
Posted by: cubswin2323
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 10:28 PM
I'm just inquiring how close is the new game to coming online? Is it going to be an on-going game, or is it going to be something you do daily until you reach the finish?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 07 2012 10:47 PM
I'm just inquiring how close is the new game to coming online? Is it going to be an on-going game, or is it going to be something you do daily until you reach the finish?
I don't know about your first question, but it is definitely an on-going game.
Note Terry's comment from the previous page (Pg 19):
I think we need to keep in mind that some people will play these daily challenges for YEARS.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 08 2012 03:54 AM
Like with all games, there is something resembling a finish in the badges planned, but getting all of them will keep you busy for many months and possibly years and you can of course continue playing even after reaching them. Plus, we might always add more goals - the system is extremely flexible.
There will also likely be ranking lists to keep the game competitive beyond the badge thresholds.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 09 2012 09:12 AM
As to when, hopefully within the next couple of weeks. It has been a little slower than I had hoped because I've also been dealing with some other unrelated irritating and time consuming technical issues.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 09 2012 11:11 AM
I returned from the Paralympics to find that I didn't miss anything - I'm not sure whether I should be pleased that I don't have to feel guilty or annoyed that my playing hookey didn't get noticed, lol.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 09 2012 02:44 PM
I returned from the Paralympics to find that I didn't miss anything - I'm not sure whether I should be pleased that I don't have to feel guilty or annoyed that my playing hookey didn't get noticed, lol.
You were missed! It's been pretty slow though lately, in general, and the weekend wasn't much help.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:05 PM
Ok... now to add the GM perk
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:18 PM
Be careful with the side effects of that one - switching out a Twin or Nemesis needs to be dealt with. I'll test that one when you have the perk ready (Luckily I do have a Nemesis around)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:24 PM
I'm going to disallow switching out of those two just for simplicity sake, and to avoid completely confusing the partner.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:26 PM
That's good; especially for the partner.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:39 PM
Does the GM perk give you a choice of what to swap or does it randomly pick? Also, like the New Challenge button, do you have to have a certain complete to use it or can it be used at any time?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:45 PM
Looks to me like you get to choose.
That will come in very convenient for those trying to get their 10 in a day for a badge. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 01:50 PM
You choose what disappears, but not what appears in its place.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 02:43 PM
Switch out added. I have removed the check that only allows 1 switch, so right now you can switch as much as you want to test it.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 02:44 PM
Oh, alright. I was just about to pop in to say it looks to work well, except that it let me switch it out twice. :P
But, since you did that intentionally, it looks good.
Haha.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 02:47 PM
I just switched one challenge, and it worked perfectly. I then did the challenge and it recorded the result correctly. So far so good!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 02:54 PM
Worked the same way for me both times.
I have one challenge available, but I don't want to switch it out. It's one I can do. :P
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 03:25 PM
I have the challenge "find a quiz that starts with the letter E and score at least 3 correct". I played a quiz called "Edward Scissorhands" something... Technically, the first "letter" is ". Is it intended not to count because of the ", or is that a bug and it should count as beginning with E?
Just curious.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 03:32 PM
I've traded the challenge out about umpteen zillion times, and it all appears to be working smoothly, Terry.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 03:43 PM
Has the nemesis or twin been tested for if someone has it and no one else gets it yet? To make sure it marks it as complete?
I have nemesis with no partner so, assuming no one else buys challenges or trades and gets it, we can see how it turns out. :P
And, testing was a success. It did NOT allow me to switch out the Nemesis challenge, even though I have no Nemesis Partner.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 04:00 PM
I also tested a cheat attempt - have the switchout open in one window, complete a challenge in another and then try to switch the just completed one. Attempt successfully blocked. Nice
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 04:02 PM
lol, we think of everything to test, don't we, Wes?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 04:04 PM
Yep... that's why it's called testing
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 04:57 PM
Has the nemesis or twin been tested for if someone has it and no one else gets it yet? To make sure it marks it as complete?
I have nemesis with no partner so, assuming no one else buys challenges or trades and gets it, we can see how it turns out.
I don't think that's been tested yet. I tried a few days ago, but Mariamir bought a new challenge, so it didn't work out.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 05:20 PM
I just switched out a challenge, got a new one, switched that out, got a new one, switched that out... and got one for which I'd already met the requirements, which was recorded correctly so I haven't been able to break it yet either.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 05:28 PM
I just switched out a challenge, got a new one, switched that out, got a new one, switched that out... and got one for which I'd already met the requirements, which was recorded correctly so I haven't been able to break it yet either.
I just did the same. It correctly recorded my morning Impossible! score giving me credit as it should have. It also correctly record the completion of a replacement challenge after the fact.
Edit: It works fine replacing bought challenges too.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 05:30 PM
Tomorrow I'll start adding the basic badges.
Mini for complete 2 easy, medium, difficult ?
Full badges for 20/20/20 and 200/200/200 ?
Open to thoughts on the numbers.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 05:35 PM
I think the number for the mini can be increased a bit, maybe to 4 or 5 apiece, so it takes more than a day (with buying) or 2 (without) to get it.
The other two look fine to me.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 05:40 PM
I keep seeing code-like stuff on the replace challenge screen after I make a swap. It happens every time I switch one out.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 06:05 PM
I think 10 total (any difficulty) for Topaz mini, 20x3 for Emerald full and 200x3 for Ruby Full sounds good. Add to that the Epic collector (level-based full - 75th or 125th) and the 10 in one day (Sapphire mini) and we have ourselves a good lineup.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 06:15 PM
Yes, I think those numbers look great!
Megabadge of 2,000?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 06:22 PM
Someday that badge may come. I'm avoiding to suggest megas until we're sure the game is well accepted and still fun after 200 days. (Not that I doubt it with this one, but can't be too careful)
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 06:29 PM
Wes's numbers look good to me. Ten for the mini is still an easy target, but gets people used to ongoing nature of the challenge and the other targets are achievable. I do think there could be something even longer term though - if you want to keep the regular badge-hunters happy, give them another large target to go for, whether you call that a megabadge or not.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 06:32 PM
Same here, good numbers.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 07:12 PM
Wes's numbers look good to me. Ten for the mini is still an easy target, but gets people used to ongoing nature of the challenge and the other targets are achievable. I do think there could be something even longer term though - if you want to keep the regular badge-hunters happy, give them another large target to go for, whether you call that a megabadge or not.
I agree with this.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:05 PM
Oh __________! After switching out two challenges, I can't switch more? And now if I can't, I've just messed up testing for Nemesis, AGAIN! So sorry.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:07 PM
Oh __________! After switching out two challenges, I can't switch more? And now if I can't, I've just messed up testing for Nemesis, AGAIN! So sorry.
You should be able to swap out as many incomplete challenges as you want right now. You can't swap out Twin or Nemesis though once you get it...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:10 PM
I know...okay, going to keep the rest of what I'm thinking to myself. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:11 PM
I can buy another challenge or so, and see if I can get Nemesis without a partner. I've got some time, and swaps should make it easier...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:24 PM
Bought a new challenge I'd never seen before:
"Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."
I like it!! And with my "I See All!" today, it was already completed!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:31 PM
Okay, I have Nemesis alone. So don't buy another one or swap please. I also have Twin, so apparently it is possible to get both...interesting! As they are both solos this time, barring any unexpected buys or swaps, it should test both, yes?
With all that buying and switching I went from 4 complete to 11 (12) in about 10 mins
Retroactive feature works well. I'm still getting a purple box sometimes though when swapping challenges, and sometimes it's just words thats appear, that I don't think are supposed to be there...
Edit: Also wanted to note that, while buying and swapping challenges, the distribution of new Easy/Med/Dif seemed good and there was a LOT of variety in the new challenges it generated for me. I did get some repeats at the Difficult level, but I don't think that's going to make any impact on actual gameplay since in reality only 1 swap per week is allowed...not 30+ in 5 mins
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 10 2012 09:33 PM
Whew, thanks! Happy with this challenge, anyhow.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 12:08 AM
Thanks for testing. Shutting down unlimited switches now
Agree with Wesley's thoughts above.
Is 10 in one day too tough though?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 12:08 AM
"Today you have been given the Twin Challenge! Your goal is to match the total points earned today of a specific player who also has been issued this challenge. If either of you returns to this page while your total points earned today values differ by exactly 0, 2500, 5000, or 10000 points, you will both complete this challenge. At least one of the twins must have scored 500 points. Your twin for today is unassigned right now. Please try back later when more players are given this challenge so we can pair you up.
No twin assigned yet. Complete"
Both TWIN and NEMESIS gave me "Complete"s when the day switched over.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 12:11 AM
Yes
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 12:12 AM
Thanks for testing. Shutting down unlimited switches now
Agree with Wesley's thoughts above.
Is 10 in one day too tough though?
I did 10 in one day a week or so ago. It is definitely doable. It will take some building up of credits though, so it won't be able to be attempted for the first several weeks. Something to look forward to and to hoard credits for.
I figure, if you get all 6 credits each day, without spending any, that it will take 21 days to save up enough credits to purchase the 7 necessary to make 10 challenges available to play, assuming you can complete them all. It's not impossible, but it's certainly a challenge to get 10 that you can complete. I think the real challenge though, would be having the patience to save up the credits you'd need to play for it (I calculate 126 needed to buy 7 challenges on 1 day, but someone else should probably check my math).
Saving up for the right day though, and hoping for a bit of challenge luck, I think, will make 10 in 1 day feel like a big accomplishment (which is always a good feeling
)....like completing "The Riddle" was for me.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 12:16 AM
Swap let me change my Difficult challenge and then the button disappeared. So I guess that means it worked like it is supposed to work.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 12:30 AM
Yes, same happened to me.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 08:47 AM
Yes, Terry, 10 seems like a good number. I think any less is too easy.
I'd be in favor of more, but I think the average FT populous would not like me. :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 10:06 AM
10 seems to be a nice round number for this one. If it were a "grand prize" award, I'd put it closer to 15, but it's supposed to be something you earn along the way, also as a consolation prize for a day unsuccessfully spent with many purchases aimed at getting an epic but suffering from bad luck.
The grand prize on this is supposed to be the "8 flags" badge, which should feel at least as good and possibly superior to the highly esteemed 7-color rainbow from Pot of Gold.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 10:40 AM
8? I struggle enough with the seven for pot of gold. :P Sounds awesome though.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 02:38 PM
...and sometimes testing challenges yields valuable results that are not related to challenges at all:
I tried to play
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/SciTech/The-Joy-of-HTML-224573.html in game mode to do my difficult challenge for today (4 categories, X points in game mode each) and the display was rather interesting. Everything after a < sign was summarily suppressed, which resulted in a few sets of blank answer buttons and cut-off questions.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 02:50 PM
I had a correction note about that once, someone thought information in my quiz was missing. Didn't realize this was the reason. Thought it was a browser problem. :-P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 03:06 PM
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 04:12 PM
No, just accidentally copied the wrong link (I had played several from the subcat).
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/SciTech/Basic-HTML-Knowledge-325356.html is the one I had the issues with.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 05:11 PM
LOL, there used to be a television quiz show over here called "Blankety Blank" - that quiz reminded me of it. I managed to get one of the blank questions right but the others eluded me.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 11 2012 05:40 PM
Thanks, fixed. It was getting mad at the "<" symbols in the quiz.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 12:21 AM
"Play in an hourly game of Word Wizard and score at least 956 points."
I know this is an Easy challenge, but considering I got 1436, could this be a little more?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 08:13 AM
Like you said, Mariamir, it's an easy challenge... 956 isn't too terribly easy for everyone.
Posted by: JanIQ
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:27 AM
I had the impression the challenges to obtain a certain number of points in a certain game would be determined in function of an average over the past weeks.
So for instance if you would score on average 1300 over a month time, the easy challenge would have a goal of, say, 1200.
Is this already implemented by Terry? Or he might have disabled it for some testing reasons.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:34 AM
I believe a system like that is basically in system, but it isn't the most accurate. That gets very complicated after a while.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 12:35 PM
Yeah something like what JanIQ says. If it doesn't have enough data on you, it guesses.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 01:01 PM
For testing purposes, I'll be assigning epics to all testers.
