Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions

Posted by: Terry

Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:41 AM

Please use this thread to report anything that you feel is a bug or is worded in a particularly confusing manner.

Daily Challenges: http://www.funtrivia.com/dchallenge/

Thanks
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:49 AM

It's now open. Assuming everything goes well over the next few hour I'll post links to it on the homepage, etc.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:56 AM

I got my assignments, Terry, but I did it by following the link of your first post in this thread. I don't see anything on the home page. I even logged off and quit Safari. No change.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:56 AM

Please read the only other message I posted in this thread :P
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 09:58 AM

Who's got time to read? <blush>
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:04 AM

Got my first challenge done, play a quiz with 20Q and score 50%, with no problems. Also have Nemesis today, with none other than...you Terry! I expect I'll be winning that one as you hardly ever score...will have to wait until tomorrow, though, to see if that works correctly.
Posted by: Matthew_07

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:08 AM

Is the Gold Member perk still in testing mode? I get the "Only testers right now!" message.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:11 AM

Hmm, I've encountered something I didn't see when we were testing - two challenges (medium and difficult), both of which require me to take a list of quizzes. I think 32 is rather a lot. Any chance it could be coded so that players don't get two challenges of this sort?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:13 AM

Gold perk now enabled for all.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:15 AM

Hmm there are actually a lot of combinations of those floppy since lots of challenges involve quiz playing.... I can make sure these two dont show up together again, but I don't really want to have to isolate all of them. I think in general, on those days when it offers too much quiz playing, choose one or the other!

The heavens won't melt down if you don't complete challenges. This will hopefully be around for a long, long, long time.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:18 AM

But on the first day! cry

Would help if I even knew who that guy was I suppose, lol.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:26 AM

Yeah, flopsy's medium would be a case for the swaps for me as well. It's not like anyone will make a run on "10 in a day" first week, so no harm in using it early smile

But that's all part of the game - I got an easy one that I really needed to read up on first as well since I was supposed to play in game mode and score quite decently smile
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 10:48 AM

Your chances of winning "Ten in a Day" wouldn't be affected by using the swap function, only if you spend credits. Still, it's not like anyone is going to be winning "Ten in a Day" anytime soon.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Your chances of winning "Ten in a Day" wouldn't be affected by using the swap function, only if you spend credits. Still, it's not like anyone is going to be winning "Ten in a Day" anytime soon.


Actually, your swap could mean the difference between getting "Ten in a Day" and not getting it. If you have two incomplete challenges, at any point, that you can't finish (possibly due to failing to get a good enough score in a Daily game...), swapping one out would give you the opportunity to try a different challenge to complete. You can only buy challenges if you have fewer than two incomplete challenges. It's worth saving, except the next two/three weeks, where it doesn't matter. It will take at least 21 days (6 credits a day) to save up enough credits to go for the mini-badge in any case, though, so it doesn't matter right now anyway.
Posted by: Tatisboy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:10 AM

My dificult challenge today was to complete the crossword Generally General V without using easy mode. I played that crossword last week, but I went ahead and did it again. At the end it said that I had already completed that puzzle and did not give me credit for completing the challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:23 AM

Tatis -- I think that this was a weird case where you were actually the last player (of anyone on the site) to complete the crossword, and so the system got angry at you.

I think I've just fixed the problem. Would you mind filling it in again and submitting so we can test the fix?

It should certainly be giving you credit.

Thanks.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:24 AM

My medium challenge said "Score a Word Wizard Gold Member Game word of at least 5 letters." I submitted a 6 letter word and it didn't give credit.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:28 AM

Thanks, bug fixed Adam. That was a case our testers never hit wink
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:33 AM

One small carryover observation from the public beta last weekend: A player had C:577 and C:1577 together in one daily set - should probably not happen.

(Being intentionally cryptic here. Terry knows what I'm talking about)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:35 AM

Hmm that should not be possible Wes... those two are specifically excluded from appearing together. When / who was this?
Posted by: Tatisboy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:36 AM

I got credit for the crossword puzzle this time. Thanks
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:37 AM

I've put the admin list-of-all-challenges back wesley... feel free to look through people's sets and let me know of any irritatingly-overlapping combinations you find.

Not all overlaps can be excluded due to some of the variation in challenge selection, but we can certainly cut them down a bit.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:37 AM

Thanks for testing Tatis
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Thanks, bug fixed Adam. That was a case our testers never hit wink


Thanks Terry! It's updated now. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:49 AM

Terry, unfortunately I don't remember the exact name. It was on the opening minutes of the brief public beta, one of the first few users to get his. (Didn't write down the U numbers in that frantic start and it got closed too early to find him again)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:50 AM

Ohh it's possible I added that exclusion after I saw his entry myself. I did add a few that day as I was looking at everyone's challenges.
Posted by: fado72

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:07 PM

I've noticed that I don't have an Epic challenge.
In the stats Epic:0
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:08 PM

First, you can only buy epics. Second, the stats represent the number of epics you've completed.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By: fado72
I've noticed that I don't have an Epic challenge.
In the stats Epic:0


You only get 1 easy, 1 medium and 1 difficult challenge per day. To get epic challenges, you have to buy them. They are fairly rare, so you may have to buy a lot to get them.

EDIT: Buddy just managed to answer first.
Posted by: fado72

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:14 PM

Thanks to both of you.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Ohh it's possible I added that exclusion after I saw his entry myself. I did add a few that day as I was looking at everyone's challenges.


That would explain it of course. I had just made a quick notice as I was also clicking through all the sets looking for more urgent issues and didn't want to put too much time on this relatively low priority one right away (since it did not actually hurt the player's ability to complete)
Posted by: english_gent

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:25 PM

Just played this today and Easy and Medium achieved with little difficulty and went on to attempt the Difficult level and succeeded, but alas no badgelet awarded.

The five quizzes attempted were:

Sep 24 12 - 12:17 PM "Doctor Who": Series 5 & Part One of Series 6 Buziel Classic 8 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:14 PM 'The Shakespeare Code' TheCharmedOnes Classic 10 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:12 PM 65- 'The Three Doctors' Mattiels Classic 10 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:10 PM "Doctor Who" - "A Christmas Carol" drwhomad Classic 10 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:08 PM 'Rose' (Part 1) hrrypttrcrzy Classic 9 / 10

All were difficult or tough and met the criteria, AND were played in a row.

Bit miffed with missing out but wanted you guys to be aware of this.

Ian
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: english_gent
Just played this today and Easy and Medium achieved with little difficulty and went on to attempt the Difficult level and succeeded, but alas no badgelet awarded.

The five quizzes attempted were:

Sep 24 12 - 12:17 PM "Doctor Who": Series 5 & Part One of Series 6 Buziel Classic 8 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:14 PM 'The Shakespeare Code' TheCharmedOnes Classic 10 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:12 PM 65- 'The Three Doctors' Mattiels Classic 10 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:10 PM "Doctor Who" - "A Christmas Carol" drwhomad Classic 10 / 10
Sep 24 12 - 12:08 PM 'Rose' (Part 1) hrrypttrcrzy Classic 9 / 10

All were difficult or tough and met the criteria, AND were played in a row.

Bit miffed with missing out but wanted you guys to be aware of this.

Ian



What badgelet were you expecting? If it gave you a green check mark, it's complete. If it didn't give you a check mark, then you have a problem.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:31 PM

english_gent, "Dr. Who, a Christmas Carol" is Average, not tough. Thus it broke your winning streak. You need to play two more (the three next ones all count).

You can also attempt this challenge multiple times during the day if you miss - all that counts is to get the five in a row.
Posted by: english_gent

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:40 PM

Was it?? Darn, rats and other little words of displeasure.

Fiddlesticks - oh well, back to the drawings board then lol

And much obliged for pointing out my error (must get my eyes checked)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:42 PM

I will modify the output of that challenge to indicate which of your recent quizzes broke the chain so this type of thing doesnt keep coming up.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:44 PM

What badgelet are you referring to? I don't know of any badgelets that you would get for completing either the Difficult challenge or all 3 challenges.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
What badgelet are you referring to? I don't know of any badgelets that you would get for completing either the Difficult challenge or all 3 challenges.


There's also a mini for completing 7 challenges, but the earliest that can be won is tomorrow.
Posted by: english_gent

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:47 PM

Thats a good idea Terry, but really was my fault for not reading the coloured word properly.

BUT just to let you know I've now succeeded in doing each one, and would like to say that this is one challenge that I feel I would come back to most days to play so thank you for setting this up Terry and other admins.

Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
What badgelet are you referring to? I don't know of any badgelets that you would get for completing either the Difficult challenge or all 3 challenges.


I think he was simply referring to the missing completion mark.

And yes, the first badgelets can be won tomorrow. If you manage to score 9 or higher in today's and tomorrow's games, you can buy an extra and get the seventh done. You might also get extremely lucky, receive an epic and win that one as well smile
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 01:48 PM

Terry, 2 or 3 days ago, there was a link for facts about this new Challenge. I can no longer find it?
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 01:51 PM

Never mind -- Just found it at the top of the Daily Challenge page. Would someone please find my glasses? tongue

P.S. Liking it, so far smilee
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 01:52 PM

It's right on the challenge page itself as "Daily Challenges Intro & FAQ".

It's also http://www.funtrivia.com/faq.cfm?system=3
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 01:53 PM

Have fixed a couple of other minor bugs, and added the more detailed output for "in a row" challenges.
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 01:54 PM

Need to play a quiz within 20 minutes of it going online and get at least 90%.

Editors. I'm looking at you. wink
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: George95
Need to play a quiz within 20 minutes of it going online and get at least 90%.

Editors. I'm looking at you. wink


There have been several new quizzes placed online today according to the Buzz...I don't think this one will be a problem smile
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:13 PM

LOL, George, try being this side of the pond... when we were testing the challenge, I spent many hours each day waiting for an editor to get up and get a quiz online - and then it would be some obscure pop song I never wanted to know about in the first place! Or worse, a video game. ;p
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:25 PM

I would have loved to give you one but the only one in the queues I am working was unfortunately close but not really ready for publication.
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:26 PM

It's fitting I first checked these challenges 25 minutes after a bunch of video games and humanities quizzes went online. Neither are my good categories, but it would have been worth a shot.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:28 PM

Apparently, there are challenges on the global challenge. What happens during the weeks where one GC has just finished and the other hasn't started yet?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:32 PM

Then you wont get those challenges.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:32 PM

These specific challenges won't be given during that time.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:38 PM

Originally Posted By: postcards2go
Never mind -- Just found it at the top of the Daily Challenge page. Would someone please find my glasses?


Check the top of your head, that's where mine were. frown
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:52 PM

Nice descriptions on the new badges btw wesley smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Nice descriptions on the new badges btw wesley smile


On the "Seven Done" badgelet it says:

"Just come remember to back here and grab this badgelet when you have done your first seven challenges."

I think what was meant was: "Just remember to come back here"...
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:01 PM

I always knew Wesley was an android from another planet. His speech buffers got scrambled.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
I always knew Wesley was an android from another planet. His speech buffers got scrambled.


Haha laugh I especially thought it was funny that all the words were actually there, just not in the right order. Sorry in advance, Wes, for laughing at you...
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:07 PM

I must have missed that one... oops, sorry Wes. Although you may have written that one after I did the proof-reading, in which case... tongue
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: CmdrK
Originally Posted By: postcards2go
Never mind -- Just found it at the top of the Daily Challenge page. Would someone please find my glasses?


Check the top of your head, that's where mine were. frown


laugh
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Haha laugh I especially thought it was funny that all the words were actually there, just not in the right order. Sorry in advance, Wes, for laughing at you...


The "remember to" was a late addition after the sentence didn't quite feel right without it. It just got inserted one word further to the right than it was supposed to be.
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:04 PM

You scored: 7 / 10 , yet I did not receive credit for that quiz in my second part of the daily. It did not register that I had sucessfully completed one of the 8 challenges.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:09 PM

What quiz did you take?
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:16 PM

This was my challenge:
'Play a mixed quiz listed on the homepage and score 643 points. Click the PLAY link (not HTML) for credit.'

I played 'Mixed Trivia'('something for everyone') on the homepage by using Play Now as there is no HTML and I scored 706 but wasn't credited?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:21 PM

Tekka, that's not what we are referring to with that challenge. You played the hourly average/mixed tournament. What we are looking for is one of the quizzes in the section

Newest Mixed Quizzes - new one every couple of hrs!

(Located right under the new quiz listing, across the entire width).

You need to complete one of those six in timed Flash mode.

Good luck,

Wes
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:24 PM

I'll clarify that mixed one.
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:29 PM

Thanks - I realise where you mean now:)
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:36 PM

Here is the quiz info:

Arithmetic Sequences
Created by rodney_indy

Fun Trivia : Quizzes : Specific Math Topics

Thank you for your timely response
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 04:39 PM

Emma, if that's the only one you played there so far, everything is correct now. You have credit for one quiz.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 05:19 PM

Thanks Emma, a bug was found and fixed.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:14 PM

Just a small point on the wording of the Epic challenge badge which states:

Awarded to a player who manages to find and complete the eight Epic daily challenges.

Until I found and read all the Intro & Facts section this made it sound like they were challenges you had to FIND somewhere on the site and then complete them.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Midget40
Just a small point on the wording of the Epic challenge badge which states:

Awarded to a player who manages to find and complete the eight Epic daily challenges.

Until I found and read all the Intro & Facts section this made it sound like they were challenges you had to FIND somewhere on the site and then complete them.



How do you suggest it gets reworded?

It makes sense to me the way it is. You do have to find them, by purchasing challenges. The badge is clearly marked as being part of the Daily Challenges, so it makes sense that it is connected to those, and not part of the rest of the site. I don't see how the current wording is a problem. I also don't know how it could be reworded and still get the same point across.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:56 PM

Reworded Nemesis to make it clear that the scoring cutoff is actually 11:50, not midnight.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Sep 24 2012 11:57 PM

Terry, our NEMESIS challenge didn't complete at the end of the scoring day. It didn't give me a check mark. The scores flipped back to 0-0 and then started keeping a new tally from there.

It now has this message:

"Computing end of day scores. Final scoring will be complete shortly. Incomplete" next to it.

By the way...I am sooo happy I came back on this hour, because you stole my lead, and I had to fight to get it back! Nice to have at least some competition though. It wouldn't have been fair for me to win over a score of 0.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:01 AM

...now it says:

"Terry: 0 points so far
kaddarsgirl: 1055 points so far
Incomplete"

I was up into the 3700s when the scoring day ended.
Posted by: bubbafudd

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:05 AM

the clock is an hour behind...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: bubbafudd
the clock is an hour behind...


What clock is an hour behind?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:09 AM

It scores at 11:50, the display all works now. You get your checkmark after midnight.

And yes, I decided to see if I could sneak the win. I should have waited 10 minutes more and I could have wink I couldn't keep up with your points though, even playing for kids.
Posted by: gtho4

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:10 AM


Originally Posted By: bubbafudd
the clock is an hour behind...

The FT clock is fixed at GMT -6 hrs. It never changes (aka it ignores DST).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
It scores at 11:50, the display all works now. You get your checkmark after midnight.

And yes, I decided to see if I could sneak the win. I should have waited 10 minutes more and I could have wink I couldn't keep up with your points though, even playing for kids.


I was playing a bunch of Harry Potter quizzes. I'm an expert at those smile If you had waited until 11:49 you would have won :P
Posted by: bubbafudd

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:18 AM

the clock in the daily challenge. I live in the CST zone and its an hour behind what every clock in my house shows
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:20 AM

Yes, because FT skips Daylight Savings Time.

Terry! Can I have multiple switch out power again? tongue
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:22 AM

1042 daily challenges were completed yesterday.

The whole thing seems to be working remarkably well. Hope people are enjoying it smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
Terry! Can I have multiple switch out power again? tongue


I want this back too!! Pretty please with sugar on top? laugh tongue
Posted by: James25

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:34 AM

Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?
Posted by: Matthew_07

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:35 AM

The easy challenge requires me to post a question on AskFT. I posted, and got the green complete/tick mark. But my question is not shown in AskFT. I have also double checked on My Qns and it's not there also. Is this intentional?
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:36 AM


Quote:
[/quote]How do you suggest it gets reworded?

It makes sense to me the way it is. You do have to find them, by purchasing challenges. The badge is clearly marked as being part of the Daily Challenges, so it makes sense that it is connected to those, and not part of the rest of the site. I don't see how the current wording is a problem. I also don't know how it could be reworded and still get the same point across.




FIND means SEARCH not PURCHASE.

You are not finding them anywhere - you are buying challenges and hoping to get given one.

Find implies a scavenger hunt type situation where you go looking for them.

The Daily Challenges are part of the rest of the site - they are all things you do there. I don't see ho you can possibly think it's NOT connected to it.

It needs rewording to get a DIFFERENT point across - that's my point.

I suggest it gets reworded to explain how you get given one.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Midget40
FIND means SEARCH not PURCHASE.

You are not finding them anywhere - you are buying challenges and hoping to get given one.

Find implies a scavenger hunt type situation where you go looking for them.

The Daily Challenges are part of the rest of the site - they are all things you do there. I don't see ho you can possibly think it's NOT connected to it.

It needs rewording to get a DIFFERENT point across - that's my point.

I suggest it gets reworded to explain how you get given one.


Perhaps I don't see the problem because I've been testing it for the last month and it makes perfect sense to me what is going on. What I meant by my question, was, come up with a sentence of your own that you think would make sense to someone else in your situation, and post that for others to see. Like I said, I don't see the problem because I know how it works (I've lived it every day for the past few weeks).

Also, I find "I don't see how you can possibly think it's NOT connected to it." to be quite offensive.

Since you're inquiring, however, by "not connected" I mean that where you see the badges listed is the "Daily Challenges" page, not in some game somewhere else, or only on the main challenges. they are directly under a link to an FAQ, which people new to the challenges should be reading anyway. A ton of questions are answered there, including how you get Epic challenges. Also, though the challenges themselves lead you to other parts of the site, the badges are directly linked only to the Daily Challenges.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: James25
Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?


Yes, it's meant to be. Some of the more prolific authors might have forgotten the answers to their own quizzes smile
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:42 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Originally Posted By: James25
Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?


Yes, it's meant to be. Some of the more prolific authors might have forgotten the answers to their own quizzes smile


So, the score will count?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:43 AM

I purchased my first new challenge today, and it worked exactly like it is supposed to work. My switch also worked like intended, and it successfully recorded my completion of the new challenge and gave me the credits. If only I was better at "Who am I?" and "Crystal Ball" I could have had 7 at the end of today. Alas, I will only have 6. Got an Easy challenge, when I bought a new one.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:48 AM

I have 7 done, but no badgelet yet.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: James25
Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?

Actually that is an error. Bug fixed, and new player regenerated for you.
Posted by: James25

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Originally Posted By: James25
Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?


Yes, it's meant to be. Some of the more prolific authors might have forgotten the answers to their own quizzes smile


Ok, I hope I actually remember the answers. shocked
Posted by: James25

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: James25
Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?

Actually that is an error. Bug fixed, and new player regenerated for you.


Thanks, now I will not have to embarrass myself by not knowing my own answers. laugh
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: James25
Today's easy challenge is to play a quiz authored by myself and score at least 7. Is that supposed to be like that?

Actually that is an error. Bug fixed, and new player regenerated for you.
Originally Posted By: Matthew_07
The easy challenge requires me to post a question on AskFT. I posted, and got the green complete/tick mark. But my question is not shown in AskFT. I have also double checked on My Qns and it's not there also. Is this intentional?


Hm what was the question?
Posted by: pyonir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:10 AM

My medium challenge today is "Score a cumulative total of 3922 points in the The Mixed Game hourly game today. "

Does that mean 3922 points or more? Or exactly 3922 points? Just want to make sure. :P
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: pyonir
My medium challenge today is "Score a cumulative total of 3922 points in the The Mixed Game hourly game today. "

Does that mean 3922 points or more? Or exactly 3922 points? Just want to make sure. :P


Or more. Heavens, are we testers all aliens who understand the alien language that the challenge is written in? Terry, do you think you should add an "at least" so that the humans can understand? tongue
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
Originally Posted By: pyonir
My medium challenge today is "Score a cumulative total of 3922 points in the The Mixed Game hourly game today. "

Does that mean 3922 points or more? Or exactly 3922 points? Just want to make sure. :P


Or more. Heavens, are we testers all aliens who understand the alien language that the challenge is written in? Terry, do you think you should add an "at least" so that the humans can understand? tongue


I just answered this question for someone over in the "Epic Challenges?" thread in the chat boards.

Also, Terry, or Wes, or whoever it is that is responsible. Perhaps this question could be added to the FAQ. I know that I, myself, asked this question in the testing thread early on, and it doesn't look like it made its way into the FAQ. I forgot I even asked it until now.
Posted by: pyonir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir

Or more. Heavens, are we testers all aliens who understand the alien language that the challenge is written in? Terry, do you think you should add an "at least" so that the humans can understand? tongue


Sheesh, sorry I asked. I didn't want to get over 3922 only to find it was literal, in that it had to be 3922. I guess I'm retarded, and I'll keep my stupid questions to myself.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:25 AM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
I have 7 done, but no badgelet yet.

Fixed
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:27 AM

Originally Posted By: pyonir
Sheesh, sorry I asked. I didn't want to get over 3922 only to find it was literal, in that it had to be 3922. I guess I'm retarded, and I'll keep my stupid questions to myself.


Sorry, didn't mean to sound mean. Really a joke, and I've seen that question appear, and began wondering how I figured it out myself in the first place!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:27 AM

Originally Posted By: pyonir
My medium challenge today is "Score a cumulative total of 3922 points in the The Mixed Game hourly game today. "

Does that mean 3922 points or more? Or exactly 3922 points? Just want to make sure. :P


At least. Text modified.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:13 AM

I agree that pyonir's question is not stupid when you need to be certain. I have a similar situation with a hard challenge, which says 'score a total of 'x' correct answers in a particular category'. This could mean 'exactly x' or 'at least x'. All we new participants are asking for is clarity. I'm hoping it means 'at least' in this instance, too.
Posted by: Matthew_07

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:17 AM

My question for the easy task today for AskFT is "Does drinking oral salt induce vomiting?"
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Matthew_07
My question for the easy task today for AskFT is "Does drinking oral salt induce vomiting?"

Looks like an admin deleted that.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:21 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
I agree that pyonir's question is not stupid when you need to be certain. I have a similar situation with a hard challenge, which says 'score a total of 'x' correct answers in a particular category'. This could mean 'exactly x' or 'at least x'. All we new participants are asking for is clarity. I'm hoping it means 'at least' in this instance, too.


It does. Every time a number is given, it is the lower limit. This is true for all of the challenges that require a score or a certain number of questions. You all should not feel bad about asking such questions. We testers probably have at one point or other asked them ourselves in the previous thread.

It is tough for us testers, though, to see such questions now, because of our experience with the game. Our intent while answering questions is not to tease, make fun of, or belittle the askers. No one should be made to feel in the wrong for asking a question. I, myself, asked plenty of questions in our testing thread...some of the same ones people are asking now.

I think patience is needed on both sides. We need to get used to seeing these questions again, and new players need to understand that we know how it works, and see some things as obvious (after playing for a month already) that perhaps aren't.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:24 AM

The goal is to have the challenge text to be completely unambiguous so that no one even needs to think about asking such clarifications. They are slowly being tweaked as people ask questions here.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:32 AM

Thanks for changing it, Terry. It's perfectly clear now.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
It is tough for us testers, though, to see such questions now, because of our experience with the game. Our intent while answering questions is not to tease, make fun of, or belittle the askers. No one should be made to feel in the wrong for asking a question. I, myself, asked plenty of questions in our testing thread...some of the same ones people are asking now.

I think patience is needed on both sides. We need to get used to seeing these questions again, and new players need to understand that we know how it works, and see some things as obvious (after playing for a month already) that perhaps aren't.


Yeah, kad is right. Sorry again if that's what people thought from my post earlier.

BTW, K, what happened to "going to bed now"? tongue
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
BTW, K, what happened to "going to bed now"? tongue


Yeah, can't sleep...not for lack of trying though...too much going on in my head right now I guess...and I took a nap earlier this afternoon, so that might have something to do with it. tongue
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:48 AM

Added FAQ entry to clarify that when a challenge does neither specify "at least" nor "exactly" with some number, it does not have to be an exact match, just to be on the safe side.
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:55 AM

"Rank #1 in your division in any hourly game." Does this include the International Games? They're listed as Hourly in the Games dropdown menu.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 05:00 AM

I don't think so, Julia - it means Easy, Mixed, Smartest, Obscurity, FMI, Word, Expert, and Quiz of the Hour (I hope I haven't forgotten one).
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 05:05 AM

Easy, Mixed, Smartest, Obscurity, FMI, Word, Expert are the seven eligible ones for this game. Quiz of the Hour doesn't have rankings and the international game is not considered an hourly.

Edit: Added the list to FAQ since it's quite lengthy for adding to challenge texts.
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 05:30 AM

Thanks Wesley. I thought it was too good to be true when I ended up at the top of the list for an International game that I had played for a different challenge. (I generally use the dropdown to go to the different games, so tbe way it's indicated there is what led to my confusion.)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:01 AM

And the first epic challenge has been assigned to someone on their first challenge buy...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
And the first epic challenge has been assigned to someone on their first challenge buy...


Which flag is it?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:16 AM

I'm more interested to know who the lucky gentleman or lady is.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:17 AM

We should be able to see both answers on their profile once they make it. It's not me, unfortunately - I got a doable 7th so I can grab that badgelet, but it was nowhere near epic.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
We should be able to see both answers on their profile once they make it. It's not me, unfortunately - I got a doable 7th so I can grab that badgelet, but it was nowhere near epic.


I'll only get 7 today if I get lucky in the Crystal Ball, which I'm not expecting. I've got 6 complete though, so even without Crystal Ball I'll snag the badgelet first thing tomorrow morning.
Posted by: CliftonClowers

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:55 AM

I got an epic on my first buy and wished I hadn't. From following the testing thread I knew that particular challenge was coming and the numbers that were being discussed for various levels. I have been religiously adding my 6 scores every day to see what I was capable of in comparison to those numbers. I know for certain that taking my best scores over a couple week period in each game and then adding them wouldn't equal my target number.

I also found out you can't substitute out an epic. I guess epic is a truly fitting description of this challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 11:06 AM

Clifton -- not to worry. I am keeping stats for all completion rates of all challenges. If it turns out some are too easy or too difficult, they will be tweaked over time.

The idea for them to be very difficult, but certainly not impossible to achieve.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 11:17 AM

Originally Posted By: CliftonClowers
I got an epic on my first buy and wished I hadn't. From following the testing thread I knew that particular challenge was coming and the numbers that were being discussed for various levels. I have been religiously adding my 6 scores every day to see what I was capable of in comparison to those numbers. I know for certain that taking my best scores over a couple week period in each game and then adding them wouldn't equal my target number.

I also found out you can't substitute out an epic. I guess epic is a truly fitting description of this challenge.


I remember trying the Epic you got. As I recall, I missed it by a mere 3 incorrect answers...less than 200pts.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 11:50 AM

Clifton -- turns out there was a bug in your epic requirements. Check now for the corrected. Still high, but certainly better...
Posted by: CliftonClowers

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 11:59 AM

Thanks, Terry.

That is certainly achievable if I play well. If not I don't deserve it anyway.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:05 PM

If, for some reason, I manage today's Epic challenge, will I get points if I get the same challenge again, in the future? (I know I won't get another flag.)
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:08 PM

An earlier posting mentioned that the Newest Mixed Quizzes were part of the challenges. Before the Home Page redo a couple of months ago that area was titled "Newest Mixed Quizzes" but that is no longer there. Any chance of getting that FTquizbot quiz area retitled?
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:09 PM

Along the same line of pyonir's earlier question, I got a medium challenge today which requires me to "Score 356 points in today's daily New Question Game." Just mentioning it so it can be added to the list if you're planning on changing all of these, Terry.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:19 PM

postcards, yes. You always get the 8 credits if you complete an epic. (We pay you back most of what you invested at least.)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:25 PM

"Newest Mixed Quizzes" is at the top, under the "Quizzes" section:

http://www.funtrivia.com/
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:49 PM

My Home Page view under QUIZZES has Tabs for New, What's Up, Photo, Popular, Team, Puzzles, and Find. No mention of Newest Mixed. I know by going to the Newest Quizzes list page that the quizzes below the Newest member authored ones are the Mixed from the Quizbot. But, it isn't labeled. A neophyte on the site might not know to go there for Newest Mixed since there is nothing titled that way anymore on the site. Not even in the Quiz drop down menu.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 12:54 PM

I'm not sure if this will help you or anyone (or if I'm just repeating what you said), but below the tabs for "New, What's Up...", there are 6 authored quizzes. Below those are two columns of 3 quizzes each. There are 3 links beside each of the 6 quizzes "Play", "HTML", and "Scores".
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:03 PM

Quote:
Before the Home Page redo a couple of months ago that area was titled "Newest Mixed Quizzes" but that is no longer there.


Quote:
A neophyte on the site might not know to go there for Newest Mixed since there is nothing titled that way anymore on the site.


???

That title appears in the middle of the homepage. Right now, that section is above the Charity: Water blurb and under the new quizzes (if you don't change the tab).
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:03 PM

Im stumped mehaul.... I log in as you and I see those columns right under the Quiz section on the homepage. I think that section is only hidden if you connect from a phone.

Any chance you can get a screen shot and save it somewhere?

Thanks
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
My Home Page view under QUIZZES has Tabs for New, What's Up, Photo, Popular, Team, Puzzles, and Find. No mention of Newest Mixed. I know by going to the Newest Quizzes list page that the quizzes below the Newest member authored ones are the Mixed from the Quizbot. But, it isn't labeled. A neophyte on the site might not know to go there for Newest Mixed since there is nothing titled that way anymore on the site. Not even in the Quiz drop down menu.


The quizzes can all be accessed directly from the Homepage. You don't have to click a tab or anything. You mention tabs, where it says "New", "What's Up?", etc. Just below the box that has the newest quizzes online (the tan box, ya know?) There is, bolded and underlined "Newest Mixed Quizzes - new one every couple of hrs!" Listed here, right now, are an Entertainment Mix, Harder Religion Mix, Humanities Mix, Tricky Mix of Everything, Harder General Knowledge, and Harder People Mix. There is no need to click on anything to see them. All you do is click the blue Play button to play.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:26 PM

I love the challenges so far. My one complaint would be a challenge tied to something like Busy Bee which is not necessarily available. I am willing to accept that I will miss certain challenges when Flash is not available to me personally, but the Busy Bee one seems a bit more like Brigadoon, lol.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:28 PM

I know where they are. They are some of my favorite plays. I even go to the Newest overall list page and search out the three or four that preceeded the current displayed six. But I know they are there because I played them when they were titled "Newest Mixed Quizzes" before the redo. I see two columns of three each, just above the Charity: Water box. But nowhere does it spell out "Newest Mixed".
Screen shot? Haven't done that before. I love to learn. I view using a Dell running Windows XP serpk3, IEver8.0.6001.18702 with cipher strength 128 bit.
I did a browser task of Select all on the home page, clicked copy and will send that in a PM to Terry (okay?). Since it displays the left column first the area about Quizzes with Tabs is about half a full scroll down.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
I know where they are. They are some of my favorite plays. I even go to the Newest overall list page and search out the three or four that preceeded the current displayed six. But I know they are there because I played them when they were titled "Newest Mixed Quizzes" before the redo. I see two columns of three each, just above the Charity: Water box. But nowhere does it spell out "Newest Mixed".


Directly atop the left-hand column of three, it says "Newest Mixed Quizzes - new one every couple of hrs!", just like I said in my previous message. This text separates the tan box from the double-three columns of mixed quizzes.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:49 PM

"New What's Up? Photo Best Popular Team Puzzles Find
Quote:
The Movies of Tom Hanks (Hanks, Tom) 3 hrs ago
A Rainbow of Movies - Colorful Titles ( Something in Common) 5 hrs ago
The Kids Are NOT All Right! (Horror Mixture) 14 hrs ago
P.S. Longer Letter Later (Danziger, Paula) 17 hrs ago
"America's Next Top Model" - Cycle 2 (America's Next Top Model) 19 hrs ago
Flight of the Conchords (Flight of the Conchords) 21 hrs ago
Show More


Newest Mixed Quizzes - new one every couple of hrs!
Entertainment Mix: Play - HTML - Scores
Humanities Mix: Play - HTML - Scores
Harder General Knowledge: Play - HTML - Scores

Harder Religion Mix: Play - HTML - Scores
Tricky Mix of Everything: Play - HTML - Scores
Harder People Mix: Play - HTML - Scores

We did it! Thanks to your contributions, we have raised our $5000 goal for Charity: Water. That is enough for the charity to install a well system for a village in a country of need. We will keep our donation page open for the duration of our campaign (8 days) in case anyone would like to raise our total. Thanks for helping us make a difference. Our Donation Page >>"

This is what mine basically looks like (can't do the two column thing, but put them on top of each other).
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:54 PM

You have it. I don't and maybe others don't either! If you are missing something, how is one to know logically? There are no default signs in this universe noting information should be here but isn't, no matter what Hawking says about info and event horizons.
I've toggled the IE8's compatibility view with no change in what was displayed. I've done a mouse button hold over the entire area to see if highlighting made the words "Newest Mixed" come into view with no luck in the result.

Edit: I normally have my zoom set for 125% for vision reasons. I set the zoom back to 100% and still no "Newest Mixed" words appeared. Zooming sometimes plays with 'wrap-around' settings in HTML (si?) but not this time. Is this related to the displaced New Chat Posts text being thrown to the right side of that area's box every so often that a roll over corrects? (which also began with the Home Page redo)
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:56 PM

How do you get the heading, kaddarsgirl?
When I look at the Mixed Quizzes, I don't get the "Newest Mixed Quizzes - new one every couple of hrs!" message. I know where on the main page they are; there just happens to be no heading.

The problem mehaul might be facing is that (like me) the 6 mixed quizzes are listed, there is just no heading unlike what kaddarsgirl apparently views when she visits the main page.

EDIT: mehaul posted while I was typing.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
You have it. I don't and maybe others don't either! If you are missing something, haw is one to know logically? There are no default signs in this universe noting information should be here but isn't, no matter what Hawking says about info and event horizons.
I've toggled the IE8's compatibility view with no change in what was displayed. I've done a mouse button hold over the entire area to see if highlighting made the words "Newest Mixed" come into view with no luck in the result.


I'm not attacking you, mehaul! I'm showing you where it is on my page, so you know where it is supposed to be on yours, since it appears that it is not there.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
How do you get the heading, kaddarsgirl?


I don't know, it's just always been there.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:05 PM

I have the heading as well. The section doesn't show up at all on my iPad, but on a laptop I have always had the header as well.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:09 PM

This is what it looks like:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2co4foz.jpg


Mehaul, on your keyboard, probably somewhere along the top line, there will be a key that says "PrntScr". If you depress that key it will save a picture of the screen to the clipboard. Then open a picture editor - Windows Paint will do - and use CTRL +V to paste the image; then edit and save.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 02:47 PM

I was hoping to get an epic on my first buy today, to be one of the first, but I'm actually going to hold out and try to be the first winner of a different badge instead. wink
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:02 PM

Thank you for the lesson Flopsymopsy. I may have this the wrong size for the UBB thread. Trial and error is also a way of learning. I need to work on the presentation but this shows there is no Title in the quizbot area.

http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy327/mutantnoggins/homepage2.jpg

Edit to change the image. The first showed too much of my Windows taskbar and browser taskbars. If Terry needs to see it better I can get him the other address ed image. This one works fair when you zoom in on the image.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:07 PM

No title in mine ~~

http://i49.tinypic.com/2055q9i.jpg
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:08 PM

mehaul, your page looks totally different than mine. I don't have little arrow pull-downs (and my list of links are in a continuous, not segmented box), and my profile/logout links are in the same box as challenges/buzz/mail (crammed all the way over on the right).

So weird...
Posted by: maninmidohio

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:11 PM

My East challenge today is: Play quiz Most Popular UK No 1 Singles: 61 - 70 and score at least 346 points using Quiz Game mode.

When I go to game mode I get: Error 3 Loading: http://www.funtrivia.com/ubbthreads/forumimages.uk -flag.gif

I have played other quizzes in game mode today and after getting error other quizzes do work in that mode.
Posted by: Booklover17

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:14 PM

I am trying to complete the Medium task - "Use Quiz game mode to score 2561 pts in Hobbies, Music and For Children". I have played 2 quizzes in the Music section today but it has not credited me in the challenge, only on my daily points total.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Booklover17
I am trying to complete the Medium task - "Use Quiz game mode to score 2561 pts in Hobbies, Music and For Children". I have played 2 quizzes in the Music section today but it has not credited me in the challenge, only on my daily points total.


Are you sure you're playing the "game" mode, not "flash" mode? When you go to a quiz, you should be clicking "Play: Quiz Game".
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
mehaul, your page looks totally different than mine. I don't have little arrow pull-downs (and my list of links are in a continuous, not segmented box), and my profile/logout links are in the same box as challenges/buzz/mail (crammed all the way over on the right).

So weird...


Mehaul's seems very stretched out to me. For example, the "We did it" thank you is two lines on his, while on mine and Flopsy's it is three lines. Mine seems much more compressed. Maybe that is part of the issue.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
mehaul, your page looks totally different than mine. I don't have little arrow pull-downs (and my list of links are in a continuous, not segmented box), and my profile/logout links are in the same box as challenges/buzz/mail (crammed all the way over on the right).

So weird...


Mehaul's seems very stretched out to me. For example, the "We did it" thank you is two lines on his, while on mine and Flopsy's it is three lines. Mine seems much more compressed. Maybe that is part of the issue.


My page looks just like flopsymopsy's. At least from what I can tell from the screen shot she posted.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:24 PM

Rap up that autowrap and rap a head with it. Javawrapanewey might erupt this gift season, you watch! Predicted here First.
No, auto-wrap should still present all the text, I think, displacing, not deleting some of it
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:30 PM

Totally unrelated question, but while it's being brought up.

Do these hourly mixed quizzes count towards my quiz play statistics, and the chart on my profile?

On topic, now.
Booklover, I have that challenge as well, and I've had no problems. I had People, Celebrities, and For Children, and less points total, but they all counted like they should of.
Posted by: Booklover17

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:36 PM

Ahh!!! If I had just read the instructions more carefully I would have seen that myself. Thanks for your help!
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:36 PM

I thought it might be an IE display issue but when I tried it in IE it worked fine. What version of IE are you using? (And if it's anything less than v10 don't use it, there are huge security issues with previous versions.)

Mehaul, your screen resolution doesn't look proportional, it must give you a very skewed view of a lot of websites.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: maninmidohio
My East challenge today is: Play quiz Most Popular UK No 1 Singles: 61 - 70 and score at least 346 points using Quiz Game mode.

When I go to game mode I get: Error 3 Loading: http://www.funtrivia.com/ubbthreads/forumimages.uk -flag.gif

I have played other quizzes in game mode today and after getting error other quizzes do work in that mode.


Try now. Fixed a bug with the image of that quiz. Funny how I'm running into lots of really ancient bugs as people explore the far reaches of the site with these challenges.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:21 PM

Actually, it's even weirder - postie and mehaul still see something resembling the old homepage design with the rectangular boxes (no rounded corners).

Could this be a style sheet issue? Postie's browser status bar says "Done, but with errors on page", so I could imagine a CSS incompatibility with some specific IE version.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:23 PM

According to web logs, mehaul's browser:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

Postcards:


Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)

Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
mehaul, your page looks totally different than mine. I don't have little arrow pull-downs (and my list of links are in a continuous, not segmented box), and my profile/logout links are in the same box as challenges/buzz/mail (crammed all the way over on the right).

So weird...

This is because mehaul has pull-downs menus on, and you probably have them off.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:34 PM

Heh try now... mehaul / post....
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:42 PM

A total of 4 epics underway today. Appears all 4 will fail.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:44 PM

Yay Javascript hide 1+-4 or whatever fixed it for me. Where's the nearest Lotto office?(I feel lucky)
Thanks from me and, if I may presume, the others who didn't even know we were missing something.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 04:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
A total of 4 epics underway today. Appears all 4 will fail.


Aww...that's too bad frown
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Heh try now... mehaul / post....


Yup, it's there, now. Thanks smile
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
A total of 4 epics underway today. Appears all 4 will fail.


Yes, it appears I will, but not for lack of trying! tongue
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 08:08 PM

It says I completed my epic, but no flag?

Edit because I'm impatient: Sorry... I see it now. Just so excited, that I lost my patience! crazy
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 08:54 PM

One of my teammates (who is not a regular visitor here in "the Strand") got this challenge today:

Point scramble! Use Quiz Game mode to score 2895 points taking player quizzes in each of the following categories: Religion, Music, General

Does this mean that she needs to get at least 2895 in total by playing in only those three categories? Or does she need to get at least 2895 in EACH of the three categories, for a total of a least 2895x3=8685?

(and yes I realise that the answer could be found out by actually playing it and if it doesn't show complete after the first 2895+ points, then keep on going lol - but perhaps the wording could be slightly more explicit please? It's quite a difference in time commitment/planning if you don't know for certain at the onset).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
One of my teammates (who is not a regular visitor here in "the Strand") got this challenge today:

Point scramble! Use Quiz Game mode to score 2895 points taking player quizzes in each of the following categories: Religion, Music, General

Does this mean that she needs to get at least 2895 in total by playing in only those three categories? Or does she need to get at least 2895 in EACH of the three categories, for a total of a least 2895x3=8685?


Like it says, "in each of the following categories", the points given must be won for each category, so 2895+ in Religion, 2895+ in Music, and 2895+ in General. Remember that this is "Game Mode" not "Flash" or "HTML", so it's Game Points, not FT Points that count. 4 pretty good scores in each category would meet the requirements.

On a 10 point quiz, taking 5 seconds per question to answer in Game Mode, equates to a Game Point total of 950. So, 950 + 950 +950 = 2850. Great scores will get the requirement in 3 quizzes of 10 Q apiece. More average scores will get it done in 4 quizzes, assuming you can get all 10 questions correct in each quiz.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: postcards2go
It says I completed my epic, but no flag?

Edit because I'm impatient: Sorry... I see it now. Just so excited, that I lost my patience! crazy

Congratulations on being the first person to win one of the Epic Challenge mini-badges!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 09:28 PM

Buddy1, it is not necessary to be a Gold Member to win the Black Flag.

Well, you edited your question while I was answering you...but I'll leave my response anyway.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 09:53 PM

I appreciate your opinion, kaddarsgirl and I fully realise you're just trying to be helpful. But I have an opinion on what was "meant" by the task as well - and quite frankly, my hope for a more definitive description of the challenge at hand wasn't addressed to you : )
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 09:57 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Buddy1, it is not necessary to be a Gold Member to win the Black Flag.

Well, you edited your question while I was answering you...but I'll leave my response anyway.

I originally wrote the question you answered, but I got to thinking of several reasons why I shouldn't post it. One was "am I going to ask it every time someone win a mini-badge?" and so I decided to edit my comment, so either I wouldn't be tempted to ask the question again or so people wouldn't think I was planning on asking that question every single time. Another was "perhaps it is too much", so I'll just forget it apparently forgetting that the worst that could happen was someone saying "Sorry, can't answer that. That is part of what makes this challenge epic".

By the way, just so it's clear to anyone who wants to know my original question (there might be a few who can't deduce it for the response), my question was "I hope this isn't asking too much (and if it's not and you still don't wish to answer, that's okay), but was being a gold member necessary in getting this mini-badge?"
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 09:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
I appreciate your opinion, kaddersgirl and I fully realise you're just trying to be helpful. But I have an opinion on what was "meant" by the task as well - and quite frankly, my hope for a more definitive description of the challenge at hand wasn't addressed to you : )


There is no need to be rude, Jakeroo. You asked a question and I knew the answer, so I told you the answer. I am sorry if you feel that my answer to your question was not sufficient.

Edit: Also, what I wrote was not an opinion, it was experience. I have played many challenges like that one over the past month while doing testing for this new game. I know what the challenge is asking for, because I've completed it before.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:22 PM

Despite your assumptions as to my "intent", EVERY one of us has been invited by Terry to suggest possible changes to the descriptions so that there will be less ambiguity in the long long run. I have little doubt that your perception of the task, since you were a tester, is correct - but I DO think that the description, as written, is NOT entirely clear in that sentence as to what EXACTLY is expected.

and btw, I'm a jill not a jack lol
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:28 PM

Will tweak the description.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
Despite your assumptions as to my "intent", EVERY one of us has been invited by Terry to suggest possible changes to the descriptions so that there will be less ambiguity in the long long run. I have little doubt that your perception of the task, since you were a tester, is correct - but I DO think that the description, as written, is NOT entirely clear in that sentence as to what EXACTLY is expected.

and btw, I'm a jill not a jack lol


Sorry, the name was a typo. I also didn't mention anything about changing the wording of the question. If it needs to be changed it will, and Wes or Terry will deal with that, which is why I didn't touch that part of your post at all (I have no control over this, and if you think it needs reworded that is definitely valid, and I never said, or implied otherwise).

What I was answering in my post, was the original question you asked: "Does this mean that she needs to get at least 2895 in total by playing in only those three categories? Or does she need to get at least 2895 in EACH of the three categories, for a total of a least 2895x3=8685?" That was all.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 10:31 PM

Thanks Terry : )))
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Sep 25 2012 11:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Try now. Fixed a bug with the image of that quiz. Funny how I'm running into lots of really ancient bugs as people explore the far reaches of the site with these challenges.