Although it will be no huge or important secret, please keep the precise requirements vague for now. I like the idea of epics being a little bit of a mystery to most players... adds to the feeling of them
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 01:27 PM
OOOOOHHH I am so excited to play the epics!
The way things are going today, though, I most likely do not have a chance of completing either today...
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 01:53 PM
Epic indeed! My lips are sealed.
Although I did once have a sign in my office which read:
Bribery and CorruptionThere is no corruption in this office but bribes are always welcome.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 01:54 PM
Terry, on the Epic today that requires multiple parts to complete...is it possible to have a tracker for what's been completed, other than numbers, so people know which ones they've completed if they're attempting the first option (like you do with X hourlies a day, or play a quiz is X different categories)? Does that make sense? My total so far is 1 each, and I know which game it is right now, because I was paying attention, but if I wasn't, I'd have no idea which game it was. I really hope that made sense..
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 03:06 PM
yep, will add kaddar
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 03:28 PM
Awarded retroactively, that's good. I cannot attempt the other one, so someone else will have to see if it works. :P
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 06:53 PM
Are we going to get different epics tomorrow? I don't know if I'll get any of mine today (but I guess that's why they are EPIC
)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 08:17 PM
I'll add a couple more tomorrow, and reassign those from today in case anyone wants to try em.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 08:36 PM
I'll add a couple more tomorrow, and reassign those from today in case anyone wants to try em.
I'd like to try them again
The second one was kind of tough to do after since they were added later today, so another chance at it will be good. They look great so far!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:10 PM
Ok Wes, am adding the first 2 minibadges to the challenge section.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:21 PM
Ok Wes, am adding the first 2 minibadges to the challenge section.
I like how they look! What are the 8 colored flags going to be? Looks like orange, blue, and black so far...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:25 PM
Added an area for daily challenges before Retired challenges
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:35 PM
Great looking! So, if we complete them in testing, do we get 'em? Or wait till it is open to all and sundry?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:37 PM
This is awesome, Terry! Imagine the suspense we are putting the other players through. ;-). We're close to having this thing done, I can taste it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:39 PM
Great looking! So, if we complete them in testing, do we get 'em? Or wait till it is open to all and sundry?
I think it would be a little unfair for us to keep them from testing. Since we don't have to purchase them and we get multiple chances...at least for the ones we got today.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:40 PM
Yeah, I agree, just wondering...besides, anyhow, I'm not going to get either of mine today. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:42 PM
I won't be getting them either. Looks like Wes and Salami are though!! I fully intend on getting the "Scoring" one tomorrow, if we're replaying them. I doubt I'll get the other one though, considering how my performance today went (and the one I got credit for was at 3am)...
On the bright side, it appears that I will be completing my Difficult challenge at the end of the day today as I'm currently ranked 1st in my GC "For Children" set
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:49 PM
I won't add the badge awarding code in til the very end, so no, you guys wont get any badgelets
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:49 PM
I fully intend on getting the "Scoring" one tomorrow, if we're replaying them. I doubt I'll get the other one though, considering how my performance today
Same here! Even used my Change a category Expert, promptly forgot and slept through it, and then after placing second in one category, used my precious Mulligan and dropped even lower! :-P
But on the bright side, I got my Daily Game one, and the epics are actually the most fun ones.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:52 PM
I won't add the badge awarding code in til the very end, so no, you guys wont get any badgelets
That's really the only fair way to do it, Terry. But knowing that I can complete them certainly will make me feel better when I actually get them in the game!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 10:56 PM
Same here! Even used my Change a category Expert, promptly forgot and slept through it, and then after placing second in one category, used my precious Mulligan and dropped even lower! :-P
But on the bright side, I got my Daily Game one, and the epics are actually the most fun ones.
I changed the Future to "Greek Myth" which I've tried for several times without success. I almost slept through it, as it didn't appear until 3am, but I managed to stay awake and I ended up beating 60 people to earn my 13th Expert win
I've only used my Mulligan once, I keep forgetting about it. It actually moved me up 2 spots the one time I DID use it, which allowed me to win a daily challenge weeks ago (comment's on one of the earlier pages in this thread I believe).
Not even close on my Medium Challenge today. It's a bit difficult, considering I've only ever played the "Easier" game. Oh well, it was worth a shot I guess. No cigar this time.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:07 PM
Did the "Scorer" requirement change sometime today, or am I seeing things? I could have sworn it looked harder the first time I saw it today...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:09 PM
Did the "Scorer" requirement change sometime today, or am I seeing things? I could have sworn it looked harder the first time I saw it today...
Yep, earlier it was...hrm...harder. :-P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:14 PM
Yeah, made it a little more accessible, considering that people will likely get it in the middle of the day sometime on average.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:18 PM
Yeah, made it a little more accessible, considering that people will likely get it in the middle of the day sometime on average.
Cool. Good to know I'm not going insane
With the new set up it corresponds to something else too, whereas it really didn't before, so that's a plus too I think.
P.S. Being vague for the sake of "secrecy" from the general public, and still having stuff make sense to the testers who are "in-the-know" is really hard.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:20 PM
P.S. Being vague for the sake of "secrecy" from the general public, and still having stuff make sense to the the testers who are "in-the-know" is really hard.
Quite! That's why I said what I did and finished the rest in PM...:-P
Edit: Speaking of which, that link there in the first post in this thread, can anyone go to it? Because the epics are shown from that link...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 12 2012 11:24 PM
Edit: Speaking of which, that link there in the first post in this thread, can anyone go to it? Because the epics are shown from that link...
I actually tested that the first week! (I logged out of my account and, as a Guest, I attempted to access the page, just because I was curious what would happen
)
And the answer is no, clicking the link without being a tester just sends you to an error page.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 04:46 AM
Yeah, made it a little more accessible, considering that people will likely get it in the middle of the day sometime on average.
If this means the middle of the FT day, then all those over here will be at a serious disadvantage because by that time we'll be making/eating dinner and there'll only be a couple of hours left before bedtime. (At least for 'normal' people who go to work/school.)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 05:40 AM
Flopsy, essentially it's your playing day, whichever way you're structuring it around the FT day. You'll get the challenge after some (more or less) activity on the site as you at least needed to do some others first and thus you will be less prepared than if you were doing an Endurance run where you plan it out first thing in the morning.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 06:36 AM
Hmm. Well, assuming I've understood you correctly, if you're monitoring my activity on the site I have a problem - because I don't play most team games, or much else, until late evening here. So if I have to do those first, I'm never going to see the Epics until it's too late to complete them. And that would also apply to people who go out to work and do their main FT stint after dinner.
If I have a challenge that involves my getting to X position Y number of times then I need a fairly long period in which to achieve that because of the random way game topics are served up. If Y=2 then I might need more than 8 hours to get it, even with luck and a following wind. But if I only have 3 hours because of when the challenge is issued, I wouldn't have a hope.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 07:19 AM
Nonono... Your playing day is how you are setting up your play, your personal way of playing FT. What Terry wanted to say is that you don't get the relevant Epic at the beginning but somewhere along the way after doing some of your play schedule, so the requirements were toned down.
Of course if you are generally doing most of your play in the evenings, you would have more problems doing this challenge than someone who goes for it earlier. The best way to go is simply to buy challenges only on those days where you can do so early and thus have enough time left to give proper attention to an epic.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 09:30 AM
Your challenges are issued midnight FunTrivia time. It doesn't matter what timezone you are in, everyone gets 24 hours from midnight FT time to complete their daily challenges.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:22 AM
Your challenges are issued midnight FunTrivia time. It doesn't matter what timezone you are in, everyone gets 24 hours from midnight FT time to complete their daily challenges.
Flopsy's confusion was related to your statement that one would receive an epic in the middle of the day and the assumption that would leave a European with very little time to complete (by equating "middle of the day" with afternoon FT time).
Obviously this should rather be read as "some time during your playing day" which then leaves it up to the player to consider just when or when not to buy new challenges.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:38 AM
Good point, Wes, that wording is much better.
subliminal messages. Ooooh, spooky.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:41 AM
It makes sense now.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:00 PM
FYI: the "total points" of the newest epic is a total guess right now. Interested to see how people score, and will adjust it from there. Want it to be difficult, but not impossible.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:04 PM
Oh dear...I feel faint. :-P Oh well...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:09 PM
So, on the Green Flag daily game, I have the same game listed twice. Also, do things need to be played in Timed mode to count?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:18 PM
The number is far too high, Terry. I'll put the detailed explanation in the PM to keep it secret.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:21 PM
And kad is right. There's a double.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:39 PM
I haven't tried the latest one but just looking at it made me feel faint. I would suggest cutting those numbers down to at most 15% of what they are now. I appreciate this is supposed to be Epic but there's no point in killing people - who also have to do other challenges, play their usual team games, etc. I'm ignoring having to eat, food is for wusses.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:41 PM
Double-up fixed. Now to fix the score.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:57 PM
How does top range of 8100 to 8500 work? It appears that we certainly have a few outliers (wesley being one of them), but the average "good score" for high level players is in the 8000s.
Then it reduces based on level from there for lower lev players.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:57 PM
Flopsy, they are 15%... check the underlined words :)))
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 12:59 PM
My new goal looks much better. There's no way I could have reached the last one. I still might not reach the new one, but it will be much closer I think.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:00 PM
8500 sounds pretty low to me. I'll check something using overall placings from yesterday to see how it would scale with levels. BBIAF
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:01 PM
It doesn't look like it's marking the Epic complete...Wes and Salami passed the mark but still have incompletes...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:01 PM
Yesterday stats
2nd number is player level
4th number is the 6 total
1 171 6 8605
2 167 6 9335
3 165 6 8173
4 163 6 8272
5 162 6 8193
6 161 6 7905
7 161 6 8188
8 158 6 8928
9 157 6 8663
10 156 6 8045
11 155 6 9329
12 155 6 8382
13 154 6 8250
14 153 6 9730
15 152 6 8750
16 152 6 8450
17 152 6 7602
18 151 6 7687
19 150 6 7912
20 150 6 7873
21 150 6 9395
22 149 6 9249
23 148 6 8780
24 147 6 8039
25 147 6 9151
26 147 6 8770
27 146 6 8221
28 146 6 8256
29 140 6 9574
30 140 6 7271
31 139 6 8631
32 139 6 5514
33 139 6 7054
34 136 6 9018
35 136 6 8666
36 136 6 6495
37 136 6 7393
38 135 6 5573
39 135 6 6813
40 134 6 8705
41 134 6 7319
42 133 6 8283
43 132 6 8055
44 132 6 8550
45 132 6 8618
46 132 6 7485
47 130 6 7657
48 130 6 7389
49 128 6 8394
50 128 6 9388
51 128 6 7126
52 127 6 7837
53 127 6 8007
54 126 6 9853
55 126 6 7613
56 126 6 7087
57 126 6 7402
58 126 6 7967
59 122 6 8444
60 122 6 5613
61 121 6 8017
62 121 6 7987
63 121 6 7823
64 121 6 6681
65 120 6 7503
66 120 6 8834
67 120 6 7380
68 120 6 4916
69 119 6 7975
70 117 6 8133
71 116 6 7484
72 116 6 5877
73 116 6 8854
74 115 6 8108
75 115 6 8580
76 115 6 7128
77 114 6 7455
78 114 6 8415
79 113 6 7694
80 113 6 6958
81 112 6 4468
82 112 6 7690
83 112 6 7261
84 112 6 5535
85 110 6 7294
86 109 6 7363
87 109 6 7940
88 108 6 6888
89 108 6 3521
90 107 6 8122
91 107 6 3084
92 106 6 6405
93 105 6 6791
94 105 6 7827
95 104 6 7194
96 104 6 9001
97 103 6 6159
98 102 6 7814
99 102 6 3078
100 102 6 2787
101 102 6 8407
102 102 6 5610
103 101 6 6987
104 101 6 8282
105 100 6 6087
106 99 6 7973
107 98 6 7519
108 96 6 7488
109 95 6 8189
110 95 6 7370
111 95 6 6036
112 94 6 4032
113 94 6 7036
114 93 6 6933
115 92 6 7165
116 91 6 6523
117 91 6 6857
118 91 6 7092
119 88 6 4933
120 85 6 8003
121 84 6 8387
122 84 6 3312
123 84 6 7665
124 81 6 7882
125 81 6 6305
126 81 6 8082
127 80 6 7971
128 79 6 4218
129 77 6 6663
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138 34 6 6620
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:01 PM
yeah, the completion check isn't in yet since im fiddling with nums
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:02 PM
Hold up. Since when was kad's lower than mine? :-P Mine looks doable, in fact, downright easy after that other one.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:04 PM
( I think Wesley lives in a fantasy world where he thinks everyone scores 100% on everything like him
)
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:08 PM
Flopsy, they are 15%... check the underlined words :)))
Mine says: "You must collect (dum di dum) points in each of the following (dum di dum)" and nothing is underlined apart from mode - and the mode shown is the hardest one.