You know the old saying. There are old Bugs. There are bold bugs. But there are no old bold bugs (excluding the roaches of course!).
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:07 AM

I can;t reach my twin's profile from the challenges page because there's a '.html' missing from the end of the link URL.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:17 AM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
I can;t reach my twin's profile from the challenges page because there's a '.html' missing from the end of the link URL.


I have the same problem, I think...with the link to the name by the scores. The one on the left in the actual challenge text worked though.
Posted by: James25

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 01:00 AM

Sigh, trying to complete a crossword, but as happens so often to me, it does not want to budge. Checked and double checked. All is correct, but still no movement, wherever I click.

Edit: worked the second time around with exactly the same words, strange.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: James25
Sigh, trying to complete a crossword, but as happens so often to me, it does not want to budge. Checked and double checked. All is correct, but still no movement, wherever I click.


Maybe try deleting a letter and retyping it in. Sometimes that helps for me, for the few crosswords that I've played. Other times, there is more than one option for a line, and I choose the wrong one, or a typo.

Edit: Oh, glad it worked! smile
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 01:09 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
I can;t reach my twin's profile from the challenges page because there's a '.html' missing from the end of the link URL.


I have the same problem, I think...with the link to the name by the scores. The one on the left in the actual challenge text worked though.


Same problem here, but the link on the left does work.
Posted by: Rowena8482

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:42 AM

For the challenge involving playing Mind Melt in Timed mode, will it count if I play "old style timed" or must it be Timed from the larger link beside Untimed?
(Oh and what is the difference between new timed style and the old style, if anyone can be bothered to tell me - I haven't played it since it was a new game and have no idea what to expect if I hit Timed now...)
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:47 AM

New style gives you the options on the left as a drop-down from which to select after you click one of the right-hand entries (for the second and third parts only). Depending on your technique for making the matches, you may find it extremely useful, or irritating.

That doesn't answer your first question, to which I don't know the answer.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:01 AM

Either timed mode will work. The difference is not in scoring, just in presentation.
Posted by: Muzzyhill3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:35 AM

I was given credit in the medium challenge - WhoamI score of 855 or more I think, in difficult mode - before I had completed WhoamI. I have subsequently achieved the challenge hurdle.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:36 AM

I play old style, as I find the new version doesn't suit my way of playing. I can verify that the score counts, because I had that challenge today, too (and got lucky). On the other hand, my difficult challenge is for a game I rarely play, and I'm quickly finding out why I decided to drop it from my repertoire. At least it's an hourly, so there's still time, although I suspect my patience may run out before the games available do.
Posted by: navaho56

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:37 AM

At a loss here, completed the "7 done" category yesterday now on to epic. Am I due a badgelet for this as none received ?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:50 AM

Navaho, you don't yet have 7 complete. Your play record shows 2 easy, 2 medium and 2 difficult won - that makes 6, not 7.

If you win the epic (which is still possible although you'll need a really good score in the last one), you will complete your 7th challenge and get both badgelets. Otherwise, you'll need to win one more tomorrow for 7.
Posted by: invinoveritas

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:55 AM

I did my challenge yesterday, collected 9 credits but no green tick or badgelet. Is there a hold up?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:07 AM

invinoveritas, I don't see an issue. You do have three challenges complete yesterday and five total. Once you have completed two more, the 9 credits can buy you one more challenge if you want to play more (and hope for an epic).

To win the badgelet, you need seven challenges completed, not just seven credits. Do two of today's and your badgelet will appear.
Posted by: dsimpy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 06:13 AM

This isn't a 'bug' as such but a concern about the practicality of one of the 'harder' challenges (may well end up sounding egotistical but isn't meant to be!) ...

I changed my harder challenge today and as a replacement got 'win a game in your division of Word Wizard'. Happy days for me, as I quite often do (and had already done today, so the challenge was achieved retrospectively).

But it struck me that the Champs division of WW (in particular) is won A LOT by a FAIRLY SMALL NUMBER of active players (of which I'm one - that's the potentially egotistical bit!) and will be very difficult to achieve for many (most?) Champion division players.

I know that 'hard' is meant to mean hard, but I wonder if it's just a bit on the frustrating side of the line and is going to exacerbate other players' annoyance at people who continuously win some of the hourly games. Personally I'd be happy to stand aside now and again for a game or two if someone PMed me saying they were going for the challenge - but I neither want to give up the game altogether, or be a persistent obstacle to other players in the separate Daily Challenge game.

(There may be other games that the same situation will arise in, but it's probably particularly true of Word Wizard.)

Edit to say: Would 'finish in the top three of a game of Word Wizard in your division' still be genuinely hard without being frustrating? smilee
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 06:37 AM

One of my ambitions is to beat dsimpy in WW one day. In many attempts, I've failed every time, so I hope that challenge doesn't appear for me too soon. I don't get annoyed or frustrated normally, as I admire his ability, but I might if I have that challenge to meet!
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 06:54 AM

I can't have got that in testing or I'd certainly have moaned! Top in Word champions' division is not a challenge, it's impossible. Top three is asking a bit much too, lol.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 07:00 AM

I just spent credits to get a new challenge.
It took away the credits, but didn't give me a challenge???
Posted by: navaho56

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 07:01 AM

Cheers Wes, still coming to terms with the format.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 07:50 AM

Never mind Word Wizard, here's mine for the day lol:

"Feeling psychic today? Your goal is to win an hour of the Crystal Ball game by guessing the secret word!"

This whole challenge thing looks like it's going to be a HOOT. Am sure there will be loads of "swapouts" over the course of time for tasks that don't seem "do-able" for whatever reason : )
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 07:59 AM

Originally Posted By: postcards2go
I just spent credits to get a new challenge.
It took away the credits, but didn't give me a challenge???


I see 4 challenges under your challenge list...... ??
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:08 AM

Originally Posted By: dsimpy
This isn't a 'bug' as such but a concern about the practicality of one of the 'harder' challenges (may well end up sounding egotistical but isn't meant to be!) ...



I understand what you're saying. I looked back at my word wizard history and found the best I'd scored was 4th. I can imagine myself muttering, "No, not again," but my thinking is that we can't expect to win every challenge every day, otherwise it's not a challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Muzzyhill3
I was given credit in the medium challenge - WhoamI score of 855 or more I think, in difficult mode - before I had completed WhoamI. I have subsequently achieved the challenge hurdle.


Just making sure I understand. You gained credit for this one before ever even starting Who am I today?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:14 AM

Originally Posted By: dsimpy
This isn't a 'bug' as such but a concern about the practicality of one of the 'harder' challenges (may well end up sounding egotistical but isn't meant to be!) ...

Interesting you point that one out, because I had reservations when I added it that it might be too hard. I think it would make a great epic level badge, but agree that because it specifies a specific game it's too difficult.

I'm thinking of changing it to top 2 or top 3 for the future.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: postcards2go
I just spent credits to get a new challenge.
It took away the credits, but didn't give me a challenge???


I see 4 challenges under your challenge list...... ??


Sorry, Terry. I see it now :-)
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry

Interesting you point that one out, because I had reservations when I added it that it might be too hard. I think it would make a great epic level badge, but agree that because it specifies a specific game it's too difficult.

I'm thinking of changing it to top 2 or top 3 for the future.


Top 3 Terry, pleeeeease, it really is tough in there.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
Never mind Word Wizard, here's mine for the day lol:

"Feeling psychic today? Your goal is to win an hour of the Crystal Ball game by guessing the secret word!"

This whole challenge thing looks like it's going to be a HOOT. Am sure there will be loads of "swapouts" over the course of time for tasks that don't seem "do-able" for whatever reason : )


Crikey! That one is certainly crazily difficult, except for the couple of people who sit there with an online dictionary program every hour in order to clock up yet another victory!

But I guess the point of these challenges is that no-one should expect to complete all three every day. At the moment, it's a bit frantic as all the badge tarts are going all out to win everything as quickly as possible, but it'll all calm down with time.

I swapped out yesterday to get rid of a challenge to win the Buzzy Bee scavenger hunt, which would have meant playing endless examples of those tedious "Follow My Directions" brain twist quizzes, which would have rotted my brain after about halfway through the third quiz!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:57 AM

Yeah I kinda like the crystal ball one. It's certainly incredibly tough, but I like it for variety's sake.

The "top score" one is not particularly unique, so shouldn't be quite so impossible.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 09:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
Never mind Word Wizard, here's mine for the day lol:

"Feeling psychic today? Your goal is to win an hour of the Crystal Ball game by guessing the secret word!"

This whole challenge thing looks like it's going to be a HOOT. Am sure there will be loads of "swapouts" over the course of time for tasks that don't seem "do-able" for whatever reason : )


That said, it looks as if you just did it! Well done! What is a canebreak, anyway?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 09:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
Never mind Word Wizard, here's mine for the day lol:

"Feeling psychic today? Your goal is to win an hour of the Crystal Ball game by guessing the secret word!"

This whole challenge thing looks like it's going to be a HOOT. Am sure there will be loads of "swapouts" over the course of time for tasks that don't seem "do-able" for whatever reason : )


I was given this one yesterday to complete. I failed miserably, as is my usual. I knew it was going to happen. I could have swapped it out, except I failed my Medium early on and chose to swap that one out instead. I actually was psychic one day during testing and won it, though! Personally, I fount it to be the most difficult of all the challenges, Epics included. Still fun to try....but very frustrating.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 09:26 AM

Originally Posted By: postcards2go
Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: postcards2go
I just spent credits to get a new challenge.
It took away the credits, but didn't give me a challenge???


I see 4 challenges under your challenge list...... ??


Sorry, Terry. I see it now :-)


This same thing happened to me in testing, where I bought a ton of challenges and none appeared to show up. I navigated away from the challenge page, and came back and they were there. Sometimes I think it's just a loading thing, and you have to give it time to show up before panicking (I did, too, the first time it happened).
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 09:31 AM

I've added an intermediary screen on buys now which should prevent any potential caching issues.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 09:55 AM

Terry, on the new addition to the challenge page:

"Challenges Complete: 9, Credits earned: 7"

Can these two possibly be flipped? I think knowing how many credits you have available is more important, because it affects the game (buying challenges), where as the other number does not. I first read this as I have 9 credits earned (which I knew wasn't right), but because that number was first, I was confused until I noticed that the credits were actually on the right, and I only had 7 (which I was expecting).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 10:00 AM

I also noticed...someone said in a previous post that they had "Epic: 0" at the top of their page, and I do recall having this in testing...but I don't have it now. All mine says is:

"Completions: Easy: 4, Medium: 3, Difficult: 2
Challenges Complete: 9, Credits earned: 7"
Posted by: Daddy19

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 10:07 AM


Couple of things:

I've just received the 7 badgelet after playing an easy game. IMHO the positioning of the 'win' text in the right hand side of the frame makes the page look untidy (Screenshot: http://yfrog.com/65ur9p ). Might be better for the win text to appear above "Easy".

Also, apologies if I've missed this, but if I want to take part in Nemesis/Twin, how do I do this as I can't see anything in the FAQ about it?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 10:09 AM

The "Epic:0" display was probably removed for leading some players to believe they should get an epic every day along with the other three. (At least there was a question about that in this thread and it disappeared just after that, so I suspect that's the reason)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 10:10 AM

Daddy, once you randomly get the challenge assigned, you simply play for the goals stated in the description. (Both of them are related to scoring a certain number of points)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 10:17 AM

It displays Epic wins once you have won one.

I'm trying to keep the interface as intuitive as possible by hiding stuff you don't need to know until you need to know.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 10:25 AM

Terry, in the Twin challenge, could you add something along the lines of "anytime during the day"? While talking to my partner for today (through messages) I got the impression that my twin thought we had to finish the day with the exact same score. I already matched their score and completed the challenge, because I know how it is supposed to work, but it appears that it is somewhat confusing to others, like my partner today.

Thanks Terry!
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 11:35 AM

Stedman: Figured I might as well have a go before giving up on it, but I just about fell out of my chair when my guess was correct. I suppose it just goes to show me that seemingly impossible things can occur if you just happen to have luck on your side at the moment lol. As for "canebrake", I'd never heard of the word in my LIFE before visiting some former plantations in the "deep South" of the U.S. a few years ago. And when they said the word, I thought it was "break" too, since that seemed to make sense (after all, do thickets of sugar cane really need to stop in a hurry? And if so, where are they running to? giggles)

Anyway, I don't expect to get that lucky on other tasks and won't be heartbroken if there are many that I can't do (for instance yesterday I flunked Mind Melt by a significant margin of error lol), but I think this is a FABulous creation that will take quite some time to finish (meaning that it can be enjoyed for awhile). It looks like there will always be SOMEthing I can (try to) accomplish so that I don't feel like a complete idiot lol. It's sort of like the Great Race and Treasure all rolled into one - what could be better? Also, it's wonderful that Terry, Wes, Kyle and any other folks behind the scenes are willing to take player opinions into consideration.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 11:49 AM

Jakeroo, could you please select the numbers for this week's lottery, there's a slice of cake available for correct choices.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:00 PM

Quote:
Also, it's wonderful that Terry, Wes, Kyle and any other folks behind the scenes are willing to take player opinions into consideration.


I'm not a part of this one-- most of the other testers did more work on this one than I did. wink
Posted by: dalthor1974

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:13 PM

Can I report an error for the FAQ page of Daily Challenges, on this board?

At the question "How many credits does one need to try for the 10-a-day badge", if my calculations are correct, the number in the answer should be 144, not 146.
Posted by: Daddy19

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:14 PM

In the part C of the text for the 7 done badgelet, the link refers to "This prestigious, epic bade", however the link sends you to Daily Adventurer badge, not the Totally Epic badge.

Great addition to the site - congrats to everyone involved for their hard work in getting it online.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:53 PM

dalthor, 146 is correct:

You need to buy eight challenges.

9+12+15+18+21+24+27+30 = 156.

Of your three original ones, the difficult remains unsolved. So you get 1+2 = 3 from playing the original easy and medium, then seven more for playing 7 easy purchases.

Return of 10, so 156-10 = 146.

(The discrepancy is caused by you not being guaranteed to solve a difficult in the 8-buy case).
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Daddy19
In the part C of the text for the 7 done badgelet, the link refers to "This prestigious, epic bade", however the link sends you to Daily Adventurer badge, not the Totally Epic badge.


Fixed.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:25 PM

Will there be a cumulative list or two of who has the most challenges completed, and who has the most credits? I'd just be curious. wink
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:39 PM

I made my first purchase of a challenge, and unfortunately, it tells me to win the Busy Bee but it had already closed before I made the purchase. Guess it's just the luck of the draw, but if another one isn't opened before midnight, I won't have a chance to fulfill that challenge. Makes me feel I should have held on to my credits. smile
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:41 PM

With so many (enjoyable) random factors, such a list would be pretty meaningless as far as I can see.
Posted by: deaconblues63

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:48 PM

My difficult challenge is:

Play a new quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge.

I played "Harder General Knowledge" within 20 minutes of it going online and I scored 10/10, but I did not receive credit for completing the challenge.

I did receive credit for completing my easy and medium challenges.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: deaconblues63
My difficult challenge is:

Play a new quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge.

I played "Harder General Knowledge" within 20 minutes of it going online and I scored 10/10, but I did not receive credit for completing the challenge.

I did receive credit for completing my easy and medium challenges.


It means a player-created quiz, not a mixed quiz. The quizzes that work for the challenge appear in The Buzz with "New" next to them the instant they go online.

Terry, perhaps you should add "player-created" to the challenge description to make it clearer.
Posted by: deaconblues63

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:56 PM

Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: deaconblues63
Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.


I just noticed one went online 7 minutes ago. Good luck! smile
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 02:59 PM

Just put another online.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:08 PM

Clarified the text a bit of that one.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:17 PM

DumbZebra will be our first winner of the white flag smile
Posted by: dippo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
DumbZebra will be our first winner of the white flag smile


The first to give up?
Posted by: triviaking162

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:44 PM

laugh Nope, the first epic winner!
Posted by: triviaking162

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:51 PM

Terry, maybe this can be stickied to the top? Not that I think this thread is going anywhere, just to make it easy to find (like the other games' content issues). Just a thought since the DCs will be on for a while.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 03:56 PM

How about a change of pace on the Daily Challenge Background color, like the Monster Game has green. A nice light fuscia or lavender might work. Perhaps as a theme and apply it to the Intro & FAQ page too?
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:09 PM

Just to be awkward smile I really, really like the interface/page as it is - very clean, sharp, and smart.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:40 PM

I'm adding a 3rd partner challenge Wesley... it's in your list smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:54 PM

Ooh you mean like nemesis and twin? So exciting!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
I'm adding a 3rd partner challenge Wesley... it's in your list smile


Can't wait to try it if I ever get it!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 04:59 PM

The challenge right now is to get to the challenge page... "An unexpected error has occurred" smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:00 PM

Aaaah... now. Very very nice. I was considering the same thing already, just wanted to wait until the game is stable before suggesting it smile

Needs a name however. "Duel" ?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:03 PM

Does that mean it's more along the lines of Nemesis than Twins...?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:09 PM

Duel would work if it was a one winner / one loser thing (like Nemesis but unlike Twins).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:11 PM

Any chance of seeing another working-together one...? Like the one I suggested way back when in the other thread wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:13 PM

I need to test one other aspect of it so i will match salami/kaddar in a bit for a test.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:14 PM

Wesley -- I stuck a 3 play max on it to make it a little more strategic and less of a slog.

Don't want people who play 23 hrs a day having a massive advantage on it.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:23 PM

Not getting much bang for my credits buck so far. Two buys of 9 credits got me only two credits in return. I didn't even have to play for either extra credit either. I'd even settle for a medium or difficult challenge once in a while.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:24 PM

It IS a great game though. I just wish I got a better return.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:24 PM

Welcome to random.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:26 PM

I liken it to the world of international banking, got to lose some to lose much more. wink
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
It IS a great game though. I just wish I got a better return.


It's the luck of the draw. The one I bought was an Easy. Some people got Epics...you'll get lucky some time.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
I need to test one other aspect of it so i will match salami/kaddar in a bit for a test.


Cool challenge Terry! I got lucky with my category, sorry Salami smile I think people will really enjoy this one. I'm assuming the game chosen is random, yes, and not always the same?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:34 PM

The 3 per day is a really good idea, much better than any alternative. It also helps out those who can't be on 24/7 smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:36 PM

Will the challenge be awarded/checked at midnight, when it says it will end, or will it be scored when both tally 3, or in the current case, were one has maxed out and essentially the game is complete already?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:43 PM

Midnight right now, although I may code it for early-scoring too.

I've deleted the test challenges and put it into rotation.

Wesley has the first live challenge, against TheCrazedOne. Looks like we've got a battle there wink

TheCrazedOne: Military Matters: 1315
TheCrazedOne: Birth and Stage Name: 1467

WesleyCrusher: Chemistry: 1454
WesleyCrusher: States M: 1044
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:47 PM

No chance at a 1467 with the upcoming six even if I tried to stay up the whole night smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:48 PM

Is it always Expert or will there be other games too?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:55 PM

Always expert for that one. Creating fair match ups becomes very problematic in most other games. At least expert has the ability to give even lower level players the edge if they get the right topics.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Always expert for that one. Creating fair match ups becomes very problematic in most other games. At least expert has the ability to give even lower level players the edge if they get the right topics.


Cool. It looks like a great game! Yeah, it does seem more fair to have it be just Expert, now you've explained it.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 06:08 PM

Aah, I was in the shower during the time I was supposed to be testing? Gaah! Oh well can't wait to see it for real. :-P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 06:10 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Aah, I was in the shower during the time I was supposed to be testing? Gaah! Oh well can't wait to see it for real. :-P


You couldn't have done anything anyway salami, my best score was higher, and you'd maxed out on the games...it's going to be great though!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 06:11 PM

Oh, Terry, just though of something. Has this new game been added to the list of challenges that cannot be swapped?
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 07:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Welcome to random.


Random, Shmandom!

You mean I can't manipulate it in my favor a la the 1919 World Series?! Damn! LOL

Okay...No hard feelings from me.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
I liken it to the world of international banking, got to lose some to lose much more. wink


Reading that makes me wish I had CD's or T-Bills in 1982! Paul Volker raised interest rates to 22% back then! Oh, the return! And a safe investment, too!
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Sep 26 2012 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
I liken it to the world of international banking, got to lose some to lose much more. wink


I love the way you cut through the chaff and get straight to the point Miss flopsy! Beautiful! grin
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:05 AM

"Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."

Not good for me today, Terry. I either have to be extremely lucky in hourly games, or come up with 71 more Fun Facts, or complete 30+ Crossword puzzles...guess I'll be buying a challenge today and hoping for something better...
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:33 AM

Yikes-- hope I never get that one. I have maybe one badge attainable within a day and no more.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Yikes-- hope I never get that one. I have maybe one badge attainable within a day and no more.


Well I could have completed it three days ago (1st day of challenges), when I won "Obscure: Knowledge"...I can't imagine how people with over one hundred badges (like you) are going to fair with this one though...I only have 42 and it's going to be tough. At least I have a few options though...I might be able to quickly Google my way into one of the Dailies' Achievement badges...
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Yikes-- hope I never get that one. I have maybe one badge attainable within a day and no more.


You won't. It's not given to people over level 100 or so.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Yikes-- hope I never get that one. I have maybe one badge attainable within a day and no more.


You won't. It's not given to people over level 100 or so.


I wish I was over level 100 cry
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
I wish I was over level 100 cry


At the moment I do, too...

But then I might not have been able to test these challenges before more people were added...

And I might be thrust into higher level tournaments and groups...scary! eek
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
I wish I was over level 100 cry


At the moment I do, too...

But then I might not have been able to test these challenges before more people were added...

And I might be thrust into higher level tournaments and groups...scary! eek


Yeah, I need to stay 75 and under, but only until I get my 6 remaining Expert wins. Then I'm going for Level 100 full speed to get the chance to try those Centurion badges.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:29 AM

I have to win the Buzzy Bee a SECOND time?! I went through the having to do it once already. Why, again? It also blocks players trying to win it for the first time.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
I have to win the Buzzy Bee a SECOND time?! I went through the having to do it once already. Why, again? It also blocks players trying to win it for the first time.


You don't have to do it cubswin, if you don't want to. That's rotten luck though, getting it two days out of four. Do you still have your swap? This would be a good candidate for that if you do...
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:41 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
I have to win the Buzzy Bee a SECOND time?! I went through the having to do it once already. Why, again? It also blocks players trying to win it for the first time.


That's rotten luck though, getting it two days out of four.


I got it two days in a row, too. Use my swap the second time because I didn't want to bother about it.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:56 AM

"Score at least 25 questions correct in today's Mind Melt - using any mode."

Maybe "Mind Melt" could be a link, too? Not a big deal, but seems odd that other games have links from the challenge page, and some don't, or at least this one doesn't.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Yikes-- hope I never get that one. I have maybe one badge attainable within a day and no more.


You won't. It's not given to people over level 100 or so.


Phew wink
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:32 AM

I can always swap it. I'm already 11/11, and still have my swap left. However, why should a person have to get something they already have that's so many others are also trying to get that's pretty rare? I would be denying others who don't already have it who have been trying for that badge. It brings up the already haves vs. the have nots yet battle which I'm against. It really tilts the scales against the not have yets. I have a real philosophical problem with that. The non badge holders already are struggling to get the badge. Why do we need to make it even harder for them? It just seems wrong to me. It's tilting the playing field in a way towards the elites, and basically screwing the "regular guys". It's against who I am. A social egalitarian. The quest for the Buzzy Bee badge should be an even playing field, and this challenge badly compromises it. It's wrong, and undemocratic.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:42 AM

But the quest for the Buzzy Bee is even...first come first serve. Not everyone gets that challenge at the same time.

I am fine with having it appear more than once, personally.

As to moral views, I'm not quite sure how the Buzzy Bee has to do with that.

Anyhow, that's a long winded way of saying nothing. If there's a problem here, Terry or Wes?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:52 AM

My Intermediate challenge two days out of four has been to be one of my team's Heroes. For those of us in a highly competitive team, that is much harder than my theoretically difficult challenges have been. And I imagine that it would be even harder from someone in a large competitive team.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Difficult
Play in the Easy or Hard hourly game where the topic is...


Why not use the names of the games from the Home Page listing? Can't be for lack of space. My medium challenge today is about two dozen lines tall. I'm fairly certain the Easy one means the "Piece of Cake" but the other could be "Who's the Smartest?" or "Who's the Expert?" Are they each one of the text links to the challenge game called for? No. Some room for improvement exists on the structure of this one. Responding trial and error will answer your question evades answering the question of why they weren't referenced right in the first place.
The linked text option sounds best because there'd be no confusion to the requirement.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:26 AM

Terry, I am grabbing a mountain? smile

("You take a peak and notice...")

returning the favor of the scrambled language processor
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 04:11 AM

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
I can always swap it. I'm already 11/11, and still have my swap left. However, why should a person have to get something they already have that's so many others are also trying to get that's pretty rare? I would be denying others who don't already have it who have been trying for that badge. It brings up the already haves vs. the have nots yet battle which I'm against. It really tilts the scales against the not have yets. I have a real philosophical problem with that. The non badge holders already are struggling to get the badge. Why do we need to make it even harder for them? It just seems wrong to me. It's tilting the playing field in a way towards the elites, and basically screwing the "regular guys". It's against who I am. A social egalitarian. The quest for the Buzzy Bee badge should be an even playing field, and this challenge badly compromises it. It's wrong, and undemocratic.


I completely disagree that it's an ethical or democratic problem.

It is a level playing field.

There's no advantage in having already won the badge. There's always going to be more than one person chasing the badge, even without the daily challenge.

In triathlon you play against people who already have the badge. In every game you play, you are playing against people who may not need points or badges and are just playing for Fun. It's just the nature of quizzes.

Posted by: dippo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 04:28 AM

One of my challenges today is:

"Score a cumulative total of at least xxx questions correct playing player-created quizzes."

I've just played Brain Twist, and they didn't count; it is clearly a player created quiz, so should it count? Is it a problem with the points not being counted towards daily totals because it awards the Brain Twist reward?
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
I can't have got that in testing or I'd certainly have moaned! Top in Word champions' division is not a challenge, it's impossible. Top three is asking a bit much too, lol.


I've been thinking about this and I agree.

I got put into the Champion's division after winning the monthly badge but I won that in the first month I played, so by no means am I an experienced or champion player.

In that month I came first only a couple of times out of the hundreds I played. In the champions division it would take a miracle as the first player is often in the 30 seconds range and even the first handful of players are often under 45 seconds.

Perhaps it's fairer to put a certain time - 15 right in 45 seconds or less, for example? Still very difficult but at least it's not utterly reliant on a number of champion players just not playing that hour?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 04:42 AM

Chavs, neat idea but not really possible since this is a challenge with a variable part - it is "Win your division in [random hourly game]".

It can't thus be changed just for that one game. However this also means that it should be very rare when it comes to actually asking for Word Wizard - there are over 20 difficult challenges and when you hit it (1/20 chance), you still only have a 1/7 chance to get Word Wizard from it. You should not see it more often than 3 times a year on average even if you play every day and buy as many challenges as you can.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 04:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
I completely disagree that it's an ethical or democratic problem.

It is a level playing field.

There's no advantage in having already won the badge. There's always going to be more than one person chasing the badge, even without the daily challenge.

In triathlon you play against people who already have the badge. In every game you play, you are playing against people who may not need points or badges and are just playing for Fun. It's just the nature of quizzes.


I would actually suspect that this might increase the number of Buzzy Bees won. Many players never tried for this badge in the first place because it's easy to overlook and forget about. Now they get reminded. Also, if a lot of people start chasing this, the frequency of hunts being completed will increase, thus more of them will be started as well (and if that alone won't generate enough hunts, Terry can always decrease the random cooldown after a win so that even more will be created).
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 05:04 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Chavs, neat idea but not really possible since this is a challenge with a variable part - it is "Win your division in [random hourly game]".

It can't thus be changed just for that one game. However this also means that it should be very rare when it comes to actually asking for Word Wizard - there are over 20 difficult challenges and when you hit it (1/20 chance), you still only have a 1/7 chance to get Word Wizard from it. You should not see it more often than 3 times a year on average even if you play every day and buy as many challenges as you can.



Thanks, Wesley, I appreciate the explanation.

I'm all for difficult challenges that take a few shots to get and I recognise too that that it's much more satisfying to win something you've had to really stretch yourself to get, but I think it's a pity that monthly badges seem to be a double-edged sword in some games! (I'm currently in the running for two of them and wondering if I shouldn't just get out while I can! lol!)


Quote:
I would actually suspect that this might increase the number of Buzzy Bees won.


I think you might be right. I've won a couple of badge/lets (that I wouldn't have dared to aim for) while I've been busy trying for something else.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:07 AM

7 Done challenge completed badgelet not awarded.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:18 AM

Starlord, you are showing 6 complete, not 7...
Posted by: playmate1111

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:21 AM

I'm confused (not that it takes much to do that to me ) wink My challenge is "Participate in 8 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 6 correct in each game."

I have played the following but cannot for the life of me figure out what to play for number 8

Who's the Smartest?
Piece of Cake
Word Wizard
The Mixed Game
Fill Me In
Who's the Expert?
Quiz of the Hour

Can anyone help?
Posted by: dippo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:29 AM

It's answered in the FAQs. Obscurity.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 07:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
But the quest for the Buzzy Bee is even...first come first serve. Not everyone gets that challenge at the same time.

I am fine with having it appear more than once, personally.

As to moral views, I'm not quite sure how the Buzzy Bee has to do with that.

Anyhow, that's a long winded way of saying nothing. If there's a problem here, Terry or Wes?


Mariamir, I agree with you on this one. I don't think there is any problem with it at all.

I got this same challenge yesterday, and I had fun trying (unsuccessfully) to get it. I played a bunch of quizzes on the series LOST and remembered how much I liked it the first time around. No one else was trying for the Bee while I was doing this (late last night) so I don't think the fact that it was for a challenge and not the badge itself hurt anyone. I don't have anything philosophically or otherwise against this challenge. Some days will be hard and others won't. That's the nature of this beast.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 07:17 AM

The other day I observed in this thread that no-one should expect to succeed at every single challenge every single day. If you fail at one, then so what? There'll be another one along tomorrow.

If that means it takes you one more day to get whatever badge you are aiming for, then so what? No-one dies, for goodness sake!
Posted by: Wallybird1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 07:34 AM

medium challenge-Play any three average, tough, or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each.-the first two shown are the first two I did today, nothing has shown since although I have completed several more. Do the games take some time to appear or is it just mad at me?
Great new games, by the way. Thanks for all the new and interesting challenges.
Posted by: playmate1111

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:00 AM

Thank you Dippo smile
Posted by: einsteinII

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:10 AM

I have played 17 new questions and none were registered as having been completed. I also completed thye medium challenge and it was also not recorded. I like the daily challenges and think it will be a good game when ironed out.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:32 AM

Please, please, please make sure to carefully READ your challenges before posting here.

95% of the things posted here are because people aren't even bothering to read the instructions.

einsteinII: Your challenge is "Play our Quick Quiz and bank at least 17 correct questions".

Did you BANK your quick quiz points?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Wallybird1
medium challenge-Play any three average, tough, or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each.-the first two shown are the first two I did today, nothing has shown since although I have completed several more. Do the games take some time to appear or is it just mad at me?
Great new games, by the way. Thanks for all the new and interesting challenges.


The system shows you as having played a total of 3 player quizzes today:

Famous Rock Frontmen: Not 10 questions
I Think Not, Therefore I Am Not:
That Musician is from Michigan?:

Which others did you play, and have you played them within the past 30 days?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
I have to win the Buzzy Bee a SECOND time?! I went through the having to do it once already. Why, again? It also blocks players trying to win it for the first time.


That's rotten luck though, getting it two days out of four.


I got it two days in a row, too. Use my swap the second time because I didn't want to bother about it.


Records show that you have not received this two days in a row.

No challenge of the same type and difficulty level will repeat two days in a row. If you receive it day 1 and swap it out, it can arrive day 2, but that doesn't sound like what you are describing.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
I have to win the Buzzy Bee a SECOND time?! I went through the having to do it once already. Why, again?


Because we do not have infinite challenge types.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:45 AM

Originally Posted By: dippo
One of my challenges today is:

"Score a cumulative total of at least xxx questions correct playing player-created quizzes."

I've just played Brain Twist, and they didn't count; it is clearly a player created quiz, so should it count? Is it a problem with the points not being counted towards daily totals because it awards the Brain Twist reward?


Correct, brain twist doesn't count because it is a different system, even though its content comes from a user quiz. I'll add that to the text.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:50 AM


("You take a peak and notice...")


Fixed
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
7 Done challenge completed badgelet not awarded.


Correct.

The "7 complete challenges" award is not awarded when you have "6 complete challenges".
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:06 AM


Originally Posted By: playmate1111
I'm confused (not that it takes much to do that to me ) wink My challenge is "Participate in 8 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 6 correct in each game."

I have played the following but cannot for the life of me figure out what to play for number 8

Who's the Smartest?
Piece of Cake
Word Wizard
The Mixed Game
Fill Me In
Who's the Expert?
Quiz of the Hour

Can anyone help?

Have had other people miss Obscurity too, so I've added a list of all games to the challenge.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:09 AM

One of my teammates, davidcgraham has this challenge:

Rank in the top 25% of players in your division at the close of an hourly game of Obscurity.

However, he doesn't have gold membership. Can he get a new one in its place?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:13 AM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
One of my teammates, davidcgraham has this challenge:

Rank in the top 25% of players in your division at the close of an hourly game of Obscurity.

However, he doesn't have gold membership. Can he get a new one in its place?


Thanks, that issue has been fixed. Will give him a replacement.
Posted by: Wallybird1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:39 AM

Thanks for the response. I assumed all quizzes were "player quizzes", including the ones listed as FTQuizBot. (since they are all submitted by players). Given the correct understanding, the challenge is complete. Thanks
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:41 AM

I inititally had an issue with the Buzzy Bee challenge because the challenge description says, "Scavenger hunts begin completely randomly throughout the week. Keep an eye out on the Buzz for new hunts". I didn't realize that they run and regenerate pretty constantly (multiple times a day), which completely eliminates my concern that there would be no game available on certain days.
Posted by: einsteinII

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 11:38 AM

Terry, I didn't bank the new questions as you suggested and now that I know you have to do that, will do so in the future. Never played that quiz before. I wonder do you have any hints as to what I am doing wrong with the part of the challenge that requires me to complete two new quizzes posted today, which I did do? I am sorry if I am being thick here.
Posted by: einsteinII

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 11:43 AM

Terry here are the quizzes that I did. I believe they are new quizzes and I believe I scored more than 50% on them.

World Mix
Ten mixed questions from a variety of FunTrivia authors.
World Average
10 Q FTQuizBot
Today!
324 plays


People Mix
Ten mixed questions from a variety of FunTrivia authors.
People Average
10 Q FTQuizBot
Today!
381 plays


Thanks, Al
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 11:45 AM

You need to do quizzes that were actually added today. Since the FT day is right now just under 12 hours old, you have just two options at the moment - the Venus quiz and the one on Canadian Celebrities. All other quizzes listed under "New" were added yesterday.

Edit: Seems the mixes don't count for this one - you need actual player quizzes (where the author is not FTQuizBot)
Posted by: einsteinII

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 11:55 AM

OK seems a little confusing but I will look for the ones that aren't mixes and that have been added new. I went to the Buzz to look for new quizzes but I must have missed these. Thanks.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: einsteinII
OK seems a little confusing but I will look for the ones that aren't mixes and that have been added new. I went to the Buzz to look for new quizzes but I must have missed these. Thanks.


Toward the top of the home page, just under the large 'FunTrivia' logo, is a section with several tabs. The first is for 'New' Quizzes, and clearly specifies when they came on line smile
Posted by: einsteinII

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:16 PM

May I suggest that the line "Play 2 new quizzes that are added to FunTrivia today, scoring at least 50% in each." be edited to state that player-generated quizzes (as opposed to quizbot)are required? That would save at least my confusion. "Postcards", thank you for directions but that is where I had been to find the two quizzes that I had completed but didnt realize that most didn't count as new quizzes.

Al
Posted by: einsteinII

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:17 PM

I have completed the attractive Canadians and the Venus quizzes and have been credited, thank you Wes.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:18 PM

If nothing else, the new challenge will certainly lead to more understanding of the 'ins and outs' of the site. Some of the queries have been somewhat 'interesting'.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:28 PM

Surdoux, I was actually surprised last night when I took a few moments to read through some of the chat board threads that relate to challenges (normal challenges).

I guess when you add stuff incrementally over a 10 year period you end up with a lot of stuff. I was amazed at the variety and the depth that we've got content-wise. A new player starting today on FT has at least 10 years of stuff to do AS IS, with no additional content or games added. That's pretty remarkable.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:33 PM

Clarified, and a link added to "New Quizzes" list.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:34 PM

It is a remarkable site Terry, and is a credit to you and your team. Particularly as you all continually improve and extend the site without relying on a 'it will do as it is' mentality that could so easily have been taken. If I had a hat, I'd doff it.
Posted by: bushidox

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:35 PM

First off, I have been using this site for almost a year now, and love funtrivia. Secondly, other than the global challenges, these Daily Challenges are the most exciting thing to do every day here. That being said, I registered for the forums for the exclusive purpose of my suggestion. Yesterday, my Difficult challenge was to score a score of 560 on Easy or Hard Hourly quizzes, specifically in the General category. I found out about the challenge at 7 AM funtrivia time, and checked to see if there had been a general category for either Easy or Hard already that day. I found out that the Hard had last had that category expiring at midnight, thereby not being eligible for yesterday, and that the Easy had been at 1 AM. The entire rest of the day, NEITHER Easy or Hard had a single General category. This to me seems extremely unreasonable and arbitrary. A couple of things as I see them.

1) Random is random, and sometimes a particular category may take a while to show up.
2) Not every challenge is supposed to be doable on a given day, frustrating as this may be.
3) If you were a gold member you would be able to change a challenge once a day and eliminate some of these.

However, making a challenge dependent upon a score, that was literally only available once, out of 48 possible slots is very biased. This would prohibit people in multiple time zones (India vs. US for instance) from having an equal chance in a day by making it inevitably during someone's sleep cycle. Even if you have to cycle through all the possible categories in a given day, can we at least offset different difficulties by more than a few hours? For instance, set the category rotation for Easy, Medium and Hard to be offset by 8 hours, thereby allowing for the possibility of completing challenges like this at least once every 8 hours.

I know that I am complaining about a single occurance, of what ultimately boils down to pure bad luck. But, by going with category offset times, you would greatly reduce the odds of bad luck happening across similar challenges. Yes, the challenge was tagged as a difficult one, but having to camp funtrivia's site every single hour for a chance of completing a challenge was a bit over the top. This goes back to your (Terry's) comment earlier of a challenge targeting a single quiz being a bit too harsh. In that case, you were referring to having to win a category (the Word Wizard Champions division was the example) targeting too narrow a goal. By allowing for more variation of the categories, my offset idea or something similar, you would eliminate this from happening again.

I appreciate all the great things the mods do for and on this site, and really like it. The Daily Challenge is a very good thing, and most of my other complaints about it are very very minor, and probably personal preference more than anything else. Please take my idea or something similar into consideration. Thanks.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:39 PM

Originally Posted By: bushidox
First off, I have been using this site for almost a year now, and love funtrivia. Secondly, other than the global challenges, these Daily Challenges are the most exciting thing to do every day here. That being said, I registered for the forums for the exclusive purpose of my suggestion. Yesterday, my Difficult challenge was to score a score of 560 on Easy or Hard Hourly quizzes, specifically in the General category. I found out about the challenge at 7 AM funtrivia time, and checked to see if there had been a general category for either Easy or Hard already that day. I found out that the Hard had last had that category expiring at midnight, thereby not being eligible for yesterday, and that the Easy had been at 1 AM. The entire rest of the day, NEITHER Easy or Hard had a single General category. This to me seems extremely unreasonable and arbitrary. A couple of things as I see them.


There was a discussion of this by us testers in the other thread.

http://www.funtrivia.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/825682/19
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:41 PM

Actually bushidox, Wesley brought up that precise concern in testing and we decided to let it go and see how it worked out. So it's known that it might be an issue.

We could probably throw a 2nd (maybe even 3rd) category in there if need be to decrease the chance significantly of having bad luck.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:44 PM

Won't let me delete my post. :P
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 12:53 PM

Ok, I'm going to change that challenge to 3 categories, but increase the required score just a tad. So, it will be much easier to find an eligible game, but a little harder to score credit.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:13 PM

Re: Crystal Ball daily

What are people's thoughts on me making it such that you complete it by either winning OR by making some number of guesses?

Maybe, 15 guesses made, which implies you dropped in for 5 games?

That way, there is a strategic/lucky way to win, and a perseverance way of winning.
Posted by: bushidox

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:20 PM

Out of curiousity, which category did you add to that challenge type? If it is Average, wouldn't that always be Mixed, and therefore ineligible for the specific topic? Thanks for putting some thought into it, I was just trying to avoid frustration for others, as I felt rather annoyed that I had bad luck that day (not bad design, just bad luck).

As far as the crystal ball idea, I like the idea, but I think 15 sounds a bit low, I would vote for 24 or 25 as the number of guesses, otherwise anyone could get it in a very short time with little effort, and thereby reduce the challenge level. Just my thoughts.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:22 PM

"Out of curiousity, which category did you add to that challenge type"

Category.... as in, "General OR Sports OR Television" rather than "General".
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:22 PM

Either that, or we keep Crystal Ball as just a very difficult task, which I don't have a problem with. I'm hearing gripes on day 4 already though, so....
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:27 PM

I have no problem with that being a very difficult task. It's been mentioned time and time again, it is not meant to be easy... One should not be able to win every single challenge every single day.


If you do change it, though, 15 is kind of low. If you make your initial guess, plus your additional 5, that's 6 guesses an hour.


To keep it difficult, I'd say at least 30 (that would be playing 5 hours and having to make all six guesses each hour). Of course, it may take more than 5 hours to win this, because sometimes it will be guessed before :45.


But that makes it a bit more lenient, yet keeps it difficult.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:28 PM

How about the alternative to match the first 4 or 5 letters of a CB word with a guess? Might be a tad tougher to check in coding but strikes a good balance between effort and a little luck.

A raw number of guesses could be too easily defeated without much thinking
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:28 PM

Crystal Ball isn't for everyone, and as a general rule I hate it. It is also quite difficult to get the word. However... since I got that task during testing I've guessed the word 13 times and am on my way to the next badge. I'd say people should try it out, you never know what benefits the challenges will bring!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:32 PM

That's great, Flopsy!

I agree, people should try it. It's pretty awesome what one can accomplish if you think you're forced to play. wink


Wes' idea is good, too. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:36 PM

The 4 / 5 letter variant could actually be used to make a medium and a hard of it. Getting 4 is pretty easy if you get to the last minutes of an hour. 5 requires a bit of luck but allows a decent hit chance if you play 4-5 games.

The problem with winning is that it essentially requires to sit out the very specific time at the end of the hour multiple times, waiting for the right moment to strike. Many players can't adhere to this exact attendance requirement and thus have almost no chance at CB.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:43 PM

Not a big fan of the 4/5 letter idea.... just doesn't feel like it changes the challenge much, and adds some complexity to the scoring.

Perhaps this is actually a case where a daily challenge for CB doesn't make sense and it should simply be removed.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Not a big fan of the 4/5 letter idea.... just doesn't feel like it changes the challenge much, and adds some complexity to the scoring.

Perhaps this is actually a case where a daily challenge for CB doesn't make sense and it should simply be removed.


Wasn't the idea of difficult to be, well, difficult? I think it is a reasonable challenge. For me, it is more realistic than being at the top of Speed Demon, so it just depends on your skillset. Which seems fair. Not everyone will win every challenge, right?
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:48 PM

On the crystal Ball guesses aren't there a total of 6 that can be made in an hour? An initial one in the first 45 minutes then the 5 bonus guesses. So three visits might be 18 guesses, Won't there be trouble (Ah, what you want, difficulty) if the word is guessed in the first 45 minutes all day? To get fifteen guesses you'd have to play all the normal awake hours of the day.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Not a big fan of the 4/5 letter idea.... just doesn't feel like it changes the challenge much, and adds some complexity to the scoring.

Perhaps this is actually a case where a daily challenge for CB doesn't make sense and it should simply be removed.


I had this one several times in testing, and only managed to win it once, and that was when I lucked out to be given the win when 12 other people guessed the same word. I had this challenge Day 2 in actually testing, played almost every hour, and still managed zip. I think it can be kept in.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:04 PM

Well I'm not doing anything to it right now. It will remain as it is. There are indeed a number of "difficult" challenges which are extremely tough.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Well I'm not doing anything to it right now. It will remain as it is. There are indeed a number of "difficult" challenges which are extremely tough.


So true...like my one today that requires I earn a badge. I'm trying my hardest at the Achievements. I can so close in Mind Melt! Swapped two of the words in the final section. So close! I don't know how I'm going to do it...I will probably end up scratching it...
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:17 PM

Quote:
Wasn't the idea of difficult to be, well, difficult? I think it is a reasonable challenge. For me, it is more realistic than being at the top of Speed Demon, so it just depends on your skillset. Which seems fair. Not everyone will win every challenge, right?