And if that's 15% I hate to think what 100% was, my calculator doesn't go that high.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:11 PM
Flopsy, you can score 1000 points for a 10 Q quiz in game mode.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:14 PM
Hold up. Since when was kad's lower than mine? :-P Mine looks doable, in fact, downright easy after that other one.
Have my goals always been higher than yours before?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:15 PM
If so, it's because of level range modifications.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:15 PM
Your numbers confim my analysis I did a different way.
If I take about 75th percentile in your list (25% are better), by level groups, I get a decent approach with
150+ : 9000
140s: 8800
130s: 8600
120s: 8400
110s: 8200
100s: 8000
90s: 7800
80s: 7600
and so on.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:18 PM
You're right, Terry, Wes is incredibly good... He managed 9500, which is pretty high for most players. I did better than average today, and only manage 8522. I think between 8500 and 9,000 is a good number. Like mentioned before, we don't want it to be impossible.
Speaking of which, I got 8522, my goal is 8511, and it says incomplete.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:18 PM
Okay, but do we really want a 75% failure rate?
I think a 50/50 would be more in line.
Remember that the stats are skewed because only players who played those games appeared on the list. A lot of players will get that challenge and play unfamiliar games. It's a mini-badge. We don't want to be too evil.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:20 PM
We don't want to be too evil.
You sure? :-P
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:20 PM
That's a good method, Wes. 9,000 isn't too terrible. :P
But perhaps simply viewing levels isn't the best. I have no skill in some of the games, so average scores could be looked at as it does for the other challenges, and add it up based on our average score, plus a few hundred for added difficulty. That way, players like you would get 9500, and players like me would get about 8500. :P
Some people don't do well in the games, just have tons of points and get levels that way. It looks like a good point system you have there, but perhaps it's not the greatest in that respect.
Is it possible to have the number automatically created based on each individual player's averages of the games?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:22 PM
Hmmm... for 50%, we'd actually want 5400 + lev * 20, in that case 8500 at 155 is of course correct. I interpreted "difficult but not impossible" closer to a 75% effort.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:22 PM
Flopsy, you can score 1000 points for a 10 Q quiz in game mode.
It's a confusion caused by the wording. You can score 1000/1000 but you'll still only get 150 points - I interpreted it to mean FT points, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be the only one!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:23 PM
So, an example for what I attempted to suggest...
Player A: Averages total of 950 in A, 450 in B, etc, total average of 6250, add a few hundred for added difficulty, that particular player gets 6450 as their goal.
That might be a level 140 player. A level 80 player that is really good at games (a few come to mind) might get 8500 as their goal. Just depends on each person.
If that's possible. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:23 PM
I think the current values would trip up a good deal of players who dont play the games regularly.
I doubt I'd pass my requirement, lol
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:24 PM
Salami, the problem is that many players will not have meaningful averages for all six games.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:25 PM
1,000 points in game mode is near impossible. You have to click the answer as it is appearing, and the timer starts before the fourth option is even visible at times. I find 99 per question to be about right for a very simple quiz that you can answer quickly, with an occasional 100 points... Very unlikely. Near impossible to score 1,000.
Not that it matters; just saying.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:25 PM
Salami, the problem is that many players will not have meaningful averages for all six games.
I, myself, only play two of the games listed on a regular basis.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:27 PM
You're right, Wes, that's true.
Hmmm, your method perhaps works best. Or whatever that 5400 and level * 20 thing was, too complicated for me, but it seemed to work out. :P
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:27 PM
Salami, the problem is that many players will not have meaningful averages for all six games.
Yes, like me. I've not touched Pot of Gold before....But Salami has a point, not all level 60ers are created equal. :-P I'm pretty sure that some people my level will do tons better than me.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:27 PM
Still, even taking 10 seconds to answer each question, that's 900 points, which is still a bunch.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:28 PM
So what are everyone's thoughts on the orange one before I move on... too much stuff?
Too many categories? Too many points required?
Or does it look fair?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:29 PM
I guess it looks fair. Fair enough to me, anyhow, although I'm still not sure about categorizing people by level.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:30 PM
For my goals, it seems quite doable. The points required are easy enough to get for each category, but perhaps the number of categories could be lowered by a couple. Many of them I don't play on a regular basis because I know nothing about the subjects and have to Google...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:30 PM
I was also speaking from experience.... I'm level 154, but my scores are VERY low in comparison to most other level 150+ers... That's why player based seemed good. Some players have 20,000,000 points and reach level 150, others have 120 badges that gave them those levels... I stink at PoG, others excel. If a player is a quiz-author and point-earner, they could have 60 in points, 10 in quiz-writing, plus 5 or so with point earning only... That's level 75. Throw in a few hourly badges and other assorted badges, it's not too difficult to reach level 120 or so without being too terribly good at the games.
That's the only reason I figure that basing it on levels isn't that great, but there really is not much of a choice; otherwise it's too difficult to come up with numbers.
Of course, I will love whatever is chosen, and will do my darndest to win it regardless, so it doesn't really matter.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:32 PM
Well you DID win it with 8511 Salami :P
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:33 PM
Scoring fairly well in every quiz you play, for my score it takes 6 quizzes, times 18, that's 108 quizzes... Seeming you won't get it until later in the day, typically, it seems a wee bit high. I have no clue what the perfect number is, but 108 quizzes scoring nearly perfectly and quick to get those points takes a while. But it's doable, I think, for most people (just not me). So I think it might be a good number.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:34 PM
Yes, I did, it's checked now, Terry. It didn't when you first changed it to 8511.
I'm not the best player, so don't use my scores to determine a good number. Perhaps 9,000 is best, the perfect balance between Wes's supremeness and my lacking.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:36 PM
To get my scores for the Orange I figure I will have to play somewhere in the range of 50-70 quizzes, which is not bad for me, and I've played that many on several occasions, without being online all day, just not in so many categories.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:38 PM
I'll lower it by a couple of categories. That sounds a little excessive for "normal people"
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:39 PM
Yeah, looking at each of the 6 games, Wes is a machine that performs much higher than most. I had a decent score in most games, though I flubbed a few, but I am scoring very highly in two of the games... For an average player, a bit higher than my scores seems accurate.
I keep going back and forth, don't I?
9,000 seems difficult. I could have gotten all 30 in Mind Melt, that's common for me, so add 400 points there, I'm still not quite there, and I could score two or three more in the daily game, so there's 200 or 300 more...
The other games I could not score much higher, since I did fairly well in all... Well, perhaps add 200 for world.
Yeah, 9000 isn't unattainable.
Geez, I'm all over the place. Feel free to ignore my ramblings.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:42 PM
When you cut the categories, it sliced off the one I just completed
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:43 PM
When you cut the categories, it sliced off the one I just completed
Same! And it was my favorite easy category! I demand a refund! :-P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:44 PM
lol, ill do a reroll.. see if it helps
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:46 PM
Well it brought back my completed category! But cut all my partials...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:50 PM
It brought in People! Yes!
And BTW, I finished the required games for the green flag. Please don't look at my scores!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:51 PM
And BTW, I finished the required games for the green flag. Please don't look at my scores!
Too late, I already did. Not your day today...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:52 PM
Too late, I already did. Not your day today...
Is it ever?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:54 PM
Hahahahaha
Statistically it has to be sometime, yes?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:55 PM
You need to play Daily Game in timed to get a reasonable score.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:56 PM
Hahahahaha
Statistically it has to be sometime, yes?
Statistically, "my day" is still a bad day, lol.
Theoretically, yes. Actually, no.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 01:56 PM
You need to play Daily Game in timed to get a reasonable score.
Which I realized...afterwards.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 02:20 PM
I just got a green flag! Target was okay as long as every game was reasonable, most days they're not but okay, it was doable.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 03:18 PM
I will at least end up with 2 of the Flags today, maybe 3, depending on what happens when I go for the Green one. But, as was yesterday, will not be getting the Black one. Not sure if I've ever managed it in the past or not, but it certainly seems to be the most difficult one to complete of the ones we've tested so far.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 03:51 PM
Problem with orange: Brain Teasers isn't doable in this format since nearly none of the quizzes support Flash
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 03:54 PM
Wes is right. Even when the author keeps it available in flash, the editors of brain teasers try to keep them all to HTML only, and usually uncheck the flash whenever I have it checked. :P
Should there be an incentive for finishing your three challenges for the day? If you complete the original 3, you get 500 points? Yes, no?
Subliminal messages ain't working.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 05:38 PM
Oops I'll remove that from the options
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 07:13 PM
Um, Brain Teasers is still one of mine.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 07:24 PM
Um, Brain Teasers is still one of mine.
It is still on everybody's who started with it. Luckily, it was not in my list
I'm almost done!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 09:17 PM
Going to be a close call for me on the Green, can't afford to slip up this final leg...
Missed it by 261...darn it. So close. Just 3 more right answers...
Would have succeeded if my Who Am I? wasn't turned around this morning. Never done it before where I'm given a description and have to pick the name. It totally screwed me up.
After all that, I have to say I think the goal given me was a good difficulty. I played better in a few games than I normally do, and worse in a few, and was very close to the goal. One more favorable set and I would have made it with a mix of pretty good and about average scores.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:12 PM
Great going on the orange one, kad! I'm done with mine except BT. :-P Those green ticks are so pretty!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:19 PM
Great going on the orange one, kad! I'm done with mine except BT. :-P Those green ticks are so pretty!
They certainly are. Too bad about the BT. I will have completed 2 Epics by the end of tonight, Blue and Orange
There's really no chance of me not getting Blue considering my position at the moment...looks like you're going to get it too! I wish I had a Green one to check off too, but oh well. I really don't think I'll ever have the chance to win the Black one. Though salami seems to be able to manage it...
My medium challenge today is driving me bananas. I now wish I had saved my "swap a challenge" instead of trying it out the very first minute...Mixed is kicking my butt. And the sad part is that I know I can do it, but can't seem to get it together today...I have the Achievement afterall!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:20 PM
...I wonder if Blue will have the same problem as the similar regular challenge had that first day, or if there was a learning curve in the creation...?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:31 PM
...I wonder if Blue will have the same problem as the similar regular challenge had that first day, or if there was a learning curve in the creation...?
We'll see in an hour and a half. :-P
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:54 PM
The black one is easy for me. The blue is easy to get if you are trying for the orange, but that won't usually happen... :-P
they're all awesome so far. Can't wait to see all eight!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 10:56 PM
The black one is easy for me. The blue is easy to get if you are trying for the orange, but that won't usually happen... :-P
they're all awesome so far. Can't wait to see all eight!
You're so much quicker than I am at the qualifiers for the Black. I keep getting higher and higher in the FT levels but I'm not getting any faster and it's getting harder and harder to win. You're just so darn fast.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 13 2012 11:04 PM
You're so much quicker than I am at the qualifiers for the Black. I keep getting higher and higher in the FT levels but I'm not getting any faster and it's getting harder and harder to win. You're just so darn fast.
Hear, hear! I've been pulling myself up by my bootstraps, aka badges. :-P Scoring? No way, uh-uh!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:08 AM
...I wonder if Blue will have the same problem as the similar regular challenge had that first day, or if there was a learning curve in the creation...?
So that question's been answered. Same mistake NOT mad twice. Got credit for the Epic.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:11 AM
Good! and
I wanted the orange one! Now! Now! Mine, I tell you!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 06:27 AM
Years of practice, kad. Fast didn't come easy. :-)
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 06:37 AM
I think the Black one is almost impossible for most of us, especially in the Champions' sets - there are one or two exceptions but I'd say that the number of people who will get that flag is extremely limited. Which in turn limits the number of people who can get the whole set. I appreciate that it's supposed to be difficult, but a requirement which rules 99.9% of players out will demoralise rather than encourage them. If the target was to get into the top three in those games, more people would have a chance. It would still be a slim chance but at least it would be there.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 06:54 AM
Top 3 might look better but I'd like to analyze some actual game results data on this.
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Actually, using the data I already have, I did a very rough one (in PM for Terry)
Based on this, top 3 is the better number for a 50% success rate.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 07:00 AM
I suppose it IS an Epic. Top 3 sounds much more doable, but then, some might find it less of a challenge. Top 1 looks fine, actually. It can just be one of the Epicer Epics. :-P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 07:15 AM
It has to be achievable by more than a handful - and that's especially true if something else is riding on it, like getting the full set. There are only a handful of players - and that may be a literal count - who can do the Salami trick, and possibly the same number who can do it in anything else covered by the black flag (which I'm not specifying because other people read this thread, lol). I think top three would still be impossible for most people but it would give them an incentive to have a shot at it.
You have to remember too that some divisions are much more difficult than others - I'm not sure the site needs another competition where new players are rewarded with badges the top players can't get or the number of complaints that will generate.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 07:17 AM
With top 3 it should be similar in difficulty to the 8500 requirement.
With top 1 it's comparable to a 9200-9400, based on my (somewhat flawed) data crunch.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 08:25 AM
Ok, let's do top 3.
If I can get your "triple" idea to work in a straightforward manner, you know what we could do...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 08:33 AM
I am fine with top 1 finishing, but, that's because I can do that one. :P
But top 3 is good. You're right, especially with a few players who dominate certain games *cough cough*, it's tough to get a top 3.
I can only get top 3 in a few games, so I think that's about right.
I remember when the hard game had a player who got about 15 seconds every hour. :P Hard to beat.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 09:32 AM
So we've previously determined that in order to purchase a new challenge, you can have no more than 1 incomplete challenge. Will the Epics be included in the tally of 1, or will that only include the regular challenges? If you buy the Epic with an incomplete already (assuming it's because you didn't qualify and have no second chance) are you screwed from buying new challenges, if say, you get the Blue flag, which can't get completed until the end of the day?
Also, just had another thought...will be Epics be switchable like the regular challenges? I don't think they should be, considering they're supposed to be Epics, but curious what other thoughts are.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 09:58 AM
Yes, you'd be "screwed" from buying new challenges. :P
Epics are excluded from being switchable, correct.
If you have an epic and a difficult left, you cannot buy a new challenge... If just the epic remains, you can. The epics do count towards that tally.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 10:02 AM
Epics are challenges and if unsolved prevent you from a rebuy as well as any other challenge. While you are working on an epic, you probably shouldn't buy more anyway since you'll want to make sure you complete the epic.
To put it the Marines way: Trust me. You will like it. That's an order
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Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 10:37 AM
They are not switchable.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 10:38 AM
Does Obscurity count for Black? Nevermind....
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:19 AM
Two down, one more is proving difficult. Of course, what will happen now is that I'll get all the pieces, get the darn black flag, then Terry will take everything away from me and I'll never get it again.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:23 AM
Flopsy, I just looked at your Black challenge...there's something wrong with the second number. It doesn't match the other total, and it should, since it's more inclusive...Terry?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:24 AM
I was just thinking the same thing. Oh Terry? :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:33 AM
fixed
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:35 AM
And now it's not complete, lol.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:36 AM
I should be getting mine today the same way I got it yesterday. With four of the same. :P You know which game, flopsy.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:46 AM
I think I'm going to attempt to get all mine the same way you've been doing, only with a different game. I've discovered a brilliant strategy
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 11:50 AM
Yes, I see you have. :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:17 PM
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:26 PM
Dang flabbit, the technique you have didn't work for me.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:35 PM
The challenge page says 232 challenges. I assume you have all the badges lined up and raring to go, but have hidden them from view? I don't see anything beyond the 220, but it says 232.
Can't wait to see them.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:37 PM
Some things are not meant to be seen
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 12:41 PM
We'd seen some of them already. :P
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 01:00 PM
I can't look at Wes' challenges; it says denied. Methinks he's testing the final parts of this thing and not even we are allowed to see it. Which is also why we cannot see the badges. It's all super top secret now, and it seems to me that we are incredibly close to getting this thing active!
Let's see if I played Sherlock well and I deduced correctly. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 01:01 PM
Got to do a few other things. Wesley made things take longer by making me add stuff.
Will get to adding new epics monday. Have a good wkend
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 01:04 PM
lol, Wes tends to do that.
More epics. Can't wait. See ya on Monday. :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 01:22 PM
Just clicked to see my Epics from yesterday, and....the flags are gone! Replaced by something else....good thing I remember which colors are which...odd though. Yesterday's "yesterday's challenges" were still flags...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 01:23 PM
I had an idea that ultimately should satisfy the cravings behind several other "we would like to have" ideas in this thread. I'm very confident you'll love it when you see it in action
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 01:29 PM
I had an idea that ultimately should satisfy the cravings behind several other "we would like to have" ideas in this thread. I'm very confident you'll love it when you see it in action
Sounds exciting! Can't wait to try it!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 05:00 PM
Dang flabbit, the technique you have didn't work for me.
Well it's working great for me
haha. I now have the Black Flag!! Yay
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 05:04 PM
By the way, if anyone has another idea or two for epics that are not too similar to the ones we already have, please send them to Terry and me by Forum PM. One or two of our original lineup likely won't work and we're looking for possible alternatives.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 14 2012 05:21 PM
I'll get to thinking. :-)
Posted by: shuehorn
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:13 AM
I'll get to thinking. :-)
[...]
subliminal message being sent, did it work?
What a wonderful sig line!
Gave me a wonderful happy start to this Monday morning.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:15 AM
Thanks, Sue! But, unfortunately, it really isn't working.
Posted by: shuehorn
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:22 AM
I suspected as much, but I guess it is good that is worked for "something"...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:35 AM
haha true, true.
I don't remember what it was for, though. lol
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:37 AM
Here I am, shoving my oar in again, but no, it didn't work, and I prefer the old signature line. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:38 AM
Shouldn't we have a new swap challenge button since it is a new week? None has showed up on the challenge pages yet, triviaking's is just left over from last week....
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:39 AM
True, very true.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 09:43 AM
Yeah, I have it because I can't use it (not a GM). I'm fine being regular for now. Maybe I can get a certificate for helping out
haha
Posted by: Buddy1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 10:48 AM
I thought I read somewhere that this will be ready on Monday (today). Is that still good or will it be ready some other day?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 10:54 AM
It is not ready for release yet. I don't recall anything giving a specific release date. There are still quarks to work through and challenges to test. I'm not sure when it will be released, but I promise it is well worth the wait!
Posted by: shuehorn
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:10 AM
Yeah, I have it because I can't use it (not a GM). I'm fine being regular for now. Maybe I can get a certificate for helping out
haha
Not sure if you've thought of this (or even if it is possible for you), triviaking, but if you donate to the Water is not Trivial initiative, you get six months of gold membership as a thank-you from Terry.
Sue
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:21 AM
There are still quarks to work through and challenges to test.
Those pesky quarks get everywhere!
I'm getting a little worried about the silence from Terry and Wes though, they went off into their little programmers' hut to work on something and the fact that they've been so quiet ever since makes me think it will be truly horrible.
Or it might just have been the weekend and they had other things to do.
Posted by: rossian
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:52 AM
I suspect it will be the 'truly horrible'. I hope this gets released to everyone soon. It is SOOOOO frustrating reading these threads and trying to guess what's in store.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:21 PM
Rossian, by "truly horrible", I suppose you mean "Epic"
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:47 PM
New epic added.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:49 PM
Love this epic, Terry.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:51 PM
Love this epic, Terry.
I second this! This new Epic is brilliant!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:53 PM
In theory this one should work for non-GMs too. Please play a couple so I can test the checking code.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:55 PM
It will be a few hours before I can try it. I've got some housework to do before company comes for dinner tonight. I will be back after 6ish FT time tonight.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 12:58 PM
Gold perk weekly reset added. Will reset Mondays
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:01 PM
It appears that the Epic is not assigned to triviaking. I notice a few times last week that not everyone got all of the epics, but I can't remember who it was that shorted. It may have been triviaking then too.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:01 PM
Played one, Terry.
Would you also like me to try playing two from the same category to make sure it doesn't count it twice?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:03 PM
I will play, when I come back, one that I have yet to do, and one I have done in the past to see if it counts both. Do you want to test to see if it counts the other mode in addition to the required one, salami?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:03 PM
sure, please do salami
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:09 PM
just saw the error salami, reload that submit page
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:18 PM
Reload which submit page? Hmm...
Good, did not count easy mode. Will go try two more of the same category to test that.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:22 PM
I added a new requirement, which unfortunately reset the scoring (and retroactive can't count in this one due to how things are in the back)
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:30 PM
Hey, that wasn't nice.
Now it says nothing is complete yet. :P lol. I will have to do my testing later then.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:31 PM
There's one epic thats for GMs only, so I didn't get that one. But I think I got today's one.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:32 PM
This one should be doable by non-GMs. Can you give a couple of a try and see if it gives you credit?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:33 PM
There's one epic thats for GMs only, so I didn't get that one. But I think I got today's one.
I can see it there now, but it wasn't there when I posted originally. Which color epic is the Gold Member only one that you didn't get?
Terry, is there a possibility of an alternative epic challenge to a GM only, that regular members can complete to get their complete set?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:35 PM
Nope, like other such challenges a couple of these will be GM only. Non-GMs will be able to do 80%+ of all challenges though.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:36 PM
The next epic is going to be potentially nasty, or not so bad, depending on how lucky you get
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:36 PM
Another test of this epic would be to try one of a different size than those that are requested...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:36 PM
Can't wait for the potentially nasty or not so bad one. Those are always fun. :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:36 PM
The next epic is going to be potentially nasty, or not so bad, depending on how lucky you get
That sounds scary!
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:38 PM
The next epic is going to be potentially nasty, or not so bad, depending on how lucky you get
That doesn't sound good...
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 01:45 PM
Wha? It sounds AWESOME!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:03 PM
Ok, go check to see what the system has cooked up for you
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:04 PM
Whoa... Red is like a 1 in 21 chance!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:05 PM
It all depends on what it chooses for you. If you're lucky and it picks something you don't play that often, the odds are a lot better.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:06 PM
I suspect this will be the hardest of all of them, which is why I chose red
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty much screwed on my new one. I'm never consistent in that game. I predict, despite my best efforts, that it will remain incomplete at the end of today....
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:12 PM
The way red is set up, it gives rather strange incentives. It punishes regular players (including folks who play the games for their team and those who try for a monthly) and rewards those who play very little (who might have zero scores).
Maybe base it on game count instead of days?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:16 PM
Maybe take last 10 plays and find the max?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:17 PM
Maybe not even last 10. Just any random 10. I like that because it's hard to manipulate.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:24 PM
Aah, I missed it. I don't see it... Did you put it on, let everyone see it, and take it back off... All while I was eating lunch? Evil.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:26 PM
I like random 10 better. At least that would give me the chance of a more achievable score. I've gotten a lot of good scores in the games I've played recently, including the one I'm in the monthly running for, and my best in those are hard to beat on a good day.
My only question with the set up would be if it's a game that you haven't played 10 in. What happens then? Does it just choose from random scores, up to the maximum of 10?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:26 PM
Purple scoring still doesn't work. I have played several now and can't get a score to stick. (Might be an artifact of the delete however since I retried the categories I already had a small one in)
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:27 PM
Wait, why don't I see a red flag? All I see is the purple one. What is this about?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:27 PM
Wait, why don't I see a red flag? All I see is the purple one. What is this about?
It was added, and very quickly removed for modifications. It'll be back.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:28 PM
XXXX scoring still doesn't work. I have played several now and can't get a score to stick.
You just revealed a big clue to a flag there, Wes...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:29 PM
Oops. try now wes.... there was a unique situation caused by... your unique situation.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:33 PM
I can tell this is going to be so much fun when everyone gets this!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:37 PM
Terry, can you check for me; I don't think general should be counted for me, but it is. Without giving anything away, could you let me know what I did that made it count? I don't think it should...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:38 PM
Fixed. I had removed that check to fix Wes problem
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:40 PM
Aaah, that makes sense. People are probably reading this, super confused.... "removed that check"? "Wes's special situation"? "Red flag"? "1 in 21 chance"?