I completely agree.

My difficult challenge for the day is to be 1st or 2nd in the Mixed Game.


I am seriously considering using my weekly swap because I will have no chance at winning this one. I don't do well at the game.

So I agree, completely. We all have different skills and you're right, not everyone will win every challenge. So I think it's a good challenge as is.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:22 PM

I think one of the ways to solve the "I really don't like this game" might be to make the GM swap more accessible - allow more uses per week but attach a cost of one credit to the second use, two for the third... (still only once per day of course)

That way, everyone can decide for themselves which are their "absolute hate" games.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:31 PM

If a change was to be made, what about just guessing the word rather than winning the Crystal Ball hourly game? That way, there is a more likely chance of winning the challenge yet it still remains difficult.

As an aside, my difficult challenge is to be 1st or 2nd in the "Who's the Smartest?" game (something I will probably not win), and I originally thought that was the challenge WesleyCrusher was referring to in the FAQ.
"In particular, there is one challenge using the Smartest game that may be very nasty if you receive it late unless you have already played regularly throughout the day."
However, after noticing salami_swami's difficult challenge, I'm thinking otherwise. I'm thinking the challenge in the FAQ is referring to something unique to "Who's the Smartest?" (or at least, more unique than just changing the name of the game and that's it). Then again, it could be it, and what makes this challenge "very nasty if you receive it late" is the fact that this is one of the harder (if not the hardest) hourly games. I'm thinking this challenge is a cumulative total points type challenge. I guess I'll eventually find out.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:32 PM

I think the swap is fine as is. What I think is frustrating people with the challenges the most is that the game is new, and everyone wants to complete all the challenges. No one wants to miss out on the few points that make them lose out on being the first to win an Epic or the first to win one of the badges.

When we first started testing a month ago, I felt a similar way. I wanted to see straight checkmarks on my page at the end of the day every day. As we continued I became less worried about getting all completes and just completed what I could, skipping over the challenges I had no chance on (changing when I could, or just letting them expire). I think when the excitement of the new game winds down, and people settle in, they won't be so concerned about not being able to finish every single challenge. Afterall, the difficult ones were designed to not have a 100% success rate...
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 02:55 PM

Quote:
What I think is frustrating people with the challenges the most is that the game is new, and everyone wants to complete all the challenges


Amen! Hallelujah! I think you hit the jackpot here. That is the reason, I am sure of it.

I felt the exact same way as well, but as time went on, I didn't mind missing one every now and again. I think people will cool off. I agree, it's discouraging to see a challenge you cannot win, but such is life. Not every challenge fits every individual.

To tweak all the challenges to please everyone is silly. I think the challenges are fine the way they are. They are all great, and doable (though some might be impossible for players, but hey, can't win'em all).

Honestly, I think kaddarsgirl is completely correct. People just want their own challenges to be easier. I know I felt that way. I, today, am going to have to live with not winning the difficult, or using my one swap (which should remain as one swap) a week.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:06 PM

Exactly right! Everything should be difficult but doable (even if it's once in a blue moon). I play golf a lot, and on my home course there is a par four of 349 yards which I can get very close to most time with a good drive. I've reached the green once in the last ten years, and the satisfaction that gave was indescribable. If it was a bit shorter and reachable quite often, it would cease to be a proper challenge and hence less enjoyable in the long run. So for me, everything as it is seems fine!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:12 PM

I love the analogy, surdoux.

You're right, if we make things too easy and there is no challenge, what's the fun in winning? The winning comes from, not the reward in the end, but the journey one takes to get it. The FunTrivia treasure is this way. I liked the actual hunt far more than the badge.

If everything was always easy for us to win, this game would soon become a not-so-fun-to-play game.




Also, a bit off topic...
1,113 challenges have been won today. That means the interest is there. That's exciting news.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:14 PM

I haven't been successful in every task so far. I personally feel some of them SHOULD be nearly impossible (for me, doesn't mean they're impossible for better players). For instance, yesterday I had the crystal ball task and for some weird reason won it. The fact that I won it would not change my opinion - which is that you have 24 (x5) chances to do so and if you don't? So what? It's NOT A RACE lol. Today my difficult task is to score in the top 3 in a Global Challenge section. I don't think I've ever been on the first page, never mind the top 3 lol. As always, I have the choice of NOT playing, or giving it a go, or swapping it out since I'm a gold member. Shrugs. It's a great game so far and (I can't believe I'm saying this lol) actually agree with Salami on certain points lol.

And Surdoux? You're adorable and very funny : )
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
The winning comes from, not the reward in the end, but the journey one takes to get it. The FunTrivia treasure is this way. I liked the actual hunt far more than the badge.


As soon as I completed the treasure hunt I wish I hadn't. The accomplishment felt so good after month of hard work and clue collecting. It was a bit depressing though to see the clues flash on the top of the screen and not have to check my list or add a new one or even read it. I wish there had been a second hunt to complete that became available after the first, so I'd have something to work toward. These Daily Challenges are very similar in that respect, and that's really why I love them. Something new every day. Luck in getting an Epic. Collecting all the flags. Bam! New gorgeous badge to add to my profile! Though I serious expect this trek to last much longer than my 2 month treasure hunt did.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:21 PM

Hey, whoa now, why are you surprised to agree with me? wink lol.

You mentioned an important fact, it's not a race. This game is designed to be a challenge against yourself. If you lose out on a few challenges, or have a vacation and don't do them for a while, so what? You'll pick up where you left off. In Global Challenge, missing a few is detrimental. Here, it's no big deal.

I like that aspect of this challenge. It's your own challenge. If you fail, nobody else has to even know. wink It's all you, and you're competing against no one. I like these daily challenges a lot. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Something new every day. Luck in getting an Epic. Collecting all the flags. Bam! New gorgeous badge to add to my profile! Though I serious expect this trek to last much longer than my 2 month treasure hunt did.


Much, much longer. You don't even know how long smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Much, much longer. You don't even know how long smile


Well it will take at least a year to get the 200 badge...especially with challenges I can't complete...and then I know there's more after that...I am really looking forward to playing them everyday!
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:03 PM

I think even after I've won all the badges, there'll be motivation to complete the challenges (or try to!), and it'll be good for getting me playing games I neglect more. It's a fantastic addition to the site and I'm glad for it. smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:14 PM

I will personally always have this motivation...

I want to eventually have more challenges completed and more credits than anyone on the site. :-P

Never miss a challenge, or, at least, never a full day, similar to dabomb and the busride. ;-)
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:19 PM

Excellent motivation and worthy goal, Salami_swami.

I just have to mention that there are three players who have not missed a single busride. Dabomb as you said, also Zippy826 and tat2jb. Three cheers for the three travelers!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:34 PM

Yes, I know there are three, thanks for mentioning the other two. I could not remember the names. :-P
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 06:34 PM

I love the daily Challenges. I'm also happy to know that I'm not the only one who doesn't like The Crystal Ball game! I had the challenge to win a Crystal Ball game the second day, I swapped it out and completed all the challenges. I received the Crystal Ball challenge again today! Oh well, completing all challenges today will not happen! There's always tomorrow!
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: Mariamir
I got it two days in a row, too. Use my swap the second time because I didn't want to bother about it.


Records show that you have not received this two days in a row.

No challenge of the same type and difficulty level will repeat two days in a row. If you receive it day 1 and swap it out, it can arrive day 2, but that doesn't sound like what you are describing.



Hmm, maybe not two days in a row. Maybe day 1 and day 3, I think. Got it day 1, I'm sure. Then day 2/3. I switched it the second time I got it.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The problem with winning is that it essentially requires to sit out the very specific time at the end of the hour multiple times, waiting for the right moment to strike. Many players can't adhere to this exact attendance requirement and thus have almost no chance at CB.


Thanks for pointing this out, Wes. Those of us who work and who are trying to fit in some way to do challenges in our breaks would never be able to hit five hours of the crystal ball with the additional guesses too.

Sue
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Sep 27 2012 10:55 PM

No whinging and whining here Terry! I love it all! Thanks to you and your fabulous team for putting it all together. Clearly Wes must have cloned himself several times over to be able to do what he does for this site. A special thanks to you Wes for your unfailing good humour, patience and dedication.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 12:19 AM

Terry, I won the "Mind Melt" challenge badge from playing the game yesterday, but it was awarded at 12:03 FT Time and didn't give me credit for my Difficult Challenge: "Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."... cry cry cry
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 03:33 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
I think one of the ways to solve the "I really don't like this game" might be to make the GM swap more accessible - allow more uses per week but attach a cost of one credit to the second use, two for the third... (still only once per day of course)

That way, everyone can decide for themselves which are their "absolute hate" games.


I think this is a great idea!

I'd also like the ability to postpone challenges. Yesterday I got the dreaded Crystal Ball one, I had to go to work so I swapped it out as I'd never have managed in just a few hours. Today I'm off and would have happily tried for it!
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 06:53 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Terry, I won the "Mind Melt" challenge badge from playing the game yesterday, but it was awarded at 12:03 FT Time and didn't give me credit for my Difficult Challenge: "Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."... cry cry cry


Seems a bit unfair. You *did* complete the challenge, within the allotted time. This would happen with other badges, as well, that are given past the reset.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 07:15 AM

Good point! My Difficult challenge today is "Rank in the top 3 (in your division) in one of your Global Challenge games today (when the set closes)", so if I do this in the second set, it won't be calculated until "tomorrow" either.

Mind you, on current form, I won't get it anyway!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 07:33 AM

Originally Posted By: stedman
Good point! My Difficult challenge today is "Rank in the top 3 (in your division) in one of your Global Challenge games today (when the set closes)", so if I do this in the second set, it won't be calculated until "tomorrow" either.

Mind you, on current form, I won't get it anyway!


Global Challenge Second Set works. We tried that in testing.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 08:15 AM

Originally Posted By: collybird
I'd also like the ability to postpone challenges. Yesterday I got the dreaded Crystal Ball one, I had to go to work so I swapped it out as I'd never have managed in just a few hours. Today I'm off and would have happily tried for it!


The problem I have with this one is people who have failed a challenge, then postpone it and try it again tomorrow. This seems like cheating the system to get the credits. Some people might use it the way you suggest, but you can't guarantee they'll use it that way. If you fail a challenge, it's failed. You shouldn't get the chance to play for it again tomorrow.

I also think one swap a week is fine, no need to make it available every day, even at a price. You don't have to win every single challenge. "Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." It would be best, actually, to lose it altogether and just stick people with what they get. But...I think it will most likely be necessary to have it to earn "Ten in a Day"...and should be kept in for that alone. Plus it's nice to have the Gold Member perk, but it shouldn't make the game infinitely easier for GMs to win, than it is for regular members. They already don't get to play all the games and can't win all the flags.
Posted by: AlexxSchneider

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 08:17 AM

The daily challenges are just that - challenges. Playing a game that is out of your comfort zone, well, that's a challenge, isn't it? The set-up is random, so I think we all just have to live with it if we are given a game that we're not particularly fond of. smile Who knows, you might get lucky, and you might even change your mind about the game in the end! smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:06 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Terry, I won the "Mind Melt" challenge badge from playing the game yesterday, but it was awarded at 12:03 FT Time and didn't give me credit for my Difficult Challenge: "Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."... cry cry cry

Hm, it certainly would be nice to be able to count that.

Unfortunately, mind melt scores after the challenges complete, and the badge falls on the next day. There really isn't an easy way to make it (or other daily game badges awarded when they reset) count, unless I redo the scheduling for everything, which has all sorts of potential unintended consequences of its own.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Terry, I won the "Mind Melt" challenge badge from playing the game yesterday, but it was awarded at 12:03 FT Time and didn't give me credit for my Difficult Challenge: "Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."... cry cry cry

Hm, it certainly would be nice to be able to count that.

Unfortunately, mind melt scores after the challenges complete, and the badge falls on the next day. There really isn't an easy way to make it (or other daily game badges awarded when they reset) count, unless I redo the scheduling for everything, which has all sorts of potential unintended consequences of its own.


frown Oh, well. At least I know I completed it smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:09 AM

I think that over time people won't even try to complete all of the daily challenges.

The thing is, there is so much to do on a daily basis as there is, that I suspect over time people will pick and choose from their daily challenges, or try some of the harder ones when they run out of things to do.

I am considering adding some FT point bonus for completing a challenge though. Perhaps +100 easy, +250 medium, +500 difficult or something like that.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:10 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Terry, I won the "Mind Melt" challenge badge from playing the game yesterday, but it was awarded at 12:03 FT Time and didn't give me credit for my Difficult Challenge: "Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."... cry cry cry

Hm, it certainly would be nice to be able to count that.

Unfortunately, mind melt scores after the challenges complete, and the badge falls on the next day. There really isn't an easy way to make it (or other daily game badges awarded when they reset) count, unless I redo the scheduling for everything, which has all sorts of potential unintended consequences of its own.


frown Oh, well. At least I know I completed it smile


At the very least I need to document this fact in the challenge description, until a day that perhaps there is a fix.
Posted by: Mugaboo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:17 AM

I was given an "I'm the Expert!" challenge today. Nothing wrong with that, except my opponent is level 16, and therefore does not have Expert Vision, Mulligan, or Change the Future. I can do these do these, which seem to me I have an unfair advantage, as I can plan further ahead, by seeing those subjects that are already fixed, and what might be coming in the future.

Not that I'm complaining, but I just wondered whether this was fair.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:06 AM

At the end of the day he has every opportunity to play exactly the same games as you do.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Hm, it certainly would be nice to be able to count that.

Unfortunately, mind melt scores after the challenges complete, and the badge falls on the next day. There really isn't an easy way to make it (or other daily game badges awarded when they reset) count, unless I redo the scheduling for everything, which has all sorts of potential unintended consequences of its own.


Actually upon looking at the list again with this information, the number of badges one can get within one day without having prior preparation (read: an almost completed task) is very limited and most of them are those that players do get early. With another 6-10 of them eliminated by the scoring order, it's unrealistic that any player would be in a position to win this as often as it will come up in rotation.

I am counting a total of merely 28 that one could get within a day's efforts, 19 of which are the prime candidates for early wins (13 of those are the Achievements, six more are the hourly division winners).

Maybe this one could be made MUCH rarer than other difficults? It would be interesting and playable to see it come up just once or twice a year as a good reminder for a player to check his badge list for that "almost complete" one like I did in testing. With equal probability, I fear this may soon become an insta-exchange once players have exhausted their obvious options.

(Interesting side question: What if a player sits on 20/20/19 and has two difficults both completing at midnight, one of which is the requirement to earn a bagde? Will this award Adventurer first and then trigger the challenge?)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:24 AM

"Maybe this one could be made MUCH rarer than other difficults" -- all challenges have equal probability.

I'll simply remove the difficult one, and probably move the medium "badge or badgelet" to "difficult". It's far more likely someone will complete the challenge via a badgelet.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
I'll simply remove the difficult one, and probably move the medium "badge or badgelet" to "difficult". It's far more likely someone will complete the challenge via a badgelet.


Sounds good on both counts. That's something more in range of the typical player and also more repeatable since we tend to add more badgelets than badges in the long run.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:31 AM

Terry, please also check the PM I sent you regarding the game yesterday. There is a small "oops" regarding the epics.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:46 AM

Can you put a list of the epic badgelets on the challenge page without detailing the requirements of each one? That way we can see who's gotten them and/or how many people have won them.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:49 AM

"Can you put a list of the epic badgelets on the challenge page without detailing the requirements of each one? That way we can see who's gotten them and/or how many people have won them."

That's next on my list. "Most Recent Epic Winners"
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:22 AM

http://www.funtrivia.com/dchallenge/epicwinners.cfm
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 01:13 PM

Terry - I noticed that it says how many daily challenges have been completed so far today as one of the bits and pieces in the Buzz. That was a great idea! smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 01:48 PM

Yes, I love seeing that little snippet as well.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 02:25 PM

p.s. I love reading the "story thread". It's so wonderfully random.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 02:31 PM

Rofl, I should go read it for fun. :P
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 04:44 PM

Crap, missed out on my Difficult today by 7pts...guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to buy a new challenge frown Done today then.

I like the new tracking feature for Epics! Will need to read the story thread too, looks like tons of new posts now the game is live! So exciting!!
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 05:44 PM

I agree with both Reeshy and Alexx on their points. There were lots of games I was neglecting (mostly because I never did well at many of them)...but now that I'm "challenged" (ok, no jokes folks lol) that's a different story. And besides, levels are earned by points as well as badges, so it doesn't "hurt" to get back into some games and rack up a few. Win-win in my mind. And thanks.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Midget40
Just a small point on the wording of the Epic challenge badge which states:

Awarded to a player who manages to find and complete the eight Epic daily challenges.

Until I found and read all the Intro & Facts section this made it sound like they were challenges you had to FIND somewhere on the site and then complete them.



I have to say I agree with Midget40 on this one. It sounds like you have to hunt for them, like a scavenger.

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl

It makes sense to me the way it is. You do have to find them, by purchasing challenges.


Well, actualy, it's more like the Epic challenges find YOU. laugh Perhaps rephrase like this: "Awarded to a player who completes the eight Epic daily challenges, which appear randomly in the Daily Challenge list". That way, we know it isn't something to search for.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 06:33 PM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Well, actualy, it's more like the Epic challenges find YOU. laugh Perhaps rephrase like this: "Awarded to a player who completes the eight Epic daily challenges, which appear randomly in the Daily Challenge list". That way, we know it isn't something to search for.


If the wording is to be changed it needs to include "buying" in the description. They don't just "appear" randomly. They have to be bought, like it says in the FAQ.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 06:35 PM

Actually, a lot of the questions people have been asking can be answered by reading the FAQ or reading all of the words in the challenge descriptions....That is what the FAQ is there for too, to answer those kinds of questions.

Regarding the "Totally Epic" badge, from the FAQ:

"An epic challenge is one of eight rare challenges that you can occasionally get when "buying" a challenge.

There are a total of eight epic challenges, and each one has a corresponding epic badgelet that is won upon completion.

They are more elaborate and difficult than normal challenges and you should expect anywhere between one and six hours of play to give them proper attention. If you do complete the requirements of an epic challenge, you will receive the appropriate flag badgelet (which counts normally towards your badgelet total even though it is not listed in the normal "Tower of Challenges" list)."

"Epic challenges are a 4th class of challenges which can only be obtained by buying new challenges with those credits."

"Finally, there is a special treat for our dedicated players: Should you manage to collect all of the epic flags, you will be awarded the rare and coveted "Totally Epic" badge. You can find that one all the way down in the Diamond Dome."

and

"No. We have specifically decided not to show these flags in the list to preserve the mystery of the epic daily challenges. You will not see their requirements until you get an epic challenge. There are eight of these flags: white, yellow, orange, red, purple, blue, green and black. Each of them will test your performance in a single area of the site. Which of them is which will be left to you to discover - and please do not share your discoveries with others. Every player should be able to enjoy the feeling of finding another piece of the puzzle."


Perhaps, instead of totally rewording the description of "Totally Epic" on the challenge page, a link to the Daily Challenges FAQ, could be added instead. This would serve two purposes. 1: it would dispel any confusion that you have to search for the flags like a scavenger hunt, and 2: it would alert people to the challenges if they did not notice them before or try the link at the top of their homepage.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 08:28 PM

Won an Epic flag! 4th to win of all time. I fell badly now about making such a fuss. Sorry, all! Black flag.

I was ordered to edit this. People weren't supposed to know how to get the Epic Black Flag.

I thought it had to be ASSIGNED to a player first?! They have to be challenged to get it in order to actually achieve it!

It shouldn't make a dime's worth of a difference if it was designed correctly!

That is all! Good night! I'm NOT happy.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 08:30 PM

Congrats on winning the Epic!
Posted by: maninmidohio

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:03 PM

Cubs - you are not supposed to disclose exactly what the epics are, spoils the fun for the rest of us.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:07 PM

YOU are the one you gave me the bad note, kaddarsgirl! I have a REAL problem with a Level 72 telling what a Level 150, such as myself what to say! I'm VERY angry! I don't care if you had access to the daily challenge game before me or not! Good night!
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:08 PM

Originally Posted By: maninmidohio
Cubs - you are not supposed to disclose exactly what the epics are, spoils the fun for the rest of us.


My name is Dave, not Cubs. Look at the sig line!
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:18 PM

Quote:
YOU are the one you gave me the bad note, kaddarsgirl! I have a REAL problem with a Level 72 telling what a Level 150, such as myself what to say! I'm VERY angry! I don't care if you had access to the daily challenge game before me or not! Good night!


Not to fuel an argument or anything, but the intent behind hiding the epics from players from the get-go would be to keep them a mystery until well into the game's life. If players knew the reqs. from the get-go, it would make things a lot easier for new players.

I had no idea how to beat the black flag. Now I do. Now I'm prepared. Bit of an unfair advantage to some of the people who care about that sort of thing, I guess. Same sort of thing IMO as telling someone how to access a part of the FT Treasure Hunt.

Kaddarsgirl isn't a know-all for the game (though she knows more than I do, and I'm level 157); none of the testers played all the options. It shouldn't matter what level she is though-- she simply asked that you edit your post to omit the giveaway. If she didn't, someone else would have (and they did); if they didn't, Terry or Wes would've edited it out themselves.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Quote:
YOU are the one you gave me the bad note, kaddarsgirl! I have a REAL problem with a Level 72 telling what a Level 150, such as myself what to say! I'm VERY angry! I don't care if you had access to the daily challenge game before me or not! Good night!


Not to fuel an argument or anything, but the intent behind hiding the epics from players from the get-go would be to keep them a mystery until well into the game's life. If players knew the reqs. from the get-go, it would make things a lot easier for new players.

Kaddarsgirl isn't a know-all for the game (though she knows more than I do, and I'm level 157); none of the testers played all the options. It shouldn't matter what level she is though-- she simply asked that you edit your post to omit the giveaway. If she didn't, someone else would have; if they didn't, Terry or Wes would've edited it out themselves.


Well said, Kyle. You said it very nicely, definitely more nicely than I am capable of at the moment.

Quote:
None of the testers played all the options.


We did, actually. Just didn't get ALL. We still tried, though.
Posted by: johnh677

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:22 PM

I did not get credit in entertainment when I did the puzzle
Quiz - Beatles - Fractured Song Titles Part 2
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:25 PM

Dave, I wasn't trying to attack you at all. And the note I sent you was not mean in the slightest. I also didn't "order" you to do anything. I simply asked if you would please remove the specifics from your post and explained why. The note you sent to me privately, and these posts in this forum from you, however, are not kind at all.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 09:41 PM

“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
~ C.G. Jung
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:08 PM

The post sure seemed to change for being happy about getting an epic to not being happy in a hurry.
Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
I thought it had to be ASSIGNED to a player first?! They have to be challenged to get it in order to actually achieve it!

Now I'm even more curious about the Black Flag. The only way to get epic flags is to buy them and if you are lucky enough you get an epic. This is the "assign" part which cubswin2323 initially believed but somehow he was proven false.

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
They have to be challenged to get it in order to actually achieve it!

I believe this is the part where Wesley said some epics may seem too easy to be considered "epic" (while others may seem too difficult to be considered epic).

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323
It shouldn't make a dime's worth of a difference if it was designed correctly!

I'm curious to know how this statement fits in with the epic.
(I'm thinking some of what cubswin2323 said may not be entirely true, but I guess I have to wait until I get the black epic flag to determine that for myself.)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: cubswin2323

I thought it had to be ASSIGNED to a player first?! They have to be challenged to get it in order to actually achieve it!

It shouldn't make a dime's worth of a difference if it was designed correctly!


Huh?
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:34 PM

Jakeroo,
I've always thought we learned things in two steps:
1) The info is introduced to us and we file it away somewhere; and,
2) We go back and look on a shelf somewhere in our filing system and recognize what it was we'd stored away, polish the dust off and display it in a more quickly accessible spot.
Along those lines, I've felt that we can only recognize boorish behaviors by doing that step 2 part and seeing a bit of action we've performed ourselves, put on a shelf and, on introspection, assuming it was a thing that had come to us as a step 1 but which we'd actually caught ourselves doing and hidden it away from ourselves in a back closet, hoping never to have to know that about ourselves again. How telling it is when you hear a slurring comment on someone coming from someone else. (Was that Carl?) Jung said it so much better. I'd heard it before along the lines of "We only recognize the failings of others if we have found ourselves to be fallible in the same manner."
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 10:50 PM

Dave, you said you do not like kaddars asking you to edit your post because she's level 72. That makes no sense. Level doesn't matter. terry is level 60 and we do whatever he says. wink

And, as a level 155 player, I believe she was in the right for asking you to edit the post. Believe me, part of the fun is the mystery of what is to come, and knowing the details of the epic isn't what some players like to see.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:10 PM

I'm for freedom of expression. How am I to know what the powers that be want? It's going to get WORSE as MORE regular people know! I'm 4th. Wait a week. It will be ten times worse. Trying to contain it is futile! Don't EVEN try to stop it! You're a broom trying to stop the tide! Good luck with that!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:29 PM

263 people solved the Riddle, 501 people found the Treasure, 37 people broke the Code, and answers (and hints/clues) have not been given away. I suspect the same thing will happen with the Epic flags. While I would like a hint to the riddle or code (I already found the treasure), I know that's most likely not going to happen because there is a rule about it and because people are good at not divulging too much. If it can work with the Riddle, Treasure, and Code, I'm sure it will work with the Epic Challenges.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:32 PM

kaddarsgirl, you never made me angry before. I had ZERO idea of who you are on my radar...I KNOW who you are now! Congrats! Hope you're proud!
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
"Complete a Major FunTrivia Challenge that results in a badge being won. Note that mini-challenges do not count."

Not good for me today, Terry. I either have to be extremely lucky in hourly games, or come up with 71 more Fun Facts, or complete 30+ Crossword puzzles...guess I'll be buying a challenge today and hoping for something better...


I got that one yesterday. Luckily, I had not done the "Country Badge" yet, so I was able to accomplish it. Whew!
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:51 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Actually, a lot of the questions people have been asking can be answered by reading the FAQ or reading all of the words in the challenge descriptions....That is what the FAQ is there for too, to answer those kinds of questions.


Yes, I see your point, and we should always read the FAQs. But why keep a description that some find confusing or misleading? Why not remove any suggestion that there is something the user must search for?

So maybe... "Awarded to a player who completes the eight Epic daily challenges, which appear randomly in the Daily Challenge list when a player uses credits to buy additional challenges".
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:53 PM

Guys, there's no super secret here or anything. I haven't listed the requirements because it's kind of fun to discover them yourselves. Whether you tell other people or not is ultimately up to you, and there are much more important things I am concerned about.

What I don't want is people spamming my bug-reporting thread with pointless bickering.

Thank you.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Sep 28 2012 11:54 PM

mehaul: I continue to be bemused by the way you think. Feel free to pm me.

As for the black flag thing (not that I'll ever get there lol) I'm just sorry I missed the possible hints (giggles). And shrugs as well. I don't care what level anybody is. It's all just a game folks and some of us will get where we want to be, eventually.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Guys, there's no super secret here or anything. I haven't listed the requirements because it's kind of fun to discover them yourselves. Whether you tell other people or not is ultimately up to you, and there are much more important things I am concerned about.

What I don't want is people spamming my bug-reporting thread with pointless bickering.

Thank you.


Point taken. I pledge not to share information that I receive on my way to the Epics nor to berate those who try to keep things interesting for everyone by refraining from commenting and encouraging others to do the same. I pledge to play nice.

Sue
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:05 AM

Sue: you always play nice, no need to "pledge" : )))
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:15 AM

My Medium for today doesn't specify a mode: "Complete the crossword puzzle Totally Trivial #4 in the General category." Is that a typo or does is not really matter if I complete it in Easy or Hard mode?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:19 AM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Actually, a lot of the questions people have been asking can be answered by reading the FAQ or reading all of the words in the challenge descriptions....That is what the FAQ is there for too, to answer those kinds of questions.


Yes, I see your point, and we should always read the FAQs. But why keep a description that some find confusing or misleading? Why not remove any suggestion that there is something the user must search for?

So maybe... "Awarded to a player who completes the eight Epic daily challenges, which appear randomly in the Daily Challenge list when a player uses credits to buy additional challenges".



Seems fair enough smile If it's rewritten how you suggest, and a link to the FAQ is added, I think we have a winner!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:47 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
My Medium for today doesn't specify a mode: "Complete the crossword puzzle Totally Trivial #4 in the General category." Is that a typo or does is not really matter if I complete it in Easy or Hard mode?


Correct. You may use Easy Mode when playing a medium challenge. The equivalent difficult challenge disallows Easy Mode.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1

Now I'm even more curious about the Black Flag. The only way to get epic flags is to buy them and if you are lucky enough you get an epic. This is the "assign" part which cubswin2323 initially believed but somehow he was proven false.


What probably happened was that he received the Black Flag epic at a time he had unknowingly already met the conditions for it through regular play. Since most challenges look back and score previous play on the day they are given, he was thus left with nothing to do but claim it the second it was assigned.

This should however remain very unusual and rare. I can think only of a literal handful of players who would on any day have a chance to unknowingly meet those conditions before explicitly playing towards it - they are pretty specific and require some excellent scores.
Posted by: ga_jam831

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 02:59 AM

In my difficult challenge today, I am required to play 18 different quizzes. I am given a choice of 25 from which to choose. One of the quizzes I chose,as it is one in which I am comfortable playing, was denied to me because it was being used in the word twist game of the day. I had actually already played word twist. It would have been nice if it counted on both word twist and my challenge!
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:56 AM

My medium challenge for today is: "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them." but a. I cannot see where to find number of ratings and b. completed some that are quite old have sunglasses and played thousands of times but still reporting 0 complete. I am confused.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 04:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave42007
My medium challenge for today is: "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them." but a. I cannot see where to find number of ratings and b. completed some that are quite old have sunglasses and played thousands of times but still reporting 0 complete. I am confused.


On the intro page of each quiz, there is a block that looks like this:

Placed online: Sep 28, 2012
Modified: Sep 28, 2012
Times played: 12 - Rated: 2 times

The number in the bold section must be at least 20 and no larger than 50 for the quiz to count. A quiz with thousands of plays will usually have far more ratings.
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 04:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave42007
My medium challenge for today is: "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them." but a. I cannot see where to find number of ratings and b. completed some that are quite old have sunglasses and played thousands of times but still reporting 0 complete. I am confused.

Okay I have just done another, it was Placed online: Oct 25, 2009
Times played: 2943 - Rated: 461 times. I have rated it still no credit. It was:

Quiz - Word Melt 7

Drop a Letter

Quiz #318,238.
15 qns, rated Easy.
By eburge
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 04:30 AM

Sorry, I posted then read reply oops!
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 04:52 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Originally Posted By: Dave42007
My medium challenge for today is: "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them." but a. I cannot see where to find number of ratings and b. completed some that are quite old have sunglasses and played thousands of times but still reporting 0 complete. I am confused.


On the intro page of each quiz, there is a block that looks like this:

Placed online: Sep 28, 2012
Modified: Sep 28, 2012
Times played: 12 - Rated: 2 times

The number in the bold section must be at least 20 and no larger than 50 for the quiz to count. A quiz with thousands of plays will usually have far more ratings.


Sorry, I finally found one and success, it does work.
Posted by: lorance79

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 05:28 AM

I got the same challenge as Dave 42007 the other day: "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them."

As an author, I think this is a great challenge smile

Loving the game; thanks to all involved in setting it up.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 10:37 AM

I've had that one, too. It's a good challenge to help you find your way around the site. I found the best way of tracking down the quizzes was to go to the 'all new quizzes' section, and look for quizzes which had been online for 30 - 60 days. Any longer than that, they'd probably had too many ratings.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 10:54 AM

Try the Author Challenge quizzes list too-- lots of great, new quizzes in there, some of which could use help in the ratings. smile
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 11:12 AM

I have found that the challenge to do a quiz that goes online within the first 20 minutes a daunting task.
How many new quizzes go online in a day? Also, I think the editors do a wonderful job of only placing quality quizzes online.
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 11:26 AM

I LOVED the 'Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them', it was my favourite so far, I love challenges that send me hunting for something.

Today might be the first day I don't complete all three of my challenges, I've got Buzzy Bee and I don't think I've got the stamina for him today!
Posted by: zonko

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 11:53 AM

Must say the red flag on my profile does indeed look .... epic wink couldn't resist that one

Even though i had already fulfilled the requirements for this, will say i found what was needed to do was well balanced, would go into more detail why i thought it was fair but don't want to spill the beans

Just one question regarding the mini flags, will they be showing up in the challenge list at some future date or do i need to clean my glasses blush
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 11:59 AM

In the FAQ, it is mentioned they aren't in the challenge list in order to perserve the surprise. Although I guess it possible from them to appear there without the usual "The Challenge" text and with "Requirements" simply reading "Complete the red epic flag challenge" (or whatever color the flag is), but I think it's more likely they will never appear in the challenge list.
Posted by: zonko

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:12 PM

Ok, thanks for that
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Difficult
Score at least 118 correct answers playing For Children quizzes today.

I saw a "For Childen" right away in the quizbot list and played it but got no credits for the correct answers I submitted. Is this another case of it needing to be member authored quizzes? In essence, all the quizbot questions are from member authors just gathered together differently so why aren't the quizbots countable? There's only ten Qs and the topic might come up twice in a day in the Newest Mixed area at differing difficulties. That would still leave about a hundred to go find through the member authored route.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:40 PM

I'm always confused to see FC quizbot quizzes-- none of our Single Question submissions are allowed to be in FC; FC, Brain Teasers, and Video Games are the only categories not included.
Unless the challenge specifies quizbot quizzes (can't remember if any ever do), you will always be using the site's regular quizzes.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:42 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Originally Posted By: Difficult
Score at least 118 correct answers playing For Children quizzes today.

I saw a "For Childen" right away in the quizbot list and played it but got no credits for the correct answers I submitted. Is this another case of it needing to be member authored quizzes? In essence, all the quizbot questions are from member authors just gathered together differently so why aren't the quizbots countable? There's only ten Qs and the topic might come up twice in a day in the Newest Mixed area at differing difficulties. That would still leave about a hundred to go find through the member authored route.


All of the challenges which require certain scores or questions correct must be player-created quizzes. The random mixed ones created by the quizbot do not count for any such challenges. All the quizzes must be able to be found from clicking the main categories links on the left hand side of the Quizzyland homepage.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 12:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
I'm always confused to see FC quizbot quizzes-- none of our Single Question submissions are allowed to be in FC; FC, Brain Teasers, and Video Games are the only categories not included.
Unless the challenge specifies quizbot quizzes (can't remember if any ever do), you will always be using the site's regular quizzes.


I don't recall any of our challenges specifying quizbot quizzes. Scratch that, it has been pointed out there is. I guess I just never saw that one during testing.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:16 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
All of the challenges which require certain scores or questions correct must be player-created quizzes.


As kyle pointed out, all the questions in "For Children" Newest Mixed come from quizzes not single questions. There should be some verbage directing the player to whole, unmixed quizzes OR, accept the responses fron the Newest Mixed as good toward the challenge. As I pointed out above, you might see none, ten or twenty at most questions from the Newest Mixed area. Might you see one Q of them in a "For Children" single author quiz? Maybe, but unlikely with thousands of quizzes to choose from. Okay, there are thousands of Kids quizzes to choose from so what's the problem? Well, I just spent some of my valuable time on a quiz I expected to count. I did meet all the requirements stated in the challenge without having to go to read fine print on some other page that contains something about every aspect of the challenges (that page is nicely constructed by the way) and unless I form my query correctly might not get to the paragraph that answers my question. Change the wording of the challenge to exclude Newest Mixed or accept them, pretty please with sugar on top.
Posted by: DaisiJ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:22 PM

My Easy challenge yesterday was:

Play a mixed quiz (as listed on the homepage under Newest Mixed Quizzes) and score 642 points. Click the PLAY link (not HTML) for credit.

Isn't that a quizbot game? If not then I've been playing happily and not noticing what I'm doing, which is entirely possible. blush
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:26 PM

Quote:
As I pointed out above, you might see none, ten or twenty at most questions from the Newest Mixed area. Might you see one Q of them in a "For Children" single author quiz?


?

Quote:
There should be some verbage directing the player to whole, unmixed quizzes OR, accept the responses fron the Newest Mixed as good toward the challenge.


It would ultimately be Terry's call. My presumption (which may be wrong) is that they don't count because your scores are not held for the mixed quizzes appearing on the homepage-- you can't, for instance, look at your results for them once they disappear and they're likely not stored long-term anywhere on the site. They're literally random pulls; you can't find them in the For Children category.

Might as well tell people that playing FC in the Global Challenge doesn't count either-- or the FC Easy Game-- or any FC in Point Tree. wink

Quote:
Well, I just spent some of my valuable time on a quiz I expected to count.


You got the points; not a complete loss.


Quote:
My Easy challenge yesterday was:

Play a mixed quiz (as listed on the homepage under Newest Mixed Quizzes) and score 642 points. Click the PLAY link (not HTML) for credit.

Isn't that a quizbot game? If not then I've been playing happily and not noticing what I'm doing, which is entirely possible. blush


Woops-- you're right. Haven't seen that one myself.
Posted by: Snowman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:30 PM

Just a small nitpicking point (hey, I'm an editor--it goes with the territory) but my medium challenge today was "Set up your personal daily quiz for medium difficulty level and score at least 9 out of 10 correct." There is no "medium" level - just "intermediate". I'm sure everyone can work it out but it ought to be corrected in case anyone is in doubt.
Posted by: trans991

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:51 PM

Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them.
2.3 "Blood is Thicker"
All of these questions pertain to the episode titled, "Blood is Thicker", which was the third episode of season two. Good luck!
'Las Vegas'- Season 2 Average
10 Q
CAGuy0206
May 04 12
45 plays

3.1 "Viva Las Vegas"
All of these questions pertain to the episode titled, "Viva Las Vegas", which was the first episode of season three. Good luck!
'Las Vegas'- Season 3 Average
10 Q
CAGuy0206
May 27 12
36 plays

3.2 "Fake the Money and Run"
All of these questions pertain to the episode titled, "Fake the Money and Run", which was the second episode of season three. Good luck!
'Las Vegas'- Season 3 Average
10 Q
CAGuy0206
May 28 12
45 plays

3.3 "Double Down, Triple Threat"
All of these questions pertain to the episode titled, "Double Down, Triple Threat", which was the third episode of season three. Good luck!
'Las Vegas'- Season 3 Average
10 Q
CAGuy0206
May 28 12
42 plays

3.4 "Whatever Happened to Seymour Magoon?"
All of these questions pertain to the episode titled, "Whatever Happened to Seymour Magoon?", which was the fourth episode of season three. Good luck!
'Las Vegas'- Season 3 Tough
10 Q
CAGuy0206
May 29 12
39 plays
\
Played these quizzes and rated--no credit on challenge
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:52 PM

It's the amount of ratings-- that first one only has 11. The quizzes need at least 20 (and no more than 50).
Posted by: trans991

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:54 PM

I'm sorry...missed that...
Thank you for your quick answer!!
Posted by: Lottie1001

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 01:56 PM

Since the quizzes have between 36 and 45 plays, they are unlikely to have been rated as many as 20 times, yet.

Sorry - Kyle beat me to the answer.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 02:48 PM

Does that guideline "every rating means three plays" because of non rating-able guests and non-GMs? Meaning: to see between 20 and 50 ratings there needs to have been between 60 and 150 plays?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 02:54 PM

Quote:
Does that guideline "every rating means three plays" because of non rating-able guests and non-GMs? Meaning: to see between 20 and 50 ratings there needs to have been between 60 and 150 plays?


If I'm understanding what you're saying/asking correctly, that's not really how the ratings work. While the number of quiz plays is multiplied by three to represent the amount of actual plays it has (across all members and guests), the amount of ratings is not an inflated number. The amount of ratings listed is the actual amount of ratings. Non-members can't rate, so the number doesn't need to be altered.

There is not necessarily a correlation between amount of plays and amount of ratings. After all, non-gold-members can still play quizzes, but their scores and ratings are not tracked for them. In addition, if you play a quiz and score under two correct, you can not rate a quiz but you're still registered with a score.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:18 PM

I only meant that as a guidline itself. That if people are looking for quizzes with 20 to 50 ratings and the first figure they encounter is the number of plays, that to find quizzes with between 20 and 50 ratings one might look for the range of plays to be between 60 and 150, not that it would be a set rule but just a ballpark figure to search on. You may miss some with 21 ratings or look further at a few with 52 ratings but most will have the desired range of the search.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:27 PM

Maybe it's just from being on the authoring end, but I find that the ratio for ratings is usually 5:1 or 6:1 (for the inflated numbers). I have a lot of quizzes that list over 100 plays, but I only have 10 ratings. Just like the numbers behind the ratings, it's near impossible to appropriately judge how many ratings a quiz will have. I'm just saying it's a slippery ballpark. wink

My Historical Stick Figures one has 7596 plays. Divided by three, that would imply 2532 members, yet the quiz has only 1291 ratings. That implies only one sixth of the original number. With 150 plays, that would be 25 ratings, towards the bottom of the range. 60 plays would mean about 10 ratings.

But that really doesn't hold true for all of them. I have 20 ratings on one quiz with under 120 plays. I have some with 9 ratings on 120 plays.

Another case-- '5,000' plays on both of these:
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/VideoGames/Super-Mario-64---One-Per-Level-220966.html
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Movies/Alphabetical-Horror-Films---B-264577.html
The former has 336 ratings; the latter has 573.


The best way is simply to check the number of ratings on the quiz page before jumping into the quiz and hoping you got it right.


I can look at ratings all I want on here and I may never find a pattern. XD
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:40 PM

Modified the text for a couple of the challenges mentioned above to be more specific and offer more guidelines.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Originally Posted By: Difficult
Score at least 118 correct answers playing For Children quizzes today.

I saw a "For Childen" right away in the quizbot list and played it but got no credits for the correct answers I submitted. Is this another case of it needing to be member authored quizzes? In essence, all the quizbot questions are from member authors just gathered together differently so why aren't the quizbots countable? There's only ten Qs and the topic might come up twice in a day in the Newest Mixed area at differing difficulties. That would still leave about a hundred to go find through the member authored route.


This challenge even has a link to the "For Children's" quiz category, where there are no quizbot quizzes listed. I would have thought that would be specific enough?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: mehaul
Originally Posted By: Difficult
Score at least 118 correct answers playing For Children quizzes today.

I saw a "For Childen" right away in the quizbot list and played it but got no credits for the correct answers I submitted. Is this another case of it needing to be member authored quizzes? In essence, all the quizbot questions are from member authors just gathered together differently so why aren't the quizbots countable? There's only ten Qs and the topic might come up twice in a day in the Newest Mixed area at differing difficulties. That would still leave about a hundred to go find through the member authored route.


This challenge even has a link to the "For Children's" quiz category, where there are no quizbot quizzes listed. I would have thought that would be specific enough?


Tweaked to:

Score at least 118 correct answers playing quizzes in the For Children category and its sub-categories today.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:49 PM

Zonko: congrats! I think I will change that epic for the future such that it doesn't count scores prior to it being issued. That one is a little anti-climactic to have it won before you even have to try anything!
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:49 PM

Thank You.

Since these challenges are going to be coming to us and not be repeating very often, it would become a non-fun burden to have to refer to the FAQs every day for three topics and to make sure we have our query aimed at the right place. Much more fun to have the specifics spelled out in the challenge itself.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:55 PM

Zonko: I have reset your challenge to "incomplete" for testing purposes, and it will check your scores from now until the end of the day.

Would you mind playing your required game a couple of times so I can test if it's all working fine?

Don't worry about the incomplete -- your epic was well earned and stands smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 03:56 PM

" Much more fun to have the specifics spelled out in the challenge itself"

Completely agree. There should be zero questions asked about a challenge on threads like this. All challenge text should be completely unambiguous.
Posted by: zonko

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Zonko: I have reset your challenge to "incomplete" for testing purposes, and it will check your scores from now until the end of the day.

Would you mind playing your required game a couple of times so I can test if it's all working fine?

Don't worry about the incomplete -- your epic was well earned and stands smile


Just checked my challenges and seen the epic had reset sounds of unmentionable words could be heard cry so checked my mail and my profile and noticed they was still there .... so scratching my head thought i would post on here only to see the above post.

No probs helping out now my heart has gone back to a normalish beat blush
Posted by: zonko

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 04:55 PM

Terry epic done and check mark awarded again, was going to mention about the epic count on my stats and credits as they had gone up but they are now back to what they was before. Do you want to reset my check mark for the epic so i can go again?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 06:07 PM

Nope all looks good. Thanks.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: DaisiJ
My Easy challenge yesterday was:

Play a mixed quiz (as listed on the homepage under Newest Mixed Quizzes) and score 642 points. Click the PLAY link (not HTML) for credit.


I got this one once in testing. There are others appearing that I've not seen before, although along the same lines. For instance, my Difficult today is "Score a Word Wizard Gold Member Game word of exactly 8 letters." which has probably come up in testing, I've just never got it, and I won't today, either. Don't think I even have eight letters, and if I do, most are vowels. :-P
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 07:16 PM

I managed to buy myself an Epic challenge... and it's for something that I just achieved five minutes prior to having the challenge issued to me. Of course only achievements got AFTER the issuing the challenge will count. This is a cruel, cruel random issuing!!! tongue
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 07:18 PM

Congrats-- I'm still hoping I get one soon. wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Sep 29 2012 07:38 PM

Good luck GG smile
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 12:04 AM

Congrats to GG for getting it! smile
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 08:14 AM

My easy today is score 6 in a quiz of the hour. I played and got exactly 6, but it was still incomplete. Have just played again and got over 6 and it is now complete. Was this because the first one I played was a 15 question quiz not a 10? The challenge didn't say it had to be a 10 question quiz, just to score 6.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 08:39 AM

Thanks Christinap -- found a minor bug that caused that issue. Fixed.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 08:39 AM

"Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them."

Just how many times do you think you can use this challenge? It would appear to me to get pretty much impossible very quickly.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 08:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
"Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have between 20 and 50 ratings. Play and rate them."

Just how many times do you think you can use this challenge? It would appear to me to get pretty much impossible very quickly.


Not if we keep writing quizzes. grin
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 09:00 AM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Congrats to GG for getting it! smile


laugh why thank you! I was surprised yet thrilled that I did pull it off
Posted by: Rowena8482

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 09:18 AM

It would be nice if that one said "find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have less than 50 ratings..." that way ones that are still needing to get to 20 could be included. I know the badge and the list and the extra points helped but there are still some that take a good while to get the "Magic 20" - it would be lovely if they got a teeny boost too.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 09:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Rowena8482
It would be nice if that one said "find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have less than 50 ratings..." that way ones that are still needing to get to 20 could be included. I know the badge and the list and the extra points helped but there are still some that take a good while to get the "Magic 20" - it would be lovely if they got a teeny boost too.

Agree. Changed.

p.s. there are THOUSANDS of quizzes that meet even the original criteria. There is no risk of such quizzes running out or even getting sparse any year soon.
Posted by: Windswept

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 11:36 AM

Hi everyone,
Yesterday Saturday September 29th, I received an epic challenge to be in the top 20 scorers of the day. I ended up 15 out of 20, I believe and today I do not see that I was awarded a badgelet for this completing this epic challenge.
Others have told me there are epic badgelets showing up for other winners.
Is this just a delay? or is my completing the epic challenge not noted?
Windswept
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Windswept
Hi everyone,
Yesterday Saturday September 29th, I received an epic challenge to be in the top 20 scorers of the day. I ended up 15 out of 20, I believe and today I do not see that I was awarded a badgelet for this completing this epic challenge.
Others have told me there are epic badgelets showing up for other winners.
Is this just a delay? or is my completing the epic challenge not noted?
Windswept


Is this an example of the one that is impossible to get because the tally comes out after the epics are awarded?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 02:21 PM

Fixed Windswept. The scoring checker forgot to check that epic last night. Should be fixed from here on out.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 02:21 PM

ps congrats on the first blue flag smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 03:44 PM

"Brain twist and mixed multi-author quizzes do not count. You may take quizzes you have not played within the past 30 days."

Might I suggest changing "You may take quizzes" to "You may retake quizzes" so that it matches the other challenges with the same phrase?
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 03:58 PM

Doesn't that imply that you've had to have already taken the quizzes to get them counted this time? Wouldn't "take or retake" be the appropriate verbage?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 04:01 PM

Not really. The text would be "you may retake" not "you have to retake". The latter would imply that while the former wouldn't. "You may retake" means that you have the option to retake.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 04:20 PM

Kaddarsgirl only posted the last half of the challenge req. as well. The first part asks you to play so-and-so many quizzes in a particular section or with a specific guideline. Adding the word 'take' again would be redundant.
Posted by: Rowena8482

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 04:24 PM

OOO Thanks Terry laugh (I shall carefully refrain from pointing in the direction of any of my own quizzes that would now benefit, oh yes I shall...:D )
Posted by: demurechicky

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 04:40 PM

I was saving my credits for the '10 a day', however, I foolishly clicked on the 'spend 9 credits for a new challenge', just to see how it worked.

Curiosity sure got the better of me, it gave me a new challenge immediately! C'est la vie, I shan't be doing that again lol
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 04:56 PM

But that's the only way to get an Epic, so heads you win, tails you win. It all works out in the end.
Posted by: demurechicky

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 05:04 PM

I wasn't interested in getting an Epic at the moment I clicked, as it was nearly bedtime. I got a 'complete a new quiz within 20 minutes of it going on line', alas no new quizzes since I clicked and am now late to bed frown

It has been a learning curve...next time I click, it'll be very early in my day, so I can devote more time to the challenge. I just didn't expect a new challenge immediately, I thought there may have been an explanation of the credits there, a bit like the 'challenge swap', where it gives you the option to use the ability after you have clicked.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 05:15 PM

I had the Twin challenge today and we managed to get the same score and have the green check. Does that mean I can't play anymore today?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 05:17 PM

If you have the check, you can play whatever you want-- you've won the challenge.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 05:18 PM

No. I'm pretty sure it just means you don't need to worry about that challenge anymore. Sort of like if you have a challenge that says "Be #1 in any hourly game in your division" it does not mean once you are #1, you can't play any more hourly games in future hours.

EDIT: Kyle beat me to it.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 05:29 PM

Thank you. I was feeling FunTrivia withdrawal symptoms!
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 07:18 PM

Just want to say that I'm thoroughly enjoying the new challenges, some of which really stretch me in areas I'm not so comfortable, but so far it's all good:)

Terry and Wes (+?)thanks so much for all of the work this has entailed and for your speedy help in sorting out the bugs ~ much appreciated.
Posted by: AlanHill2306

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 09:16 PM

Thanks Terry and all the others involved for the successful introduction of yet another wonderful feature of Funtrivia. The idea is brilliant and will keep everyone entertained for a long time.

The number of posts reflects the interest members have in this new feature. It must have been a busy week for you and the team.

I really enjoy playing the Daily Challenge and it's my first port of call when I log on to see what I need to do that day.

Great work!
Posted by: CliftonClowers

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 09:58 PM

I read in the FAQ that "Completing an epic challenge will not exclude it from later selections". That will certainly make it progressively more difficult to obtain the Totally Epic badge as you accumulate flags. If getting an epic with a buy has fairly low odds alone, getting the last one you need out of 8 in addition would seem to be quite a long shot. Am I missing something?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Sep 30 2012 10:06 PM

Not really. Some badges are difficult to obtain.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
"Brain twist and mixed multi-author quizzes do not count. You may take quizzes you have not played within the past 30 days."

Might I suggest changing "You may take quizzes" to "You may retake quizzes" so that it matches the other challenges with the same phrase?






Re
"You may take quizzes you have not played within the past 30 days"

It means (surely?) "You may ONLY take quizzes you have not played within the past 30 days"

A suitable text change would be: "Quizzes you have played within the past 30 days do not count!"


Unless the "not" is a typo?

Does it mean "You may re-take quizzes as long as you have not played them within the last 30 days?"


Originally Posted By: demurechicky
I just didn't expect a new challenge immediately, I thought there may have been an explanation of the credits there, a bit like the 'challenge swap', where it gives you the option to use the ability after you have clicked.


I made that assumption too and got caught on my first purchase. All I can say is that it only took one click to learn to be careful with my credits, lol!


Originally Posted By: AlanHill2306
Thanks Terry and all the others involved for the successful introduction of yet another wonderful feature of Funtrivia. The idea is brilliant and will keep everyone entertained for a long time.

The number of posts reflects the interest members have in this new feature. It must have been a busy week for you and the team.

I really enjoy playing the Daily Challenge and it's my first port of call when I log on to see what I need to do that day.

Great work!


Seconded! with bells on. smile
Posted by: lorance79

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 01:33 AM

Not a bug but a question, if I may:

Of the various challenges that are mini-scavenger hunts (specifically, where a list of quizzes is provided in the challenge question), are the quizzes included randomised as well

BTW, I got the 3 Ps one today and was quite taken by it. Very creative!
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 05:10 AM

I received this as a Medium Challenge:
Play our Quick Quiz and bank at least 16 correct questions.
None yet. Incomplete



I banked over 40 correct questions. Could someone please check into it?
Thanks
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 05:23 AM

Emma,

are you sure you have actually banked (converted to points) those questions? You need to do that before it will count and it's quite easy to miss that final click.



Posted by: mayneeyak

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 06:01 AM

Sorry if this is a repeated question, but I don't see my earlier query here.
I have definitely completed the required Daily quizzes to total 7. I even did them all twice and three times to make sure, and I have not received my mini-challenge badge for completing 7 daily quizzes.
What am I missing here?
Your help is appreciated.

yak smile
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 06:13 AM

Thank you; you were correct, I forget to hit the convert to points button.
Again, thanks for all you do. It is appreciated.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 07:00 AM

Terry, can a line be added to that challenge saying "Make sure you convert your questions to points for credit." ?

This is not the first time someone has been confused about banking the questions.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 07:09 AM

yak, you must complete seven daily challenges, not daily quizzes.

You have only two complete challenges, both from today.
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 08:57 AM

You are correct. That added line would be helpful. You see I banked them, and thought that once I hit the 16 without converting them that I would receive that daily challenge.
Since I can play more than 16, I was led to believe that there would be no need to hit the convert to points button until I had reached the 75 number.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 10:03 AM

Emma, you can't bank questions without converting them to points.
This was my initial assumption, so I decided to play Quick Quiz to figure it out, and that does appear to be how it works.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 10:43 AM

Perhaps part of the problem is the wording in the game itself, not the new challenge. To "do banking" (as in transactions) is not quite the same thing as "banking SOMEthing". Banking/storing money or commodities implies that you are "saving them up for another day". But "converting" the correct q's to points is really like spending or making a withdrawal from your questions "account" : ) It's a little misleading (on the first attempt anyway lol - and I do remember some very minor issues with it when the QQuiz game was brand new).
___________________________

After you answer your very first question in Quick Quiz, this message appears at the bottom:
You may bank your correct answers for points when you answer at least 3 correctly (1 so far).

Perhaps replace "for points" to "by converting them to points"?
___________________________________

The wording shows up again in the blurb on the page when you END the game and has two sentences that speak about "banking". One is:
Regular players get a pool of 100 questions every day, and may bank 20 correct answers per day (max 200 points).

It (may or may not lol) be helpful if the second part was changed to read:
"and may bank 20 correct answers per day by converting them to points (max 200 points)"

............
Anyhoo, congrats to all the "Flag Bearers" so far!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
[quote=kaddarsgirl]"Brain twist and mixed multi-author quizzes do not count. You may take quizzes you have not played within the past 30 days."

Might I suggest changing "You may take quizzes" to "You may retake quizzes" so that it matches the other challenges with the same phrase?


What is written is accurate...

You may take quizzes you have not played within the past 30 days.

So, if you have NOT taken quiz X within the past 30 days, then you MAY take it now. That is consistent with the intended meaning.

I agree that it could be worded better though, and will alter it.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 10:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Emma, you can't bank questions without converting them to points.
This was my initial assumption, so I decided to play Quick Quiz to figure it out, and that does appear to be how it works.


Quick quiz challenges clarified for those not familiar with quick quiz.
Posted by: mayneeyak

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 11:23 AM

LOLOLOL I use to sit around all day and dream one day of having a brain I could call my very own.
Thank you Wesley for pointing out my "oversight".

Yak smile
Posted by: fredsixties

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 11:30 AM

Got a quick question and I apologize if it has been asked before. Once you complete a challenge, it is possible for it to appear again later? Can you get the sme challenge more than once if you are successful in completing it?
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: fredsixties
Got a quick question and I apologize if it has been asked before. Once you complete a challenge, it is possible for it to appear again later? Can you get the sme challenge more than once if you are successful in completing it?


Yes, I know of players who have had the same challenge after completing it once. Also, I think it's been mentioned there are around 70 different challenges, so naturally repeats would be required to win the badge for completing 200 of each difficulty.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 11:42 AM

You might run into exactly the same challenge (for instance win a certain game) or into a similar challenge (for instance: on day 1 you have to answer 26 correctly in Mind Melt - a medium challenge, on day 4 you have to answer 22 correctly in Mind Melt - an easy challenge).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 01 2012 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By: JanIQ
You might run into exactly the same challenge (for instance win a certain game) or into a similar challenge (for instance: on day 1 you have to answer 26 correctly in Mind Melt - a medium challenge, on day 4 you have to answer 22 correctly in Mind Melt - an easy challenge).


Also, you cannot get the exact challenge you complete when you buy a new one the same day, and you cannot get the exact challenge tomorrow if you complete it today.
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 09:02 AM

Just a note that my easy challenge today which requires playing Mind Melt ... Mind Melt is not hyperlinked to the game page.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 09:36 AM

I would like to also ask for that hyperlink to be added. It's been mentioned quite a few times in the various testing threads and whatnot. I would imagine it's not too difficult to add?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 09:44 AM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
I would like to also ask for that hyperlink to be added. It's been mentioned quite a few times in the various testing threads and whatnot. I would imagine it's not too difficult to add?


There are a few others that have been brought up too, but off the top of my head I can't remember which ones they were.
Posted by: bushidox

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 09:51 AM

Not a bug per se, but an observation.

Yesterday, I had the Medium Challenge of: "Rumor has it that you scored 976 points in the Piece of Cake game on Sep 27". As this score, is, as far as I can remember it, my own personal best, that was extremely daunting. I tried and failed to get 976, by getting 975 twice, 974 and 972, narrowly missing the goal, but having a great deal of fun in the process.

Today, I was tasked as a Difficult challenge to: "Score a cumulative total of at least 7937 points in the Word Wizard hourly game". As you can get more than 1400 points an hour, for many people this would only take 6 or 7 hourly games with a reasonable total.

Now, I understand people have different strengths and weaknesses, and can invest differing amounts of time daily to the site. My suggestion is to swap these two, or at the least make beating a personal best a difficult category, as that seems more in line with the challenge level. You guys know better, having done more thorough testing, but I would guess that most people have rather difficult personal best scores to beat, thereby making it difficult rather than medium.

Just a thought. Even though I failed yesterday, I had a lot of fun trying! So far, other than the category score, which you adjusted already, I have thought each level to be fair. 6/5/2 completed for reference.
Posted by: Windswept

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 10:01 AM

I have I think a new topic. Today my easy challenge was to evaluate the questions in the New Question Game. I played the game on my mobile device and it said that since my screen was not big enough, the evaluating of new questions had been disabled. So I cannot do this challenge due to no reason on my part.

So, what can I do? If I had known that this would happen, I would have gone later to my desktop?

Windswept
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 10:04 AM

Bushidox, some difficult challenges aren't that difficult; some medium challenges feel very difficult. One person can think a difficult challenge is easy; another can feel it's too difficult. That's just the way things are. (I myself once had a medium challenge that felt like a difficult challenge, although I'm sure there were those who felt otherwise.)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 10:12 AM

Bushidox, it's just bad luck that your personal best got chosen for the challenge. It randomly chooses a score to attach as a goal to a challenge. This type of challenge appears at several difficulty levels, with varying scores based on how well you have done in the past. From the scores you posted for your "attempts", though, it appears that all of your scores are very high, and you will therefore see much less variation than players who have a wide range of scores to choose from. Does that make sense? Because you do so well, your to-beat score is higher than others getting the same challenge, because they perhaps do not have as many good scores as you do.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 10:46 AM

Actually Kaddarsgirl, if I remember correctly there is one challenge which seems to take a personal best score, at least within the last x months. In testing the phrasing led me to believe that anyway. I seem to remember saying something about it in the testing thread, about Terry having a laugh or pulling the wings off flies - or maybe that was about another of his twisted tasks, lol. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it was a PB score and like Bushidox I enjoyed trying to beat it and also like Buddy, I failed.

Now then young Terry, if I might have a word in your ear? Some of my fellow Llamas have started to call me "Floppy" and one or two of the more foolhardy have even called me "cute". As this is entirely your fault, I expect reparation! Send that little Perfect Score badge my way or the duck gets it. wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 10:52 AM

Originally Posted By: bushidox
or at the least make beating a personal best a difficult category, as that seems more in line with the challenge level.


You got unlucky! That challenge just takes a random recent score of yours (minus any that the system deems to be unfairly low).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 11:23 AM

Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
Actually Kaddarsgirl, if I remember correctly there is one challenge which seems to take a personal best score, at least within the last x months. In testing the phrasing led me to believe that anyway. I seem to remember saying something about it in the testing thread, about Terry having a laugh or pulling the wings off flies - or maybe that was about another of his twisted tasks, lol.


I thought that was one of the flags....could be wrong though...I definitely remember you saying something about those flies though...
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 01:37 PM

Daikenro a member of The Internationals, has been given the following task in the Daily Challenge:

Rank 1st or 2nd in Obscurity.

Daikenro is not a gold member so there is no way they are going to be able to complete this challenge.

I think this happened to another player recently and the bug had been fixed. Is it possible for their challenge to be changed?

Thanks smile
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 07:05 PM

My medium challenge today was to play 4 player-created quizzes in a row rated Average, Tough or Difficult quizzes. I was given credit for playing one of the Newest Mixed Quizzes, which I didn't notice until I finished.
Posted by: Daikenro

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 07:40 PM

For my Difficult challenge today I need to "Rank 1st or 2nd in your division in an hourly game of Obscurity." Since I'm not a Gold Member, I cannot play Obscurity. I guess this is a bug and that I should never get this challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 02 2012 11:35 PM

Thanks for the report Daikenro -- indeed there was a bug in that challenge, and it's been fixed for the future.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 12:37 AM

Hi,

I've been credited with a medium challenge that I haven't completed. I've got a tick beside today's "Who Am I?" challenge, and the extra 2 credits, but I haven't played it yet.

(It might be connected to the nemesis challenge as I wasn't credited with that earlier although that has now corrected itself.)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
(It might be connected to the nemesis challenge as I wasn't credited with that earlier although that has now corrected itself.)


I didn't get credited for my Nemesis win, either, until I clicked on "Yesterday's Challenges". It then awarded the check and the 3 credits...Terry is this a problem that can be fixed? Before it awards the check, even though it says it records the 11:50 scores, it still gives a loading message, then shows the next day's scores? When I clicked on "Yesterday's Challenges", only then did it show yesterday's correct totals, giving me credit for the win.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 12:58 AM

I am a little unclear on this one: Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 16 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days.

Please tell me "categories" doesn't mean Video Games, Humanities, Sci/Tech, etc. Or is it just different categories within the encompassing subjects?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
I am a little unclear on this one: Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 16 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days.

Please tell me "categories" doesn't mean Video Games, Humanities, Sci/Tech, etc. Or is it just different categories within the encompassing subjects?


"Categories" means each of the main 20, so yes, sorry, it does mean Video Games, Humanities, Sci/Tech, etc. Good luck!!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:02 AM

"Today you will be playing I'm the Expert! against another player. Whoever holds the highest score today in a single Who's the Expert hourly game at midnight will win this challenge. Only your first 4 plays of this game today will be considered for this challenge, so pick your attempts wisely! Your opponent for the day is player xxxxxxxxx"

Terry, I went to my swap-a-challenge button and noticed that this challenge can be swapped out for a new one. Since this challenge, like Nemesis/Twin relies on competition/collaboration with another player, might I suggest that this also be added to the list of challenges that cannot be swapped out?
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:04 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: Chavs
(It might be connected to the nemesis challenge as I wasn't credited with that earlier although that has now corrected itself.)


I didn't get credited for my Nemesis win, either, until I clicked on "Yesterday's Challenges". It then awarded the check and the 3 credits...Terry is this a problem that can be fixed? Before it awards the check, even though it says it records the 11:50 scores, it still gives a loading message, then shows the next day's scores? When I clicked on "Yesterday's Challenges", only then did it show yesterday's correct totals, giving me credit for the win.


I clicked on "Yesterday's Challenges" at one stage too while I was waiting to see if the page would correct itself - so maybe that's what happened to my nemesis.


My medium challenge credit might be a separate bug then.




(Or I could be sleep-quizzing. I've sleep texted before. shocked )
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl


"Categories" means each of the main 20, so yes, sorry, it does mean Video Games, Humanities, Sci/Tech, etc. Good luck!!


Damn. But, thanks for the info, lol!
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:19 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
"Today you will be playing I'm the Expert! against another player. Whoever holds the highest score today in a single Who's the Expert hourly game at midnight will win this challenge. Only your first 4 plays of this game today will be considered for this challenge, so pick your attempts wisely! Your opponent for the day is player xxxxxxxxx"

Terry, I went to my swap-a-challenge button and noticed that this challenge can be swapped out for a new one. Since this challenge, like Nemesis/Twin relies on competition/collaboration with another player, might I suggest that this also be added to the list of challenges that cannot be swapped out?


I had that exact challenge yesterday and it could not be swapped. And, believe me, I tried. And, FYI, the mulligan does not work after the fourth game has been played!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:22 AM

Did it give you the option to swap it out, and it just didn't let you do anything when you clicked the button, or did it not even give you the challenge in the list for the swap?

It shows up in my list as being eligible to swap. I'm not going to try the link though (the one to actually switch it), as with today's categories I think I have a pretty good chance at it...
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:25 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Did it give you the option to swap it out, and it just didn't let you do anything when you clicked the button, or did it not even give you the challenge in the list for the swap?

It shows up in my list as being eligible to swap. I'm not going to try the link though (the one to actually switch it), as with today's categories I think I have a pretty good chance at it...


The button was active and it was listed as a choice. But no go.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
The button was active and it was listed as a choice. But no go.


Hmm...that's rather odd. Nemesis and Twin, and the Epics, don't show up in the lists at all. Very strange indeed.
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:48 AM

Hope Daikenro got a new challenge, or even better, a completion of task and a few nice credits smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:57 AM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
And, FYI, the mulligan does not work after the fourth game has been played!


Just used my Mulligan after 2 plays. It added a third play like it was supposed to, Terry. Good thing I got 15/15 on my Mulligan (replacing 14/15), or it would have been a total waste of a perk (took a couple lucky guesses to pull it off, and in one of my best categories, too)...
Posted by: english_gent

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:10 AM

Very stupid question but that won't stop me from asking.

Where do I find the Quiz Game mode??? And how stupid am I going to look when somebody tells me???
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:10 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
And, FYI, the mulligan does not work after the fourth game has been played!


Just used my Mulligan after 2 plays. It added a third play like it was supposed to, Terry. Good thing I got 15/15 on my Mulligan (replacing 14/15), or it would have been a total waste of a perk (took a couple lucky guesses to pull it off, and in one of my best categories, too)...


I look at it differently. A mulligan technically replaces play, and it should not add on an additional play. If it truly is a mulligan, which it is NOT! LOL.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:13 AM

Technically, though, it is a third play. When you use it you do get a brand new set of questions. The way the challenge is currently worded, it makes sense that the Mulligan would count for an additional play. I agree, though, it's not truly a Mulligan unless it replaces both the score and the play.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:15 AM

Originally Posted By: english_gent
Very stupid question but that won't stop me from asking.

Where do I find the Quiz Game mode??? And how stupid am I going to look when somebody tells me???



When you go to a quiz, any quiz (except the Mixed on the Homepage where you click "Play"), on the right-hand side where it gives you the play options, choose "Play: Quiz Game".
Posted by: english_gent

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:16 AM

Thank you kaddersgirl - Much appreciated smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:17 AM

No problem laugh
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 02:17 AM

Originally Posted By: english_gent
Where do I find the Quiz Game mode???


When you start to take a quiz written by a person, not the Quizbot, you will see that you have a choice of ways in which to take it - (from top to bottom if all three are available for that quiz) Play: Quiz Game has an hourglass beside it; Play: HTML has what looks like a numbered list beside it; Play: Flash Quiz has what looks like a reel of film beside it. These options are shown on the right side of the screen, beside the introduction.
Posted by: HazelEyes19

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 04:47 AM

I'm feeling a bit confused:
My challenge was to score at least 50% in yesterday's braintwist. I got 0% but I still got the credit for it?

I'm sorry I didn't report this yesterday - it was quite late at night that I realised this had happened and I didn't have a registered log-on for these forums, so I had to wait until this morning when I had been approved to post this.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 04:52 AM

This is my easy challenge for the day:



Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "So".


I played a quiz called "Somewhere in Time" and it didn't count it. Any idea why?
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 06:03 AM

So did Daikenro get credits then Terry? Remember after all he couldn't play that Challenge.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 06:40 AM

Golfmom, maybe a silly suggestion on my part but had you already played the quiz within the last 30 days? It seems to be a default setting that any quizzes played within the previous 30 days won't count. Just a thought.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 07:30 AM

Loved my difficult challenge today it was for Mind Melt and said Score at least 30 questions correct in todays's Mind Melt! This implies you can get more than 30 correct answers. lol
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 07:31 AM

I just checked my yesterdays results and there is a second challenge in my 'medium' category that wasn't there yesterday for me to play.

I'm presuming I might have bought one by mistake as I think my point total has gone down as well. It wasn't there when I looked at 1230 my time (1.5 hrs before day ends) and I would never have deliberately bought one then.

I haven't purchased a challenge yet - does it have a thing you have to press once you get to the page to confirm (which I didn't do) or does it do it automatically if you press the link (which is always possible that I might have done)?
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 07:48 AM

It does it automatically when you click - several people seem to have been caught by that. So the trick is... stop clicking! wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:38 AM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
I am a little unclear on this one: Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 16 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days.

Please tell me "categories" doesn't mean Video Games, Humanities, Sci/Tech, etc. Or is it just different categories within the encompassing subjects?


Example added to text.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:38 AM

Hmmm, there should be an intermediate page then, to prevent that from happening again.



Quote:
This is my easy challenge for the day:



Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "So".


I played a quiz called "Somewhere in Time" and it didn't count it. Any idea why?




What was the exact title called? If it begins with a quotation mark, it DOES NOT count. I searched for the quiz, and I cannot find a quiz called Somewhere in Time. I can only find them called 'Somewhere in Time' and "Somewhere in Time".

In which case, the first letters are technically 'S or "S.



It's tricky, but that's how it works. The VERY FIRST letters have to be So. I had checked that out myself with the quotations, because I was curious. wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:46 AM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
I am a little unclear on this one: Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 16 different categories. You may replay quizzes not taken over the past 30 days.

Please tell me "categories" doesn't mean Video Games, Humanities, Sci/Tech, etc. Or is it just different categories within the encompassing subjects?


Example added to text.
Originally Posted By: Chavs
Hi,

I've been credited with a medium challenge that I haven't completed. I've got a tick beside today's "Who Am I?" challenge, and the extra 2 credits, but I haven't played it yet.

(It might be connected to the nemesis challenge as I wasn't credited with that earlier although that has now corrected itself.)



Heh... what it looks like happened is that you received the challenge right at midnight, a few seconds before who am i reset. So, it credited you today's challenge with yesterday's win. It also explains the reason you didnt see credit for the nemesis -- this executes a few minutes later.

So, I've changed the scheduling of this stuff around. Daily challenges reset now and score after all daily games have reset.

Daily challenges will be unavailable from midnight to 12:08.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:53 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
"Today you will be playing I'm the Expert! against another player. Whoever holds the highest score today in a single Who's the Expert hourly game at midnight will win this challenge. Only your first 4 plays of this game today will be considered for this challenge, so pick your attempts wisely! Your opponent for the day is player xxxxxxxxx"

Terry, I went to my swap-a-challenge button and noticed that this challenge can be swapped out for a new one. Since this challenge, like Nemesis/Twin relies on competition/collaboration with another player, might I suggest that this also be added to the list of challenges that cannot be swapped out?


It was actually working right (it wouldn't have let you do it), but shouldn't display it as an option. Fixed.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:57 AM

Originally Posted By: HazelEyes19
I'm feeling a bit confused:
My challenge was to score at least 50% in yesterday's braintwist. I got 0% but I still got the credit for it?

I'm sorry I didn't report this yesterday - it was quite late at night that I realised this had happened and I didn't have a registered log-on for these forums, so I had to wait until this morning when I had been approved to post this.



Fixed. Thanks for the report.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 09:10 AM

This isn't really a question (more of a boast really), but I wonder what is the least effort anyone has put in to get two challenges at once?

Last Saturday, I only had time to log onto FT for about 20 minutes before going out for the day. I looked at the Challenges, and saw that my "medium" one was to get in the top 50% of a "Who's the Expert" round that day, and my "difficult" one was to get a higher score in "Who's the Expert" than a selected opponent - each of us had four attempts.

It so happened that when I logged on, the "Who's the Expert" category was one that suited me. So I played it quickly, got a good score, then logged off for the rest of the day. And luckily, that single play was enough to win both challenges!

I wish it was always that easy...
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 09:12 AM

Originally Posted By: golfmom08
This is my easy challenge for the day:



Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "So".


I played a quiz called "Somewhere in Time" and it didn't count it. Any idea why?


Challenge modified to accept quiz names starting with quotes.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 09:55 AM

Originally Posted By: stedman
This isn't really a question (more of a boast really), but I wonder what is the least effort anyone has put in to get two challenges at once?


Mine wasn't as easy as yours but yesterday my medium challenge was to do six quizzes with titles that included three x letter 'I' and my difficult challenge was do 19 quizzes from a list of 27. I have to admit that I didn't spot the bonus until after I'd done the first quiz in the difficult list - and saw it also appear in the medium 'correct' column. Yes, five of the quizzes from the difficult list had titles with three x letter 'I'. O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
So, I've changed the scheduling of this stuff around. Daily challenges reset now and score after all daily games have reset.

Daily challenges will be unavailable from midnight to 12:08.


Does this mean I'm still out of luck for my difficult challenge last week? Mind Melt ended and my earned badge that would have completed it was awarded after midnight, and yet still didn't get credit for the challenge. But now that it checks at 12:08 that should have counted...?

Edit: Apparently it doesn't. Oh well, it was only 3 credits, anyway.
Posted by: malik24

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:11 AM

Originally Posted By: stedman
This isn't really a question (more of a boast really), but I wonder what is the least effort anyone has put in to get two challenges at once?


I had 'get 10/10 in PoC in 18 seconds or less' as a difficult, and 'beat your previous score of 985 in PoC' for medium one day. And (I think) play one quiz for easy. Did both the PoC ones in one play, and obviously playing one quiz is pretty easy so that was a relaxing day.

Also today I had 'do 6 tough/difficult quizzes in a row, 8+ correct' and 'get 80 music questions right' for medium - I meshed the two for convenience.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:12 AM

Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
It does it automatically when you click - several people seem to have been caught by that. So the trick is... stop clicking! wink


Is this something that can be modified so there is an intermediate page to prevent this happening in future - particularly if more people have done it?

I probably did it after attempting to click something on a drop down medium that disappeared on me and it clicks whatever is under that spot - I know I've done that before and ended up in some strange pages.

It definitely wasn't intentional and the annoying thing is if I'd known I could have played the challenge quite easily and got it.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:17 AM

Regular FT policies apply to these challenges. For fairness (of everyone else who had a similar problem and did not get detected), my sanity, and practicality sake, we do not "compensate" for technical problems in any FT games.

Apologies to anyone caught up in bugs that go against them -- we're getting much closer to having it perfect. It was a monumentally complicated task (100 challenges, scoring checks, across 50+ different parts of the site), and so problems were guaranteed to pop up.

"But now that it checks at 12:08 that should have counted"

And no, it would not. The badge award counts badges AWARDED during the day of the challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Midget40

Is this something that can be modified so there is an intermediate page

Yes.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: malik24
I had 'get 10/10 in PoC in 18 seconds or less' as a difficult, and 'beat your previous score of 985 in PoC' for medium one day. And (I think) play one quiz for easy. Did both the PoC ones in one play, and obviously playing one quiz is pretty easy so that was a relaxing day.


Besides the fact that you completed both of them with one game, that score is incredible! 10/10 is less than 15 seconds! I couldn't score that fast in a million years. Even random clicking only gets me to 16 seconds max.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
"But now that it checks at 12:08 that should have counted"

And no, it would not. The badge award counts badges AWARDED during the day of the challenge.


Okay. Good to know.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:26 AM

Intermediate step in purchase added.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:40 AM

Thankyou
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:43 AM

Thanks, Terry.

& I'm taking it that I get to keep my lucky win. smilee Double thanks!
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: golfmom08
This is my easy challenge for the day:



Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "So".


I played a quiz called "Somewhere in Time" and it didn't count it. Any idea why?


Challenge modified to accept quiz names starting with quotes.




Thank you, Terry! It says Complete now! You all are fantastic in taking care of all these little details that are cropping up.
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 10:59 AM

I've finally been defeated! My Difficult challenge today is to finish in the Top 4 of my Triathlon division, I am nowhere close!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: collybird
I've finally been defeated! My Difficult challenge today is to finish in the Top 4 of my Triathlon division, I am nowhere close!


I had that one two days ago I think. I'm never anywhere close...it doesn't help that I suck at the Mixed trivia. I didn't even bother with that one and just let it expire. Even when I was playing those games all the time in the summer, I still never made it up that high.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 01:55 PM

I've gotten "Ask Fun Trivia" for the third time in a week. No complaining about that but there may be an issue with completing the challenge for some players. I first write my Q in the search box and hit search. The next screen has results based on the key words in the Q. I check the list of possible 'already been askeds' that meet the search criteria. Not finding a match, I want to get my question posted. Right below where it says: "Can't find the answer" (or thereabouts) there is a link that says "Ask our Fun Trivia Community" One would expect that this would get the question posted but it doean't, It just performs another search routine, same as before. There are no directions telling to avoid that link and to use the one in the lower right corner along the title bar that says "Post a Question" which takes you to a screen where you have to re-enter the question in a text box. Two things:
1) Why isn't the search box disabled on the search results screen leaving only the Post a Question link (and add verbage pointing it out)?
2) Why isn't the question copied over to the text box in the same words it was posed with. The current system allows the wording to be changed between the search and the actual posting of a Q and that second manner of asking the question may already have been asked.

EDIT PS: Please don't use the s**k word on the threads.
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: collybird
I've finally been defeated! My Difficult challenge today is to finish in the Top 4 of my Triathlon division, I am nowhere close!


I had that one two days ago I think. I'm never anywhere close...it doesn't help that I suck at the Mixed trivia. I didn't even bother with that one and just let it expire. Even when I was playing those games all the time in the summer, I still never made it up that high.


I'm reluctantly calling it a day now and I've never even come close frown I think at best I was in the Top 25 at one point. I'm in awe at others' scores.

My hardest challenge yet.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: bushidox
or at the least make beating a personal best a difficult category, as that seems more in line with the challenge level.


You got unlucky! That challenge just takes a random recent score of yours (minus any that the system deems to be unfairly low).

Couldn't you add a "minus any that the system deems to be unfairly high" to this to make it a little easier?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: bushidox
or at the least make beating a personal best a difficult category, as that seems more in line with the challenge level.


You got unlucky! That challenge just takes a random recent score of yours (minus any that the system deems to be unfairly low).

Couldn't you add a "minus any that the system deems to be unfairly high" to this to make it a little easier?


The problem with any it deems "too high" is that a LOT of people only get very high scores. Also, I think, if the higher scores were removed, it wouldn't be a challenge to complete it anymore (it would be an activity), especially not at the Medium/High difficulty levels where the challenges currently exist.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 03 2012 08:32 PM


Did I get away with something? This challenge has been discussed before, but it doesn't look like it's been fixed as desired.

The challenge is: "Play 2 new player-created quizzes that are added to FunTrivia today, scoring at least 50% in each."

Well, it counted a bot-created quiz, Animal Mix, as valid! So I got credit for completing the challenge even though I had only played one new player-created quiz.

(This is a challenge I purchased today hoping for an Epic. Darn.) smirk

In case it's relevant, I had already played the Animal quiz to fulfill a challenge to play a new mixed (bot-created) quiz, and it counted it properly for that one.
Posted by: playmate1111

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:18 AM

My difficult challenge today is to win the Buzy Bee. I already have this badge so if I play the Buzy Bee quiz do I get the credits?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: playmate1111
My difficult challenge today is to win the Buzy Bee. I already have this badge so if I play the Buzy Bee quiz do I get the credits?


Yup-- the goal is to find the bee again.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:46 AM

I just thought I'd mention an issue I've got with one small aspect of some Challenges, and see if anyone else has a similar problem.

Is there any reason (other than to provide variety) why some of the challenges specify which "mode" you should play in? It's just that my PC doesn't allow me to play in "Quiz Game" or "Flash" modes (apparently it's a security setup issue, and no, I can't change it).

Before the Challenges came along, this hasn't been a problem (I've just played happily in HTML) but a couple of times now I've been unable to complete a challenge because it specifies doing a quiz in "Game" mode. Today, it's my "difficult" challenge that does this, and it's starting to get frustrating!

Is there any possibility of this "mode" distinction being removed? I don't quite see the point of it, since the quizzes are the same whichever way you play. Or is it something to do with the way the "Quiz Game" mode scores things?

I guess if it's just me, then I'll grit my teeth and put up with it, but I just wondered if anyone else is in the same position.
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 02:41 AM

The challenges are terrific and gives us something extra to aim for, so thanks for that Terry!

However, after discussion with other members of my team, some of us were wondering. Why do we keep getting the same ones? Alright, we don't get them the next day, but we get them the day after. I think all up, off the top of my head, I've had about 9 - 12 different challenges since it started. So, based on the assumption it's been going for about a week and a half and based on the fact there are 3 different levels plus epics, I should have gotten about 90+ different challenges, perhaps .... maybe?

Maths was never my strong point smile

What do we have to do to get an epic challenge? The only challenges I've bought using credits have been the regular levels.

But, whinge time over, thanks again for creating this smile
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 02:45 AM

Just went back to my team pages after writing the previous message, and one of my members has posted "THIRD NEMESIS IN ONE WEEK! This is too stressful". Just thought I would let you know smile
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 02:46 AM

Originally Posted By: bubbatom1


What do we have to do to get an epic challenge? The only challenges I've bought using credits have been the regular levels.





It is stated somewhere that you can only purchase an Epic challenge. It's also stated somewhere that you don't know what you will get when you purchase a new challenge. So basically it's random as to whether you buy a 'normal' challenge or an Epic one. People have won some of the Epics so the assumption is that they can be bought. You might just have to buy a few more before one shows up for you.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 02:59 AM

My easy challenge was to score perfectly on an average rated quiz. I have not played any quizzes today as yet but challenge showing complete.

Only thing I have played and got a 10/10 was one of the Newest Mixed Quizzes, which I did not think should count for this challenge as challenge said it must be a user quiz.

Hope this makes sense
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 03:43 AM

Epics are rarer than other difficulties when you buy new challenges. This is intentional - we do want it to be unpredictable and special to get one.
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 03:46 AM

That's fair enough Wes, but why are we still getting the same challenges? I know it's not just team members and myself this happening to.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 04:00 AM

Random is random - you could roll two dice and get double six ten times in a row, although it is very unlikely. To guarantee an even spread, it would be necessary to 'unrandimize' it.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 04:00 AM

Bubba, there are about 30 different challenges per difficulty. So for any one difficulty, your probability to get two at the shortest possible distance from each other (2 days apart) is 1/30 or, over all 3 difficulties, 1/10.

For the chance to see a repeat challenge within 4 days, you have 3 times that chance (days 1 and 3, 1 and 4, or 2 and 4), almost 30%. It's even higher when you consider buys.

It's a side effect of randomness - one in three players will see a challenge twice when playing the game 4 days in a row.

The only way out of this will be more different challenges, something that will ultimately happen over time the more possible activities get added to FT.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 04:52 AM

90+? I think more like 40+. Maths was never my strong point either. I've had about 40 and no repeats yet, I think. (At least, if I had them they weren't memorably so.)
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 05:04 AM

Originally Posted By: stedman
I just thought I'd mention an issue I've got with one small aspect of some Challenges, and see if anyone else has a similar problem.

Is there any reason (other than to provide variety) why some of the challenges specify which "mode" you should play in? It's just that my PC doesn't allow me to play in "Quiz Game" or "Flash" modes (apparently it's a security setup issue, and no, I can't change it).

Before the Challenges came along, this hasn't been a problem (I've just played happily in HTML) but a couple of times now I've been unable to complete a challenge because it specifies doing a quiz in "Game" mode. Today, it's my "difficult" challenge that does this, and it's starting to get frustrating!

Is there any possibility of this "mode" distinction being removed? I don't quite see the point of it, since the quizzes are the same whichever way you play. Or is it something to do with the way the "Quiz Game" mode scores things?

I guess if it's just me, then I'll grit my teeth and put up with it, but I just wondered if anyone else is in the same position.




stedman, You are not alone, It's not just you! I play 99.999% of Fun Trivia on my iPad. There is no flash player available (as far as I know). A regular computer is not available to me at this time. I'll just not complete those challenges if I have to.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 05:33 AM

The reason for using the Flash game mode is variety - it's a very different way to challenge yourself on a quiz with a time limit or without one. One is a contest emphasizing speed and instant knowledge (but unlike the hourlies, relies far less on memorization since the question base is much much larger), the other emphasizes endurance and thinking / research.

I think the only way out of this would be to have a profile setting "can't use Flash" whereupon the site would stop offering you any Flash content (no game mode, int'l challenges, Instaquiz or other Flash play). I have no idea however how practical this might be in coding.
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 09:44 AM

I'm just weighing in to say that I don't believe I've received any challenges twice. I've looked at my three every day, purchased about three and swapped once. Don't recall any duplicates.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 11:01 AM

Re: Flash.

If you don't want to get any challenges that involve flash, load your challenge page for the first time of the day using your iPad or phone. The challenge generator will notice you're on a phone/ipad and make sure not to select flash-type challenges for the day for you.

This should probably be added to the FAQ too!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry

This should probably be added to the FAQ too!


Will do!
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 11:45 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
The problem with any it deems "too high" is that a LOT of people only get very high scores. Also, I think, if the higher scores were removed, it wouldn't be a challenge to complete it anymore (it would be an activity), especially not at the Medium/High difficulty levels where the challenges currently exist.

The magic word is percentile. Make it so that you have to beat a score that randomly falls between (say) your 60th and 90th percentile.
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 11:46 AM

I've actually received one difficult challenge three times so far. It's a challenge that I haven't had much of a problem with (and I enjoy), so I'm not complaining, but I am looking forward to some of the ones I haven't had yet.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
The problem with any it deems "too high" is that a LOT of people only get very high scores. Also, I think, if the higher scores were removed, it wouldn't be a challenge to complete it anymore (it would be an activity), especially not at the Medium/High difficulty levels where the challenges currently exist.

The magic word is percentile. Make it so that you have to beat a score that randomly falls between (say) your 60th and 90th percentile.


I'm pretty sure it's already set up that way, with percentiles. Don't know the ranges though.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 12:17 PM

This makes for some quite interesting quiz quests.

Some challenges make you look for specific quizzes you wouldn't normally be looking for (quizzes with titles starting with the letters SO, quizzes with titles containing three E's, quizzes with between 20 and 50 ratings...)

And of course it's a challenge to explore games you didn't play very much.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 12:57 PM

RE: the weekly gold member option of changing a challenge.

When does the week start and finish?

Is it the same as the usual FT week used for the level perks? Or is it just a week since you did the last one?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:01 PM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
The problem with any it deems "too high" is that a LOT of people only get very high scores. Also, I think, if the higher scores were removed, it wouldn't be a challenge to complete it anymore (it would be an activity), especially not at the Medium/High difficulty levels where the challenges currently exist.

The magic word is percentile. Make it so that you have to beat a score that randomly falls between (say) your 60th and 90th percentile.


Actually, I prefer a wide random range over a set difficulty range like you suggest.

This way, the very same challenge can vary significantly in difficulty. I like the idea that challenges can feel different not only by type, but also in the same challenge differing over time.
Posted by: miffy42

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:09 PM

I have just purchased, a daily challenge costing me 12 credits and i find that my quest is to score at least 20 in the Daily Game. Seeing as i have already played this game and scored 19 i find this a bit unfair that i have totally wasted my credits.

By the way, it says i have to get AT LEAST 20. I'd like to know from anyone who has scored more than 20 smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:10 PM

Midget, each "week" begins on Monday at Midnight (FT Time), the same "week" that the level perks use. smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:10 PM

Miffy, it's not unfair at all that you have already played the game. It's just unlucky that you already played and only had 19. :P
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Midget, each "week" begins on Monday at Midnight (FT Time), the same "week" that the level perks use. smile



Thank you.

I wont play any games until I've looked at my challenges for the day in case I need to try extra hard LOL - Don't think I'd purchase any after I did any of the dailys either
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:24 PM

That's why in the FAQ it says something along the lines of don't play daily games until you know what your challenges are.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: miffy42
By the way, it says i have to get AT LEAST 20. I'd like to know from anyone who has scored more than 20 smile


The reason it says "at least" 20 is because the challenge text remains the same, and it is only the number that changes. It can be as low as "at least 13" which I got for an Easy challenge in testing one day. It's a whole lot easier to keep the same text and change the number than create a new challenge with new words that is only for that one number, and also remove that number from the current challenge.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: miffy42
By the way, it says i have to get AT LEAST 20. I'd like to know from anyone who has scored more than 20 smile

I remember the sense of bemusement I felt when asked to get at least 30 correct in Mind Melt. Of course it makes sense for most of the possible numbers, just looks a bit strange when the maximum score gets inserted. crazy
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 04:30 PM

Terry, when you get a moment, don't forget to check your inbox. Need to know if something is possible for 'a particular project'. smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
That's why in the FAQ it says something along the lines of don't play daily games until you know what your challenges are.


I can understand that it must feel a little unsatisfying/unfulfilling failing a challenge the instant you gain it, but in reality, you had an equal opportunity to score 20 this morning as you do this afternoon, so it's certainly not "unfair" in any way that I can see.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Re: Flash.