Freakin' people out here.
I like it. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:42 PM
Red flag is back.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:42 PM
My red is actually doable with a good category now! Yay!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:46 PM
Aah, I like the red one. Could be incredibly tricky, could be really easy. Mine is quite doable today.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 02:53 PM
Yeah! This is great!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:06 PM
My red one is evil, truly evil, lolol. Can I swap with someone else, please?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:16 PM
Red looks good. Of course it hit me on a weak spot today, but it seems fair. Even this one doesn't look completely unbeatable.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:18 PM
Scored 711 for Red when it says I need a score of 490. Not showing up yet. Do I need to wait till the end of the hour?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:19 PM
Official badgelet name of the purple has a typo - missing an "s".
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:23 PM
I'm assuming Red is set up to be retroactive? And you said purple is not, is that correct?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:24 PM
Wish I had yours today Kyle, I could totally beat that.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:26 PM
On my purple flag, two categories are specified as counting - I tried doing the third category and it didn't get scored so that works.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:27 PM
Scored 711 for Red when it says I need a score of 490. Not showing up yet. Do I need to wait till the end of the hour?
I think there's something wrong with yours. Mine showed up immediately.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 03:28 PM
I'd gladly trade ya, Flopsy. :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 04:23 PM
Completed the purple one, triggered correctly as intended.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 04:39 PM
For the Purple challenge...is it possible to add a link to that portion of the site, so you can just click and go and not have to search for it (like there's a link for the Red challenge)?
Posted by: cubswin2323
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 04:42 PM
I'm afraid now! (Laughing nervously.)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 04:46 PM
Update on my Purple challenge:
1. Correctly recorded one I completed in the past that fits all the other requirements.
2. Correctly did not record one of the same category and that was too small.
3. Correctly did not record one of the same category that fits all the other requirements.
4. Correctly recorded a second category new one that fits all the other requirements.
5. Correctly did not record new one in a third category that was too small.
Judging by the above, I'd say everything works with this challenge. Will complete the rest of the required and see if the checks it off correctly as complete...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:07 PM
Kyle, do you not play hourly games very often? It gave you a special exception to the expected challenge. While that's not bad in itself, there was an error in that so I'll generate you a fixed one.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:14 PM
Kyle, do you not play hourly games very often? It gave you a special exception to the expected challenge. While that's not bad in itself, there was an error in that so I'll generate you a fixed one.
It's been a while since I last played Obscurity (long while); that score was very low. :p
The Word Wizard one worked.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:18 PM
Ok, 2 epics to go... I'll try to add them tomorrow. While we've come up with a 7th, Im still not entirely set on a last one yet. Hm.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:28 PM
Generated you an even newer one kyle... looks like it was giving you something too easy
Posted by: cubswin2323
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:37 PM
Ok, 2 epics to go... I'll try to add them tomorrow. While we've come up with a 7th, Im still not entirely set on a last one yet. Hm.
Is there anything FMI-related in the new challenges? That could be an interesting twist.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:53 PM
FMI is one option that can appear on any of the challenges related to hourlies.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 05:57 PM
*Sigh* 72 posts? I'v missed all the fun. But the new epics are really nice. :-P My red one, though...I generally only play that game when one specific category comes up, so it thinks that my average is really great...So not going to get it!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 06:00 PM
At the rate we're going, this will be the longest Feedback thread by the time the games get released
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 06:04 PM
Probably another week I'd say, 2 tops... 2 more epics to go, then the cumulative badges/challenges, FAQ needs to be built... then a load test on some of this stuff, where I issue everyone 30 challenges to see how things go
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 06:11 PM
I'm already thinking on what needs to be in the FAQ so it will be ready in time. Might even have written it up this weekend, but was wifetasked with a few other things
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 06:29 PM
If you need any help proofing it, Wes, I'm happy to oblige. Not that you usually make mistakes but I have experienced text editor eyes.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 06:49 PM
Hey, what about me? Future copy editor. :-P
Haha, jk jk. It'll turn out great............ Its Wes. :-)
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 07:00 PM
Oh Mr Future Copy Editor, back in my past life I edited copy for longer than you've been alive, lol.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 07:01 PM
Terry-- when you get a second aside from these challenges, please check your messages regarding my background project. :p
I've got a few ideas and hope to launch it in late October/early November but it would need a bit of extra work now.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 07:32 PM
Will do Kyle. Sorry for not paying closer attention. I have an awful attention span if I look at other things when in the middle of a project, so I have learned to stay focused on one thing at a time. Once this stuff is done I'll get to your stuff. Shouldn't be long! See if you can get other parts of it done that will need to be done.
Posted by: dg_dave
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 07:57 PM
but was wifetasked with a few other things
Ah, it's good to not have that problem lol.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:19 PM
Will do Kyle. Sorry for not paying closer attention. I have an awful attention span if I look at other things when in the middle of a project, so I have learned to stay focused on one thing at a time. Once this stuff is done I'll get to your stuff. Shouldn't be long! See if you can get other parts of it done that will need to be done.
Not a problem-- I'm working around it right now.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:37 PM
So I guess I won't be completing either Epic today. My internet has decided to go on the fritz. It's already conked out in the middle of two Obscurity games, giving me horrible scores and screwing up my monthly average. It will most likely continue cutting out for the next few hours (like it did the last time this happened) so I'm not even going to bother with the Red one today. Will have try it whenever I see it again...can you add the two from today to tomorrow's list, Terry, so I don't miss out on testing because of my poor connection tonight?
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 08:37 PM
Got my red flag with no problems. Fun stuff, guys. These challenges are going to be great.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 09:28 PM
There seems to be a problem with the system and my red flag. It says in the game that one of my better recent scores was 982. I got the category I wished for, did really well, and got 977. I'm pretty sure I never got 982...or have I? The best time I've had is 18+ seconds. Is that right?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:35 PM
Mariamir, anything between 17.5 and 18.5 secs would be 982. That matches up.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:41 PM
Hmmm, okay...Still, the only time I've gotten between them was months ago. Oh well.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:47 PM
I guess you just got unlucky. Of course my two personal bests in a row that I played today in the same game will surely come back to haunt me when it's live
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 17 2012 11:57 PM
Ha, sneaky! I just realized that I can't see your testing page anymore...what sort of devilry are you brewing in there? :-P
And yes, now I am regretting every good score I have ever gotten in that game.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 01:30 AM
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 02:56 AM
Ha, sneaky! I just realized that I can't see your testing page anymore...what sort of devilry are you brewing in there? :-P
Like every movie villain: If I told you, I would have to kill you...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 06:04 AM
Just sent a 37-entry FAQ document draft to Terry in order to make sure THAT particular front won't hold back the release.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:40 AM
37!? Woah! I was thinking we needed maybe 5-10 tops!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:49 AM
37!? Woah! I was thinking we needed maybe 5-10 tops!
Really? With all the questions that have been asked in the thirty page thread? I was expecting a lot.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:50 AM
ROFL
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:50 AM
30 page? Mine's 18. :P I guess I show more per page than you.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:52 AM
30 page? Mine's 18. :P I guess I show more per page than you.
Mine shows 30 posts per page. In any case though...it's a ton of chatter and a ton of questions. Agreed?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:53 AM
Isn't 30 per page the norm? Is it possible to change it?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:54 AM
In any case though...it's a ton of chatter and a ton of questions. Agreed?
Agreed! And I just noticed...some people might think that that post of mine just now belonged in a different thread...:-P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:56 AM
30 per page is the default. You can change it by going to 'My Stuff', then in the drop down click on 'Edit preferences' and towards the bottom you can change the number.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:57 AM
Edit Preferences, in the "My" tab of the forums. The default is 30 a page, but you can change it.
You can type in the number, so I guess you could have 46 a page if you wanted.
I have 50 a page. :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 08:59 AM
Now I have 50 too! I never knew that could be changed before....hmm. I never even bothered with the "My Preferences" link at all. I will definitely have to fiddle with it some in the future.
Edit: I don't like it, going back to 30.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 09:12 AM
Ha, sneaky! I just realized that I can't see your testing page anymore...what sort of devilry are you brewing in there? :-P
Like every movie villain: If I told you, I would have to kill you...
Is it something that will remain a secret to us to experience in the real game with everyone else, or will we get the chance to test it last minute and we just have to wait until then?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 09:21 AM
"Is it something that will remain a secret to us to experience in the real game with everyone else, or will we get the chance to test it last minute and we just have to wait until then?"
I think we'll cross our fingers and hope that one works
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 09:23 AM
"Is it something that will remain a secret to us to experience in the real game with everyone else, or will we get the chance to test it last minute and we just have to wait until then?"
I think we'll cross our fingers and hope that one works
I was actually hoping you would say this. I will be nice to have a surprise in actual play, to give us the same excitement in the game as everyone else when the game is real and working.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 09:24 AM
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 04:51 PM
Epic White added... it's ingenious if I say so myself
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 04:53 PM
But, but, but...You just doubled my challenges!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 04:56 PM
Something your switch might be worth saving up for!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 04:58 PM
Oh yeah, that switch was extremely useful. "Play 16 Sports quizzes" would have been a pain at 1am
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 04:59 PM
Can you double the power of my switch? I forsee I'm going to need it
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 05:02 PM
Clever.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 05:26 PM
B.b.b.but I can't switch my last one out! Argh, I'm doomed!
That's a very wicked challenge, Terry, I bet you used to pull the wings off flies.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 05:35 PM
"Looking good! As long as you don't gain any other challenges, this will complete at midnight!"
Seems this one will work unless you randomly throw me extras.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 05:40 PM
By the way, Kaddar - please do NOT pass Flopsy in the Nemesis. This will be an excellent test to make sure the white flag will interact correctly with challenges like it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 05:41 PM
I won't. The two of us already arranged that. Way ahead of you!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 05:42 PM
Great! Just making sure because I wanted to see that one covered and Flopsy is the only one with the right setup.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 06:26 PM
Great epic guys! However, I'm going for Three Keys today, so I can't play anymore.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Tue Sep 18 2012 06:42 PM
Great epic guys! However, I'm going for Three Keys today, so I can't play anymore.
I'm going for that tomorrow...with two others of course
I just looked at today's scores...looks like there's 4 of you stopped on the same number...someone got the wrong memo...
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:07 AM
That worked, I've been white flagged. Thank you, kaddarsgirl. Oh what a perfect day!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 09:00 AM
That worked, I've been white flagged. Thank you, kaddarsgirl. Oh what a perfect day!
Glad it worked!!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 09:06 AM
I'm done for today, because I've reached my 3 Keys Score...I did get my Difficult done in the process, though, so that was a plus!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 01:53 PM
And added our final Epic. Phew.
Its intent is to be one of the easier ones... something that most people can accomplish. It's giving people a nice varied tour...
Ignore the required values for now... they will go through lots of tweaking. I still haven't done any mods for level, etc, although such mods will probably be minimal.
The required scores are mainly there to add a little tension and keep people on their toes.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 01:56 PM
My favorite.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 01:56 PM
Looks awesome, Terry. I wish I could play it today.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 01:58 PM
Never mind.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:03 PM
If your teammates can't support you going for an epic challenge then you shouldn't be on such a team :P
Players that aren't on teams can join one for the day, or even create their own to play. So, it's not as if players are locked out or anything.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:05 PM
Can't wait to see what final scores you come up with for each game. Some seem a bit high, others a bit low, currently.
But you're still working on it, so I'm keeping my mouth mostly shut. :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:06 PM
Which ones seem a bit high to you?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:07 PM
And did you really score 0 on the new question game today? lol
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:10 PM
The New Question game is tough, Terry! I almost never do better than 5/10 (unless I take longer, Google, and ruin my time score). Fill Me In is also a very tough game.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:11 PM
I like an idea Wesley suggested... allowing for 1 or 2 X's to be a little more forgiving.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:13 PM
That sounds good to me. 2 Xs I think is lenient enough. It is supposed to Epic after all, just not impossible.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:15 PM
The last link in the yellow goes to the main page, not the game.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:22 PM
Ummm, yes, I really scored zero. I finished, got 6 right, didn't realize I forgot to click submit, and went elsewhere for what apparently was a total of 205 seconds. So, with time penalties, zero points.
But that was the one I thought was a bit high; 700 was where it was at, and only 12 people have done that today.
But then I saw it has been moved down to 200.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:25 PM
Mind Melt is really a bit low with 700. This should really look for some of the player's worse scores, e.g. beat your bottom 10% in the dailies and your bottom 30% in the hourlies.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:29 PM
Wes, do you mean individualizing the challenge per player like the one we had two days ago I think...was it the red one? Or doing it by level like some of the regular challenges are?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:32 PM
By personal performance (using a low default if the player doesn't have 10 plays)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:35 PM
I could tailor each one... but it gets pretty gnarly having to do this for all the games, and then have exceptions for those like quiz of the hour.
It would be a whole lot easier to have a set of static scores for this one that fit "the average player", then giving 2 mulligans. It will be nowhere near perfect, and likely too easy for some expert players and a big challenge for newer players, but not a big deal for just one challenge.
If this is the approach to take (and i'm leaning to it), then the question is what are good scores for each game.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:36 PM
p.s. "personal performance" doesn't work for most players. Most players don't play even half the games we've got on a regular enough basis to have any sort of history in the game.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:38 PM
In that case...I would definitely lower the Fill Me In.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:40 PM
You have to both know the answers and spell them correctly. And, from playing the game myself, there are some pretty obscure questions in that game sometimes and the game leaves no room for guessing like a multiple choice game does.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:42 PM
I also think you could raise Expert by a hundred or two.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:45 PM
Can't you just go through a few hundred (thousand) plays on, say, levels 1-40, 41-80 and 81+ and base it on percentiles of that?
I'll run the analysis if you can give those to me. Most recent 1,000 plays for each game in each of the three groups.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:47 PM
Just out of curiosity, Terry, what are the little numbers next to the games for, between the name and the target?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:48 PM
"scoring at least points in each"
Can this possibly be reworded to make more sense?
Something like "scoring at least the minimum points listed in each".
Or simply "scoring at least the listed points in each".
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:49 PM
I don't like dealing with percentiles Wes because they're not representative. Some games are played by a lot more experts than non experts, which really messes up such stats. Most of those stats are skewed upwards significantly.
So the best bet it seems to me is just to eyeball it, take a look at mid-level people who are playing, etc.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:54 PM
Epic challenges are also played by experts much more than non-experts. Using a percentile from actual play is probably more accurate than an eyeball, especially since we're looking at the lowest reaches here.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 02:58 PM
If non-experts do play them, though, they should at least have a chance, even if it does require a bit of luck.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:00 PM
Using the data I have, here are some numbers we can probably use (they represent some of the most failed attempts by the 100+ players). First number is for level 1, second is 100+ (progression capped at 100), interpolate linearly in between:
Smartest: 376/702
Easy: 837/967
Word: 1114/1323
Oscure: 210/519
Hourly Mix: 578/772
FMI: 415/609
Who am I: 500/768
Expert: 642/1127
World: 580/740
Daily: 1114/1278
New Question: 92/188
Pot of Gold: 639/794
Mind Melt: 1836/1998
Heroes: 650/785
Mosnter: 120/150
TvT. 908/1021
Brain Twist: 5 constant
Bus Ride: 6 constant
GMM: 391/611
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:09 PM
Just noticed the FAQ was up and running! Will have to take a look
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:11 PM
Being lenient on the dailies is more important than hourlies, since you get multiple chances at hourlies.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:12 PM
I like these scores, Wes. They seem attainable but not too easy.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:19 PM
I'll take a look at those. Remember that the majority of this challenge is just playing the large number of games. Scores aren't really the major intent behind this one. All of our epics don't have to kill people
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:20 PM
The daily advantage is built-in with the ones I grabbed. The scores I took looked at the 14th best attempt out of the 14 days data - which on a daily game means the absolute worst try by the player. (Not so for an hourly)
Missed "My Quiz" BTW. 75/90.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:22 PM
Why make bus ride 6 constant? Why not 5, which is when you get credit for it?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:23 PM
It's what my data came up with. Very few players ever score below 6 on it (since you are encouraged to research and players are trying to have a margin of failure available in case they misclick). 5 does the trick just fine however.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:31 PM
I just noticed a typo in the FAQ: Credits and Buying Challenges: Why should I spend 9 credits to get a challenge worth far less when solved? section, bullet point 4.
It currently says "You might thus as well just spend them." This doesn't really make sense. It sounds like what was meant was "You might as well just spend them."
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:32 PM
Terry, remember I gave the bus ride in questions to match the listing as it was. Needs to be multiplied by 15.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:33 PM
Kaddar, huh? The "thus" is a reference to the sentence before.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:37 PM
Ok, i've loaded your numbers and done the level mods... let's see how it looks. I did lower a couple I thought seemed a tad ambitious, but they look good in general.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:38 PM
No, it still doesn't make sense.
"You thus might as well just spend them" is pretty... confusing. Even reading the sentence before it.
The whole sentence is odd, and needs revising.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:40 PM
Kaddar, huh? The "thus" is a reference to the sentence before.
I understand that it is a reference to the previous sentence, it's just not a very clear sentence the way it is worded. It makes much more sense with the word removed.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:40 PM
In spite of playing a pretty horrible set today on a few counts (I would surely have missed any red targets today), the dailies were through without a whiff, but the lowest ones get close. Seems legit.
Now let's see if the lower level targets match as well.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:42 PM
No, it still doesn't make sense.
"You thus might as well just spend them" is pretty... confusing. Even reading the sentence before it.
The whole sentence is odd, and needs revising.
What you wrote above with "thus" before "might" makes more sense, even, than the way it is written. Right now, "thus" after "might" is very confusing.
In copying them over, salami, you actually reworded it yourself. What you have in quotes is not what appears on the FAQ page.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:44 PM
Might have to up the mulligans by one. That's a lot of games to play.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:50 PM
Haha, kaddars, I did not realize that. I had originally posted my own rewording, and somehow must have mixed up the original wording in translation.
Oddly enough, Terry, 2 seems low. But 3 seems high. :P
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:54 PM
My current epic says:
This challenge succeeds when you have 3 or fewer (left to do)
Current incompletes: 2
But the challenge is still marked as incomplete.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:54 PM
3 might be high for you salami, but it might just be the difference between me achieving or failing the flag. I don't play a lot of the games on the list. In real play, it will probably take me multiple tries at the epic before I actually earn it, even with the 3 mulligans.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:57 PM
scoring check isnt in yet floppy.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 03:57 PM
Oh, I'm the same way.... 3 will still make things difficult for me.
3 isn't high for ME, it just sounds high in general.
But 2 does seem low. lol. 3 is best.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:02 PM
3 is okay. You want to give people a few whiffs so they don't immediately give up when a Daily doesn't go their way.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:03 PM
scoring check isnt in yet floppy.
Floppy?
Wes, I'm about to construct a message to you with some corrections to the FAQs - just bits of English/grammar/typos. I'm sure you're thrilled.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:03 PM
No problem flopsy. I'm always willing to fix things.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:10 PM
Finish texts for all epic badgelets in place. Now we just need the regular badge(let)s and then the rest of FT can enjoy this (and we can see our really nice play records disappear without any trace)
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:22 PM
I have the epic challenge when I can't complete it because there are 5 GM games and there are 3 mulligans.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:31 PM
It's a GM-only challenge which you should not have received.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 04:32 PM
Finish texts for all epic badgelets in place. Now we just need the regular badge(let)s and then the rest of FT can enjoy this (and we can see our really nice play records disappear without any trace)
Are we going to test anything else? Terry mentioned some "stress" testing a few days ago, but maybe watching me play FMI twenty times* was it.
*Just a teaser for Cubswin, I know he's fascinated.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 05:09 PM
I'm so excited. I will maintain a steady lead above all players, of course. ;-P
Posted by: Buddy1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 05:29 PM
*Just a teaser for Cubswin, I know he's fascinated.
I think anyone who has been following this thread and has not played it yet (including me) is fascinated.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 05:53 PM
I'd be curious how many people ARE following it. ;-)
Dang iPad buttons.
Posted by: CmdrK
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 06:05 PM
There are droves of us, Swami, and we all want a crack at it!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 06:06 PM
I'd be curious hoe many people ARE following it. ;-)
"hoe" ? haha
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 08:07 PM
Epics inserted into the buy challenge code. It's all there now
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 08:22 PM
Cool! Any idea on how much longer we're going to be doing testing?
Posted by: Lones78
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 09:35 PM
and any idea when the rest of us can sink our teeth into these challenges?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 09:36 PM
Really soon. Got some Ts to cross and Is to dot first
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Wed Sep 19 2012 09:56 PM
Will we be able to see the challenges on the main page?
And when will we be able to see Wes' challenge page? I want to check every corner to see that there's no Weslenstein hidden in there...
Posted by: golfmom08
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:09 AM
I've been following and I can't wait! How much more is there to test?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:26 AM
And when will we be able to see Wes' challenge page? I want to check every corner to see that there's no Weslenstein hidden in there...
There is none. However I won't guarantee that for Wespires and Weswolves
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 11:50 AM
Added challenge "Totally Epic"
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 11:57 AM
Exciting! I am so thrilled. I cannot wait! Keep them coming! :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:00 PM
Added intro badgelet "Seven Done"
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:20 PM
Added trickier badglet "Ten in a Day"
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:25 PM
Can I just move the Totally Epic to the level bonus badges and it will work that way (as we wrote it) or will it stay on the regular roster (and require a FAQ change)?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:30 PM
I think it's probably best without a level restriction. It would be unlikely that anyone under 75 would complete that one I think, and if they are able to manage it they probably deserve the award then and there
I like to think of the level-unlocked challenges as either fun, bonus challenges to look forward to as you level, or for the really big kahuna large badges.
There is certainly place for a mega badge related to these challenges where a high level restriction might be fun. I think you know what I mean...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:32 PM
Okay, adding to Diamond and adapting FAQ.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:35 PM
Added challenge "Totally Epic"
Ooooooh. Pretty badge <3
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:50 PM
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:54 PM
I like it a LOT, Wes.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 12:55 PM
Just checked FAQ, and tried the links. Work great! "You might just as well spend them." Looks much better too, Wes. So much easier to understand.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:01 PM
Error, error, error!
Play top rated quiz Mark My Word and score at least 418 points in game mode.
Haven't played yet. Incomplete
This quiz is not available in game mode, only HTML mode. Is there a way to make this so it doesn't have non-game-mode quizzes available for choosing?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:06 PM
How many buys before your Epic salami?
On second thought, don't post that in this thread...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:09 PM
Terry, out of curiosity, is it a possibility to get more than one Epic a day in regular game play?
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:10 PM
I was wondering that, too, kaddars. I was trying to see how far I could go as a test, and it turns out I cannot go any further currently due to the small error.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:18 PM
Yeah, I definitely see how that "small error" is a big problem
Well on your way to 10 today (until the snag of course)!
You can always hope for a new quiz to be put online to be able to by-pass that one for now...
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:28 PM
Oh I meant to say earlier, but you probably know already, I got the Yellow flag yesterday, despite the fact that Terry didn't put the target scores in until after I'd gone to bed. Which, apart from my Lucky Ducky, may be the only time I'll ever get a badge(let) for meeting targets when I'm asleep.
Except I didn't get the badgelet and it will be taken away anyway... *sniffs*
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:34 PM
Actually knowing the number of buys would be pretty much irrelevant. It could be the first or you could buy a hundred and not get one (although the latter would be extremely unlikely). After all, it's totally random and each buy rolls some new dice.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:37 PM
Mariamir and I got Three Keys with one of her teammates after I'd gone to sleep last night, after we had to change targets because of a slight snafu. I didn't know you got the yellow flag, thanks for sharing!
I think in testing I've completed Blue, Green, Orange, and Black...could have gotten White and Purple if I'd actually played enough those days...Red if I'd been luckier categorically...not sure about Yellow because I couldn't play any of the games yesterday because of Keys (though with 3 X's I probably would have succeeded).
And, yeah. I'm not looking forward to losing all my accumulated stats, but that's how testing always is...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:39 PM
Actually knowing the number of buys would be pretty much irrelevant. It could be the first or you could buy a hundred and not get one (although the latter would be extremely unlikely). After all, it's totally random and each buy rolls some new dice.