If you don't want to get any challenges that involve flash, load your challenge page for the first time of the day using your iPad or phone. The challenge generator will notice you're on a phone/ipad and make sure not to select flash-type challenges for the day for you.

This should probably be added to the FAQ too!





Thank you!
Posted by: george48

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 07:11 PM

Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 17 different categories (Animals, Brain Teasers, Geography, etc). You may replay quizzes not taken in the past 30 days.

This challenge is a bit confusing, does it mean i have to play quizzes that are ten questions long and score perfectly, or do i need to play ones that are 15 questions or longer and score at least 10 right of those?
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 07:24 PM

Just wanted to reiterate a discrepancy I found the other day, since there was no response.

The challenge is: "Play 2 new player-created quizzes that are added to FunTrivia today, scoring at least 50% in each."

Well, it counted a bot-created quiz, Animal Mix, as valid! So I got credit for completing the challenge even though I had only played one new player-created quiz. I assume you genuinely only wanted player-created quizzes to count.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: george48
Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 17 different categories (Animals, Brain Teasers, Geography, etc). You may replay quizzes not taken in the past 30 days.

This challenge is a bit confusing, does it mean i have to play quizzes that are ten questions long and score perfectly, or do i need to play ones that are 15 questions or longer and score at least 10 right of those?


Either, as long as you get 10 questions correct in any one quiz.
Posted by: AlexxSchneider

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 09:21 PM

Miffy, unless you for some reason don't try as hard when a game isn't related to the Daily Challenges, it makes no odds whether you played before or after you received the challenge - a 20 would have won you the challenge either way.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 04 2012 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: george48
Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score 10 or higher in a quiz in 17 different categories (Animals, Brain Teasers, Geography, etc). You may replay quizzes not taken in the past 30 days.

This challenge is a bit confusing, does it mean i have to play quizzes that are ten questions long and score perfectly, or do i need to play ones that are 15 questions or longer and score at least 10 right of those?


Either one would work.
Posted by: reedy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:11 AM

Score at least 6 answers correct in one of the following Editor's Choice quizzes.

General Science Part II, by wimm (only has 5 questions)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:35 AM

Originally Posted By: AdamM7
Apparently, there are challenges on the global challenge. What happens during the weeks where one GC has just finished and the other hasn't started yet?


These challenges won't be issued.
Posted by: playmate1111

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 06:31 AM

One of my challenges for today "Point scramble! Use Quiz Game mode to score 2823 points playing quizzes in each of the following categories: Sports, Television, Literature."

I have already played several sports quizzes in sports but still show 0/2823. Help please!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 07:06 AM

Can you tell me the title and author of one of the quizzes you played so I can check?
Posted by: dsimpy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 08:55 AM

Here's a crazy glitch! cry

My difficult challenge today is to play 6 tough or difficult quizzes in a row, scoring 8 or more correct in each.

I've just played Robert 907's recent quiz (it's a good one! smilee) - 'They Died in September 2012 (North American)'.

It was rated Tough when I started doing the quiz. I got 10/10 which apparently downrated it to Average (maybe even getting 8/10 would have done the same?).

I didn't get the credit for it. The system says: 'They Died in September 2012 (North American): Not the required difficulty'

All I can say is 'Grawlix'! mad
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 09:01 AM

Playmate, are you clicking "Quiz Game" when you play the quiz? Playing it in regular mode will not score. You must play the quiz game version for it to count. That is the one that makes each question start with 100 points, then gradually goes down as you take longer to answer. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 09:35 AM

Salami, I was wondering the same thing, that's why I wanted to look at a played score (they look different in the quiz history)
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 09:40 AM

Aah, that's true, they do look different, don't they. :P
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 11:17 AM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Just wanted to reiterate a discrepancy I found the other day, since there was no response.

The challenge is: "Play 2 new player-created quizzes that are added to FunTrivia today, scoring at least 50% in each."

Well, it counted a bot-created quiz, Animal Mix, as valid! So I got credit for completing the challenge even though I had only played one new player-created quiz. I assume you genuinely only wanted player-created quizzes to count.


Text clarified.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: reedy
Score at least 6 answers correct in one of the following Editor's Choice quizzes.

General Science Part II, by wimm (only has 5 questions)

Thanks, fixed for the future.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 11:22 AM

Originally Posted By: dsimpy
Here's a crazy glitch! cry

My difficult challenge today is to play 6 tough or difficult quizzes in a row, scoring 8 or more correct in each.

I've just played Robert 907's recent quiz (it's a good one! smilee) - 'They Died in September 2012 (North American)'.

It was rated Tough when I started doing the quiz. I got 10/10 which apparently downrated it to Average (maybe even getting 8/10 would have done the same?).

I didn't get the credit for it. The system says: 'They Died in September 2012 (North American): Not the required difficulty'

All I can say is 'Grawlix'! mad

Wow, talk about unintended consequences smile

Ok, I've changed it to give difficulty ratings a bit of a wiggle room. So, if the difficulty rating is a LITTLE easier than what you're asked to do, it will still give you credit. That should fix that issue!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 11:25 AM

Looks like a lot of people have questions about "Quiz Game" mode. I think I'll add a note to any challenge that mentions Quiz Game mode.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 11:38 AM

My medium challenge for today is to score 7 or more in quizzes in six different categories. I've played Music, Humanities, People, Literature, General and For Children, but the system hasn't counted the Children one. There doesn't seem to be any restriction in the challenge wording on which categories I can play, so this does seem to be a glitch.

I can go and play another category to (I hope) reach the target, but won't do so for a while in case you need to check anything Terry.

Edit to add: Yes, I did score enough and I hadn't played the quiz before so it wasn't the '30 day' rule either.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:06 PM

Ok will look at it. Please dont play another Children quiz.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:08 PM

What quiz did you think you play in for children rossian? I don't see any credit.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:12 PM

Literature : Sequels to Classic Children's Books (10/10)

That is in literature.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:14 PM

I played this one: http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Literature/Sequels-to-Classic-Childrens-Books-331245.html

I'd never played it before, it now shows that I have played it and my score is the most recent one listed (at 11.27 a.m. today); but I haven't received the credit for the challenge.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:16 PM

That would explain it, Terry. I accessed it via the For Children link without noticing that it moved me to a different category. Thanks for spotting that.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:31 PM

Would it be wrong, self-serving and pushy to ask editors to post a few new quizzes, lol? I have "Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online" as a challenge, and there have been no new quizzes for more than 12 hours. As a note, no hurry for the Video Games editor! Thanks!
Posted by: jules44

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:34 PM

“Rank in the top 25% of players in one of your Global Challenge games today” was one of my challenges yesterday.

Unfortunately there were just 2 people in my division which meant that the only games which could be used to achieve this were the two Impossible games.

I think that the only people which could be affected by this are the top 3 in the GC on the odd few days they are in a division on their own, so it is hardly a big problem.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 12:51 PM

Jules, you're an amazing player... Being in the top 25% is easy; you just have to beat bzspak in a round. wink

So, even with two people, it should still be earnable, shouldn't it? Or does it only count as top 50% at that point?
Posted by: CliftonClowers

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 01:02 PM

Amen!
Posted by: jules44

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 01:12 PM

No that didn't work - finishing 1st out of 2 was not enough, nor was being the only one to play a set! I know this because after the first round my best result showing was for Impossible at 33%. (Fortunately I did get there with the second Impossible set though!)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: jules44
No that didn't work - finishing 1st out of 2 was not enough, nor was being the only one to play a set! I know this because after the first round my best result showing was for Impossible at 33%. (Fortunately I did get there with the second Impossible set though!)


Fixed. It will always give a win when ranking #1, regardless of # of players.
Posted by: jules44

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 01:45 PM

Thanks.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 01:57 PM

I switched out a challenge and got a nemesis one in its place. I'm not complaining, but is it supposed to work like that? Will my opponent be informed of the challenge?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 02:02 PM

Yes, it is supposed to work like that.


You will get an opponent as soon as another player is issued the challenge. They will know they are your opponent when they receive the challenge. Keep an eye out to see who your opponent is throughout the rest of the day! wink
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
Would it be wrong, self-serving and pushy to ask editors to post a few new quizzes, lol? I have "Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online" as a challenge, and there have been no new quizzes for more than 12 hours. As a note, no hurry for the Video Games editor! Thanks!


If some quizzes have submitted to the categories in which I edit that could go online instead of needing more work, I will be happy to oblige. Soon - I have a Daily Challenge to attend to first.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 04:52 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes

If some quizzes have submitted to the categories in which I edit that could go online instead of needing more work, I will be happy to oblige. Soon - I have a Daily Challenge to attend to first.


That is truly nice of you, but the kind editors from Brain Teasers came through with a delightful quiz!
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: gracious1
Just wanted to reiterate a discrepancy I found the other day, since there was no response.

The challenge is: "Play 2 new player-created quizzes that are added to FunTrivia today, scoring at least 50% in each."

Well, it counted a bot-created quiz, Animal Mix, as valid! So I got credit for completing the challenge even though I had only played one new player-created quiz. I assume you genuinely only wanted player-created quizzes to count.


Text clarified.


So, you did want to include any quiz, not just the player-created quizzes? I though you only wanted to included player-created quizzes in this challenge. Did I misunderstand?

So you've changed the text to say "Play 2 new quizzes..." without a qualification?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 07:02 PM

Quote:
As a note, no hurry for the Video Games editor!


No rush anyways-- I've cleared the queue.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 08:37 PM

This isn't a bug, but rather a suggestion to add to an existing challenge (I meant to say something during testing, but forgot).

I bought a challenge today and was given the following Difficult challenge to play:

"Take 20 of the following quizzes, scoring at least 7 correct in each."

The description at the end of the challenge is this:

"You must complete 20 of the 26 remaining quizzes (7 correct in each) to win this challenge. For the purposes of this challenge, you will get challenge credit for playing these quizzes today, even if you have played them in the past."

Since you have to score at least 7 on a quiz to the green check anyway, I would like to suggest that in order to receive credit for the completion, that you also have to rate the quiz. You only have to score 2 correct to be eligible to rate, as I remember. You must get 7 correct to count, so you should also be eligible to rate. This way even more quizzes get rated than already are by the challenge that says something like "find a quiz with between 20 and 50 ratings online for over a month, play and rate". Good, yes?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 08:41 PM

But if you are replaying a quiz, you cannot rate it again, so would be unable to complete the challenge. The longer you're here, the more likely it is that you will have already played at least some of the quizzes on the list. I know I had already played all of the ones listed for a challenge worded like that one.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
But if you are replaying a quiz, you cannot rate it again, so would be unable to complete the challenge. The longer you're here, the more likely it is that you will have already played at least some of the quizzes on the list. I know I had already played all of the ones listed for a challenge worded like that one.


Maybe it could be set up in such a way as to only give you quizzes you've not played before?

I can see how having already played a lot of quizzes on the list previously could be a problem, especially if you're someone who rates all the time when you play.

...Is it possible to have it set up so that just selecting a rating counts, even if you don't get points because you've previously rated the quiz?

If neither of the above are feasible, then just ignore the rating thing. I wouldn't want to intentionally screw over players who've already played and rated a lot of the quizzes. I actually just played on in my list that I'd played and rated yesterday. I don't want people missing out on credits that they would be able to earn if the challenge stayed as is.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 05 2012 09:31 PM

Maybe ratings could be incorporated into different challenges altogether, like "play and rate X quizzes" for an Easy challenge (as only 2 correct would be required). Naturally, you would only then be playing quizzes you hadn't played before for such a challenge. I think the others are best left as they are.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 04:08 AM

How the hell do you score 3988 in a quiz in Quiz game mode? There aren't enough questions as according to the challenge you have to do this in each quiz. The categories are Animals 0/3988, Sports 0/3988, History 0/3988, Geography 0/3988 and Literature 0/3988. Even doing a 25 question quiz getting all the questions right in 0 time will only get you 2500. Oh just realised you have to play more than one quiz in each subject. Doh!
Posted by: Iceman61

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 10:42 AM

I traded in my difficult challenge and got the one about going up against someone in Expert. You are only allowed to use your first four scores of the day against your opponent. I had already played three times and those scores show up for me. Admittedly, they are not my best scores. Shouldn't those not be counted since it tells me to pick wisely? That is kind of like Ex Post Trivus where I am being punished for something I did before the law/game came into effect. Maybe it is a bug and maybe it is not. I thought I would point that out.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 11:07 AM

I got that one today too Iceman. I don't play Expert as a rule (because I'm horrible at it lol), so hadn't played any before the challenge. But I do agree with you that things that happened BEFORE you received your challenge shouldn't be counted in any of them (regardless of whether a person was successful or not) unless the lack of success was due to a definite bug.
Posted by: Iceman61

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 11:18 AM

Of course, Jakeroo knows that great minds think alike and not just because we are in agreement. I know it could be the other way around and I could have scored much higher. My thought is that scores on a challenge like that is the scores count after you draw no matter what. Especially since it is a difficult challenge and requires extra effort on your part to complete it.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 11:29 AM

Well, that's the one I ended up with by purchasing one after knowing I wasn't going to succeed at my easy challenge (of all things!) LOL. I don't know what Iceman's original circumstances were. Generally I check the challenge list when I first log on, before I play ANYTHING at all.

Iceman: I most assuredly don't have a great mind (but thanks anyway lol), but if it wasn't on your original list of challenges then I most heartily agree that what happened before receiving it shouldn't have counted.
Posted by: Iceman61

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 11:42 AM

It was actually one I had purchased with credits. I had already used my trade in and figured I would get something good in return.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 12:20 PM

Iceman: We're in the same "boat" then lol.

My competitor has many more expert wins than I do (I would imagine it's not all that hard for many folks to get more than the paltry 3 I have!) and managed to beat my best score easily by quite a good margin. This was not a surprise to me, since my only hope (in reality) was that he/she didn't log on today at all LOL. Oh well. I still like the challenge, even if I'm out 9 buckaroos ~.

Best wishes to all in their personal challenges.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Iceman61
I traded in my difficult challenge and got the one about going up against someone in Expert. You are only allowed to use your first four scores of the day against your opponent. I had already played three times and those scores show up for me. Admittedly, they are not my best scores. Shouldn't those not be counted since it tells me to pick wisely? That is kind of like Ex Post Trivus where I am being punished for something I did before the law/game came into effect. Maybe it is a bug and maybe it is not. I thought I would point that out.


For 95% of challenges, we do look "at the whole day" to determine scores, and for most there are very good reasons. This one, though, is both fairly easy for me to change to look at only your first 4 expert scores AFTER you get it. I think doing that would make that challenge a little more interesting.
Posted by: AlexxSchneider

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 05:57 PM

The thing to do is check your challenges FIRST. That way, you're not compromising any of the challenges. So that even if you do decide to buy a new challenge, you have a clean slate ready.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 06:24 PM

Sometimes you don't know that you want to trade a failed challenge immediately. I traded away from being a Team Hero one day only when my score fell to sixth place late in the day. That gave me a chance to complete the replacement challenge; it would have been disappointing if my purchase turned out to be completely unachievable in the remaining time, but not devastating.
Posted by: Iceman61

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 06:35 PM

Earlier today I traded finishing in the top 3 in Global Challenge in one of the categories because I had played a round already and didn't feel confident about meeting it. The replacement was scoring 10 points on a quiz in 14 different categories. That was much easier to meet. I bought my challenge about beating someone in Expert. I guess the question would be: do we actually know what exactly the challenges are or have to wait and find out? If I knew I might play differently, but that would limit my playing on the chance I might get the Expert nemesis.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Yes, it is supposed to work like that.

You will get an opponent as soon as another player is issued the challenge. They will know they are your opponent when they receive the challenge. Keep an eye out to see who your opponent is throughout the rest of the day! wink


I got my opponent's name immediately and was kind of concerned that he wouldn't have mine. I attribute me beating him 11,321 to 1,935 to the fact that he's only been registered for 4 days though.

========

I got this medium challenge today:

"Play in an hourly game of Piece of Cake and score at least 905 points."

and I'm kind of curious how it arrived at a score of 905 to beat. Above 900 means I had to get all 10 questions right, but 905 means I could've done it within 95 seconds, which is really a meaninglessly high amount in the piece of cake game. It may as well just be "get all 10 questions right in the easy game."

I imagine there are other 'point gaps' similar to that, though I wonder how - if at all - you'd address it.
Posted by: tiddybitnibbly

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: nautilator

I got my opponent's name immediately and was kind of concerned that he wouldn't have mine. I attribute me beating him 11,321 to 1,935 to the fact that he's only been registered for 4 days though.


Does that mean the assigning of opponents is completely random? Based on the three I've had so far (levels 126, 109, and 159), I assumed that the system paired players with similar levels and/or points. It would be really nice to have an opponent score 2,000 points instead of 57,000 for a change!
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: AlexxSchneider
The thing to do is check your challenges FIRST. That way, you're not compromising any of the challenges. So that even if you do decide to buy a new challenge, you have a clean slate ready.


Exactly. It just takes some strategy. And when it doesn't work out, that's the luck of the draw. Loving these challenges, even those I have no shot at getting.

Sue
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: tiddybitnibbly
Originally Posted By: nautilator

I got my opponent's name immediately and was kind of concerned that he wouldn't have mine. I attribute me beating him 11,321 to 1,935 to the fact that he's only been registered for 4 days though.


Does that mean the assigning of opponents is completely random? Based on the three I've had so far (levels 126, 109, and 159), I assumed that the system paired players with similar levels and/or points. It would be really nice to have an opponent score 2,000 points instead of 57,000 for a change!


I think it's totally random. I was assigned a Nemesis who was not a Gold Member and had already maxed out the regular quiz tracking...so while I could rack up the quiz points, my Nemesis was stuck playing hourlies and dailies...
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 06 2012 09:52 PM

If i ever got that challenge of scoring more points than an opponent it simple would not worry whether i won or lost, I'd simply play as normal as I have to dialyse 4 times a week and I am usually to knackered afterwards to bother getting into a points fight, plus the fact my joints in my hands are stiff with arthritis so i'm not going to do anything that will make that worse. I have already written off the challenge of winning an hourly game.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 07 2012 11:43 AM

Don't worry if you miss a daily challenge. There are all sorts of circumstances that might explain it: working late, domestic duties, medical conditions... - even a phone ringing might be enough to make you lose a challenge.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 07 2012 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: JanIQ
Don't worry if you miss a daily challenge. There are all sorts of circumstances that might explain it: working late, domestic duties, medical conditions... - even a phone ringing might be enough to make you lose a challenge.


Dog wanting to come in. Never underestimate the power of the Paws. May the Paws be with you!
Posted by: kevinatilusa

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 12:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Difficult Challenge
Score a Word Wizard Gold Member Game word of exactly 10 letters.


Yowzers. Thank goodness for the weekly switchout!
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
Originally Posted By: JanIQ
Don't worry if you miss a daily challenge. There are all sorts of circumstances that might explain it: working late, domestic duties, medical conditions... - even a phone ringing might be enough to make you lose a challenge.


Dog wanting to come in. Never underestimate the power of the Paws. May the Paws be with you!


Or a cat demanding your attention, by walking across your keyboard and hitting [ENTER], for no particular reason at all! Meow!
Posted by: malik24

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 01:22 AM

Or just having a random selection that does not suit you.

I've had the Crystal Ball difficult challenge 3 times now, and not completed it once. That one's definitely on my auto-swap list, though I couldn't yesterday as I'd already used the swap. I'd like to even the score once like I did with the Triathlon one, but it's my least favourite game so I'm in no rush for it to appear again.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 02:28 AM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Originally Posted By: Starlord
Originally Posted By: JanIQ
Don't worry if you miss a daily challenge. There are all sorts of circumstances that might explain it: working late, domestic duties, medical conditions... - even a phone ringing might be enough to make you lose a challenge.


Dog wanting to come in. Never underestimate the power of the Paws. May the Paws be with you!


Or a cat demanding your attention, by walking across your keyboard and hitting [ENTER], for no particular reason at all! Meow!


Cats don't do things for "no reason", they always have a plan - beware! wink
Posted by: LadyCaitriona

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 10:42 AM

I just started checking these out, and this thread is quite long so please forgive me that I haven't looked over everything before posting.

Should each challenge have a link to where you need to go? Both my Easy and Difficult challenges link to the places I need to go (the Global Challenge, and the People category), but my Medium clue says to go to Mind Melt (in bold) but doesn't have the link:

Score at least 1951 points in today's Mind Melt - using the TIMED mode.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 11:28 AM

Originally Posted By: LadyCaitriona
I just started checking these out, and this thread is quite long so please forgive me that I haven't looked over everything before posting.

Should each challenge have a link to where you need to go? Both my Easy and Difficult challenges link to the places I need to go (the Global Challenge, and the People category), but my Medium clue says to go to Mind Melt (in bold) but doesn't have the link:

Score at least 1951 points in today's Mind Melt - using the TIMED mode.


Mind Melt challenges do not have links. I don't know why they don't though. But all levels of Difficulty for Mind Melt just have the bolded words, no links. Most other things do have links though...I think it has been brought up a few times, but nothing has been done about it as of yet...
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: golfmom08
[quote=Terry]Re: Flash.

If you don't want to get any challenges that involve flash, load your challenge page for the first time of the day using your iPad or phone. The challenge generator will notice you're on a phone/ipad and make sure not to select flash-type challenges for the day for you.

This should probably be added to the FAQ too!





Has this been done? One of my challenges today was to play one of the International quizzes. I play on my iPad most if not all of the time. Today I was able to log in on my computer at work (this is not always possible).
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 01:16 PM

Originally Posted By: LadyCaitriona
I just started checking these out, and this thread is quite long so please forgive me that I haven't looked over everything before posting.

Should each challenge have a link to where you need to go? Both my Easy and Difficult challenges link to the places I need to go (the Global Challenge, and the People category), but my Medium clue says to go to Mind Melt (in bold) but doesn't have the link:

Score at least 1951 points in today's Mind Melt - using the TIMED mode.

They don't NEED to. I'll eventually get to doing them all, but links are low priority. Consider finding Mind Melt part of the challenge wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: golfmom08
Originally Posted By: golfmom08
[quote=Terry]Re: Flash.

If you don't want to get any challenges that involve flash, load your challenge page for the first time of the day using your iPad or phone. The challenge generator will notice you're on a phone/ipad and make sure not to select flash-type challenges for the day for you.

This should probably be added to the FAQ too!





Has this been done? One of my challenges today was to play one of the International quizzes. I play on my iPad most if not all of the time. Today I was able to log in on my computer at work (this is not always possible).


Looks like I missed the International quizzes as "flash". I've removed that from future consideration for ipads.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: golfmom08
Originally Posted By: golfmom08
[quote=Terry]Re: Flash.

If you don't want to get any challenges that involve flash, load your challenge page for the first time of the day using your iPad or phone. The challenge generator will notice you're on a phone/ipad and make sure not to select flash-type challenges for the day for you.

This should probably be added to the FAQ too!





Has this been done? One of my challenges today was to play one of the International quizzes. I play on my iPad most if not all of the time. Today I was able to log in on my computer at work (this is not always possible).


Looks like I missed the International quizzes as "flash". I've removed that from future consideration for ipads.



Thank you for the speedy response. I'm thoroughly enjoying these Daily Challenges and they are first thing I look at after I've poured the first cup of coffee each morning!
Posted by: bushidox

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 01:28 PM

In reference to the post by kaddarsgirl:
"I think it's totally random. I was assigned a Nemesis who was not a Gold Member and had already maxed out the regular quiz tracking...so while I could rack up the quiz points, my Nemesis was stuck playing hourlies and dailies..."

I think this brings up a very valid problem. Gold members have by definition access to far more of the site than do regular members. As I myself was until the dailies started a non-gold member I can attest to how hard it is to score over 10,000 in a day with limited access. My proposal to fix this one is simple: for the purposes of a cumulative total for the day ala Nemesis, make it so it does a check if the member is gold or not, and only pair like with like. Presumably, this would also help link like leveled players, as, at a guess, players heavily into trivia would typically subscribe to the site to have more fun after a given amount of time. Your mileage will vary and all, but pairing gold versus non-gold seems a bit skewed on average.

In reference to one of kaddarsgirl's other ideas, this also applies, as I believe that you can only rate up to the first 200 quizzes you take as a non-gold member, and therefore any non-gold member would be unable to accomplish ratings related challenges. It was a good idea, but would shut out a large chunk of the player base.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 02:28 PM

I view it as just another incentive to go gold. wink

But for the nemesis, perhaps a system that only paired gold with gold, and non-gold with non-gold, would be best.


The others, though, I think, would be best to keep as that little extra push to get someone to go gold. It's one of the best purchases EVER. smile
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
It's one of the best purchases EVER. smile


I second that. smile
Posted by: ArlingtonVA

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 03:30 PM

This may have been pointed out before, but when a challenge requires you to play a quiz in Quiz Mode, the quiz should not be HTML only. That happened to me today. No big deal, other than mildly frustrating, but it's a small flaw in a terrific new site feature.

Clyde

P.S. The quiz was "Quizzical46: Easy Word Search2"
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: ArlingtonVA
This may have been pointed out before, but when a challenge requires you to play a quiz in Quiz Mode, the quiz should not be HTML only. That happened to me today. No big deal, other than mildly frustrating, but it's a small flaw in a terrific new site feature.

Clyde

P.S. The quiz was "Quizzical46: Easy Word Search2"



That was a bug, and has been fixed for the future. Thanks for the report.
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 06:21 PM

Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not: I played a quiz which I had previously played (and presumably rated at the time). It was counted toward the challenge. If the point is to increase the ratings for these quizzes, then playing something that you have already rated shouldn't count because rating the quiz again won't increase the number of ratings. On the other hand, if the main point is to create a scavenger hunt and low number of ratings is just something to find, then it doesn't really matter.
Posted by: MarchHare007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 06:42 PM


International Hourly games will not load - links click but gives me a blue screen with the usual FT links across the top - and a small blue square that looks like it should be clickable.

http://www.funtrivia.com/quiztime/index.cfm?gamenum=1
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:05 PM

When I clicked on your link, it loaded fine. Possibly a caching issue?
Posted by: MarchHare007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:09 PM

Cache appears clear, Loones.

Any other suggestions?
Posted by: malik24

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:14 PM

Is your version of Flash Player up to date and working?
Posted by: MarchHare007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:45 PM


Just made sure Malik and yes it is.
I've refreshed, logged out and back in.
No change. frown
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Julia103
Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not: I played a quiz which I had previously played (and presumably rated at the time). It was counted toward the challenge. If the point is to increase the ratings for these quizzes, then playing something that you have already rated shouldn't count because rating the quiz again won't increase the number of ratings. On the other hand, if the main point is to create a scavenger hunt and low number of ratings is just something to find, then it doesn't really matter.


The point is to increase the number of ratings, as well as be a fun little hunt for you. If the intermediate page after the answers page said at the top that you were given 20 points, then you had not previously rated it and therefore it should have counted.

If, however, you rated it, and the intermediate page did not award you 20 points and thank you for your rating, then it is in fact a glitch and should not have been counted. Terry would need to take a look at that point.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: reeshy
Originally Posted By: salami_swami
It's one of the best purchases EVER. smile


I second that. smile


I agree, but not everyone can afford even the low annual fee that it takes to be Gold Member, and I hate to see people left out because of pecuniary difficulties.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: MarchHare007
Cache appears clear, Loones.

Any other suggestions?

Certainly sounds like a flash issue:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
Posted by: MarchHare007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 11:40 PM


Thanks for the link Terry.
Bizarrely the computer is telling me it Is upgraded but I'm still having problems.

This is my work computer. I'll play around with it and see if I can see anything else.
I'll try the Mac later, when I'm home. I'm sure it will be okay! smile
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 08 2012 11:47 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
If, however, you rated it, and the intermediate page did not award you 20 points and thank you for your rating, then it is in fact a glitch and should not have been counted. Terry would need to take a look at that point.


Well, no, not by the terms of the challenge. It requires you to take the quiz and rate it -- it doesn't specify that the quiz be one you haven't previously taken or rated. I presume that the coding for this challenge just looks at the number of ratings and whether a rating is submitted, so awarding credit in this situation doesn't seem to be an error. If the intent is for the qualifying quizzes to only include quizzes the player hasn't played before, the challenge should so specify.

Incidentally, this challenge has been one of my favorites. I was glad to see that the bottom limit on ratings was removed when I got it the second time (the first time I got it the qualifying quizzes were ones who had from "20 to 50 ratings" rather than just "under 50 ratings").
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 03:42 AM

We don't want to exclude players who play and rate most or all quizzes as they come out (and there are several of those) from enjoying the challenges. This requires us to accept a play-and-rate even if the player has rated it before, otherwise they might not have any options!
Posted by: moonraker2

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 08:56 AM

I have just tried to buy another challenge, but am being advised "You cannot buy any more challenges right now as you have more than 1 incomplete challenge".

One of my challenges is .... "You must end today as one of your team's heroes in the Team Hero game". I've completed the challenge and feel confident of being successful, but of course the result cannot be determined before the close of the FT day.

My query is ... if I'm ever allocated more than one similar 'daily' challenge on any one day it will be impossible to buy additional challenges on that day, although I'm guessing this scenario may have already been dealt with in the schedule?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 08:58 AM

If that happens, tough luck. That might make it especially tricky when going for the "10 in one day" minibadge. wink

Luck of the draw. If you happen to get 2 "end of the day" challenges, you cannot buy any more. Nothing we can do about it; just an unfortunate happenstance. smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: abechstein
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
If, however, you rated it, and the intermediate page did not award you 20 points and thank you for your rating, then it is in fact a glitch and should not have been counted. Terry would need to take a look at that point.


Well, no, not by the terms of the challenge. It requires you to take the quiz and rate it -- it doesn't specify that the quiz be one you haven't previously taken or rated. I presume that the coding for this challenge just looks at the number of ratings and whether a rating is submitted, so awarding credit in this situation doesn't seem to be an error. If the intent is for the qualifying quizzes to only include quizzes the player hasn't played before, the challenge should so specify.

Incidentally, this challenge has been one of my favorites. I was glad to see that the bottom limit on ratings was removed when I got it the second time (the first time I got it the qualifying quizzes were ones who had from "20 to 50 ratings" rather than just "under 50 ratings").


It is a technical issue that will remain the way it is by design. In short, the system has no idea WHEN you rated a quiz. It just knows that (a) you played quiz X today and (b) it has been rated by you some time in the past. As pointed out, this will sometimes give credit for quizzes rated a long time ago. In the spirit of the challenge I encourage you to try to play and rate quizzes you have never played before for that challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 10:37 AM

Originally Posted By: moonraker2
I have just tried to buy another challenge, but am being advised "You cannot buy any more challenges right now as you have more than 1 incomplete challenge".

One of my challenges is .... "You must end today as one of your team's heroes in the Team Hero game". I've completed the challenge and feel confident of being successful, but of course the result cannot be determined before the close of the FT day.

My query is ... if I'm ever allocated more than one similar 'daily' challenge on any one day it will be impossible to buy additional challenges on that day, although I'm guessing this scenario may have already been dealt with in the schedule?


Right now it is possible to receive 2 challenges that complete at midnight. So yes, you may find yourself in a situation that you complete 9 challenges in a day and through no fault of your own are unable to purchase a tenth.

I suppose I could change the "purcahse" process to ignore challenges that complete at midnight when determining is incomplete or not if we needed to.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 11:12 AM

No, don't do that, I like the little bit of risk involved in purchasing the challenge... Will it end at midnight? Will I be able to complete it now? smile
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 11:15 AM

I'm working on my difficult challenge:

Quote:
Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score at least 9 questions correct in any quiz in 17 different categories (Animals, Brain Teasers, Geography, etc). You may replay quizzes not taken in the past 30 days.


I mistakenly thought it was 10 correct when I was completing History, so ended up doing two separate quizzes that qualified, so now I have two ticks for History instead of just one, so it's counting it as two categories. Just to let you know. smile
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 12:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: Iceman61
I traded in my difficult challenge and got the one about going up against someone in Expert. You are only allowed to use your first four scores of the day against your opponent. I had already played three times and those scores show up for me. Admittedly, they are not my best scores. Shouldn't those not be counted since it tells me to pick wisely? That is kind of like Ex Post Trivus where I am being punished for something I did before the law/game came into effect. Maybe it is a bug and maybe it is not. I thought I would point that out.


For 95% of challenges, we do look "at the whole day" to determine scores, and for most there are very good reasons. This one, though, is both fairly easy for me to change to look at only your first 4 expert scores AFTER you get it. I think doing that would make that challenge a little more interesting.


I just purchased this challenge, and it is still counting games from before the buy. I wasn't sure if you had decided to actually make the change, but, if you did, it isn't working.
Posted by: bushidox

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 01:31 PM

I managed to get the same difficult challenge as Reeshy, and it worked fine for me. I was able to test it, as I had to get 66 questions right in one of the categories for the Medium, and a perfect score on an Average or higher rated quiz for the Easy. This was a very nice set, and a great way to help a new gold member (me) explore the quiz categories of the site.

One minor suggestion, for a difficult challenge, being able to get 9 questions right on even Very Easy rated quizzes seems exceptionally simple. Compared to a lot of other difficult challenges this seems trivial in comparison. My suggestion is to keep it at 9 or more questions right in 12 categories, BUT, to make the quizzes need to be Average or higher in rating. Very Easy and Easy seem not in line with a difficult challenge, in my humble opinion.

I doubt I will have as many "themed" days as I did today, but, as I said, it was a great tour of the site. Neat that it worked out that way today.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 01:44 PM

I would just view it as one of the cases in which a Difficult task is not that difficult--just like there are some tasks that to some people may be anything but easy.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: Iceman61
I traded in my difficult challenge and got the one about going up against someone in Expert. You are only allowed to use your first four scores of the day against your opponent. I had already played three times and those scores show up for me. Admittedly, they are not my best scores. Shouldn't those not be counted since it tells me to pick wisely? That is kind of like Ex Post Trivus where I am being punished for something I did before the law/game came into effect. Maybe it is a bug and maybe it is not. I thought I would point that out.


For 95% of challenges, we do look "at the whole day" to determine scores, and for most there are very good reasons. This one, though, is both fairly easy for me to change to look at only your first 4 expert scores AFTER you get it. I think doing that would make that challenge a little more interesting.


I just purchased this challenge, and it is still counting games from before the buy. I wasn't sure if you had decided to actually make the change, but, if you did, it isn't working.


No changes made yet -- I'll add them in starting tomorrow.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 07:02 PM

How well can you string together successes? Play any six tough or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.

The quiz listed at the bottom was played first. (How Far Would You Go? - Part 2:) The next six were all rated as "Tough", and I scored at least an 8 or better on the other six.

Thanks.

Closest attempt today: 3 in a row.

Quizzes you have played today, in order:

"M*A*S*H" Season 6: "Fallen Idol":

3.18 "Stirred":

3.15 "Hartsfield's Landing":

3.6 "War Crimes":

3.4 "Ways and Means":

Let's Eat at 'the West Wing': Season 3:

How Far Would You Go? - Part 2: Not the required difficulty


Incomplete
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 07:39 PM

Bug fixed.
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 09 2012 09:25 PM

Thanks for the fix.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 08:38 AM

My challenge today - Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge. Note that mixed generated quizzes do not count -- just regular player created quizzes.

So far today there has been one new quiz posted on Funtrivia and that was whilst I was at dialysis.
Posted by: fredsixties

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 08:55 AM

It is impossible to get inot the "Ask a Question" section today. That is my easy challenge for today..not so easy..
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 09:11 AM

Originally Posted By: fredsixties
It is impossible to get inot the "Ask a Question" section today. That is my easy challenge for today..not so easy..


What do you mean? Do you mean for asking a question, or for answering a question?

If it's the latter, there are two new unanswered questions you could try!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 09:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
My challenge today - Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge. Note that mixed generated quizzes do not count -- just regular player created quizzes.

So far today there has been one new quiz posted on Funtrivia and that was whilst I was at dialysis.


I hope you made good use of the ones I just released smile
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 11:26 AM

Originally Posted By: bushidox
I managed to get the same difficult challenge as Reeshy, and it worked fine for me.


It did work for me, but the bug is that it was registering the same category multiple times, so theoretically it seems I could have done all 17 quizzes in the same category and received credit.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 12:23 PM

My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit?
Posted by: navaho56

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 12:26 PM

Twice this week I have bought challenges (9credits) only to be given the exact same challenges I have failed (due to comp crash and failing to reach desired score), so due to having played the game previously I received the message " You have already played this game " GRRRRRRRRR
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 12:31 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit?

Why not just consider it one of the "easy" difficult challenges? Also, how is this any different than (for example) playing games in the same division as champions or aganist players of lower levels?
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit?

Why not just consider it one of the "easy" difficult challenges? Also, how is this any different than (for example) playing games in the same division as champions or aganist players of lower levels?


I agree with Buddy on this one. I got a Nemesis once on a day when I really had no time at all to play the required amount to amass points. Luck of the draw. I was probably looked at as the "favorite" that day in terms of being Gold and my level, but my Nemesis won. You never know what someone's situation might be.

Sue

edited to eliminate a rather unfortunate and unintentionally self-aggrandizing typo
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:31 PM

I also think that the luck of the draw is just part of the challenge. The fun of the unknown! smile

But!

Maybe I will feel differently after several draws pair me against unbeatable fiendish champion scorers, lol!. Maybe it's something that can be reviewed after a few weeks when people have had multiple shots at it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:36 PM

I'm not really concerned about myself as far as the challenge goes. I can rack up enough points if I need to, to beat someone higher up. I was just thinking of how the 2 day old that got paired up with me might feel, today, about the challenge.
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:45 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
I was just thinking of how the 2 day old that got paired up with me might feel, today, about the challenge.


They might take it as a challenge...

Some of my highest daily scoring totals were during my first couple of weeks on the site, when I was exploring. Now, I average under half of what I scored when I first got on the site (though that average is rising a bit with all these challenges).
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
My Nemesis today is only 2 FT days old. That doesn't quite seem fair. Can this please be set up so that like is paired with like (Gold vs Gold, Centurion vs Centurion, Newbie vs Newbie) just to level the playing field a bit?


I see this as a bit of a balancer as some of the challenges higher level players get which require a win in their division, particularly in the Champion divisions, is a much harder task than winning a set in the lower levels.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 03:00 PM

I agree with bubbles...

And age of player really does not matter. Nor does whether they are gold or not. As mentioned, a new player can get oodles of points quite easily. As can a regular member who has millions of points. I know that alan56 could easily beat me if we were ever paired up for the challenge. I see him get 15,000 points a day regularly. And that is simply with hourly games and such; he is not scored for quizzes.

I think it's all just the luck of the draw. If you're paired with a top competitor; tough cookies. That's just the way it crumbles.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 03:21 PM

[/quote] I hope you made good use of the ones I just released smile [/quote]

Sorry Wesley, dialysis caught up with me and I've zonked out for the last 6 hours, lookes like some good quizzes there though. I'll probably use the gold memeber perk and trade for another challenge.
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 04:00 PM

While I can see your point Kaddarsgirl, the day I got a Nemesis challenge was a day it was impossible for me to take the challenge on. I was on holidays and had other things to do. I did a some editing in the morning until my USB internet service slowed down to molasses in winter speed and that was about it for the day. I could have played quizzes but I had other things to do smile If I get the Nemesis next time on a day when I'm working I'll be lucky to score more than a few thousand points as I work 12 hours shifts. Throw in travel time, sleep time etc and it makes for a short FT day. All in all, I'm a good opponent to go against at least 50% of the time despite my level and points tally wink
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 06:03 PM

I've got the play a new quiz within 20 minutes of it coming on line challenge today. I've not had time to spend a lot of time on FT today until the last few hours and there hasn't been a single new quiz come up in the last three hours, and only four have gone on the last five hours. Now 1am here so giving up on this one.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 07:52 PM

I see that the Daily Adventurer badges are being handed out so presumably there have been 20 days of challenges. My scoresheet says the following:

Completions: Easy: 17, Medium: 18, Difficult: 14, Epic: 1
Challenges Complete: 50, Credits earned: 83

I don't think I've missed any easy or medium challenges, I've missed possibly two difficult and I've traded twice. Now I'm wondering why I wouldn't have more easy and medium challenges as I'm pretty sure I haven't missed a day since they came online. Is there any way of checking?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 08:10 PM

I have: Easy: 18, Medium: 18, Difficult: 14 I've missed at least one day.

With purchasing challenges, it is definitely possible to have 20 of each right now, especially if none of the bought challenges were Epics, and assuming they could all be completed.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
I have: Easy: 18, Medium: 18, Difficult: 14 I've missed at least one day.

With purchasing challenges, it is definitely possible to have 20 of each right now, especially if none of the bought challenges were Epics, and assuming they could all be completed.


I see what you mean kaddarsgirl...thanks for the clarification.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Christinap
I've got the play a new quiz within 20 minutes of it coming on line challenge today. I've not had time to spend a lot of time on FT today until the last few hours and there hasn't been a single new quiz come up in the last three hours, and only four have gone on the last five hours. Now 1am here so giving up on this one.


I had this as well, waste of time and space. I've learnt now if I have it again to get rid of it straight away which will give me a chance on another challenge or just ignore it altogether. mad

Apart from one quiz all the other quizzes posted today were within a two hour time frame so if you didn't happen to be on the computer then, you have no chance with this challenge.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 09:47 PM

Another two just went on recently.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 09:53 PM

Quote:
I've not had time to spend a lot of time on FT today until the last few hours and there hasn't been a single new quiz come up in the last three hours, and only four have gone on the last five hours.


One of my challenges today was to get a 9-letter word in Word Wizard. If I had no letters to begin, I'd need to be on (at minimum) nine hours in one day to have a remote chance of passing the challenge.

Sure, editors can't always place quizzes online at any given time (sometimes, the submissions in the queue just aren't ready), but there are always going to be challenges with which you'll need to devote more time and effort into getting. Sometimes that's just not feasible.


And then there'll be people who groan when that quiz they find on the Buzz within twenty minutes is in Video Games. Can't win em all. wink
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive

One of my challenges today was to get a 9-letter word in Word Wizard. If I had no letters to begin, I'd need to be on (at minimum) nine hours in one day to have a remote chance of passing the challenge.

Sure, editors can't always place quizzes online at any given time (sometimes, the submissions in the queue just aren't ready), but there are always going to be challenges with which you'll need to devote more time and effort into getting. Sometimes that's just not feasible.


And then there'll be people who groan when that quiz they find on the Buzz within twenty minutes is in Video Games. Can't win em all. wink


I agree to a certain extent, but with Word Wizard, the choice is still in your own hands whether to play the hours needed. With the quizzes, you have no power, as I learned after waiting more than 16 hours for a quiz to be added the other day, lol. It worked out fine, but it could be that new quizzes are not added for a full 24 hour period, right? It almost seems like that challenge almost falls more into the category of not assigning Global Challenge games when there is no GC running.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 10:13 PM

I don't think I've seen a day in a very, very, very, very long time (if at all) without *any* quizzes going online. Some days may have fewer than others, but that's a bit out of our control-- sometimes, like I said, it's a matter of the submissions in particular queues needing fixes and sometimes, perhaps an editor needed a day off.

I cant recall, but out of curiosity, is the 'Play in first 20 mins.' challenge a Hard one?

If so, Hard is Hard. I've managed to avoid any asking for the Crystal Ball thus far, but I know they're out there. I'd take my chances with the Buzz any day over the CB.

And like I said, sometimes they're not feasible for some people to be online for them; some people can't meet the Global Challenge times for the same reason. The challenges are random, and somedays we're going to feel the brunt of them over others (like me, today, with Word Wizard and top 5 in Heroes in one of my worst categories).
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 10:14 PM

The only time I can recall a day when absolutely no quizzes went online was when we used to have a Christmas sabbatical, and quiz writing was shut down for the holidays. Even then I think quizzes already in the queue could be put online if the editors were available. The only problem I see with this challenge is the pressure that some editors might feel to fast track quizzes that might not be ready. (Not that any of us would, we just might feel the pressure to do so.)

Twenty-one quizzes have gone online in the past 24 hours. Surely that doesn't equate to a GC shutdown?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 10:16 PM

Quote:
One of my challenges today was to get a 9-letter word in Word Wizard.


Lucky me-- got it with two hours to spare. wink
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 10 2012 11:39 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
I've managed to avoid any asking for the Crystal Ball thus far, but I know they're out there. I'd take my chances with the Buzz any day over the CB.

I've had that challenge twice. I managed to win it yesterday (there is a trivia God) but the first time I received the challenge I didn't. Such is life.. but did I have to win Crystal Ball the first hour of the day after my challenge? What can you do but laugh? laugh
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 12:50 AM

Originally Posted By: spanishliz
The only time I can recall a day when absolutely no quizzes went online was when we used to have a Christmas sabbatical, and quiz writing was shut down for the holidays. Even then I think quizzes already in the queue could be put online if the editors were available. The only problem I see with this challenge is the pressure that some editors might feel to fast track quizzes that might not be ready. (Not that any of us would, we just might feel the pressure to do so.)

Twenty-one quizzes have gone online in the past 24 hours. Surely that doesn't equate to a GC shutdown?