What luck it would be to get it first off!
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:50 PM
Mariamir and I got Three Keys with one of her teammates after I'd gone to sleep last night, after we had to change targets because of a slight snafu.
LUCKY! My group had 5067 each, and we check the next day, only to find another player had it! Ugh.
We'll try again soon!!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:52 PM
And with these latest two posts, this little test has officially become the longest Feedback thread ever, surpassing two and a half years of Word Wizard corrections in just three hours short of a month.
If this is any indication of how popular this game will be, Terry might need an extra server
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 02:57 PM
Wow, we're awesome.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 03:03 PM
Mariamir and I got Three Keys with one of her teammates after I'd gone to sleep last night, after we had to change targets because of a slight snafu.
LUCKY! My group had 5067 each, and we check the next day, only to find another player had it! Ugh.
We'll try again soon!!
I tried to post a warning in this thread a couple pages back when I noticed. I think at one point there were 5 or 6 people stuck on that number. I was curiously watching after you mentioned you were going for it, because my group had been planning on it for a week or so now, to try the day after yours. I went to bed no knowing if we were going to get it or not, because two of us changed scores and the third wasn't replying to messages, but he came on last minute at fixed it for us. I was so relieved when I got on this morning and saw my Keys. Good luck with your next attempt!
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 03:52 PM
Wow, I was one of the two posts that made this the most posted thread in the Feedback session! Woo!
Thanks for the good wishes Kaddar, hopefully I get it soon!
(At least I got 15 brains for it
)
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:06 PM
"Terry, out of curiosity, is it a possibility to get more than one Epic a day in regular game play?"
Yes, it is theoretically possible.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:07 PM
Salmi's problem fixed. Generated a bunch of those challenges for everyone.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:15 PM
Terry - in epic yellow, #20 and 23 still link to the homepage instead of the game.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:34 PM
Time for a game of Name This Badge:
Daily X:
"Awarded to a player who completes 20 easy, 20 medium, and 20 difficult daily challenges."
Daily Y:
"Awarded to a player who completes 200 easy, 200 medium, and 200 difficult daily challenges."
Fill in X and Y !
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:52 PM
i.e. i dont have a name yet. need ideas :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:54 PM
We're all thinking Terry. Patience, man! :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:58 PM
Did you already make up images? The names might want to fit them
If not:
20 "conqueror"
200 "lord"
with the option to make the mega "overlord" at some point.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:01 PM
Alternate series (can you guess which word I really like here):
Adventurer
Conqueror
(extend to Conquistador)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:05 PM
This is what I first came up with:
Novice
Adept
Master
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:10 PM
How about:
Traveler
Adventurer
With Conqueror for the mega badge?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:10 PM
Master is reserved for level 150 special challenges.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:12 PM
Master is reserved for level 150 special challenges.
Oh, I did not know that.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:13 PM
"Daily Traveler" sounds to me like something from Bus Ride - not convinced.
Adventurer / Buccaneer / Conqueror. Gives an A-B-C.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:16 PM
It's not well published since very few people actually name challenges
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:17 PM
I don't like "Barnstormer", but the other two I like.
"Buccaneer" is much better!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:24 PM
Adventurer / Buccaneer / Conqueror. Gives an A-B-C.
Nice, I like it.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:34 PM
I like the abc thing. Haha.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:37 PM
Great, of course, everyone talks two more pages worth while I'm asleep. :-P
The new badges/lets look simply wonderful!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:38 PM
Great, of course, everyone talks two more pages worth while I'm asleep. :-P
This wouldn't be a problem if you never slept... :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:41 PM
Just terrible scores for me in Daily games today...
Except in the Who's the Expert game, got lucky with a good category this hour. Alphabetics is a cinch (except for one question today I'd never heard of before).
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:43 PM
This wouldn't be a problem if you never slept... :P
Hey, I'm not Kyle! (thank goodness, too crazy for us humans...) It's not my fault, it's the time zones. If the Earth was flat...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:05 PM
Sure I'll go with those. The two new badges don't really have images that are at all relevant to anything (other than they're pictures of "day"), but I think they're pretty, and pretty is important in a badge
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:06 PM
Added.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:07 PM
...but I think they're pretty, and pretty is important in a badge
It certainly is! No one wants an ugly badge... (of course no offense meant to any "ugly" badges
:P )
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:11 PM
Very pretty!
And I haven't seen a trace of an ugly badge here at FT, but then, the prettiest, the Lucky Ducky, still eludes me.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:17 PM
Very nice. I look forward to seeing them on my profile!
They'll look even better near my Lucky Duck
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:20 PM
"Play top rated quiz Can You Read A Doctor's Script? and score at least 774 points using the "Quiz Game" mode."
Same problem as salami's. That quiz is only HTML. Can't be played in Quiz Game mode. Can something be done?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:27 PM
<< Can something be done? >>
No, it's like that forever!!!!
Check now Mariamir. Was a bug not in the challenge but in that specific quiz.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:29 PM
"Play top rated quiz Can You Read A Doctor's Script? and score at least 774 points using the "Quiz Game" mode."
Same problem as salami's. That quiz is only HTML. Can't be played in Quiz Game mode. Can something be done?
I guess I should say that all three of mine had Game Mode like they were supposed to have.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:36 PM
I'll do a big round of tests on this tomorrow, giving you all a bunch of them to make sure they are all playable.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 07:43 PM
<< Can something be done? >>
No, it's like that forever!!!!
Check now Mariamir. Was a bug not in the challenge but in that specific quiz.
LOL. Thanks!
And next time, give someone else Three Dog Nights!
I know more about the Fronde Wars than about them!
Posted by: zorba_scank
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 08:54 PM
I'm waiting eagerly for the launch. All my incomplete challenges consist of long term badges or those I have no hope of winning. It will be nice to have something new to aim for.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 09:10 PM
That *puff, puff* was *gasp* intense! Finished the yellow one. Google was so unhappy at being used so much that it decided to load slower...
What's next?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 09:11 PM
And next time, give someone else Three Dog Nights!
I know more about the Fronde Wars than about them!
The one I failed to score the required amount in...I guessed for evey single question. I was lucky with the other two that I knew the topics. I'm a HUGE "Pirates of the Caribbean" fan, and it's hard to not do well on a quiz about Noah's Ark (I mean, I've heard/read the story a hundred thousand times....)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 09:19 PM
Crap. Even in the "Sports" category I can't get my Easy game score! My team would be soooo disappointed
Mariamir! How'd you get the emoticon to have a tongue sticking out!?
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 09:30 PM
Crap. Even in the "Sports" category I can't get my Easy game score! My team would be soooo disappointed
lol, I did badly. But then, Sports was never my forte.
Mariamir! How'd you get the emoticon to have a tongue sticking out!?
type ":" then "tongue" then a second ":"
Or switch to full reply mode and choose it.
see?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 09:31 PM
Ha!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 09:34 PM
lol, I did badly. But then, Sports was never my forte.
Yeah, my team are the Sports Fanatics, sooo...I tend to avoid playing Sports categories usually, because my sports knowledge is limited to a few sports and I don't want to score badly on a sports quiz with "Sports Fanatics" next to my name. That being said, the ONE question that kept me from the scored I need was a hockey question...and I knew the answer, changed it, and got it wrong. Gah! I know so much about hockey, I can't believe it was that one I got wrong!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 11:17 PM
Easy Game...Yay, I did it!! Thank goodness for Humanities!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Thu Sep 20 2012 11:52 PM
Dang. One game short of Yellow. I did, however get Achievement: Daily Game in the process, and will be finishing 2nd in my set! Yay! (Wish I was 1st though...)
If only I was better at the Mixed game and Smartest game...so close!
Posted by: bubbatom1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 04:12 AM
Geeez! I hope the instructions are explicit. I read you "news" and this doesn't look easy
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 04:55 AM
If you see only the FAQ without the actual game to reference, it surely looks a bit cryptic. However, once you see the game page that goes with it, it should become rather obvious.
The testing crew for sure didn't have any problems understanding it and that was without the rulebook
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 09:37 AM
Actually knowing the number of buys would be pretty much irrelevant. It could be the first or you could buy a hundred and not get one (although the latter would be extremely unlikely). After all, it's totally random and each buy rolls some new dice.
So this is definitely true. After completing my three regular challenges for today, I bought a new one to play. First bought one today: Green Epic
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 09:45 AM
One thing I've noticed is that when I play the Quick Quiz, no matter what the first question is, the answer page that comes up is always in relation to another question and I'm always shown as getting it wrong. Which of course I did because I answered something else. Anyone else get this?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 09:52 AM
I've never had that problem, flopsy. That's really odd.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:03 AM
Sounds like a weird caching issue. I've added some code to hopefully fix that. Let me know if if happens again... floppy
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:05 AM
Floppy....
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sorry, couldn't resist guffawing at that.
I love that Terry makes fun of it now.
BAAAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:07 AM
I've got a horrible feeling that Terry has reversed my webcam and can actually see me. Otherwise, how does he know?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:09 AM
Floppy....
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sorry, couldn't resist guffawing at that.
I love that Terry makes fun of it now.
BAAAHAHAHAHA!
I had to write flopsy's name twice when I wrote it, because my iPad autocorrected it to "floppy" the first time. It is still a hilarious typo
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:13 AM
I had to write flopsy's name twice when I wrote it, because my iPad autocorrected it to "floppy" the first time. It is still a hilarious typo
Not when you're my age!
Although I suppose I should be grateful that nothing has yet fallen off.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:37 AM
Your first bought challenge is an Epic too! That seems a tad too soon to me to be just coincidence...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:38 AM
I had to write flopsy's name twice when I wrote it, because my iPad autocorrected it to "floppy" the first time. It is still a hilarious typo
Not when you're my age!
Although I suppose I should be grateful that nothing has yet fallen off.
Aww, flopsy
You're not floppy!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:40 AM
Ummm, Terry? 3 new challenges out of the blue... Scratch that...
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:47 AM
Flopsy, did you get your epic on your first buy too??
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:52 AM
Yes, I did.
I was grateful.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:53 AM
Hmm something is really weird in the random stuff or you all got incredibly lucky. Will test that next...
Posted by: JanIQ
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:10 AM
Don't tell me you've switched the random generator to "epics only".
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:15 AM
Ok i have temporarily removed the buy restrictions. go ahead and buy some challenges and see how many epics you get.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:16 AM
Waaah! I was working my way through that incredibly long list and now it's gone. And when I clicked on my name to make sure I hadn't clicked on the wrong link I got a different set again.
I assumed you're fiddling, Terry.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:19 AM
yeah, we're pretty much done. im just doing some optimization now.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:19 AM
I did not get an epic until spending 105 credits. I also got one immediately after at 108.
So it took a long time for the first, not so long for the second. Randomization of getting epics seems to be in check.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:20 AM
It's better now. Took four buys to get an Epic, and it took a lot more buys than that to get another one. Feels much more random now.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:21 AM
Then one at 117. Then 123.
They seem to be coming pretty quickly now. :P
Then not until 162.
It seems to be pretty random to me. I think you two just got lucky.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:22 AM
No unique challenges could be found since you have taken so many today and yesterday. Now selecting a completely random one.
Interesting. :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:26 AM
Okay, right now each time I click buy, I get an increasingly long list of completely new challenges, but no epics.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:28 AM
All purchased challenges for me are gone. Just making sure this was intentional, not a glitch from simply having too many?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:29 AM
Yeah I'm messing with stuff. I just rapidly generated and deleted 10,000 challenges to test randomization. All looks good.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:30 AM
wow wesley is getting epic unlucky there.. hehe
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:31 AM
Now purchase seems to work again. Went from 4 to 5 to 6 and they stayed...
Two epics in 36 tries - 21st and 36th.
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:31 AM
Mine went too, Meathead.
Anyway, I bought some more and it took about 40+ credits to get an Epic - hard to tell how many I bought as my Credits didn't reset.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:33 AM
Looks like epic randomization is working fine then too. Nice.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:36 AM
Over 60 challenges and it doesn't look like there's anything incompatible on the list. Technically given infinite time and skill, I would probably be able to complete them all.
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:37 AM
Yes, it's all working rather.... randomly.