No, 21 quizzes in 24 hours is certainly not equivalent to a GC shut down. That was today, and that is amazing. But, as I said, I went through a full 16 hours without a new quiz the other day, which is well beyond having to play 9 hours of a game. Looking for a balance that is fair to players.
Posted by: AlanHill2306

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 01:39 AM

I completed the Easy Challenge which was to score at least 50% in the Brain Twist game. I scored 3 out of 5 which is 60% but it hasn't awarded me the Funtrivia credit and still shows as incomplete. Maybe it's a timing issue as I did it shortly after midnight but I should still get the credit.

UPDATE The new day has now begun and I didn't get the credit even though I met the requirements. So there is a problem.
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 02:59 AM

I reckon I've got two chances of a new quiz going online when I can play it, in between going to bed and going to work, that is, and those chances are buckleys and none smile

Oh well, it happens I suppose!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 08:19 AM

If you don't like the challenge to play a quiz within 20 minutes, my suggestion is to not do it. But please, do not come here and complain about it being "unfair". It is perfectly fair; it's listed as a hard challenge, and it is different than most challenges because a bit of luck plays into it. If you happen to be unlucky enough to not see any new quizzes online for 16 hours, I do not see how that is the challenge's problem. It's just crumby luck.

We most certainly are not expected to win them all, and if this challenge seems to be the one you cannot win, so be it. Move on; there are plenty of other challenges for you to enjoy.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 09:25 AM

The problem is I suspect most Funtrivia editors are in America and Futrivia is a global website and people in other timezones have to sleep sometime during the 24 hour period. Upto 9:23PM Funtrivia time there had been only 9 new quizzes an 8 of them were in a 2 hour time span. As I said before in future I shall just ignore the challenge.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 09:46 AM

I'd actually think editor's are pretty evenly distributed. We have several from Australia (three come to mind immediately), one is from Germany, several are from UK, and, as far as I can tell, not as many as one would suspect from Canada and US.

I think it's fairly evenly distributed. smile
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 11:43 AM

Quote:
The problem is I suspect most Funtrivia editors are in America and Futrivia is a global website and people in other timezones have to sleep sometime during the 24 hour period.


This isn't really the case. Only about a third of our editors are in the U.S. (across the whole thing). The rest are from Canada, Australia, the UK, other parts of Europe, etc. Not to mention, some like me are up at odd hours (I was on until about 3am FST last night) so it can be a bit of a mixed bag.

Also, there's one that just went up in Movies.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 01:35 PM

The challenge in question is correctly labelled difficult.
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
If you don't like the challenge to play a quiz within 20 minutes, my suggestion is to not do it. But please, do not come here and complain about it being "unfair". It is perfectly fair; it's listed as a hard challenge, and it is different than most challenges because a bit of luck plays into it. If you happen to be unlucky enough to not see any new quizzes online for 16 hours, I do not see how that is the challenge's problem. It's just crumby luck.

We most certainly are not expected to win them all, and if this challenge seems to be the one you cannot win, so be it. Move on; there are plenty of other challenges for you to enjoy.


I wasn't complaining, I just wrote that I had two chances of winning that one. Could you please point out where I used the word "unfair" please, because I sure can't find it?
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: bubbatom1
Originally Posted By: salami_swami
If you don't like the challenge to play a quiz within 20 minutes, my suggestion is to not do it. But please, do not come here and complain about it being "unfair". It is perfectly fair; it's listed as a hard challenge, and it is different than most challenges because a bit of luck plays into it. If you happen to be unlucky enough to not see any new quizzes online for 16 hours, I do not see how that is the challenge's problem. It's just crumby luck.

We most certainly are not expected to win them all, and if this challenge seems to be the one you cannot win, so be it. Move on; there are plenty of other challenges for you to enjoy.


I wasn't complaining, I just wrote that I had two chances of winning that one. Could you please point out where I used the word "unfair" please, because I sure can't find it?


I think salami is just referencing everyone in general, as you aren't the first one to bring this post up. And others have used the word "unfair".

I had that one once. There were quizzes that came online, but I didn't want to do a book by some author I've never heard of, or some punk band. So I didn't play, and didn't win it. Next day.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 02:25 PM

Yes, I was by no means responding to your post, BubbaTom. I was making a general statement; it just was replied to yours since yours was the last post to have been made. smile
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 11:31 PM

I decided to scrap my difficult challenge on Television as I thought it was unfair on the authors having to rate their quizzes poor or very poor.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 11:32 PM

Quote:
I decided to scrap my difficult challenge on Television as I thought it was unfair on the authors having to rate their quizzes poor or very poor.


Hey, if they're actually poor quizzes... tongue
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 11 2012 11:39 PM

If you don't rate poor for poor quizzes, how can the better ones rise to the top? As long as you are rating on the basis of the quiz's quality, and not your score, of course. grin
Posted by: AlanHill2306

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 12 2012 12:39 AM

Got no response to the original post sent 11 Oct so I send again updated as now 12 Oct.

I completed the Easy Challenge (on 11 Oct) which was to score at least 50% in the Brain Twist game. I scored 3 out of 5 which is 60% but it hasn't awarded me the Funtrivia credit and still shows as incomplete. Maybe it's a timing issue as I did it shortly after midnight but I should still get the credit.

UPDATE: 12 Oct has now begun and I didn't get the credit even though I met the requirements. So there is a problem.
Posted by: bubbatom1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 12 2012 03:02 AM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Yes, I was by no means responding to your post, BubbaTom. I was making a general statement; it just was replied to yours since yours was the last post to have been made. smile


I understand how it can become quite annoying when people do nothing but complain all the time, or complain that something is unfair. I will admit I've done it, but not with the challenges, I do enjoy them! I can't wait to see what I've been given each day. : smile
Posted by: tootie0406

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 12 2012 08:27 AM

I had a Challenge on Wednesday that didn't work. My challenge was to play England: Sports and Games in Quiz Mode, but I got an Error 3 Loading message with a long http mentioning forum images. I read back and someone else had this issue with a Quiz Game and it seemed like an easy fix. I don't care about losing the challenge, but I was hoping to get back the 9 credits I spent to get it.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 12 2012 11:17 AM

Originally Posted By: AlanHill2306
Got no response to the original post sent 11 Oct so I send again updated as now 12 Oct.

I completed the Easy Challenge (on 11 Oct) which was to score at least 50% in the Brain Twist game. I scored 3 out of 5 which is 60% but it hasn't awarded me the Funtrivia credit and still shows as incomplete. Maybe it's a timing issue as I did it shortly after midnight but I should still get the credit.

UPDATE: 12 Oct has now begun and I didn't get the credit even though I met the requirements. So there is a problem.


Bug fixed.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 12 2012 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By: tootie0406
I had a Challenge on Wednesday that didn't work. My challenge was to play England: Sports and Games in Quiz Mode, but I got an Error 3 Loading message with a long http mentioning forum images. I read back and someone else had this issue with a Quiz Game and it seemed like an easy fix. I don't care about losing the challenge, but I was hoping to get back the 9 credits I spent to get it.


Sorry, I don't even have a record of that challenge since it was a few days ago. (we usually don't go back and issue credits for bugs either, hope our apologies will suffice!)

I'll look into the quiz in question though and see what's up.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 12 2012 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Right now it is possible to receive 2 challenges that complete at midnight. So yes, you may find yourself in a situation that you complete 9 challenges in a day and through no fault of your own are unable to purchase a tenth.

Is this still true?

Also, is there any chance of you putting up a score board so we can see the top completions in easy/medium/hard/epic/total challenges?
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 03:23 AM

Personal daily challenges changed into a competion between other players? Well, that only took 3 weeks to come up!
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 04:50 AM

lol, mehaul! Came up at the top of the thread I think! I still say no. laugh




Is the following a bug?

Easy: Play a quiz whose title begins with the letter E and score at least 3 correct.

I played: "Empire Builder" Part 1, got 6 correct, but challenge says incomplete. (Played it in flash mode.)


I'm just wondering if it's because of the quotation marks? Or something else.




(Scored with a different quiz in flash mode, without the quotation mark issue, and that scored with no problem).
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 05:20 AM

It's a known issue on the "to be fixed" list.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 05:47 AM

Thanks Wesley. So we're to steer clear of quotation marks until further notice, I take it. smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 07:59 AM

Oops -- yeah, the quotation mark issue IS fixed for some of the game types but looks like I missed that one. Busy family schedule today, so probably won't get a fix til tomorrow. Please play another that has no quotes!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 03:13 PM

So glad this challenge:

"Complete a FunTrivia Challenge that results in a mini-badge or a badge being won."

was changed to include mini-badges as well as regular badges. I finally won it with an 8-letter "kangaroo" for the "Nice Word" mini. Justice for narrowly missing it the last time, when my badge was awarded after midnight. laugh
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 06:33 PM

Well done kaddarsgirl!

I've had that one twice this week but I'm getting very wary of it as my pool of easily obtainable badges gets smaller and smaller!

Well done to nautilator for being first to snag the '10 in a Day' mini badge.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 13 2012 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: collybird
Well done kaddarsgirl!

I've had that one twice this week but I'm getting very wary of it as my pool of easily obtainable badges gets smaller and smaller!


Thanks laugh Yeah, I'm pretty much out of easy ones. There are a few luck ones left I could get, some I'm just not ready for yet, and several that I could do if I had all day to work on them.

Originally Posted By: collybird
Well done to nautilator for being first to snag the '10 in a Day' mini badge.


I second this! Quite an impressive feat! Especially this early in the game. It takes a lot of patience to save those credits up.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 05:23 AM

Well done, nautilator. I admire the will power. I keep meaning to save the credits, but then I'm hoping to get an epic. So far, I mainly get given difficult extra challenges. I must learn not to spend but to save (and now I sound like my mother).
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 06:47 AM

My easy challenge for today is to
Play a mixed quiz (as listed on the homepage under Newest Mixed Quizzes) and score 677 points. Click the PLAY link (not HTML) for credit.

I play on my iPad which does not have flash player. I can't complete this challenge. Help?!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 09:42 AM

Golfmom, unless you swap out the challenge, there'll be no way for you to complete it on the iPad.

Did you use the iPad when you first accessed challenges today? Terry said he has some code in there that if it detects a Flash-incompatible Apple device upon assigning challenges (which happens the first time you click the challenges link any given day), it would not give you any challenges requiring Flash.

If you used the iPad, there's probably an issue left with that code somewhere, otherwise just be sure to always retrieve your challenges on the iPad if you want to play them there.

For Terry: [c:334,u:65084]
Posted by: rustic_les

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 01:23 PM

It would appear that the minimum credits required to attempt 10 in one day is 115. I tried today after starting out with 114. I cleared the first nine only to discover to my absolute horror and chagrin that the tenth challenge was costing 27 credits. I had 26.
Lolbeans and roflburgers.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Golfmom, unless you swap out the challenge, there'll be no way for you to complete it on the iPad.

Did you use the iPad when you first accessed challenges today? Terry said he has some code in there that if it detects a Flash-incompatible Apple device upon assigning challenges (which happens the first time you click the challenges link any given day), it would not give you any challenges requiring Flash.

If you used the iPad, there's probably an issue left with that code somewhere, otherwise just be sure to always retrieve your challenges on the iPad if you want to play them there.

For Terry: [c:334,u:65084]




I always play only on my iPad. I'm always logged in. I can't buy another challenge today as I have 2 unfinished challenges and have already used my switch out option. Oh well.

Thank you Wesley.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 02:39 PM

On my challenge today there was written, "Your nemesis for today is unassigned right now. Please try back later when more players are given this challenge so we can pair you up."

Does this mean I may not be able to complete this challenge? The day is more than halfway over (it's 2:39pm FT time). When will my nemesis be assigned?
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 02:48 PM

Hopefully you'll get partnered with someone, but I read somewhere if you don't get assigned a nemesis, you will get credit for winning the challenge, probably in the FAQ.

EDIT: Yep, here from the FAQ:

Quote:
I just received Twin or Nemesis but have not yet been assigned a partner

Try back a little later to see if your partner has been assigned.

In the rare case that you never get paired up with anyone, you will receive credit for the challenge at midnight.
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 02:51 PM

Taken from the Question and Answer section of the Daily Challenge:
" I just received Twin or Nemesis but have not yet been assigned a partner

Try back a little later to see if your partner has been assigned.

In the rare case that you never get paired up with anyone, you will receive credit for the challenge at midnight."



Hope this answers your question.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 03:31 PM

Les, it depends on which difficulty level you receive. If you get all easy challenges purchased, for instance, you need a lot more credits than 115. If you somehow manage epics every time, you need a lot less. ;-)
Posted by: cubswin2323

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 05:00 PM

I've been steadily collecting credits over the past few days so I can make a run at it.What would be really cool is if I could get the "20" badge at the same time!
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 05:25 PM

Started the day with challenge totals: 21, 23, 19. Difficult today was to win a Buzzy Bee Scavenger Hunt, which I didn't really think was a possibility considering the possible places it could be. Amazing stroke of luck though, in the most recent hunt, the second quiz I chose was the lucky Buzzy Bee and I now have the Daily Adventurer smile Pretty minimal effort there I guess...thought I was going to have to play all 40 quizzes in the category!
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 05:56 PM

Congrats on getting that one. I also was playing for the Busy Bee and after playing 5 or 6 quizzes decided to check back on the Buzz and you'd just won it, so didn't have to continue playing any more in 'Color' quizzes. Just hope there's another Busy Bee this evening!!!!


Oops! I guess I was too 'busy' playing that I neglected to call the Bee 'Buzzy'

Tried on the very next BB Scavenger Hunt and won it on the second quiz, so I'm real happy:)
Posted by: bigyaz

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 06:46 PM

"Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge. Note that mixed generated quizzes do not count -- just regular player created quizzes."

I continually refreshed the new quiz page. By the time the quiz appears on that page, the quiz already 20 minutes old. I know I'm not a gold member, but this quiz is unwinnable. I suggest relaxing the requirement to 30 minutes or so.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 06:48 PM

Originally Posted By: bigyaz
"Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge. Note that mixed generated quizzes do not count -- just regular player created quizzes."

I continually refreshed the new quiz page. By the time the quiz appears on that page, the quiz already 20 minutes old. I know I'm not a gold member, but this quiz is unwinnable. I suggest relaxing the requirement to 30 minutes or so.


The quiz appears on The Buzz on the homepage (and on the Buzz page) the minute they're posted.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Tekka
Congrats on getting that one. I also was playing for the Busy Bee and after playing 5 or 6 quizzes decided to check back on the Buzz and you'd just won it, so didn't have to continue playing any more in 'Color' quizzes. Just hope there's another Busy Bee this evening!!!!


I've won the Buzzy Bee three times, once for the badge a while ago, once because it was category I liked, and then today for my challenge. I play the quizzes backward through the topic in question, so lowest rated to highest. I figure I improve my chances that way, since if the quiz was at the beginning (ie. the highest rated) someone would already have won it...does that make sense?
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Started the day with challenge totals: 21, 23, 19. Difficult today was to win a Buzzy Bee Scavenger Hunt, which I didn't really think was a possibility considering the possible places it could be. Amazing stroke of luck though, in the most recent hunt, the second quiz I chose was the lucky Buzzy Bee and I now have the Daily Adventurer smile Pretty minimal effort there I guess...thought I was going to have to play all 40 quizzes in the category!


Lucky you! I did the Buzzy Bee yesterday and played 34 to get there. :P At least I didn't have to play all 104, I guess! Congratulations on the Daily Adventurer!
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 10:10 PM

Thanks, I just saw your reply here as I was offline for awhile and tried the next BB a few minutes ago and won it on the second quiz - yahoo:)
I had previously actually won the badge a few months ago, but there was more pressure this time to get 'challenge' points, so I'm relieved it's done, but this is what makes these games the challenge they're meant to be.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 14 2012 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Tekka
Thanks, I just saw your reply here as I was offline for awhile and tried the next BB a few minutes ago and won it on the second quiz - yahoo:)
I had previously actually won the badge a few months ago, but there was more pressure this time to get 'challenge' points, so I'm relieved it's done, but this is what makes these games the challenge they're meant to be.


Congrats! What I like best about the Buzzy Bee is that it takes people to so many categories and subcategories they wouldn't normally play...and some they've probably never heard of! laugh Glad I didn't screw you out of your own challenge points with my win earlier today smile If I had, that would have made me sad frown
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 04:35 AM

How about a category safari? Score 7 or higher in a quiz in 8 different categories. You may retake quizzes you have not played within the last 30 days.

Should this say "player-authored quiz"? I tried one of the "bot" quizzes and didn't get credit.
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 05:22 AM

Hi, could my score be checked please?Ive played the quick quiz to get the 50 points I needed to twin and somehow Ive got 100 points....
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 05:23 AM

Forgot to say I anwered 5 questions correct and then submitted them.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 05:36 AM

I would really like to get the Share A Story challenge! wink
Posted by: bigyaz

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 06:34 AM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Originally Posted By: bigyaz
"Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge. Note that mixed generated quizzes do not count -- just regular player created quizzes."

I continually refreshed the new quiz page. By the time the quiz appears on that page, the quiz already 20 minutes old. I know I'm not a gold member, but this quiz is unwinnable. I suggest relaxing the requirement to 30 minutes or so.


The quiz appears on The Buzz on the homepage (and on the Buzz page) the minute they're posted.


I looked on the front page under the NEW tab, as well as the page that that the hyperlink in the puzzle brings you to. I was continuously refreshing both of those pages with no success. At least have the page that is linked to the puzzle update in real time to give the player the chance at that challenge. Thank you.
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 06:50 AM

bigyaz, on the top line of the home page between Games and Team is Other. There is a drop down menu there and the first thing you'll see is The Buzz.
The other option is on the home page. Try the What's Up link to the right of the New link. Hope that helps.
Posted by: TimBentley

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 07:24 AM

Originally Posted By: rustic_les
It would appear that the minimum credits required to attempt 10 in one day is 115. I tried today after starting out with 114. I cleared the first nine only to discover to my absolute horror and chagrin that the tenth challenge was costing 27 credits. I had 26.
Lolbeans and roflburgers.

Was that 114 after you had completed your starting three challenges? The FAQ could be clarified to say you should have 114 credits before completing those three.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 07:35 AM

Originally Posted By: bigyaz
Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Originally Posted By: bigyaz
"Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes after it goes online. A perfect score or at most one question wrong will complete this challenge. Note that mixed generated quizzes do not count -- just regular player created quizzes."

I continually refreshed the new quiz page. By the time the quiz appears on that page, the quiz already 20 minutes old. I know I'm not a gold member, but this quiz is unwinnable. I suggest relaxing the requirement to 30 minutes or so.


The quiz appears on The Buzz on the homepage (and on the Buzz page) the minute they're posted.


I looked on the front page under the NEW tab, as well as the page that that the hyperlink in the puzzle brings you to. I was continuously refreshing both of those pages with no success. At least have the page that is linked to the puzzle update in real time to give the player the chance at that challenge. Thank you.



I must admit, I think that happened to me too, in the first week (the hyperlinked page not showing the new quiz promptly enough) because I was watching like a hawk and only saw a quiz when it was too late to play.

I put it down to a glitch or me getting the wrong end of the stick or cached pages or something, but the next time I had that challenge I thought it was slow to update again -- I eventually flicked between all 3 of the suggested places just so I wouldn't miss it. That worked.

(30 minutes might be better, I don't know. Might make it easier on the nerves!! Definitely not unwinnable though - I've won it twice.)
Posted by: James25

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 07:42 AM

I wonder about something in regards to the Buzzy Bee challenge. I've had that challenge twice now (and failed it too). Each time I noticed that the Buzzy Bee was found quite quickly, probably due to the fact that several people will have this challenge (on one of the days at least four people on my team had that particular challenge). Does it not make it more difficult for people (new posters) who simply want to earn that badge (without a challenge requiring them to do so)? The competition seems to be more fierce now, considering the fact that most people used to win that badge and then not play that anymore.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 07:50 AM

Originally Posted By: James25
I wonder about something in regards to the Buzzy Bee challenge. I've had that challenge twice now (and failed it too). Each time I noticed that the Buzzy Bee was found quite quickly, probably due to the fact that several people will have this challenge (on one of the days at least four people on my team had that particular challenge). Does it not make it more difficult for people (new posters) who simply want to earn that badge (without a challenge requiring them to do so)? The competition seems to be more fierce now, considering the fact that most people used to win that badge and then not play that anymore.


What's wrong with a little competition in earning the badge? It's always been a race anyway, and luck if you get it or not. It requires that you both find the quiz and get the required score in HTML mode. If someone plays the wrong mode or doesn't get the required score on the magic quiz, other people still have a chance. It's also possible that someone just stumbles across the magic quiz in regular play, not even knowing the quiz is the current magic quiz for the Hunt. It's supposed to be a challenge anyway, it's not a gimme. It's not impossible to win with all the competition out there either. Tekka played a Hunt that had already been live for over an hour yesterday and won it. The Hunt I won yesterday had been on for a while, too.
Posted by: James25

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 08:15 AM

There is nothing wrong with a little competition and this has never been an easy badge to win. And it should not have to be. But I just simply wondered if isn't getting harder than it used to be for a poster to win the badge. Not sure whether that is a desired effect of the Challenges. I am not necessarily suggesting a fix here, just bringing it to attention to see how others feel about this. It is something that occurred to me, while playing this challenge.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
..... I play the quizzes backward through the topic in question, so lowest rated to highest. I figure I improve my chances that way, since if the quiz was at the beginning (ie. the highest rated) someone would already have won it...does that make sense?


Yes but... I do that too. So... now what?!! eek I will have to play from the middle outwards from now on.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 08:25 AM

It's harder than before the challenges started, yes. But not harder day-by-day, as the number of people getting that challenge is approximately constant day-to-day. So it's as hard now as it ever will be. It will also likely get easier over time as new challenges are added and it gets issued less frequently.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 09:05 AM

I play completely randomly. The ones I've played will be purple, so I can still keep track between quizzes I've played before and those I haven't... :P I figure everyone else goes forward or backwards, so dare to be different. :P
Posted by: agony

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 09:36 AM

For those looking for quizzes in their first fifteen minutes - the "new quizzes" update on the home page only shows quizzes that are past that time. Click on "buzz" for new quizzes - for me it shows up on the home page right next to my mailbox, up top.
Posted by: dsimpy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 10:04 AM

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before ... apologies if so ... and it's probably more of a 'damn and blast' than a glitch per se ...

My difficult challenge today is to score higher than a nominated opponent in one Who's the Expert? game, with a maximum of four games each.

In my second game I messed up with a stupid error, and knew I could have done better. So I deployed my 'mulligan' perk for the week, avoided mistakes ... and did better. smilee

I HOPED as a 'mulligan' perk that it wouldn't count as my third game, but would just replace the score for my second game. Of course it didn't. wink

Is that an intention within the game's design, or something that wasn't foreseen? Should it be changed, or not? cool
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 10:13 AM

Originally Posted By: agony
For those looking for quizzes in their first fifteen minutes - the "new quizzes" update on the home page only shows quizzes that are past that time. Click on "buzz" for new quizzes - for me it shows up on the home page right next to my mailbox, up top.


That's probably the issue then because as far as I can recall the hyperlink in the Daily Challenge brings you to here; sounds like it's more appropriate if it sends you the Buzz/What's Up page?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 10:24 AM

Originally Posted By: dsimpy
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before ... apologies if so ... and it's probably more of a 'damn and blast' than a glitch per se ...

My difficult challenge today is to score higher than a nominated opponent in one Who's the Expert? game, with a maximum of four games each.

In my second game I messed up with a stupid error, and knew I could have done better. So I deployed my 'mulligan' perk for the week, avoided mistakes ... and did better. smilee

I HOPED as a 'mulligan' perk that it wouldn't count as my third game, but would just replace the score for my second game. Of course it didn't. wink

Is that an intention within the game's design, or something that wasn't foreseen? Should it be changed, or not? cool


That happened twice to me when I used my Milligan. Someone had warned me about it before I used it in the challenge, so I knew it worked that way. This was brought up several pages back but nothing was said about it by Terry the last time, so it's good you brought it back up, I think smile It will bring it up to his attention again when he next reads this thread.
Posted by: baban

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 10:27 AM

In my Medium and Difficult challenges today neither has a hyperlink to Mind Melt or Daily Game as needed, and they always have before. Does that classify as a bug? My Easy challenge was hyperlinked.

I'm really enjoying the Daily Challenges - thanks Terry and the testers.
Posted by: dippo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 10:55 AM

Is there a danger of some of the challenges diluting some of the features of the site? In my opinion, the standard of some of the questions in Ask Funtrivia seems to be declining.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 10:59 AM

Originally Posted By: dippo
In my opinion, the standard of some of the questions in Ask Funtrivia seems to be declining.


I was just thinking the same. There have been several lately that have come in as sets...I didn't know there was one that required you to ask a question until I got it last week. I haven't seen it ask for more than one to be posted though. The one I saw a couple times in testing, that I think is a much better challenge relating to that part of the site, is one which asks you to answer a question or to provide more information to a previously answered question.
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 11:08 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
The one I saw a couple times in testing, that I think is a much better challenge relating to that part of the site, is one which asks you to answer a question or to provide more information to a previously answered question.


That one is still in there; I've gotten both. I do agree with dippo, though. I've also noticed that more responses are citing to sources, but not providing a link (e.g., "According to Wikipedia, . . ."). I don't know if that's because the challenges are directing more people to Ask FT who aren't as familiar with the guidelines, but it's something I noticed.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 11:14 AM

And the questions are becoming far easier...

The use of this aspect of the site is to get answers to questions you cannot find on your own. When I had those tasks, I found it difficult to find a question I would genuinely like an answer for, but could not find through my own research. I would imagine I am one of the few who actually take the time to find a question they WANT answered, AND cannot find the info on their own.

I agree that it should be removed. Or given only to players who will actually use it for what it is.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 11:20 AM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
When I had those tasks, I found it difficult to find a question I would genuinely like an answer for, but could not find through my own research. I would imagine I am one of the few who actually take the time to find a question they WANT answered, AND cannot find the info on their own.


It is amazing how difficult it is to come up with questions like that. As someone who is going for the "AskFT Researcher" badge, though, it is nice to have some of the questions that I don't have spend hours doing searches for. I've only asked a few questions in that part of site, because like you said, I want to ask questions that are in the spirit of that part of this site, and it is soooo hard to come up with good questions.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 11:21 AM

I'm stockpiling questions. wink
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 12:00 PM

Just wondering why in both of my nemesis games in the difficult area, I was given the same player? Is this player the only one that I will be competing against? Or is there a rotation?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 12:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Emma058
Just wondering why in both of my nemesis games in the difficult area, I was given the same player? Is this player the only one that I will be competing against? Or is there a rotation?


It's all completely random. I've gotten several different Nemesis so far. That's just crazy luck that you got the same person twice! It all has to do with the order the challenges are picked up by the players when they log in each day.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 08:03 PM

My team mates have gotten challenges like score 10/10 in the easy game in under 13 seconds. While I realize that it's supposed to be a hard challenge, look at yesterday's scores:

http://www.funtrivia.com/hourly2/tvt_yesterdayinfo.cfm

Only 4-6 people across the whole site would qualify for that one. Isn't that way too difficult? Maybe that needs to be relaxed a little.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 08:15 PM

I was under the impression that they would only get that challenge with that particular time if they had achieved that time before. That the challenge takes a time/score from the player's history.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 15 2012 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
I was under the impression that they would only get that challenge with that particular time if they had achieved that time before. That the challenge takes a time/score from the player's history.


That's how it is supposed to be set up, yes.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 12:34 AM

Quote:
Play a quiz whose title begins with the letter G and score at least 3 correct. Gandalf 9/10. Complete


I'm not sure if this needs fixing, but I've played that quiz "Gandalf" before, I don't remember when. Is it fine counting it?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 02:47 AM

As long as you haven't played it within 30 days, it is fine for the challenges.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 03:30 AM

The two AskFT challenges are related and need to be in or out there as a pair. Originally, it was only the challenge to answer a question, but this would very quickly become impossible to play if there's not also a way to get more questions into the rotation as well (and it was difficult to fins unanswered questions even before the challenges were started).

Maybe this should have a level minimum to ensure it will only be given to players reasonably familiar with how the site works.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 06:58 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The two AskFT challenges are related and need to be in or out there as a pair. Originally, it was only the challenge to answer a question, but this would very quickly become impossible to play if there's not also a way to get more questions into the rotation as well (and it was difficult to fins unanswered questions even before the challenges were started).

Maybe this should have a level minimum to ensure it will only be given to players reasonably familiar with how the site works.


That might be the way to go.

The other day, I had the challenge to answer,or contribute to an answer. I found a quiz that had three answers (all the same), but no references. I reiterated the answer, and then said, "Here is the required reference..."
Posted by: dippo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 09:24 AM

Is there any way that the highlighting which shows the quizzes already taken by Gold Members could come in two different colours? One for quizzes taken 31 or more days ago, and one for quizzes taken in the last 30 days? The number of challenges that require you to play a certain amount of quizzes not played in the last 30 days means that this would become increasingly helpful as time goes on.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 09:39 AM

Bubbles and Kaddars are right. That score is taken from scores previously achieved by that player. Someone who never gets under 20 seconds, for instance, will never receive. Players who average 10-15 seconds for each game (I'm looking at you, Prison :P), will get very low times as their challenge.

This is designed to keep things challenging for every player. Players who are less familiar with the game will not ever see such times. smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 09:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Dippo
Is there any way that the highlighting which shows the quizzes already taken by Gold Members could come in two different colours? One for quizzes taken 31 or more days ago, and one for quizzes taken in the last 30 days? The number of challenges that require you to play a certain amount of quizzes not played in the last 30 days means that this would become increasingly helpful as time goes on.


I would love this system as well, should it be possible.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Originally Posted By: Dippo
Is there any way that the highlighting which shows the quizzes already taken by Gold Members could come in two different colours? One for quizzes taken 31 or more days ago, and one for quizzes taken in the last 30 days? The number of challenges that require you to play a certain amount of quizzes not played in the last 30 days means that this would become increasingly helpful as time goes on.


I would love this system as well, should it be possible.


Ditto smile
Posted by: bigstiq

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 10:23 AM

Hi Guys

First time poster so please be gentle wink

Today my Difficult Daily Challenge is to score 11239 points in the Global Challenge game.

Now, in one of the quizzes I scored 15 out of 15 in a reasonable time, 50 seconds so not particularly speedy but not that slow at just over 3 seconds to read and answer each question, coupled with the Expert bonus I scored 1450.

Given that if I did 6 quizzes (including the Brain Twist or Impossible quizzes), scored 100% in a decent time AND got the Expert bonuses that would only give me 6 x 1450 = 8700 points, still MILES off hitting the target.

So my question is:

Am I too slow, is this is a bug or am I just missing something important?

This isn't a complaint, I'm just a bit confused and would like some help smile

Thanks for any help given smile

Euan
Posted by: bigstiq

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 10:28 AM

Hey, straight after posting I've found the answer myself!

I thought there was a new round every 24 hours, just discovered it's 12 - I feel a bit daft now.

smile
Posted by: miffy42

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 10:29 AM

Hi Euan, yes you are missing an important bit, you can play the Global Challenge TWICE a day. That would make it slightly more bearable for you smile
Posted by: Daddy19

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 10:32 AM

I think Dippo's suggestion about colouring quizzes played sooner and older than 30 days would be a good idea as well!

edited for clarification given a new page started
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 10:36 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Originally Posted By: Dippo
Is there any way that the highlighting which shows the quizzes already taken by Gold Members could come in two different colours? One for quizzes taken 31 or more days ago, and one for quizzes taken in the last 30 days? The number of challenges that require you to play a certain amount of quizzes not played in the last 30 days means that this would become increasingly helpful as time goes on.


I would love this system as well, should it be possible.


Ditto smile


Yup... I was just thinking about this the other day smile
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 10:43 AM

I love that idea. I was wondering about that today.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By: postcards2go
Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Originally Posted By: Dippo
Is there any way that the highlighting which shows the quizzes already taken by Gold Members could come in two different colours? One for quizzes taken 31 or more days ago, and one for quizzes taken in the last 30 days? The number of challenges that require you to play a certain amount of quizzes not played in the last 30 days means that this would become increasingly helpful as time goes on.


I would love this system as well, should it be possible.


Ditto smile


Yup... I was just thinking about this the other day smile


Unfortunately, date data is not stored with gold member "has-played" data, so there's no efficient way to do that.

I could probably add a status on a quiz-detail page though that tells you if you have played within the last 30 days.
Posted by: dippo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 12:45 PM

Yes please!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 12:49 PM

Anything that helps would be appreciated. smile
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 01:00 PM

That would be great, Terry. At least it would prevent wasted time, playing a quiz that you played 29 days ago... no points *and* no challenge credit.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 06:37 PM

About the Nemesis challenge, how is the random opponent selected? Is it just absolutely any FT member or is it someone who has accessed/looked at their daily challenges today? The person I'm up against has registered 0 points today, just wondering if it;s possible that I'm matched with someone who may not even ever look at what their challenges are? If so, it doesn't really seem like much of a challenge.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 16 2012 07:51 PM

BigStig: I did the same thing as you when I got that Challenge earlier this month - panicked and said NO way lol. You probably have an idea of the relief I felt when I discovered it kept track of the whole day lol (just thought you might like to know that you weren't alone) : )

As for the AskTrivia thing: how would you go about determining if a person was "reasonably familiar" with the site? Just curious.

GG: I'm sure there are lots of folks who neither look at, or care (or understand for that matter) about the new challenges. I had the Twin thing yesterday. The person didn't understand what needed to be done and I contacted them too late (due to geolocation) to fix anything. I feel like I let that person down though, sigh.
At least with yours, you just needed to get to a specific score lol
Posted by: zorba_scank

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 10:05 AM

This is just a suggestion. Since the Daily Challenge where you to have score better than your opponent in the Expert game only counts the first 4 plays, can the challenge be awarded after both players complete their 4 attempts rather than waiting till midnight?
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 10:16 AM

Originally Posted By: zorba_scank
This is just a suggestion. Since the Daily Challenge where you to have score better than your opponent in the Expert game only counts the first 4 plays, can the challenge be awarded after both players complete their 4 attempts rather than waiting till midnight?


I thought of suggesting that too. Probably for the same reasons you are suggesting it - points, new challenges etc.

And then I reconsidered.

Perhaps it would put undue pressure on the player/s to either forfeit or play a game they didn't really want to play? But if it doesn't get marked until midnight anyway, there can be no pressure. Maybe that's nicer/fairer. I'm still deciding but think it might be. ?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 10:18 AM

I think it's fairer to wait until midnight, personally.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 10:55 AM

Correct. I don't want someone who is trying to cram in more badges harassing the other player to play an expert game to "finish it off".

I agree it would be nice to be able to score it intra-day, but it would have some undesired side effects.
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 01:42 PM

This isn't so much a bug as a clarification request. I've already done this today but it might be handy to know next time I get this challenge.
Quote:
How well can you string together successes? Play any six tough or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.

Does that mean you can't play an hourly or daily game in the middle of the string of quizzes? Or is it just the quizzes that are recorded for the purposes of the challenge and the games can be played at random while attempting the challenge? Ta smile
Posted by: PDUBS1980

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 04:09 PM

I don't think this is a bug, and I'm more just venting some frustration here, but it stinks when you buy a challenge and see that you've already failed it without even a chance to succeed. Today I bought a challenge and received "Play today's Who am I? game in difficult mode and score 689 points". I had already played the game in easy mode and so that's 9 credits down the drain frown

Does it make sense to filter just the purchased challenges such that those involving the once-a-day games are not given? I understand I could have bought the challenge earlier in the day before I played, but I typically try to complete all the challenges I've been assigned before buying any new ones. I always check my challenges in the morning to see if they involve the daily games and then play accordingly.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 04:37 PM

One of the pieces of advice on the FAQ page says that, if you think you will or might want to purchase one or more challenges during the day, you should play strategically.

Quote:
If you want to optimize your chances at playing challenges throughout the day and avoid getting frustrated at an unexpected requirement, the following should help you to do well even without knowing exactly what is being called for:


Make sure you still have your swap-out available for the week if you are a Gold Member. It may save your day.
Do not play your My Quiz before it is asked in a challenge - it will require you to choose a specific difficulty.
Feel free to play as many hourlies as you can even before they are asked for - you may be happy about that later. In particular, there is one challenge using the Smartest game that may be very nasty if you receive it late unless you have already played regularly throughout the day.
Playing the Global Challenge AM set is recommended.
If you want to play the dailies early, choose timed mode for the Daily mixed game and Mind Melt and Difficult mode for Who am I. However, it may be an even better strategy to hold back on the dailies until you are given a challenge requiring them.
You might find it useful for one particular rare challenge to still be able to play and bank Quick Questions when it does come up.
Any other play is optional - you cannot hurt your chances by playing quizzes, crosswords or the Monster Quiz if you simply play your best. If it's called for, you will in almost all cases get credit for play already done throughout the day.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: PDUBS1980
I don't think this is a bug, and I'm more just venting some frustration here, but it stinks when you buy a challenge and see that you've already failed it without even a chance to succeed. Today I bought a challenge and received "Play today's Who am I? game in difficult mode and score 689 points". I had already played the game in easy mode and so that's 9 credits down the drain frown

Does it make sense to filter just the purchased challenges such that those involving the once-a-day games are not given? I understand I could have bought the challenge earlier in the day before I played, but I typically try to complete all the challenges I've been assigned before buying any new ones. I always check my challenges in the morning to see if they involve the daily games and then play accordingly.



This was discussed over in the testing thread and also in the early pages of this thread. If you're planning on buying challenges during the day it has been previously suggested that you wait to play all daily games until a challenge asks you for it. If you are given an easy challenge for Who am I? for example, you cannot be given a medium Who am I? challenge when you purchase, but there's nothing set up to exclude it if you don't already have a similar challenge in your list. It's bad luck that you'd already failed it, but I don't think anything going to change regarding purchases. It shouldn't change how you play the games anyway. If you always play the best that you can, you can't really fault the system for giving you the challenge after you've played the game.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 17 2012 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
One of the pieces of advice on the FAQ page says that, if you think you will or might want to purchase one or more challenges during the day, you should play strategically.

Quote:
If you want to optimize your chances at playing challenges throughout the day and avoid getting frustrated at an unexpected requirement, the following should help you to do well even without knowing exactly what is being called for:


Make sure you still have your swap-out available for the week if you are a Gold Member. It may save your day.
Do not play your My Quiz before it is asked in a challenge - it will require you to choose a specific difficulty.
Feel free to play as many hourlies as you can even before they are asked for - you may be happy about that later. In particular, there is one challenge using the Smartest game that may be very nasty if you receive it late unless you have already played regularly throughout the day.
Playing the Global Challenge AM set is recommended.
If you want to play the dailies early, choose timed mode for the Daily mixed game and Mind Melt and Difficult mode for Who am I. However, it may be an even better strategy to hold back on the dailies until you are given a challenge requiring them.
You might find it useful for one particular rare challenge to still be able to play and bank Quick Questions when it does come up.
Any other play is optional - you cannot hurt your chances by playing quizzes, crosswords or the Monster Quiz if you simply play your best. If it's called for, you will in almost all cases get credit for play already done throughout the day.


It should be pointed out that this was written in testing with full knowledge of all challenges that exist. It will be very rare to encounter an instant failure if you follow these pieces of advice. If you do get one nonetheless, please let me know and I'll adapt the strategy advice accordingly smile
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 04:12 AM

This is not a Bug as such, but I thought I would mention it.

Normally I am on FT most days, but occasionally (well a bit more often than occasionally) I go on Holiday or away for a weekend.

For example this weekend away Friday to Monday and won't be on FT at all whilst away, will be on first thing Friday and possibly last thing Monday but Saturday and Sunday will be a nil points day

If I get matched in a Challenge to match other players score whilst away it means the person I have been put against suffers for me being missing as well as both have to score at least 500 points for challenge to be won.

Obviously not an issue with Nemesis or Expert challenge as other player would win, but in the score equalling challenge it would affect the outcome or am I missing something?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 04:55 AM

"If I get matched in a Challenge to match other players score whilst away it means the person I have been put against suffers for me being missing as well as both have to score at least 500 points for challenge to be won."

Only one player has to score over 500 points, not both players. And Twin does not require that you have to have only equal points to win. Twin can be won as long as one twin has at least 500 points, and scores can differ by 0 points, or by 2500, 5000, or 10000 points.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 05:08 AM

My mistake I thought you both had to score a minimum of 500 points, if that's the case then obviously not a problem and I read it wrong
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 05:50 AM

Please correct me if I'm wrong (so I know what the score is) but I was under the impression that you had to click the Daily Challenges link to be issued with challenges. Therefore if you're away from the computer for any reason you won't be matched up with anyone for the Twin or Nemesis challenge. Or am I reading it incorrectly?
Originally Posted By: FAQ
In Twin and Nemesis, you are being paired up with another player who has picked up challenges for the day.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 05:54 AM

You're correct Tizzabelle. I think the situation in question though is more like if you clicked the challenge link, were issued the Twin or Nemesis, and then did not return, so it would all be left up to your partner.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 06:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Tizzabelle
This isn't so much a bug as a clarification request. I've already done this today but it might be handy to know next time I get this challenge.
Quote:
How well can you string together successes? Play any six tough or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.

Does that mean you can't play an hourly or daily game in the middle of the string of quizzes? Or is it just the quizzes that are recorded for the purposes of the challenge and the games can be played at random while attempting the challenge? Ta smile


It only applies to player originated quizzes, you can play the hourly games in between although I wouldn't do quiz of the hour as this is a player originated quiz.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 06:15 AM

I am going to be doing the 10 Challenges in a day soon and was wondering about the "Spend 9 credits to get a new challenge if the old challenge is a 24 hour one does that disappear or does it remain active, because if it doesn't remain active I'm going to require a lot more credits just to swap out all the challenges that can't be used for the badge. ie Nemesis.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 07:19 AM

The way I read it there are several challenges you can't swap out Nemesis being one of them.

I may be wrong
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 08:08 AM

I was really referring to the challenges you get when you spend credits. I can understand if the initial challenge is one that is a 24 hour challenge, I was just wondering if any of those you use credits on are like that? It is why I hope to do it at the weekend because those days are free for me and I realise it dould me doing a lot of quizzes. I also expect there maybe one or more Epic challenges that pop up and as I haven't bought any challenges yet I haven't a clue as to what they may involve, hence the reason for doing the Challenge when I have plenty of time to do whatever is thrown at me. I will not be at all surpirsed if I see a kitchen sink headed my way. lol
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 08:20 AM

When you purchase a new one it does not get rid of the old one it is an extra one to do and it could be a 24 hours one or at least result not known to end of FT day. If you end up with 2 challenges unfinished (i.e. results not done till end of day) I don't think you can but any more while you have 2 or more uncompleted, again I may be totally wrong, but that's the way I read it.

It's the luck of the draw I think

Yes and here it comes a large Kitchen Sink
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 08:55 AM

Ah yes! That would be A Belfast sink. As it flys past me.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 09:12 AM

You may purchase a challenge only if you have one or fewer challenges left to complete in the day. When you purchase the challenge, it could be ANY challenge. If you happen to have a challenge that will not end until midnight, and you purchase a challenge that also does not end until midnight, that means you have two incomplete challenges, and cannot purchase any more challenges. In that case, tough luck. wink
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 09:46 AM

Thanks salami for clearing that up. I'm going to have to prepare some tactics for the Ten in a Day badge then.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 10:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
I haven't bought any challenges yet I haven't a clue as to what they may involve


I was under the impression that (excluding epics and forgetting about difficulty levels), challenges gained from swaps/purchases are chosen from exactly the same list as the ones you get at the start of the day. I've definitely gained a challenge from a swap that I had previously got normally.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 10:31 AM

Originally Posted By: AdamM7
Originally Posted By: Starlord
I haven't bought any challenges yet I haven't a clue as to what they may involve


I was under the impression that (excluding epics and forgetting about difficulty levels), challenges gained from swaps/purchases are chosen from exactly the same list as the ones you get at the start of the day. I've definitely gained a challenge from a swap that I had previously got normally.


I think Starlord means that he doesn't know what to expect for Epic Challenges, since he hasn't seen any of those because he has yet to purchase any challenges (he's be hoarding credits).
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 11:13 AM

Originally Posted By: pmarney
This is not a Bug as such, but I thought I would mention it.

Normally I am on FT most days, but occasionally (well a bit more often than occasionally) I go on Holiday or away for a weekend.

For example this weekend away Friday to Monday and won't be on FT at all whilst away, will be on first thing Friday and possibly last thing Monday but Saturday and Sunday will be a nil points day

If I get matched in a Challenge to match other players score whilst away it means the person I have been put against suffers for me being missing as well as both have to score at least 500 points for challenge to be won.

Obviously not an issue with Nemesis or Expert challenge as other player would win, but in the score equalling challenge it would affect the outcome or am I missing something?


You don't get challenges issued for you if you're not here.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 12:15 PM

Congrats to Chavs on winning the first badgelet for this that I did not know even existed. laugh
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 12:28 PM

Ha! Is that the mystery one which Terry and Wes refused to let us test? Or is there yet another...

Well done Chavs. smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 12:31 PM

Looks to me like there's a strong possibility of version II's for all the Epics...with stricter requirements...

The mini looks really cool with double flags on it.

Great job Chavs!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 12:32 PM

I am guessing you're right, Flopsy, this has GOT to have something to do with Wes' big secret. And I already have my guesses as to how to complete said extra something.
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 01:19 PM

Play a new quiz within 20 minutes of it coming online.....it's been hours and hours since one has been on....this challenge is ridiculous.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 01:25 PM

One went online 32 minutes ago according to the homepage.
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 01:30 PM

Ive been clicking on the buzz ...I
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 01:47 PM

Today's Challenge: Score at least 30 questions correct in today's Mind Melt - using any mode.

Is there a secret method to get more than 30 questions in this daily game?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 01:48 PM

"Ready to take a tour of our categories? Score at least 8 questions correct in any quiz in 11 different categories (Animals, Brain Teasers, Geography, etc). You may replay quizzes not taken in the past 30 days."

I really like that this tracks all the quizzes I've played today with their categories and my scores AND that there is a separate tracker for completed categories that count toward the challenge total. Nice.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: WorldB
Today's Challenge: Score at least 30 questions correct in today's Mind Melt - using any mode.

Is there a secret method to get more than 30 questions in this daily game?


This has been asked many times before in this thread. The answer is always the same. Though the goal number changes, ranging from 14 or so up to 30, the text always remains the same. It only looks funny if your goal is the max number.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 02:03 PM

I've only been issued two challenges today... where's my Medium?!
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By: guitargoddess
where's my Medium?!


Searching the Crystal Ball for the right word. wink
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 03:33 PM

lol smile

Ok I have a Medium challenge now! Not sure what happened there. (But I really truly didn't have one there for awhile, I checked and checked!)
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 04:54 PM

I just grabbed mine and have a medium... but neither an easy nor a difficult.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 07:20 PM

Mine were all fine today.
And gracie, I've had that "play a quiz within 20 minutes" thing twice now and managed it both times (although on one I had to wait until past bedtime because I had missed the few that came online while I was at work). Don't despair!

Oh and somewhere up there someone said you couldn't purchase something unless you had at least one challenge not completed (or failed). I'm fairly certain I've purchased a challenge even though I had completed all the first ones given to me that day. Is THAT a bug? Should someone take one of my challenges away? (I don't really care if they do, but am curious now).
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
Oh and somewhere up there someone said you couldn't purchase something unless you had at least one challenge not completed (or failed). I'm fairly certain I've purchased a challenge even though I had completed all the first ones given to me that day. Is THAT a bug? Should someone take one of my challenges away? (I don't really care if they do, but am curious now).


It's the other way around. You can't purchase a new one if you have more than one still Incomplete. So if you have two that won't be scored until midnight, you can't buy any more.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 18 2012 09:05 PM

ah, thanks : )
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 04:06 AM

Originally Posted By: gracie3
Play a new quiz within 20 minutes of it coming online.....it's been hours and hours since one has been on....this challenge is ridiculous.


Morally speaking, how do I stand if, as an Editor, I get this tricky challenge one day, and then put a quiz online. Should I then play that quiz, knowing it is there, and win the challenge? tongue

By putting the quiz online, I'd be doing everyone a favour (especially if I do it at a time when there hasn't been a new one for hours and hours) but should I take advantage of it myself?

What would you do? wink
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 04:41 AM

I was under the impression that editors couldn't play quizzes they put online within 20 minutes. Am I wrong?
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 04:42 AM

Originally Posted By: stedman


Morally speaking, how do I stand if, as an Editor, I get this tricky challenge one day, and then put a quiz online. Should I then play that quiz, knowing it is there, and win the challenge? tongue

By putting the quiz online, I'd be doing everyone a favour (especially if I do it at a time when there hasn't been a new one for hours and hours) but should I take advantage of it myself?

What would you do? wink



As another Editor, I would not go near it. smile I make it a point of not playing any quiz that I have put online for several months after the event.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 04:43 AM

I try never to play quizzes I have edited for at least a week - playing it when I have just seen the answers seems like cheating. wink

My problem with the challenge and the demands for a constant flow of new quizzes is that sometimes I can edit half a dozen quizzes without finding one that is ready to go online. I don't want to place a quiz that isn't really up to our standards online, yet also feel guilty about possibly depriving players of a chance to achieve their challenge. On a bad day, I can edit for a two-hour stretch without putting anything online. frown
Posted by: Tizzabelle

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 05:41 AM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
My problem with the challenge and the demands for a constant flow of new quizzes is that sometimes I can edit half a dozen quizzes without finding one that is ready to go online. I don't want to place a quiz that isn't really up to our standards online, yet also feel guilty about possibly depriving players of a chance to achieve their challenge. On a bad day, I can edit for a two-hour stretch without putting anything online. frown


The other day I went into the three categories I edit. There was one quiz between the three, and that quiz already had an editor working on it. We'd love to churn out quizzes at a schedule to suit everyone but it's really not feasible. I suppose the irregularity of it is part of the challenge. If a quiz went online every two hours on the dot there wouldn't be a challenge. smile

As for playing a quiz I'd just put online, it wouldn't feel right. The thought of letting certain people know that I'd just put a quiz online flashed through my head but I quickly dismissed the idea. I'd feel bad every time I thought about it. It's only a game and there'll be more challenges tomorrow. smile
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 07:20 AM

Same here, on the day I had that "play a new quiz within the first 20 minutes" challenge, for several hours I was the only one who'd put quizzes online, but I didn't use those ones to complete the challenge. Just wouldn't have felt right.

Quote:
I was under the impression that editors couldn't play quizzes they put online within 20 minutes. Am I wrong?


As far as I know, we CAN, same as any other player, but I would think most if not all of us don't.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 07:29 AM

Of course, ethically it would make sense not to play a quiz you had put on line.

But also remember that more than one person can play the quiz and receive the credits for it. I played a quiz after dsimpy had already "won the earlybird badge" on it but as I was still within the 20 minute deadline I got the credits for it, just not the badge.


Thanks swami, kaddarsgirl and flopsy. smile
I can't swear I was the first to get that badgelet though. I try not to peek too much at lists so that everything will be a surprise to me but I think I saw a "II" after one of the badges before mine. I may have been hallucinating as I am still quite traumatised, naturally.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 07:47 AM

Since there is no competition between players in the Challenges and in regards to having an insider info track on a new quiz coming online, it would seem no one is hurt by an editor playing it. The idea of knowing the answers is true but don't we all run into quizzes we know the answers to on our own every once in a while? Like Chavs stated, the quiz is still available for others to play which means the title of the player is not an issue. (That Earlybird badge is a different story and editors should be unable to play until that aspect of a newly launched quiz is past. IMHO)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Since there is no competition between players in the Challenges and in regards to having an insider info track on a new quiz coming online, it would seem no one is hurt by an editor playing it. The idea of knowing the answers is true but don't we all run into quizzes we know the answers to on our own every once in a while? Like Chavs stated, the quiz is still available for others to play which means the title of the player is not an issue. (That Earlybird badge is a different story and editors should be unable to play until that aspect of a newly launched quiz is past. IMHO)


The Daily Challenge, as I recall, can also be won with a score of 9, so it's quite possible for anyone to play it, win the challenge, and keep Early Bird free. Ethically speaking, though, I agree with the editors. I don't think they should be playing quizzes they themselves just put online.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 08:05 AM

It's true it doesn't ruin the chance for other players, but it seems a bit 'off' for me to be like, 'oh I have the challenge to play a new quiz in the first 20 minutes, I'll go grab a quiz, put it online and play it, and all done' whereas other players who have this challenge don't get to choose when a new quiz goes online. I can put one online at my convenience whereas others may have to wait for hours and that doesn't quite seem fair, does it?
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 09:25 AM

I'm another editor who wouldn't put a quiz online and play it immediately just so I could complete a challenge. I usually wait long enough to play a quiz that I've forgotten I put it online, let alone remembering answers.

I also won't be "guilted" into putting a quiz that isn't ready online, just to provide a quiz for players who have that challenge. If it isn't ready, it isn't ready.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 09:36 AM

Editors are free to play quizzes whenever they like, at their own discretion.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 09:55 AM

I view it kind of as a conscious decision. If an editor can play a quiz after putting it online and have a clean conscience about it, they can play it immediately. Most I've talked with, though, feel guilty doing that, and do not play those quizzes right away. It's all in how you feel about doing it, I guess.

I, for instance, would feel terrible playing after putting a quiz online (but I'm not an editor, so I play as many as I feel like). wink
Posted by: agony

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 11:49 AM

I don't know of a single editor who would play that quiz, even if it "technically" would count as fair play. We don't put our own quizzes online, either, even though we could.
Posted by: bitterlyold

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 19 2012 06:27 PM

After 30 pages of complaints?

My "easy challenge" is to challenge another player to come up with a quiz I title. That's easy enough. However, I am told I cannot do that unless I have authored 10 quizzes.

LOL. I have authored four and am working on my fifth (Evan Williams, thank you).

I don't think it will be "easy" to author 6 quizzes today. I do that at work, not at play.

I still love you, though.
Posted by: mikey40uf

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 20 2012 11:36 AM

It's not necessarily a complaint, but I was just awarded the "Ten in a Day" badgelet when I completed my ninth challenge today. My tenth is still on the board waiting for me to get to, and I will do it because I want the points.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 20 2012 11:37 AM

Ouch, sounds like a swaperoo. Although perhaps that challenge could be tweaked so that it isn't given to folks with less than 10.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 20 2012 12:10 PM

Just looked at the list of Flags completed and saw that Chavs had won both the Orange and the Double Orange flags, but only the double appears on his profile page...does this mean the badgelets evolve when you earn the Epics more than once...?
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 20 2012 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: bitterlyold
After 30 pages of complaints?

My "easy challenge" is to challenge another player to come up with a quiz I title. That's easy enough. However, I am told I cannot do that unless I have authored 10 quizzes.

LOL. I have authored four and am working on my fifth (Evan Williams, thank you).

I don't think it will be "easy" to author 6 quizzes today. I do that at work, not at play.

I still love you, though.


I've got this one today too. Sad face!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 20 2012 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: mikey40uf
It's not necessarily a complaint, but I was just awarded the "Ten in a Day" badgelet when I completed my ninth challenge today. My tenth is still on the board waiting for me to get to, and I will do it because I want the points.


Thanks, fixed.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 20 2012 05:54 PM

Originally Posted By: collybird
Originally Posted By: bitterlyold
After 30 pages of complaints?

My "easy challenge" is to challenge another player to come up with a quiz I title. That's easy enough. However, I am told I cannot do that unless I have authored 10 quizzes.

LOL. I have authored four and am working on my fifth (Evan Williams, thank you).

I don't think it will be "easy" to author 6 quizzes today. I do that at work, not at play.

I still love you, though.


I've got this one today too. Sad face!


Hmmm never thought about that minor issue! I'll disable this one from being issued to anyone else until I can think of a good fix.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 21 2012 12:04 PM

Whoosh! That is me streaking across Funtrivia to Queen's "Don't Stop Me Now" as I pick up the Ten in a Day badgelet and the Daily Adventurer badge simultaneously for coming 1st or 2nd in the hourly Obscurity quiz (Actually came 1st 15/15 in 275 so if I didn't already have the Obscurity badge it would have been 3 in 1). Wahoo! grin
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 21 2012 12:07 PM

Congratulations!

Now put your clothes back on, FT is a family-friendly site, no streaking allowed. wink
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 21 2012 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: flopsymopsy
Congratulations!

Now put your clothes back on, FT is a family-friendly site, no streaking allowed. wink


And you say that with your avatar! lol.
Posted by: collybird

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 21 2012 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
Whoosh! That is me streaking across Funtrivia to Queen's "Don't Stop Me Now" as I pick up the Ten in a Day badgelet and the Daily Adventurer badge simultaneously for coming 1st or 2nd in the hourly Obscurity quiz (Actually came 1st 15/15 in 275 so if I didn't already have the Obscurity badge it would have been 3 in 1). Wahoo! grin


Congrats Starlord! I got my 'Ten in a Day' badgelet today too.

I've been planning that today would be the day all week. My heart sank this morning when my Difficult challenge was to win a badge/badgelet because I have all of the easily obtainable ones. But I got there in the end and by winning 'Ten in a Day' also succeeded in my original 'Difficult' challenge.

FT team the Daily Challenges really are a stroke of genius. Enjoying them greatly. Thank you for all your efforts.

And now for the Epics...
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 21 2012 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: collybird
Congrats Starlord! I got my 'Ten in a Day' badgelet today too.

I've been planning that today would be the day all week. My heart sank this morning when my Difficult challenge was to win a badge/badgelet because I have all of the easily obtainable ones. But I got there in the end and by winning 'Ten in a Day' also succeeded in my original 'Difficult' challenge.

FT team the Daily Challenges really are a stroke of genius. Enjoying them greatly. Thank you for all your efforts.

And now for the Epics...


Congratulations collybird. Mutual backslapping going on here. smilee

My first difficult challenge after the normal three was to win any hourly quiz that was removed immediately using my gold member perk. I knew that was going to happen, just didn't expect to get the Obscurity challenge back a little later.
Posted by: ga_jam831

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 22 2012 01:33 PM

I have a medium challenge requiring me to complete a crossword puzzle. I am pretty sure I have all but the 3 of the answers. If I switch to easy mode, will it still count? The challenge does not specify if I have to play it in regular or easy mode. I would hate to lose the challenge by switching to easy mode as it took me forever to get the answers I have now.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 22 2012 01:39 PM

I believe if the challenge doesn't specify, then it will still count for you to complete it in Easy Mode. I did one early on, and am pretty sure I used Easy for it. Perhaps someone can definitively say.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 22 2012 02:01 PM

Yes, you can definitely use Easy Mode as long as the challenge does not specify that you have to use Hard Mode to complete it (only the Difficult challenge requires that you use a specific mode).
Posted by: MargW

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 22 2012 04:54 PM

A little bit of frustration. I got an epic challenge, part of which is to complete a crossword in difficult mode. OK - done, I think. But it won't submit, so in frustration, I switch to easy mode. It says that my answer to Hungarian sheepdog is not Puli but Pumi.

I have messaged the author to see if it is indeed an error in the puzzle or if there really is a Pumi sheepdog. If it is a puzzle error, is there anyway to get my credit?

The puzzle title is Flotsam and Jetsom

Thanks
Posted by: MargW

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 22 2012 05:00 PM

Sigh - just found out there is a Pumi dog - Oh well - there's an epic challenge gone. As Scarlett would say - tomorrow is another day.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 22 2012 05:02 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumi_(dog)

Seems to be a dog.

I've always wanted a Puli, it would be like having a snuffling floormop. wink
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 23 2012 05:58 AM

Are there any challenges related to the Monster Quiz or the two GM dailies (Pot of Gold and the World Quiz)?

I've been infested with Daily Game and Mind Melt challenges, and have gotten any challenges relating to Dailies.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 23 2012 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: George95
Are there any challenges related to the Monster Quiz or the two GM dailies (Pot of Gold and the World Quiz)?

I've been infested with Daily Game and Mind Melt challenges, and have gotten any challenges relating to Dailies.


None related to the Monster Quiz, I believe. Edit: Well, I haven't gotten it yet, nor tested it...

For the other two, you will come across some *extremely* difficult challenges that may contain PoG and the World. I don't recall them being used in challenges like the Daily Game or Mind Melt, score x number of questions correct or x points.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 23 2012 06:05 AM

I've been asked to play the Monster Quiz once.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 23 2012 06:45 AM

I've had to do the Monster Quiz twice.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 23 2012 08:02 AM

I know there is an Easy challenge, which is to simply play the game.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 24 2012 12:15 PM

I'd like to remind you all that this is a thread for technical bugs and questions about ambiguous challenges.

Please move discussion of stuff unrelated to bugs to a new thread.

Thanks
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 24 2012 02:24 PM

Good point. "10 in a day" discussion split to another thread.
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 24 2012 03:00 PM

I have a Medium quiz:

'Play 5 quizzes in sub-category War History'
I've played some and scored enough but not been given credit for them?

Great & Famous Military Leaders
Famous People who Spied on the Side
WWII Spying 123
WW2 Code Names
Make Do and Mend

Please help, thanks.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 24 2012 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Tekka
I have a Medium quiz:

'Play 5 quizzes in sub-category War History'
I've played some and scored enough but not been given credit for them?

Great & Famous Military Leaders
Famous People who Spied on the Side
WWII Spying 123
WW2 Code Names
Make Do and Mend

Please help, thanks.


Perhaps it only counts quizzes on the main "War History" page, and not in any of the further subcats. "Make Do and Mend" is technically in the "World War II" subcat of "War History".
Posted by: Tekka

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 24 2012 03:34 PM

Thanks Kaddarsgirl. I'll stay in main 'War History' - sub category choices were easier options for me, but I'll persevere:)


Yes, it worked by staying on 'War History' and not choosing any of the subcats shown.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 24 2012 04:13 PM

Post deleted. Sorry, Kaddarsgirl, for some reason I missed your reply.
Posted by: malik24

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 25 2012 04:00 PM

I just bought this Easy challenge:

You're in luck! Score doesn't matter. Simply play in the Bus Ride game today.
Not yet. Incomplete

However, I played it and do not have credit for the challenge. Any idea why? (I have to admit; I just guessed and got 7/15 right, but it did say score didn't matter.)
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 25 2012 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: malik24
I just bought this Easy challenge:

You're in luck! Score doesn't matter. Simply play in the Bus Ride game today.
Not yet. Incomplete

However, I played it and do not have credit for the challenge. Any idea why? (I have to admit; I just guessed and got 7/15 right, but it did say score didn't matter.)

Bug fixed.
Posted by: malik24

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 25 2012 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: malik24
I just bought this Easy challenge:

You're in luck! Score doesn't matter. Simply play in the Bus Ride game today.
Not yet. Incomplete

However, I played it and do not have credit for the challenge. Any idea why? (I have to admit; I just guessed and got 7/15 right, but it did say score didn't matter.)

Bug fixed.


Thanks.
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 25 2012 08:46 PM

Difficult: Rank in the top 3 (in your division) in one of your Global Challenge games today (when the set closes).

If someone playing Hardcore was third on the list but took more than 130 seconds or got less than 10 right would they still get credit for the challenge?
I'm looking at the Gymnastics category in today's Global. So far (as of 8:30pm EDT) in Division 8 the top two scorers took more than 130 seconds and the third highest has 8 correct. I'm seventh at this point so it's just a hypothetical question, but it would be nice to know in case this challenge comes up again.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 25 2012 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Julia103
Difficult: Rank in the top 3 (in your division) in one of your Global Challenge games today (when the set closes).

If someone playing Hardcore was third on the list but took more than 130 seconds or got less than 10 right would they still get credit for the challenge?
I'm looking at the Gymnastics category in today's Global. So far (as of 8:30pm EDT) in Division 8 the top two scorers took more than 130 seconds and the third highest has 8 correct. I'm seventh at this point so it's just a hypothetical question, but it would be nice to know in case this challenge comes up again.


I'm curious about this too. We never covered normal vs hardcore scoring when we were doing testing.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Oct 25 2012 11:43 PM

Here's a strange bug. Today my hard challeng is to score at least 8 questions correct in any quiz in 17 different categories. As I complete the challenge, it lists the successful category and gives a green checkmark.

Here's the weird part. For some reason, it lists Hobbies twice. It goes down Humanities, Geography, General, Entertainment, Hobbies, Music, Movies, and then (BOOM!) Hobbies again!

Hope you can fix this. Would prefer to win challenge honestly. :-)
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 26 2012 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Julia103
Difficult: Rank in the top 3 (in your division) in one of your Global Challenge games today (when the set closes).

If someone playing Hardcore was third on the list but took more than 130 seconds or got less than 10 right would they still get credit for the challenge?
I'm looking at the Gymnastics category in today's Global. So far (as of 8:30pm EDT) in Division 8 the top two scorers took more than 130 seconds and the third highest has 8 correct. I'm seventh at this point so it's just a hypothetical question, but it would be nice to know in case this challenge comes up again.


I'm pretty sure I got credit when I did this one. I finished top 3 but outside the 130 seconds. On points, you are still on top of the list, but your points wont count for your advancement if outside parameters of Hardcore, only daily challenge.

Please correct me someone if I am wrong smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 26 2012 12:27 AM

Even if you are outside the 10/130, if you are listed 3rd or better, you will get the credit. The same also works for the "score XXX in the GC today" challenges - evem a set that doesn't qualify for HC advancement still counts towards the challenge.
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 26 2012 04:31 AM

Thanks for the information smile
Posted by: stedman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 26 2012 12:38 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The same also works for the "score XXX in the GC today" challenges - evem a set that doesn't qualify for HC advancement still counts towards the challenge.


Thank goodness for that! I'd never have got to 13,494 today (for my Difficult Challenge) without playing "Impossible" twice and getting just enough points to scrape through.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Oct 26 2012 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Here's a strange bug. Today my hard challeng is to score at least 8 questions correct in any quiz in 17 different categories. As I complete the challenge, it lists the successful category and gives a green checkmark.

Here's the weird part. For some reason, it lists Hobbies twice. It goes down Humanities, Geography, General, Entertainment, Hobbies, Music, Movies, and then (BOOM!) Hobbies again!

Hope you can fix this. Would prefer to win challenge honestly. :-)


Thanks, minor issue fixed.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 04:06 AM

My Medium challenge today is: - Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them. Well I found one, played it got 1/10 and rated, but got no credit for it. There is nothing in the challenge saying the minimum number of questions you have to get correct.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 04:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
My Medium challenge today is: - Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them. Well I found one, played it got 1/10 and rated, but got no credit for it. There is nothing in the challenge saying the minimum number of questions you have to get correct.


You need to score at least 2/10 for your rating to count. Challenge or not, that's across the board so far as ratings are concerned.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 04:25 AM

I got the same challenge. smile

Mariamir is correct-- 2/10 (or 2/15, 2/20, etc.) is required to rate the quiz. This is done to avoid people purposely submitting without scoring, and trashing/inflating the ratings.
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 06:05 AM

Is this a challenge bug or not?

Quiz game mode doesn't load....
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 06:35 AM

It's back after re-booting.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 06:50 AM

Thanks for the information.
Posted by: Daddy19

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Oct 27 2012 12:06 PM

I don't find the Daily Challenge page very easy to find when I'm using my phone.

Would it be possible to include it under the "Games" tab as one of the daily games or is there somewhere more obvious that I'm missing?
Posted by: lorance79

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 28 2012 04:17 AM

Minor tweak suggestion for Expert nemesis challenge:

Instead of scoring the challenge at midnight, can it be scored at whichever of the following comes first:

* both players have exhausted their 4 Expert categories;
* at least one player has exhausted their 4 Expert categories and their best score has been beaten by the other player;
* midnight.

Sometimes the result is clear early in the day, so in these cases it would be great to finalise the challenge so there's not an "incomplete" against your name if you want to buy.

Cheers.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Oct 28 2012 04:43 AM

Hi. smile Just to let you know, page 28 of this thread also raises this suggestion. Current plans seem to be to keep the midnight scoring. pg 28 discussion: http://www.funtrivia.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/834808/28 - starts near the end at post number #832204
Posted by: cairnster

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:20 PM

I have a challenge-related but also general question..

When I was checking the brains list about 15 mins ago (2 am my time), it said that the final scores will be counted in "11 hours, 1 minute". I was a bit confused but considered that it maybe has to do with daylight savings or something. However, checked with a couple of daily games as well and it said "12 hours and 1 minute".
So until when will the overall daily scores be counted? Are brains scored an hour before the funtrivia day ends? Which time counts for the overall daily score? Thanks in advance...
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: cairnster
So until when will the overall daily scores be counted? Are brains scored an hour before the funtrivia day ends? Which time counts for the overall daily score? Thanks in advance...


Final scores for points-related challenges are set at 11:50 PM FT Time. The clock on the brains page is off by an hour, but it still scores at the correct time. I don't why the clock isn't synched with the rest of the site, but it does score when it's supposed to at 11:50 despite the clock discrepancy (scores don't reset when the Brains clock hits zero, but reset an hour afterward).
Posted by: cairnster

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:30 PM

Oh, thanks a lot for the clarification, I appreciate it!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Daddy19
I don't find the Daily Challenge page very easy to find when I'm using my phone.

Would it be possible to include it under the "Games" tab as one of the daily games or is there somewhere more obvious that I'm missing?

Added to Games menu.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 02:23 PM

Originally Posted By: cairnster
Oh, thanks a lot for the clarification, I appreciate it!


Removed the timer from that page. It is very old, from a time when we followed daylight savings.
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 05:24 PM

My diffucult challenge today is to play six consecutive 10 question quizzes and get at least 8/10.

I was at two, and played a Tough quiz, which has come up with a check mark in the list, but it still says I've only done two in a row.
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 05:29 PM

Ignore the above, solved my problem.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: Daddy19
I don't find the Daily Challenge page very easy to find when I'm using my phone.

Would it be possible to include it under the "Games" tab as one of the daily games or is there somewhere more obvious that I'm missing?

Added to Games menu.


Where is it? I don't see it here:
http://www.funtrivia.com/games.cfm

Interestingly, it lists the Great Quiz Race as a daily game. And New Question Game is still listed as hourly.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 07:15 PM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Where is it? I don't see it here:
http://www.funtrivia.com/games.cfm

Interestingly, it lists the Great Quiz Race as a daily game. And New Question Game is still listed as hourly.


That's weird. I see it right there in the first of the Daily games. Also, I can see it as the first on the "Games" drop down menu on Quizzyland, but not on the Forums side. confused
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
Originally Posted By: gracious1
Where is it? I don't see it here:
http://www.funtrivia.com/games.cfm

Interestingly, it lists the Great Quiz Race as a daily game. And New Question Game is still listed as hourly.


That's weird. I see it right there in the first of the Daily games. Also, I can see it as the first on the "Games" drop down menu on Quizzyland, but not on the Forums side. confused


Oh! Now it's there. That's strange. crazy

But... New Question Game is still misplaced in the "Hourly" section.

And the Great Race should probably be in "Other" rather than "Daily".

And, true, it's not on the dropdowns on the Forums side, unless I'm crazy again.

Could this be fixed, please?
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 07:46 PM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
But... New Question Game is still misplaced in the "Hourly" section.


But...it's not exactly daily, either. Wasn't/isn't it every 6 hours?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 07:56 PM

The New Question Game is now Daily. It used to run more often for a while, but not hourly. It was several times a day, for which there is no separate category.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 08:02 PM

Oh. So, just not updated.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Oct 29 2012 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
Originally Posted By: gracious1
But... New Question Game is still misplaced in the "Hourly" section.


But...it's not exactly daily, either. Wasn't/isn't it every 6 hours?


It is Daily. Once daily.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 30 2012 06:34 AM

Moved New Q game to Daily.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 30 2012 08:13 AM

My Easy challenge for the day was to play a Newest Mixed Quiz and score at least xxx points. I played all the current available ones in HTML mode. I then went back and saw no credit was given. A more careful reading of the requirements showed I'd needed to play the quiz in PLAY mode. Not wanting to wait several hours and trying to test the system, I went back and replayed (!) one of the ones I'd just played and so knew the answers to. It was no challenge at all, let alone Easy, to reach the required minimum score. Should this challenge be one of those you can't have played the quiz before type? Had I waited, new quizzes would certainly have been offered, still leaving me the challenge to complete.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 30 2012 08:29 AM

Very interesting, I'd always wondered about that. Usually, if I forget and okay in regular mode, I don't even think to then play in play mode. Never occurred to me to test that. Haha.

Nice catch, mehaul.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 30 2012 09:12 AM

I don't know if this type exists at more difficult levels of challenge but now we know the answers can be found and scores can be achieved by playing in HTML mode then switching to PLAY mode and taking the quiz a second time.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Oct 30 2012 12:50 PM

That may only be true for Quizbot quizzes, which are a compilation of questions, and not for player-written quizzes. Those challenges usually specify that you cannot have played the quiz within the past 30 days.
Posted by: demurechicky

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 31 2012 05:28 AM

Terry, many thanks for adding the 'foolproof' button to purchasing additional challenges! Very much appreciated smile
Posted by: sooz888

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 31 2012 07:58 AM

I tried the Ten in a Day badge today and ended up with 2 challenges which are not decided until midnight [FT time] and I am therefore effectively blocked from buying further challenges - stalemate - any ideas?

sooz888
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 31 2012 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By: sooz888
I tried the Ten in a Day badge today and ended up with 2 challenges which are not decided until midnight [FT time] and I am therefore effectively blocked from buying further challenges - stalemate - any ideas?

sooz888


As a Gold Member, do you still have that switch a challenge perk? I think you can switch one out if you do, unless it's an Epic, or challenge involving a partner.

Otherwise, hate to say this, but, tough luck. Try again some other time. :s
Posted by: sooz888

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 31 2012 02:43 PM

Thanks to Mariamir for that, but sadly, I'd already used my 'perk' and switched off the Difficult Challenge on the Crystal Ball. I knew from experience that my chances of winning that today were slim to none... at least it would have kept some hope alive. I'll save it next time.... maybe I was just unlucky?

sooz
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Oct 31 2012 03:56 PM

Hi sooz -- your situation is possible, but unlikely. Very unlucky!
Posted by: sooz888

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 04:27 AM

Thanks Terry, I guess I used up all my luck finding your excellent site! I'll try the 10 in a day again soon.

sooz
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 09:22 AM

Depending on how early (as in how many challenges you have) you got the challenge, it may not take long to regain the necessary credits. That is an advantage of being quickly (rather than lately) inelgible to get the minibadge.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 12:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Depending on how early (as in how many challenges you have) you got the challenge, it may not take long to regain the necessary credits. That is an advantage of being quickly (rather than lately) ineligible to get the minibadge.

However, you cannot make a purchase with two incomplete challenges, so if you have two that don't finish until the end of the day, and can't use your Gold Member perk to swap one of them, you have run out of luck.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 02:33 PM

I just want to clarify that I mean suppose you buy a challenge and that causes the number of "doesn't end until midnight" challenges to increase to 2. You also don't have your Gold Member swap. All you did was spend 9 credits, and to try again, all you have to do is regain those 9 credits. If that 2nd "doesn't end until midnight" challenge was Challenge #7, then you would have spent 54 credits (9+12+15+18), and you would have to spend more time gaining back those 54 credits.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
I just want to clarify that I mean suppose you buy a challenge and that causes the number of "doesn't end until midnight" challenges to increase to 2. You also don't have your Gold Member swap. All you did was spend 9 credits, and to try again, all you have to do is regain those 9 credits. If that 2nd "doesn't end until midnight" challenge was Challenge #7, then you would have spent 54 credits (9+12+15+18), and you would have to spend more time gaining back those 54 credits.

According to the FAQ page for Daily Challenges, "You can have only one unsolved challenge (failed or still in progress) in your list when you buy a challenge." This means that, no matter how many credits you have available, you cannot make any more purchases if there are still two incomplete ones that won't finish until the end of the day. You have run into a brick wall, and been extremely unlucky.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 06:35 PM

Yes, but I think what Buddy is saying is that if you get your second midnight challenge earlier, then you will have spent fewer credits in the attempt, and thus will have more available for the next attempt.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 01 2012 06:43 PM

Ah, I see. You're dead in the water that day, but won't have to wait long for your next attempt. And if you had waited until you had an ample cushion, you might even be able to try it the next day.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 02:11 AM

Quote:
You've found a box of old photographs. Score at least 7 answers correct in 4 of the following photo quizzes.


But...Two of them aren't old! I saw them go online not long ago! laugh
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 02:37 AM

They'll be old soon enough. laugh
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:07 AM

Re: "Difficult: How well can you string together successes? Play any five tough or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each."

I completed this after several attempts but I don't think I got 5-in-a-row on my last attempt. Don't know if you can check that?


May be a bug. Or may be my mind collapsing.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:14 AM

My Easy challenge was to find a quiz of 20 questions and score at least half right.
I know our team did a 25 question quiz two years ago and so retook that one. The challenge page didn't credit me with a completion. I could find no applicable blurb in the FAQs to explain why not. It leaves me with two(+) questions:
1) Doesn't a 25 question Quiz satisfy the requirement of a 20 q quiz or does it have to be a quiz with exactly 20 and that is why I wasn't credited? Or,
2) Since it was a team quiz, was I blocked somehow for it counting in the challenges even though my name's not in the title? Does the FAQ need to be updated to address the relevance of Team created quizzes? Can authors use their own quizzes to satisfy challenges?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:21 AM

Quote:
or does it have to be a quiz with exactly 20


Unless you scored below half, this is the only reason your challenge would not count. The challenge said to find a 20 question quiz and you didn't-- you took a 25 question quiz.

Quote:
Does the FAQ need to be updated to address the relevance of Team created quizzes?


No. There is absolutely no difference.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:53 AM

No difference from self-authored or from quizzes from other authors? I asked whether team quizzes fall into self or other and the reply is no difference? Does that mean they can be counted as both or neither?

On the first one, I thought 15 Qs were good in some cases that asked to get at least 7 correct answers but that most are done using the most prevalent 10Q quizzes. I seem to recall a 15 among a list of 10s in one of my previous challenges. That is what led me to believe a quiz having more Qs than called for was acceptable.

Put another way:
Had our Team quiz been of 20 Q length and I'd gotten them all correct, the challenge would have been satisfied?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 05:56 AM

Quote:
No difference from self autrhored or from quizzes from other authors?


I never responded to your question about self-authored quizzes. No-- you will not receive credit for your own quizzes.

You asked about team quizzes-- it being a team quiz has no bearing on whether or not you can complete a challenge with it. It is still a quiz. Even if you wrote one question in it or five or nine or however many, you can still play it and it will count provided, as I already said, you are not the author.

Quote:
I seem to recall a 15 among a list of 10s in one of my previous challenges.


It probably wasn't asking for the same thing as this challenge-- there are many different variations; some will give you quizzes to play and some will not.

Quote:
Had our Team quiz been of 20 Q length and I'd gotten them all correct, the challenge would have been satisfied?


As long as you weren't the author.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 06:54 AM

Thank you.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 07:32 AM

And, from your last query, authors cannot use their own quizzes to satisfy challenges. A team quiz led by someone else is fine, a team quiz led by themselves is registered as their own, and doesn't count.
Posted by: Daaanieeel

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 08:58 AM

This was one of my challenges today:
Quote:
Today you will be playing I'm the Expert! against another player. Whoever holds the highest score today in a single Who's the Expert hourly game at midnight will win this challenge. Only your first 4 plays of this game today will be considered for this challenge, so pick your attempts wisely!
I've played two Expert games and scored quite well in both, but for some reason neither have shown up. I did play them "today" as in "today in FT standard time", so that's not problem. However, I did play them both before checking my daily challenges, so would that have caused this?
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 11:42 AM

mehaul: Correct. It requires a quiz of exactly 20 questions be played.

Daniel: That challenge only counts plays after the challenge is issued.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 11:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Terry
That challenge only counts plays after the challenge is issued.


Is this a new development? When I tested it, it counted plays from before the challenge was issued...
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 12:19 PM

I think when we tested it, it did count old scores. Then it was changed to make it more fair, so players wouldn't have submitted four terrible scores randomly, get assigned the challenge, and wish they could pick and choose which ones to play. So it was not like that when we tested, but was changed fairly soon after going online. :P
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 02 2012 07:53 PM

Much obliged L_T and T (sounds like a communication company).
Posted by: mdurnanj

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 03 2012 06:59 AM

My Medium challenge says:
Play the Easy Game and score 10/10 within 35.0 seconds. Not beaten yet. Incomplete  

But I have succeeded; Piece of Cake shows 10 correct in 32.99 sec.

It looks like the challenge should be complete.
Posted by: mdurnanj

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 03 2012 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: mdurnanj
My Medium challenge says:
Play the Easy Game and score 10/10 within 35.0 seconds. Not beaten yet. Incomplete  

But I have succeeded; Piece of Cake shows 10 correct in 32.99 sec.

It looks like the challenge should be complete.



I played another game a couple of hours later and scored 10/10 in 28.5 sec. This time I was awarded the medium challenge. No idea why it didn't work earlier.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 04 2012 10:02 AM

Originally Posted By: sooz888
Thanks to Mariamir for that, but sadly, I'd already used my 'perk' and switched off the Difficult Challenge on the Crystal Ball. I knew from experience that my chances of winning that today were slim to none... at least it would have kept some hope alive. I'll save it next time.... maybe I was just unlucky?

sooz


This is why when I decided to do my quest for the 10 in a Day i chose a day just after I'd had Crystal Ball. Strategy in when to go for the badge plays a big part in winning it, making sure the challenges that you are bad appear in the day or two beforehand lessens the probability they'll pop up and destroy your challenge.
Posted by: George95

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 04 2012 07:23 PM

This isn't an actual bug, but it bugged me.

My medium challenge was to play New Questions and score 331 points. I scored 330. mad mad mad
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 04 2012 08:40 PM

That does bring up something interesting. My difficult challenge (or rather my bought difficult challenge) was to score at least 1428 points in today's The Daily Game - using the TIMED mode. If I was to get exactly 1428 points, would that count? I would assume yes, but I just want to make sure.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 04 2012 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
That does bring up something interesting. My difficult challenge (or rather my bought difficult challenge) was to score at least 1428 points in today's The Daily Game - using the TIMED mode. If I was to get exactly 1428 points, would that count? I would assume yes, but I just want to make sure.


Yes it counts anything above and including the number listed. It's the equivalent of the "greater than or equal to" in math.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 04 2012 10:23 PM

That's what I thought but I seem to recall it being mentioned somewhere (I think on the testing thread, but it might be here) that if you were at exactly 50% on a challenge that required you to be in the top 50% it wouldn't count (or maybe that's changed since then).
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 04 2012 10:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
That's what I thought but I seem to recall it being mentioned somewhere (I think on the testing thread, but it might be here) that if you were at exactly 50% on a challenge that required you to be in the top 50% it wouldn't count (or maybe that's changed since then).


The percentages are for a different type of challenge, and I do remember we had a discussion of something similar to that situation over in the testing thread. As I recall, though, the question was whether finishing, say, 8 out of 15, would count for the challenge, because it's the middle score, but it's technically not at the 50% mark...But it is definitely the case that, when a number is given as a target score (or target percentage) for a challenge, any score that is that number exactly or any number higher (or of a smaller/higher percentage) counts for a completion.
Posted by: CellarDoor

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 07:33 AM

My medium challenge is
Quote:
Play any four average, tough, or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.


So far, so good, but it's showing credit for this quiz, which has a difficulty rating of easy. It looks like either the text or the code to check difficulty rating needs some help. Not that I mind having credit...
Posted by: malik24

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 10:20 AM

Today I was asked to "Play top rated quiz X and get at least 7/10 questions correct."

It was ranked in the 90k range. In the nicest possible way, I don't think that counts as a top rated quiz. Just thought I'd mention incase the selection algorithm messed up or something. If it was intended, nevermind. smile
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
If I was to get exactly 1428 points, would that count? I would assume yes, but I just want to make sure.


Well, I just did it in the Impossible game, and I'm so so relieved! I can confirm it does count an exact score. smile
Posted by: faith177

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 07:24 PM

How do I find quizzes by specific authors?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 07:31 PM

Go to "My Profile". Below your avatar is a place to type in the name of anybody on FunTrivia. Scroll down until you see the list of their quizzes. There might be another way, but that is the only way I know of finding authors.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: faith177
How do I find quizzes by specific authors?


On the home page, in the center, you see 'New Quizzes'. There are several tabs. Click on the one at the far right, labeled 'Find'.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 08:04 PM

In the title bar drop down menu under Quizzes is an entry called "Search". A pop to the side menu then will provide input windows for Topic or Author to search on.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 08:07 PM

Alternatively you could go to their profile and scroll through their quiz list from there.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 05 2012 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Alternatively you could go to their profile and scroll through their quiz list from there.


Unless that author was someone like Kyle or Nightmare...then you could use a search engine like Google, I suppose.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 06 2012 09:43 AM

Most challenges asking for playing a quiz by a specific author, don't specify which one you should try out. So Mariamir, you won't have to resort to media outside of FunTrivia - unless you happen to play each and every new quiz by Kyle or by Nightmare as soon as it gets on line...
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 04:12 AM

Minor typographical issue...
Challenge text reads, "Participate in 6 different types of hourly games today, scoring at least 5 correct in each game. Quiz of the hour counts as one." The word "hour" should be capitalized. wink
Posted by: Aedan57

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 05:14 AM

Medium challenge I have today is to play 6 quizzes with 3 letters "R" in their title, scoring at least 5 correct. I did receive credit for 2 I've played however have played a few more with 3 r's, scored more than 5 correct, but am not beong credited.
They are not quizzes I've ever played before.
Thanks.
Nevermind, this time I really figured it out! Each quiz needs to be in a different sub-category, I was playing them all in Geography.
Sorry to have not noted the qualifier earlier..
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 06:03 AM

As an Easy Challenge today I had
Originally Posted By: challengebot
Score at least 6 questions correct in any Animals quiz.


Being aware of the situation mentioned just a few posts ago, that the challenge will be specific if a player authored quiz is the object of the challenge, I assumed that when it said ANY Animal quiz (note no size qualifier) that a Newest Quizbot assembled Animals Quiz would meet the stated requirement. I took the current Animal Mix Quiz and got 10/10 but no challenge credit.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 06:45 AM

Although the challenge could probably be less vague, it's referring to a quiz in the 'Animals' category-- the quizbot quizzes can not be found there so they will not count.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 07:51 AM

It should be clarified because it says any quiz, not any player authored quiz nor NOT any quizbot quiz. A quizbot quiz is a quiz and meets the definition of any. So many other ambiguous challenges have been cleared up to delineate the exact place to seek the challenge and this should be clarified too.
And less vague means still vague but not so much. This thread is for highlighting verbage that is vague and needs clarifying.
Posted by: dsimpy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 08:07 AM

Originally Posted By: CellarDoor
My medium challenge is
Quote:
Play any four average, tough, or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.


So far, so good, but it's showing credit for this quiz, which has a difficulty rating of easy. It looks like either the text or the code to check difficulty rating needs some help. Not that I mind having credit...


Here's what may be the reason. Back last month I posted here about playing a 'Tough' quiz required as part of my Daily Challenge. I scored 10/10 which immediately downrated it to 'Average' and so I didn't get the Daily Challenge credit. Terry tweaked the difficulty bands just a fraction after that to reduce the risk of it happening again.

He said:

"Wow, talk about unintended consequences

Ok, I've changed it to give difficulty ratings a bit of a wiggle room. So, if the difficulty rating is a LITTLE easier than what you're asked to do, it will still give you credit. That should fix that issue!"
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 10:00 AM

Originally Posted By: JanIQ
Most challenges asking for playing a quiz by a specific author, don't specify which one you should try out. So Mariamir, you won't have to resort to media outside of FunTrivia - unless you happen to play each and every new quiz by Kyle or by Nightmare as soon as it gets on line...


Anytime I've gotten a challenge to play a quiz by a specific author, it specified which one. For example, one of my Easy challenges was "Play a quiz authored by reeshy and score 4 questions correct".
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 10:29 AM

Doesn't the name reeshy act as a link to their profile page and quizzes in that case?
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 10:48 AM

I think that's what buddy was trying to say mehaul : )
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Anytime I've gotten a challenge to play a quiz by a specific author, it specified which one. For example, one of my Easy challenges was "Play a quiz authored by reeshy and score 4 questions correct".


Oh, gosh, that's exciting and unexpected. :P
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
As an Easy Challenge today I had
Originally Posted By: challengebot
Score at least 6 questions correct in any Animals quiz.


Being aware of the situation mentioned just a few posts ago, that the challenge will be specific if a player authored quiz is the object of the challenge, I assumed that when it said ANY Animal quiz (note no size qualifier) that a Newest Quizbot assembled Animals Quiz would meet the stated requirement. I took the current Animal Mix Quiz and got 10/10 but no challenge credit.


Mixed quizzes don't count they have to be authored by a single author.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 01:00 PM

Quote:
Mixed quizzes don't count they have to be authored by a single author.

Where does it say that in the challenge? It says ANY quiz period
No others use the term ANY that I have run into. Why fight this? All that needs to be done is to add verbage that the challenge is for player authored quizzes or that quizbot ones are inelligible just like has been done by Terry for other challenges. Mixed quizzes do count in some cases. This is, as I said vague language that needs to be clarified like the opening post of the thread requests reporting of.
The way the challenge reads now means that other Animal quizzes should qualify too, like the Animals category in the Global Challenge (Note, that's a mixed quiz)
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 01:40 PM

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Where does it say that in the challenge? It says ANY quiz period


It doesn't and it doesn't. It says "any quiz in the Animals category". As I've already said, those mixed quizzes can not specifically be found in the Animals category; this extends to the GC, or an all-Animals based Daily Quiz, or a Point Tree Animal quiz, or any other random Animals quizzes without a listing in our Animals directory. The Animals category can be found on the left sidebar at the top of the categories listing. The link is http://www.funtrivia.com/ql.cfm?cat=1

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No others use the term ANY that I have run into.


They're in there-- I got an any in my difficult challenge today.

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Why fight this?


We aren't? :s

When I recommended changing it you said that my verbage wasn't precise enough. I was merely telling you that what you were doing wouldn't count-- if you want to get credit for your challenge in the meantime, you'll need to follow the steps we've been listing.

Unless your challenges say otherwise, assume they're referring to the quizzes in the directory. They are the bulk of the site and should be a fall-back regardless.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 02:30 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Originally Posted By: challengebot
Score at least 6 questions correct in any Animals quiz.


I fail to see the word category in that challenge. And the issue was passed but brought up again by someone else. You both are wrong. It says

ANY ANIMAL QUIZ period

copied and pasted without change. The word Any neans quizbot, global, player author mixed and unmixed. ANY. The word Category is not used at all in the language of the challenge. Where did you come up with that?