Yesterday it took only 3 or four purchases. Today it took 100 credits.... So nobody will get the badge by getting epics with their first 10 purchases. It's perfectly randomly balanced. Randomly.
"Me, its random, and you can always trust a random thing to be random. Randomly."
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 11:53 AM
Guess I missed out on all the fun during my shower...now I have 3 incomplete and no Epic...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 12:45 PM
Can I keep my 9999 credits
Came back, and wham! 9999. I clearly missed something big. Was that big jump just to have enough to do the check on Epic distribution?
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 12:59 PM
What?! I've only got 8445!
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 01:05 PM
Consider yourself lucky.... I've got 5076. :P
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 01:10 PM
It only took me 2 buys to get an Epic (Black Flag). I guess I'm lucky!
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:13 PM
Ok, I have opened up the new Daily Challenges section for anyone who wants to give it a final test run:
http://www.funtrivia.com/dchallenge/Keep in mind that all scores, challenges will be deleted when we launch it "for real". Also, don't be surprised if challenges appear/disappear as I test stuff out.
Please use this thread to report any problems, bugs, etc!
And a special thanks to the group that helped test everything to this point! Your input has made this game a whole lot better than it would have been otherwise.
Thanks
Terry
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:19 PM
Awesome possum!
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:25 PM
Cool! When does this launch for real?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:26 PM
Monday perhaps
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:28 PM
Wesley, I have added debugging info beside each challenge so that I can easily track down and fix things that break. If you need to report a bug, the c/u numbers you see there will pinpoint the problem.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:29 PM
doorfan58: I fixed a minor bug in your set and regenerated your challenges.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:36 PM
I was just going to ask what
"WARNING: This new game is still being tested and scores do not count
Feel free to play around with the challenges, but keep in mind that the game is not active yet. We will delete and reset all scores, etc when the game goes live shortly.
Please report any bugs you notice In This Thread"
was for, but reading the above posts explains it! I'm so excited to start for real! It has been extremely fun testing this out!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:37 PM
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:39 PM
Amen, kaddars. I liked checking in on you guys.
Extra subliminal message since the others aren't working. OOOOHHHH..... Mysterious.
Posted by: daBomb619
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:40 PM
Bugs, eh? I've got one I'm pretty sure is a bug...
My Medium challenge currently reads, "Score a cumulative total of points in the hourly game today."
Is there supposed to be a number there? And which hourly game is it?
Edit: Fixed now.
So when it says a cumulative total of 5445 points, does that mean exactly 5445 points, or at least 5445 points?
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:40 PM
Fixed dabomb.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:42 PM
Now I'm at even 10,000 credits
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 02:48 PM
Dabomb, it means at least. I think it is worded a bit odd, because I at first thought it had to be exact as well.... But upon further inspection one can tell it is at least.
Perhaps a bit of rewording would be nice, though, Terry.
Posted by: Buddy1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 03:39 PM
Is there a limit to the number of credits you can save or to the number of new challenges I can gain by spending credits?
Also, for the 8 badgelets which aren't listed in the Tower of Challenges:
1) Would I be correct in assuming that after getting an epic but prior to playing it, I'd know what the criteria is for obtaining the badgelet?
2) Are there just 8 epics with each one relating to one of the 8 "hidden" badgelets or are there more than 8 epics?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 03:43 PM
You can collect as many credits as you want.
You can only buy challenges with credits as long as you have no more than 1 incomplete challenge and enough credits to cover the listed purchase price.
For the badglets:
1. When it shows up in your list, it gives you the requirements.
2. There are 8 flags. 8 epics.
Posted by: daBomb619
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 04:06 PM
"Score a cumulative total of 5445 points in the Who's the Expert? hourly game today."
"So far: 0 points. Incomplete"
I've played twice today, and I have 2870 total points so far. What gives?
Edit: Fixed. Thanks, Terry!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 04:35 PM
I won us the Twin Challenge, Mariamir.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 05:02 PM
Got an Epic on my 5th buy. Black it is. In 4 hours I should have this...salami knows how...
Oh, and retroactive scoring worked great on my QQ Easy challenge.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 08:05 PM
I won us the Twin Challenge, Mariamir.
Oh, we had it! Thanks. See what I missed...
And I HAVE to say something..."floppy" is SO, extremely funny and cute!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 08:42 PM
Oh, we had it! Thanks. See what I missed...
And I had to intentionally miss several questions to get the 0 digit for the 2500...it felt so wrong...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 09:07 PM
I had to intentionally miss several questions to get the 0 digit for the 2500...it felt so wrong...
It felt so wrong, it felt so right...oops, I am NOT singing.
Yeah, I've had to score just 1 on an easy For Children words quiz...So sad.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 09:10 PM
Just 50 more minutes, and I should have the Black Flag Epic complete...hope my score stands up.
It's just so nice having thousands of credits to play with...I wish I could hold on to them all when the game starts...I haven't had zero credits in weeks!
Black Flag...? Crushed it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:13 PM
Well I'm stuck at 9 completes for today. I can't beat the Easy Game goal for my Difficult, and I have a medium left, with a used up swap-a-challenge. Did get the Black Epic complete though, so that was awesome.
Terry, everything appears to be working well. The challenge difficulty distribution seems okay, though I did have a few more Easy's than the others. I did get a least one of each though, including the epic. That's about normal with past testing, so all good. Everything recorded (and did not record) what it was supposed to, and gave me credit for completions.
Done for the night.
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:24 PM
Thanks for everyone's help. It is all closed up for now and will reopen on Monday for everyone!
Terry
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:37 PM
All closed up?????
I'm not good at waiting...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:42 PM
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:47 PM
This I know from experience
Dead equines and whips, kad. Remember!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:52 PM
Dead equines and whips, kad. Remember!
Ah, yes, I remember it well...
Just a little joke, darlin
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Fri Sep 21 2012 10:58 PM
Posted by: rossian
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 03:29 AM
Well, I enjoyed my brief taster yesterday. Roll on Monday - I need some new challenges!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 04:39 AM
I won us the Twin Challenge, Mariamir.
And I HAVE to say something..."floppy" is SO, extremely funny and cute!
*Puts Mariamir's name on her list*
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 04:52 AM
And a special thanks to the group that helped test everything to this point! Your input has made this game a whole lot better than it would have been otherwise.
Thank you, Terry - it's been great fun, I've thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm pretty sure the others have too. Thanks for the chance to participate - it was a great insight into the effort that goes into making the site work and I hope that everyone has fun taking the challenges. I even enjoyed the floppy moments.
Wes did a great job too, much appreciated.
But if it all goes horribly wrong and people hate it, I'm blaming Salami. Because I can.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 06:28 AM
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 06:30 AM
Thank you, Terry - it's been great fun, I've thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm pretty sure the others have too. Thanks for the chance to participate - it was a great insight into the effort that goes into making the site work and I hope that everyone has fun taking the challenges. I even enjoyed the floppy moments.
Wes did a great job too, much appreciated.
But if it all goes horribly wrong and people hate it, I'm blaming Salami. Because I can.
I agree with you wholeheartedly except for the last paragraph.
Don't we all blame Kyle?
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 06:48 AM
Don't we all blame Kyle?
Blaming Kyle is
so last year.
Posted by: triviaking162
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 07:33 AM
Thank you, Terry - it's been great fun, I've thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm pretty sure the others have too. Thanks for the chance to participate - it was a great insight into the effort that goes into making the site work and I hope that everyone has fun taking the challenges. I even enjoyed the floppy moments.
Wes did a great job too, much appreciated.
Whole-heartedly agree, Flopsy. Thanks for the opportunity Terry! It was great fun. Now we try to get the badges for ourselves!
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 07:57 AM
Blaming Kyle is
so last year.
That sounds
SO American. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 08:05 AM
Thank you, Terry - it's been great fun, I've thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm pretty sure the others have too. Thanks for the chance to participate - it was a great insight into the effort that goes into making the site work and I hope that everyone has fun taking the challenges. I even enjoyed the floppy moments.
Wes did a great job too, much appreciated.
Whole-heartedly agree, Flopsy. Thanks for the opportunity Terry! It was great fun. Now we try to get the badges for ourselves!
Yes! I totally agree as well! These last few weeks have been the most fun I've ever had on FT! I've done things I never thought I would, and discovered things I never knew existed. Thank you so much for the opportunity to test this new feature of the site! I know that everyone will enjoy it
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 08:40 AM
It would be easier to tell you who is NOT on flopsy's list.
I cannot wait for this to go live. People are going to have a BLAST! If not, I'm blaming..... Wes. Cuz I can.
because of all his secrets even the testers do not know.
Posted by: CmdrK
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 10:06 AM
I enjoyed the preview yesterday but I didn't get to see if I beat my nemesis.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 11:30 AM
I enjoyed the preview yesterday but I didn't get to see if I beat my nemesis.
If you remember who your nemesis was, you can always compare yesterday's scores from your profile pages.
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 11:30 AM
Blaming Kyle is so last year.
Just you WAIT.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 01:07 PM
It won't last long, however. At least not for some selected folks
*very evil smirk*
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 01:57 PM
I'm not going to show you the really tough stuff, Wes.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 02:18 PM
I've gone beyond really tough ten levels ago
Posted by: salami_swami
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 10:16 PM
I wanna know what Kyle has up his sleeve! And Wes' project too.
lol
Posted by: kaddarsgirl
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 10:19 PM
I wanna know what Kyle has up his sleeve! And Wes' project too.
lol
Yes...I'm very interested in what Wes has been doing the past week or so that was kept secret from us...hmm...
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 10:38 PM
I wanna know what Kyle has up his sleeve! And Wes' project too.
lol
Yep! Especially Kyle, if it has to do with quiz writing.
Then we can vote on who is eviler, if we can't tell from the Sprint...
Posted by: kyleisalive
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sat Sep 22 2012 10:51 PM
Yep! Especially Kyle, if it has to do with quiz writing.
That it does!
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 23 2012 03:25 PM
Thanks for everyone's help. It is all closed up for now and will reopen on Monday for everyone!
Only one more sleeps!
Posted by: looney_tunes
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 23 2012 04:27 PM
It's already Monday here. (Smiles hopefully.)
Posted by: dg_dave
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 23 2012 09:22 PM
It's already Monday here.
It will be in less than 2 hours here, and FT's clock is one hour behind mine. It'll probably happen after Terry wakes up tomorrow.
Posted by: Mariamir
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Sun Sep 23 2012 09:28 PM
It'll probably happen after Terry wakes up tomorrow.
Hopefully that's after 2:30 FT time because I want to be there for the opening ceremony!
Posted by: lorance79
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:23 AM
Fidgeting...
Posted by: rossian
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:00 AM
Twitching....
Posted by: bubbatom1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:30 AM
Wondering!
Does Monday occur on Tuesday?
Americans need sleep? Who would have thought that
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:32 AM
brings the big red button for Terry to push, connects it to some wires that stick out of the control panel labeled "Daily Challenges", sets it on the table and disappears again
Posted by: bubbatom1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:34 AM
Hopefully he isn't standing in any water
Posted by: surdoux
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:41 AM
Could someone please put some money in the meter.
Posted by: surdoux
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:48 AM
....and is Terry's alarm clock set properly for an early morning awakening?
Posted by: lorance79
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:51 AM
Aw, we already have to wait for everything else
No love for the far east?
Posted by: bubbatom1
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:24 AM
Yep, once gain, no love for South East Asia. We should be used to it by now!
Always the bridesmaid, never the bride
Posted by: flopsymopsy
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 06:40 AM
Hops on to Wesley's Big Red Button and... BOOM!!!
Oops. 
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 07:01 AM
Now that someone impatient who is not Terry has pushed the red button just as expected, brings out the big silver button and connects it to the correct wires.
This one's equipped with a key lock, however, so push all you want. Only Terry has the key.
Posted by: lorance79
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 07:32 AM
Well, it's half an hour away from Tuesday now so I'm going to stick out my bottom lip and sulk off to bed
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 08:22 AM
In about an hour and a half.
Posted by: AdamM7
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:09 AM
In about an hour and a half.
Why, Terry? Did you lose the key to the silver button? :P
Posted by: Terry
Re: Daily Challenge Testing Thread - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:31 AM
Beta over, thread closed.