AND. I had my challenge complete by going to an Animal quiz from elsewhere before I posted here. I didn't post to vent a feeling of being cheated. As my post says I followed the directions of the thread's first post and reported vague wording in a challenge. I just think the challenge needs to be reworded. I never saw any wording in your post sugesting any rewording. Please point that out to me so I can apologize for missing it.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 02:37 PM

I would argue that any quiz in the animals CATEGORY is considered a quiz, true...

But that anything in the global, as well as quizbot generated quizzes, are considered GAMES, not quizzes.

A quiz is a player-created 5, 10, 15, 20, or 25 question item that is categorized into a category and sub-category. A quiz will last forever, unless it needs to be taken offline to edit.

These others, however, do not last. They are temporary "games" to fill the void if no new "quizzes" have gone online. They will disappear in only a few hours, and never be seen again, making it a "game", and not so much a constant "quiz" that remains forever.

This would mean there is nothing wrong with the statement "any animals quiz", because, by definition, the quizzes are those in the animal category, and all others are not technically "quizzes".

But, perhaps, I'm dissecting this far beyond where it needs to be, but perhaps it has already been dissected too far.



In my opinion, anyway.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 02:51 PM

Mehaul, you're right-- it didn't say category.

Only trying to help you get your challenge point.

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The word Any neans quizbot, global, player author mixed and unmixed. ANY.


You're going to be disappointed when playing those and not getting the point then.

It's been more than just me saying that it has to be in the category to count in the meantime; Terry will fix your issue with the word 'any' later on and he'll either add a word to clarify it or he'll overhaul the entire thing to include mixed non-player-specific quizzes/GC/Point Tree/Expert categories/WTS Animals quizzes/anything else animals to make it work.

Until then, all we've been saying is despite what it says, this is how it works. Either you can view your playing the extra game as a time-sink or you can enjoy what you learned and carry on to the next possibility. You posted it here and it will be attended to (or not; I can't speak for anyone); there's no need to argue or yell about it.


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I never saw any wording in your post sugesting any rewording. Please point that out to me so I can apologize for missing it.


I said 'the challenge could be less vague'. You said 'And less vague means still vague but not so much. This thread is for highlighting verbage that is vague and needs clarifying.'

I took that to mean my suggestion was unacceptable.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 02:57 PM

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I had my challenge complete by going to an Animal quiz from elsewhere before I posted here.


Then why did you say 'I took the current Animal Mix Quiz and got 10/10 but no challenge credit.'? If you already had a quiz from elsewhere completed, it wouldn't have mattered-- you'd have gotten the point and the challenge wouldn't have registered any later quizzes.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
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I had my challenge complete by going to an Animal quiz from elsewhere before I posted here.


Then why did you say 'I took the current Animal Mix Quiz and got 10/10 but no challenge credit.'? If you already had a quiz from elsewhere completed, it wouldn't have mattered-- you'd have gotten the point and the challenge wouldn't have registered any later quizzes.


I think what mehaul meant was he took the quizbot quiz first, then when it didn't work went on to an Animal quiz from the Animal category. But since the quizbot's Animal quiz is a quiz about Animals, he came here to report that it didn't count. If I'm wrong do correct me, that's just my conclusion.

And while I think it's pretty clear that "Animal quiz" means "a quiz from the Animals category", the text could be revised to say so.
Posted by: guitargoddess

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 03:43 PM

My own Easy challenge today was:
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Score at least 8 questions correct in any Humanities quiz.


As mehaul says, the word 'category' is not in there, however the word 'Humanities' is actually a link to the Humanities subcategory where there are no mixed quizbot games to be found. I'm willing to bet that the challenge to play any Animals quiz also linked to the Animals subcat.

Is it possible to word this more specifically? Sure it is. But is it really all that confusingly vague? I don't think so, it takes you right to where you need to find a quiz to play.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 03:43 PM

When I saw Any quiz and left the challenge page the first animal quiz (sorry S_S that area is called quizzes. The Games area is below that on the Home Page) I saw was the Newest Mixed. I played it. Got no confirmation of challenge complete. Thought even though it doesn't say so it may mean not any but mean player authored quizzes. If it does I reminded myself to post that the language is confusing (since I wasted -in a way- time to take the other quiz). I went to the Animals category in the left hand column and chose one and got 10/10. Returning to the challenge page I saw I then had the challenge complete check mark. I left that page and came to "Bugs" thread to make my report. See, I couldn't have killed Miss Marple in the closet with a noodle. Am I free to go now? I know, I know don't leave town and all that and you may have further questions. I'm innocent I telz ya.

Thank you mariamir and GG for agreeing. I never scrolled over the word Animals to see if it was a link. Upon entering the Daily Challenge page I use my pointer to scroll down to read the challenges then move the pointer to the go back button. I just read and clicked my browser go back button. I agree that games and quizzes are confusing with three possible tests: games, mixed quizzes and single author quizzes. We need a third quizical name.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 03:48 PM

Whoa! Three simultaneous posts that go to another page...

Well, mehaul just confirmed what I thought...

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I'm willing to bet that the challenge to play any Animals quiz also linked to the Animals subcat.


For some reason, when a challenge sends someone to a game like WTE, it sometimes is linked, sometimes not. It's possible that the Animals was not. Although since the Humanities one was linked, most likely so was the Animals.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 03:50 PM

That makes a lot more sense now, mehaul. You're right, clicking on the "new quizzes" section will bring up the quizbot games as well. That is kind of odd, perhaps it's best to leave them out? After all, they aren't really "new" quizzes, as it appears, because they disappear. Perhaps there could be a tab for both "new quizzes" as well as a tab for "new quizbot quizzes"? Those quizbot quizzes can be nice to play every now and then, so I don't want to see them disappear, but perhaps placing them in their own section would be a good solution? All 20 categories can be represented, each with a little list of quizbot games underneath for players to enjoy.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 03:57 PM

The Animals category is linked, I know that for sure because today that was one of my challenges. I found the challenge easy to comprehend, I followed the link because I'm lazy, and hey, finished that challenge no problem at all.

I cannot believe how pedantic some people are, or how they persist with their one-track obsessions until they drive perfectly normal people insane, or why they're allowed to go on getting away with it, time after time in thread after thread. It's discussions like that one which make a lot of players avoid the forums - I'm pretty sure more people would contribute if it wasn't for the fact they risk getting caught up in an interminable circular argument over something entirely inconsequential.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 04:03 PM

I don't think the quizbot quizzes disappear. You just don't see them anymore. Each I believe is assigned a quiz record number and it is stored away but that is not a problem for this thread. If you needed to look at an old Newest mixed quiz and knew its number you could call it up by typing htpt//etc.etc./prg/#954137 or something like that. and presto, that quiz would come up even if it was run three months ago.
That is all beyond the scope of this thread which Terry has asked to be limited to the bugs and confusing bits.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 04:16 PM

No, I am almost certain they disappear after a time. They main purpose of a quizbot quiz is to fill in the void when no quizzes by players are going online (perhaps a dry spell, maybe editors are busy, etc). They DO disappear after a time, because they are designed this way. They are quiz-like in nature, but they aren't technically true quizzes, and will disappear...

But you're right, this is inconsequential to the issues at hand. This is a bug-reporting thread, so let's stop and just say this...


"To avoid confusion for many players, perhaps we can add a note saying "only quizzes in the main subcategories of (x category) count" or something along those lines."
Posted by: ASA

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 09:08 PM

For my challenge today I had to play 6 different category quizzes. I just chose them from the latest quiz mixes, and chose childrens to see if that worked, which it did, under the quiz game method and it worked. Then I tried literature under the HTML method scoring nine correct but this was not recognised on the challenge page, so I tried it again under the quiz game method, getting the same questions but this time getting ten correct. It then recognised this on the challenge page.


Edited to say I tried it again with science with the same result.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 10:33 PM

My medium challenge for today: Rank in the top 5 in your division in any hourly game.

I'm not complaining about the challenge at all, but this would only be a "medium" challenge for either "newbies" (and not necessarily that easy to get) or for the "phenoms" on this site lol. For a middle of the road player like me, who is either blessed or cursed with a few champion badges, my feeling is that this challenge should be in the "difficult" category.

No biggie either way, just an opinion.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
My medium challenge for today: Rank in the top 5 in your division in any hourly game.

I'm not complaining about the challenge at all, but this would only be a "medium" challenge for either "newbies" (and not necessarily that easy to get) or for the "phenoms" on this site lol. For a middle of the road player like me, who is either blessed or cursed with a few champion badges, my feeling is that this challenge should be in the "difficult" category.

No biggie either way, just an opinion.


What would you then make my Difficult Challenge for today: "Rank #1 in your division in any hourly game." ?

And I would consider myself an average player. I only have one monthly badge, Obscurity, but I can still manage a top 5 in other games as well. There are so many hourly games and categories that it is definitely a doable challenge to finish in the top 5.

My Difficult Challenge for today can't be bumped to Epic Level, and having top 5 and #1 as both being Difficult doesn't make sense. I think it is fine as it is, with a top 5 being a medium challenge.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 07 2012 11:23 PM

I'll take the high road and thank you for your opinion lol.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 08 2012 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
I only have one monthly badge, Obscurity, but I can still manage a top 5 in other games as well. There are so many hourly games and categories that it is definitely a doable challenge to finish in the top 5.


Not campaigning for a change of rating but just making a little point of order smile tongue wink...
Having monthly badges makes either challenge less doable (not more) because you're in a harder division. If it wasn't for my lack of a monthly badge in the mixed game, I might put this challenge in the difficult category because I can't physically get my mouse to click fast enough to get 10/10 in 13 seconds, nor can I read fast enough to get 15/15 word defintions right in 30 seconds.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 08 2012 08:52 AM

It often happens that the difficulties don't match up. Often the medium is harder than the difficult, in my opinion. It's just the luck of the draw, and I just treat it as the quirks of the game. But I can see why you view it as a difficult rather than medium! :P
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 08 2012 03:00 PM

Medium = rank #5
Difficult = ? ; #1?
Epic cannot be done by anyone


Epic could be #1
Difficult could be top 5
Medium could be top 10%
Easy is to play it

IMHO
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 08 2012 03:12 PM

Epics are meant to far more challenging than being first in your division in any hourly game. That is rightfully listed as difficult. Yes, there are some players who would think this is beyond difficult. However, we cannot tailor every single challenge to every single player (or I'd stop getting challenges to score 16 or 17 in daily game). We all have our Achilles' heel.

Being number 1 works for ANY hourly, so it's not too insanely difficult. If you happen to be in a champs division that is too tough, you can always try for a different hourly. Or do what I do if it's not winnable; keep trying and if you don't win oh well. Today it wants me to win Crystal Ball. I am sure I will not win this, but I'm ok with it. smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 08 2012 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
Medium = rank #5
Difficult = ? ; #1?
Epic cannot be done by anyone


Epic could be #1
Difficult could be top 5
Medium could be top 10%
Easy is to play it

IMHO


There is already an Epic in the series. And multiple people have won every single Epic, so clearly it's not impossible. I, personally, managed to earn the Epic several times in testing, as did salami_swami and our fellow testers. There is also a series of percentage-related challenges that follow a similar pattern to he place-related ones that have been brought up in this thread. I could get a #1 in Obscurity if I played it, and I have so some multiple times (many times I've won several times in the same day), and salami can win PoC multiple times. You just have to finds what works for you. And, as has been said over and over again in all of these challenge related threads, people have different strengths and weaknesses, what seems like a challenge to you is cake to someone else, and visa versa. Since people seem to be able to accomplish the Epic, which a lot harder than the Difficult, I think it's fine as it is. You're not supposed to be able to win every challenge. Terry mentioned in testing that many of the more difficult challenges are designed to be approx 50/50 in terms of win/lose statistics. If you're not fast enough, and don't even want to try, then you can always skip the challenge or swap it out.
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 10 2012 09:47 PM

My Easy challenge for today: "Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "Po"."

I played the quiz "Pot Pourri of European Countries" and was not awarded credit. This is the link: http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Geography/-Pot-Pourri-of-European-Countries-120600.html

Looking at the link, it seems the problem might be the initial "-", but that character is not displayed in the quiz title itself.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 10 2012 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: abechstein
My Easy challenge for today: "Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "Po"."

I played the quiz "Pot Pourri of European Countries" and was not awarded credit. This is the link: http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Geography/-Pot-Pourri-of-European-Countries-120600.html

Looking at the link, it seems the problem might be the initial "-", but that character is not displayed in the quiz title itself.


I went to the link you have provided, and that quiz should have counted since the first two characters of the title, as listed on the category page, are Po, and do not even include a quotation mark. There have been several problems with that challenge, and similar letters, but previously the issues mainly dealt with quizzes chosen that started with quotation marks, which the quiz you chose clearly lacks. Have you tried another quiz to complete the challenge, since there was an error the first time? The challenge, in general, through testing and through live play, seems to be very glitchy...
Posted by: abechstein

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 10 2012 10:33 PM

It wasn't too hard to find another quiz that qualified; I wasn't going to wait for Terry to try to fix this one. I would guess that the reason for glitches in challenges of this type is because they are exposing anomalies in the titles of quizzes (e.g., quotation marks and the odd en-dash in the title of the quiz I tried).
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 10 2012 10:57 PM

I just spent 17 hours on Quizzer II with a few breaks. Don't worry it isn't quite that bad, though it is pretty gruelling. I noticed that there is no credit in the number of badgelets for getting the second badge, I guess this applies to all second flag badglets, seems a shame considering the effort required that it only replaces the first one and doesn't also count in its own right.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 10 2012 11:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
I just spent 17 hours on Quizzer II with a few breaks. Don't worry it isn't quite that bad, though it is pretty gruelling. I noticed that there is no credit in the number of badgelets for getting the second badge, I guess this applies to all second flag badglets, seems a shame considering the effort required that it only replaces the first one and doesn't also count in its own right.


Do you get the bonus points associated with receiving a badgelet for the "Double Flag" series even though it only replaces the current badge you already have? I don't know anything about the double flags since we didn't get those in testing; they were a secret project.
Posted by: ASA

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 12:01 AM

I had a challenge today to score at least so many points for the difficult badge. I knew I was not going to make it as I only logged in about two hours before the end of the day, but when I went to check to see how far short I was about ten minutes before "midnight" I found that it has reset to zero and the only score I have from the day is the mindmelt that I had just completed.

I know I was still some 2000 points short, so there is no sour grapes involved.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 12:07 AM

The FT day actually ends ten minutes before midnight, when everything resets for the next day.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By: abechstein
My Easy challenge for today: "Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "Po"."

I played the quiz "Pot Pourri of European Countries" and was not awarded credit. This is the link: http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Geography/-Pot-Pourri-of-European-Countries-120600.html

Looking at the link, it seems the problem might be the initial "-", but that character is not displayed in the quiz title itself.


You found a funny one-- the title begins with a space (which is why there's a dash at the beginning of the quiz name in the URL). I've removed it so that the issue doesn't occur again but unfortunately I don't think it'll count for you.

The quiz would've counted had the author not put a space at the beginning of the name; sometimes it slips past.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 05:53 AM

I was hoping winning the double flag badgelet would add to the total of badgelets getting me nearer to the magic 100. wink
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 08:35 AM

Originally Posted By: ASA
I had a challenge today to score at least so many points for the difficult badge. I knew I was not going to make it as I only logged in about two hours before the end of the day, but when I went to check to see how far short I was about ten minutes before "midnight" I found that it has reset to zero and the only score I have from the day is the mindmelt that I had just completed.

I know I was still some 2000 points short, so there is no sour grapes involved.

Originally Posted By: reeshy
The FT day actually ends ten minutes before midnight, when everything resets for the next day.


It would be nice for the challenges that end at midnight (11:50 pm) if we could see the final results the next day. Especially for Nemesis - if I'm ahead when I go to bed but find the next morning that I didn't get the three points, I'd be curious how many points the other person got in the last few hours. Is there any way to see "yesterday's challenges"? (It sounds to me like that is what ASA was looking for.)
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 08:50 AM

I know that 'random' means just that, but I'm still waiting to see my first Epic, let alone get a Double Flag chance. Even doing the 'ten in a day' didn't produce one. Is there any sort of percentage, or have I just been unlucky? My guesstimate is that I've bought 25 - 30 challenges since the game started.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Julia103
Is there any way to see "yesterday's challenges"? (It sounds to me like that is what ASA was looking for.)


There's a link to yesterday's results right beside the FAQ, if that's what you want.

Not sure if this link will work, but

http://www.funtrivia.com/dchallenge/yesterday.cfm?override=2331887
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 09:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Mariamir
There's a link to yesterday's results right beside the FAQ, if that's what you want.

Not sure if this link will work, but

http://www.funtrivia.com/dchallenge/yesterday.cfm?override=2331887


Thank you! The link didn't work, but going back to my challenge page and looking for it did. I never noticed that - has it always been there?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 09:49 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
I know that 'random' means just that, but I'm still waiting to see my first Epic, let alone get a Double Flag chance. Even doing the 'ten in a day' didn't produce one. Is there any sort of percentage, or have I just been unlucky? My guesstimate is that I've bought 25 - 30 challenges since the game started.


Two things. Epics are intentionally chosen less by the random generator than the other challenges. Also, you have been unlucky. In testing, Epics showed up at varying times through the buying process. The first time I bought a challenge when we were testing real play I received and Epic, but others had to purchase 30 or more. Random is random.

Originally Posted By: Julia103
[quote=Mariamir]Thank you! The link didn't work, but going back to my challenge page and looking for it did. I never noticed that - has it always been there?


Yep, It has been there since the very beginning (since the beginning of testing actually).
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 01:42 PM

Well I've ;learnt a lesson today if you have to do the challege Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes of it going online, don't use the home page New Quiizes to learn when they have gone online as often they don't appear until after the twenty minutes is up. I was doing the "Australian" quiz yet the "I Spy something" quiz allegedly put on at the same time didn't appear until 21 minutes.
Posted by: agony

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 02:06 PM

Yes, you need to get to the quiz through the Buzz, not the Home Page. They will only appear on the Home Page before twenty minutes have passed if someone gets the Early Bird on them.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 02:21 PM

The point with the doubles is that they are completely optional. The requirements for them are set extremely high and we don't want any players to feel they *have* to get them. With the random assignment of epics, it can be many years until you even get a chance to try for all of them, much less complete them. We didn't want to add something like that to the list of things people feel they need to achieve for a "complete" set. On the other hand, the doubles give you something to shoot for if you receive a "wrong" epic (one you already won) while you chase the regular set of eight, so you don't actually feel like you received a completely wasted epic.

This is also why they're replacing the originals. If you get a double, you're getting a visual credit for a special achievement above and beyond the requirements, but they're not actually considered an extra badgelet, just a visual upgrade of the one you already won.

(This was indeed the secret project during testing by the way. Now that people know they're there, there's no reason to deny it.)
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 02:31 PM

Today's the perfect day to go for that Buzz one-- almost forty quizzes online within 24 hours.
Posted by: Aedan57

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 03:58 PM

Have a question about the easy challenge I have today. It's to ask a question on FT. Went to the link, read the rules, read the search results. I submitted a question that was not previously answered. My challenge was still incomplete. I then went thru the process two more times but still an incomplete.
I'm wondering if I need to wait until the moderator reviews the question(s) or if I should submit additional questions.
Once more my bad, found out what I was doing wrong, problem solved.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 11 2012 08:13 PM

Thank you for the explanation Wesley. As they say with Pokemon: Gotta collect them all!
Posted by: timence

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 12 2012 04:05 AM

This link appears to be incorrect (Easy category):

You're in luck! Score doesn't matter. Simply play in the <My Daily Quiz> game today.

It links to the home page instead of my daily. Thanks.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 12 2012 11:05 AM

Error with my Medium Challenge today:

"Play any three average, tough, or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 7 on each. You may play quizzes that you have not played in at least 30 days for this challenge."

It counted the same quiz twice. Granted, I played the quiz twice, so it didn't double count a single, but it should not have counted it the second time I played it. It might have something to do with the quiz being placed online today, or because I played it on two different devices (laptop and iPad), or some error with the challenge itself. I'm not going to play anymore quizzes for a while, so Terry, if you look at my challenge you should see the quiz counted twice with two little check marks.
Posted by: Matthew_07

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 12 2012 12:03 PM

Hm, not sure if this has been reported before.

This was my difficult challenge yesterday:

"Today you will be playing I'm the Expert! against another player. Whoever holds the highest score today in a single Who's the Expert hourly game at midnight will win this challenge. Only your first 4 plays of this game today will be considered for this challenge, so pick your attempts wisely! Your opponent for the day is player ___."

I played three games. The other player scored 0 points for his/her total points yesterday so I assume he/she did not log in and play.

The challenge was marked incomplete though. So is this a challenge where both players must play at least one game?
Posted by: AlexxSchneider

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 12 2012 03:31 PM

I thought you weren't assigned a player for that challenge until a logged-in person was matched to you, but I'm not sure. I seem to remember being told with that challenge to wait until my opponent was given to me for the day.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 12 2012 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: AlexxSchneider
I thought you weren't assigned a player for that challenge until a logged-in person was matched to you, but I'm not sure. I seem to remember being told with that challenge to wait until my opponent was given to me for the day.


I think Matthew intentionally left out the name. And it doesn't matter if you have a partner or not. If you're the only one assigned the challenge, you automatically win, or you should win the way the system is set up. So if Matthew was the only one to score he should have won the challenge and gotten the credits, regardless of if another player was not assigned, or if the assigned player completed zero games...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 12 2012 05:57 PM

Terry, Matthew's problem challenge is [c:2878,u:161704] - definitely looks like something worth investigating if the opponent hasn't played a last second game (unfortunately the yesterday display doesn't show the final result or opponent name)
Posted by: Matthew_07

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 02:25 AM

My opponent has replied me. He says he logged in at the last minute and played his first Expert game and scored 15/15, but his score was carried over into another day's score (since the daily score is calculated at 11.50pm FT time). Ah, mystery solved. smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 06:27 AM

Having reported my lack of Epic challenges, I've now had two in two days. Definitely worth waiting for, and I managed to achieve both, one relatively easily and the other via some hard work. I hope I don't have to wait too long for the next one to turn up.
Posted by: AlanHill2306

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 07:34 AM

I had accummulated more than enough credits so I decided to try for the 10 challenges in a day badge. One of my first 3 couldn't be decided until midnight so will remain incomplete until then. I bought some new challenges and things were going well until I got another challenge which can't be completed until a games closes. I then tried to buy a new challenge but it wouldn't let me as I have 2 incomplete challenges. I have 6 green ticks but are unable to progress! Why am I being stopped when I have enough credits to pay for new challenges? It doesn't seem right to me.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 07:57 AM

You are stumped because of the incomplete challenges. The only thing you can do is swap one of the incomplete challenges (a Gold Member perk) and hope you don't get another one that doesn't finish until midnight. It's one of those "luck of the draw" things. If you can't swap it out, then all you can do is save your credits and try again another day.
Posted by: AlanHill2306

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 09:25 AM

Thanks Flopsymopsy,
I really guessed it was a feature designed to frustrate! I have already used the gold member swap perk so as you say I'm stumped. Just need to save up enough to try again. The challenge notes make no direct mention of only being able to buy challenges if you only have one incomplete challenge.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 09:27 AM

Originally Posted By: AlanHill2306
Thanks Flopsymopsy,
I really guessed it was a feature designed to frustrate! I have already used the gold member swap perk so as you say I'm stumped. Just need to save up enough to try again. The challenge notes make no direct mention of only being able to buy challenges if you only have one incomplete challenge.


It's in there: http://www.funtrivia.com/faq.cfm?system=3#num220
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 01:05 PM

You were unlucky. I did 10 challenges on Saturday, and got none that finished at midnight, nor any difficult to achieve ones, like winning Crystal Ball, for example. I'd kept my swap, but didn't even have to use that. From memory, I think my purchases were two easy, three medium and two hard. I was fortunate, but it proves it can happen. I was actually hoping for an epic or two, as I'd had none up to that point.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 01:10 PM

I just had four Difficult. :s
Posted by: sue943

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 01:34 PM

Can I remind people NOT to change the topic title. I have now changed it back to the original.

Thank you.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 13 2012 02:52 PM

I had pretty much the same experience as rossian did, also on Saturday. No epics, nothing finishing at midnight (I made a point of choosing a day when my initial three didn't have one of those) and didn't need to use my swap out, even though I had it available. It's all luck of the draw, really, isn't it?
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: AlanHill2306
Thanks Flopsymopsy,
I really guessed it was a feature designed to frustrate! I have already used the gold member swap perk so as you say I'm stumped.


Although it wasn't your fault that you got 2 challenges that end at midnight, you should probably have made sure that you had kept your swap perk that week.

I don't think it was designed to frustrate - if you get 3 then it's quite unfair because you can only swap one out, but I think Terry said somewhere that he might get around to doing something to stop it eventually.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 10:55 AM

I got my ten a day yesterday. None finished at midnight, but I ended up getting five different Difficult challenges, one of which I had to swap out at the very beginning of the day.
I've used all my credits since day one and still haven't seen an Epic.

Sometimes you just get lucky. :p
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 06:04 PM

This is getting really frustrating!

My 'difficult' daily challenge today is to play a new quiz within 20 minutes of it coming on-line. So far today this has happened five or six times... I go to the homepage and see that I have missed a new quiz by, say, 3 minutes. I then go away from the homepage for a short while - 5 or 6 minutes maximum - and then, when I come back to the homepage another quiz has been placed on-line but the time says that it has been there for over 20 minutes!

How am I supposed to complete this part of the challenge? It's really putting me off now and I'm seriously considering not bothering with any of it!
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 06:12 PM

You have to go to the Buzz to see quizzes online in their first 20 minutes. They only appear on the homepage after the 20 minutes for the Early Bird badge have passed.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 06:51 PM

I'm not sure if this has been addressed earlier - sorry but didn't have the heart to go through 30+ pages of notes - yesterday had the Who's the Expert challenge. My opponent played one game with a score of 1456 early in the day which I matched during the last round of Expert before the challenges reset.

I seem to have won the challenge though which might be a little unfair as I would have expected the person who got the identical score first would have taken it. Or, perhaps we should have both succeeded in the challenge because it was a tie? Can anyone clarify please? Thanks!
Posted by: agony

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 07:11 PM

Terry, could the wording of the "play a new quiz" challenge be changed so that players know where to look for them?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 08:05 PM

You're going to need to keep checking The Buzz. The newly-online quizzes won't update on the main list until after the twenty minutes have passed. The only way to find them is as they appear on the Buzz listing.

http://www.funtrivia.com/thebuzz.cfm
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 10:16 PM

Part of the fascination of the daily challenges to me is being forced to explore aspects of the site I had never visited (or not for so long that I had forgotten about them). When it's not clear how to accomplish a particular challenge, that's when I can actually learn something new in the process.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 14 2012 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Barbarini
I'm not sure if this has been addressed earlier - sorry but didn't have the heart to go through 30+ pages of notes - yesterday had the Who's the Expert challenge. My opponent played one game with a score of 1456 early in the day which I matched during the last round of Expert before the challenges reset.

I seem to have won the challenge though which might be a little unfair as I would have expected the person who got the identical score first would have taken it. Or, perhaps we should have both succeeded in the challenge because it was a tie? Can anyone clarify please? Thanks!


In the event if ties, definitely in Nemesis and I assume in Expert as well, the winner is chosen randomly.
Posted by: Lottie1001

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 02:42 AM

One of my challenges today is to "end today as one of your team's heroes in the Team Hero game."

Please could someone tell me if that means five people in our (small) team have to play for the score to count.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 03:44 AM

No, you just have to be one of the top five. If you are worried about getting five scores for the team, that's an easy challenge! On my team, it's a really tough one.

It is only the Team vs Team game that awards no point unless a minimum of players participate.
Posted by: Lottie1001

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 03:50 AM

Thanks, looney.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 08:55 AM

Originally Posted By: kaddarsgirl
Originally Posted By: Barbarini
I'm not sure if this has been addressed earlier - sorry but didn't have the heart to go through 30+ pages of notes - yesterday had the Who's the Expert challenge. My opponent played one game with a score of 1456 early in the day which I matched during the last round of Expert before the challenges reset.

I seem to have won the challenge though which might be a little unfair as I would have expected the person who got the identical score first would have taken it. Or, perhaps we should have both succeeded in the challenge because it was a tie? Can anyone clarify please? Thanks!


In the event if ties, definitely in Nemesis and I assume in Expert as well, the winner is chosen randomly.


Perhaps Terry can clarify if you're not certain. It would be a quick fix to give it to the first one to achieve the score...it needn't be random as all the scores are logged. Since the majority of games are predicated on whoever gets the tie first, wins, it's much more fair.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 09:08 AM

I played the expert challenge recently where we both tied for score. I won it, and had played first. So together with your experience, it would seem the winner is picked at random.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 09:48 AM

If the challenge is to be the high scorer and there is a tie, doesn't that mean there was no high scorer and neither should be awarded a challenge complete?
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 10:15 AM

Quote:
If the challenge is to be the high scorer and there is a tie, doesn't that mean there was no high scorer and neither should be awarded a challenge complete?


All other games on the site reward it to the first to complete the task (except Knockout, where the win goes to the player listed first in the bracket). Should only encourage people to score higher; sometimes it's bad luck.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:09 AM

Originally Posted By: CellarDoor
My medium challenge is
Quote:
Play any four average, tough, or difficult 10-question player quizzes in a row, achieving scores of at least 8 on each.


So far, so good, but it's showing credit for this quiz, which has a difficulty rating of easy. It looks like either the text or the code to check difficulty rating needs some help. Not that I mind having credit...


Yes, that challenge has a little "wiggle room" on difficulty levels since it's possible your play of the quiz may change the difficulty level.

A little like Shroedinger's cat wink
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:12 AM

Originally Posted By: malik24
Today I was asked to "Play top rated quiz X and get at least 7/10 questions correct."

It was ranked in the 90k range. In the nicest possible way, I don't think that counts as a top rated quiz. Just thought I'd mention incase the selection algorithm messed up or something. If it was intended, nevermind. smile


Thanks, fixed.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:13 AM

Ties in the Crystal Ball are settled (random assignment) like how the outcome of this Nemisis or Expert challenge is being described (ties in KO are assigned by top seeding, which is not like this situation at all). I still see no rebuttal to the fact of no one being top scorer in the case of a tie being a fact of logic. Not all challenge attempts have to result in success (many challenges go unmet). Sometimes your best effort just isn't enough. Sometimes your best just makes you as good as and not better than your competition.
In testing you may have come to other conclusions but now that the system is out here to be played, some changes are inevitable in light of other opinions, some not, which is fair.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: guitargoddess
My own Easy challenge today was:
Quote:
Score at least 8 questions correct in any Humanities quiz.


As mehaul says, the word 'category' is not in there, however the word 'Humanities' is actually a link to the Humanities subcategory where there are no mixed quizbot games to be found. I'm willing to bet that the challenge to play any Animals quiz also linked to the Animals subcat.

Is it possible to word this more specifically? Sure it is. But is it really all that confusingly vague? I don't think so, it takes you right to where you need to find a quiz to play.


I agree. I don't understand mehaul's confusion on this one. The challenge has a LINK to where you're supposed to go to find your Animal quiz right in it.

I added the word "category" to the end of this challenge.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:25 AM

Originally Posted By: abechstein
My Easy challenge for today: "Find and play any quiz whose title starts with the letters "Po"."

I played the quiz "Pot Pourri of European Countries" and was not awarded credit. This is the link: http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Geography/-Pot-Pourri-of-European-Countries-120600.html

Looking at the link, it seems the problem might be the initial "-", but that character is not displayed in the quiz title itself.

Bug fixed. Leading spaces now ignored in quiz titles.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:29 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
I know that 'random' means just that, but I'm still waiting to see my first Epic, let alone get a Double Flag chance. Even doing the 'ten in a day' didn't produce one. Is there any sort of percentage, or have I just been unlucky? My guesstimate is that I've bought 25 - 30 challenges since the game started.

Unfortunately just unlucky. It's a total roll of the die.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
Well I've ;learnt a lesson today if you have to do the challege Play a new player-authored quiz within 20 minutes of it going online, don't use the home page New Quiizes to learn when they have gone online as often they don't appear until after the twenty minutes is up. I was doing the "Australian" quiz yet the "I Spy something" quiz allegedly put on at the same time didn't appear until 21 minutes.

Correct, parts of the homepage is updated only periodically -- the challenge provides a direct link to the "New quizzes" listing, which does update immediately.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The point with the doubles is that they are completely optional. The requirements for them are set extremely high and we don't want any players to feel they *have* to get them. With the random assignment of epics, it can be many years until you even get a chance to try for all of them, much less complete them. We didn't want to add something like that to the list of things people feel they need to achieve for a "complete" set. On the other hand, the doubles give you something to shoot for if you receive a "wrong" epic (one you already won) while you chase the regular set of eight, so you don't actually feel like you received a completely wasted epic.

This is also why they're replacing the originals. If you get a double, you're getting a visual credit for a special achievement above and beyond the requirements, but they're not actually considered an extra badgelet, just a visual upgrade of the one you already won.

(This was indeed the secret project during testing by the way. Now that people know they're there, there's no reason to deny it.)



Good explanation Wesley... mind adding that to the FAQ now that they're out of the bag?

I think it's important that people feel less than no pressure to complete those. They're designed over over-achievers smile Many of them are incredibly difficult.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:47 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
Having reported my lack of Epic challenges, I've now had two in two days. Definitely worth waiting for, and I managed to achieve both, one relatively easily and the other via some hard work. I hope I don't have to wait too long for the next one to turn up.

Glad to hear you had some better luck smile I guess statistically speaking, someone out there could play for the rest of their life and never get an epic!
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: agony
Terry, could the wording of the "play a new quiz" challenge be changed so that players know where to look for them?

Done. I would have thought that the link would have been enough, but apparently not. It is spelled out clearly now.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
No, you just have to be one of the top five. If you are worried about getting five scores for the team, that's an easy challenge! On my team, it's a really tough one.

It is only the Team vs Team game that awards no point unless a minimum of players participate.

Clarified in challenge text.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
If the challenge is to be the high scorer and there is a tie, doesn't that mean there was no high scorer and neither should be awarded a challenge complete?


Or both could win the challenge - a magnanimous gesture on the part of the quizmaster for the efforts we expend to play but I'm fine with either/or. The random thing doesn't seem quite as fair as it should. Terry? Your clarification would be much appreciated.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry

Good explanation Wesley... mind adding that to the FAQ now that they're out of the bag?

I think it's important that people feel less than no pressure to complete those. They're designed over over-achievers smile Many of them are incredibly difficult.


And added to the FAQ. That last question in the Epics section was always designed to hold that information once it becomes public - now it's in there in all its glory. No further mysteries...

...or are there?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 15 2012 08:44 PM

Since the cat is out of the bag, are double flags the absolute best or are there triple flags? I'm guessing there are no triple flags, since double flags are already above and beyond normal challenges and normal mini-badges. I just thought I'd ask.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 16 2012 11:36 AM

I have a guess as to a possible further mystery. :P
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 11:27 AM

I have a question regarding statistics. How about showing a statistics page for the Daily Challenge, showing the leaders of Daily Challenge completers, broken down by numbers of Easy, Medium, and Difficult, and Epic?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 11:35 AM

I stand corrected with my earlier statement. I just noticed that Matthew_07 won the Epic: Winner III mini-badge, so I guess that means there is no limit to the number of flags that can be won in a single epic.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 11:49 AM

Actually three is the limit. We couldn't fit four of them on a single badgelet smile
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 12:56 PM

Originally Posted By: eyhung
How about showing a statistics page for the Daily Challenge, showing the leaders of Daily Challenge completers, broken down by numbers of Easy, Medium, and Difficult, and Epic?


The Daily Challenge is designed to be a personal challenge. There in no pressure to perform in competition with other members. The opening blurb on the "Your Daily Challenges" page says it all:

Quote:
Welcome to FunTrivia Daily Challenges! Each day you will get 3 new challenges -- give them a shot if you want to challenge yourself.
Don't worry if you can't or don't want to complete all of them. Some are easy and some are designed to be incredibly difficult. Some will be in areas you are comfortable with, and some may be in areas you have no interest in.There's always tomorrow! If you encounter a challenge that appears to be broken or any other bug, please report it here.


If you want to experience the pressures or pleasures (take your pick) of using the challenges as a vehicle to satisfy the need to compete with others, try doing it among your teammates. Or challenge other teams to some sort of competition. But please don't drag the rest of us into it with a site sponsored list of accomplishments.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 01:09 PM

Quote:
I have a question regarding statistics. How about showing a statistics page for the Daily Challenge, showing the leaders of Daily Challenge completers, broken down by numbers of Easy, Medium, and Difficult, and Epic?


I'd like to see this as well (perhaps sorted by a cumulative total), but perhaps further down the line where there's been a more significant amount played.

Quote:
But please don't drag the rest of us into it with a site sponsored list of accomplishments.


No need to look at the page if you don't want to; it's only a competition if you make it that way.

I'm certainly not. I like to root for other players and see where I stand amongst them. It's not about beating them, it's about watching their successes.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
If you want to experience the pressures or pleasures (take your pick) of using the challenges as a vehicle to satisfy the need to compete with others, try doing it among your teammates. Or challenge other teams to some sort of competition. But please don't drag the rest of us into it with a site sponsored list of accomplishments.

The bus ride and monster quiz are two games that are not timed and can be viewed as pleasure rather than pressure. Those games also have some type of stats. If those games can have stats, I see no reason why Daily Challenges can't have some stats. (I also wouldn't be opposed to Quick Quiz or even My Daily Quiz to have stats, but since this discussion is on Daily Challenges, I'm limiting myself to just that.)
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Originally Posted By: mehaul
If you want to experience the pressures or pleasures (take your pick) of using the challenges as a vehicle to satisfy the need to compete with others, try doing it among your teammates. Or challenge other teams to some sort of competition. But please don't drag the rest of us into it with a site sponsored list of accomplishments.

The bus ride and monster quiz are two games that are not timed and can be viewed as pleasure rather than pressure. Those games also have some type of stats. If those games can have stats, I see no reason why Daily Challenges can't have some stats. (I also wouldn't be opposed to Quick Quiz or even My Daily Quiz to have stats, but since this discussion is on Daily Challenges, I'm limiting myself to just that.)


This is the third or fourth time this has been brought up. I doubt, based on previous discussions on this particular topic, that any kind of stats are going to be tracked for public viewing in the near future. If you want to see the discussions they're in one of both of the bugs/ideas threads. I can't look for them right now, but I can post links later when I get the chance to look.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 03:39 PM

http://www.funtrivia.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/829608/3

There's a link for people who use 30 posts/page settings...although the discussion wasn't exactly about a cumulative stats list there was a mention of it somewhere in there...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 05:36 PM

This is the "bugs and questions" thread, not the "discuss whether this post is in the correct place in this thread" thread.

The challenge ideas thread is for exactly that: ideas for new daily challenges. Not for general improvements to the system. Terry needs that thread easily legible and to the point when it comes to adding new challenges.

The bugs thread is primarily for reporting issues: any problems you may have with the daily challenges, whether they are caused by the system or simply something you don't understand.

Requesting a feature for the game is not really either of these two and would thus ideally be placed in a new thread although it is okay here especially if it's something quick and easily described.

Discussing whether a post is appropriate on this thread is however clearly not an appropriate discussion for this thread. If a post is inappropriate, a moderator, administrator or, in a pinch, another staff member with expertise in the thread subject will state so and then that's it.

Thanks to everyone here for following the above.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 09:00 PM

Thanks Wes. As for the request, it is not currently planned, and if I were to add it, it would likely be at least a year out, after everyone has done fretting about missing out on a challenge or two.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Barbarini
I'm not sure if this has been addressed earlier - sorry but didn't have the heart to go through 30+ pages of notes - yesterday had the Who's the Expert challenge. My opponent played one game with a score of 1456 early in the day which I matched during the last round of Expert before the challenges reset.

I seem to have won the challenge though which might be a little unfair as I would have expected the person who got the identical score first would have taken it. Or, perhaps we should have both succeeded in the challenge because it was a tie? Can anyone clarify please? Thanks!


Terry, I was hoping you (or Wes?) could respond to the note above which I posted several days ago. You have very courteously addressed several other issues which came after mine but perhaps you missed mine. At any rate, here it is again. Would appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Thank you.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 11:05 PM

Something to go along with the previous question:
Why is this a challenge that you must wait until midnight to complete? Why isn't it awarded after both players play 4 games each?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 11:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Something to go along with the previous question:
Why is this a challenge that you must wait until midnight to complete? Why isn't it awarded after both players play 4 games each?


It was said previously that it is intentionally set up to complete at midnight to avoid having one player essentially force the other to complete games early on so that further purchases could be made. It is more fair to both players to have it complete at midnight.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sat Nov 17 2012 11:58 PM

I must have missed that, or maybe it was the fact that I didn't understand the response. What exactly do you mean? How would it force the others to complete games early?
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 12:13 AM

Hypothetical:

Say that the challenge completes when both players finish 4 games. I'm going for the 10-in-a-Day and I've got 2 incomplete challenges, with more challenges left to buy to complete my 10. One of my incomplete challenges is Expert, with you as my partner, and the other I have already failed, even with my swap, meaning I must win Expert to continue my progress. I've completed my 4 games and now am stuck until you finish your 4. The point in having it complete at midnight is so that I, the player waiting on you to finish, doesn't pester you all day and try to guilt/force you into completing your 4 games, no matter the category, so that I can continue on my quest to get 10 challenges. It would not be fair to you in this situation. It would put unnecessary pressure on you to finish the challenge quickly, most likely with unfavorable categories. This case also brings up the possibility that if you don't play to complete the challenge, I might blame you for ruining my run, because you could have done something and didn't. This could cause me to send you nasty messages for messing up my run at the badgelet. All of that pressure and such is completely eliminated if the challenge completes at midnight. It would also be more fair to you, giving you the chance to play categories of your choosing to give you the best shot at winning the challenge for yourself.

Does that help at all?
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 01:49 AM

Good grief. I can honestly say THAT possible scenario has never entered my mind. If anyone's to blame it's usually just the three of us (me, myself and I) LOL.

I'm guessing (and he/she can correct me by all means) that what Buddy was trying to say is that (no matter WHAT time of day it was) if both parties had both played their (maximum of) four games, then, essentially the game is already over, even if there's still 11 hours to go til midnight FT time. It would also be over if one person had played all four, but hadn't managed to beat the other person's score, even if the other player had only played one game. So the challenge definitely "could" be awarded well before the witching hour. I'm assuming the code for such instances above wouldn't be too horrid to assemble, since you "automatically" get the "completed" checkmark for any of the matching scores in the Twins game AS SOON AS they occur.

Anyhoo, I'd also be interested in hearing the answer to Barbarini's question about the "tie going to the runner, or the one on base, or throw the dice".

Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Barbarini
Originally Posted By: Barbarini
I'm not sure if this has been addressed earlier - sorry but didn't have the heart to go through 30+ pages of notes - yesterday had the Who's the Expert challenge. My opponent played one game with a score of 1456 early in the day which I matched during the last round of Expert before the challenges reset.

I seem to have won the challenge though which might be a little unfair as I would have expected the person who got the identical score first would have taken it. Or, perhaps we should have both succeeded in the challenge because it was a tie? Can anyone clarify please? Thanks!


Terry, I was hoping you (or Wes?) could respond to the note above which I posted several days ago. You have very courteously addressed several other issues which came after mine but perhaps you missed mine. At any rate, here it is again. Would appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Thank you.


Dunno, I suspect it's random (i.e. whatever record the database picks out first). It's something that could be changed if needed.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:37 AM

I agree ties should have a consistent treatment. In Expert, I would let the second best score decide, in Nemesis either have both players win or give the win to the one listed second (i.e. who generated the challenge later) since they technically had slightly less time.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 05:45 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
I agree ties should have a consistent treatment. In Expert, I would let the second best score decide, in Nemesis either have both players win or give the win to the one listed second (i.e. who generated the challenge later) since they technically had slightly less time.


The latter seems slightly less fair than random, lol! "First come first served" seems more fitting than "last in, automatic win" if you want to remove the random. (First one there beat the other one to it, and last one there failed to beat the set score. ??)

Just a thought - if both players can win then it would pay to collude with your opponent to get the same score, thus turning it into a twin challenge instead of nemesis.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 05:51 AM

I like Wes's suggestion for WTE, with the next best score being the decider. I'm not sure about the other one. Because of geography, some players already have an advantage. In the UK, midnight on FT is 6 a.m. at present, so the score I have when I go to bed is the best I'm going to get. It sets a target for my nemesis to aim at. It's the reason I don't think I'll ever get Endurance - I had over 30K points one day last week and still failed.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 08:38 AM

Thank you all very much for your response and suggestions. How about we make it reeeallllly easy and just give it to the person who scores the tie first?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 09:51 AM

Normally first played is better, but in the case of Nemesis, the second player to grab the challenge has a (very minor) disadvantage in that he has a minute or two less during which he actually knows what he's playing for. So if I had to decide, I would side with the second to start the challenge in this particular case.

In Expert, second highest score is in my opinion the obvious tiebreaker (and would also make playing another game worth it even after a very good first one)
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 10:09 AM

But I think rossian's point is apt. Given that most players aren't playing on the site 20+ hours a day, or even 8 hours a day, it's not the person who starts earlier, but the person who finishes later who has the advantage.

I think the current implementation of breaking the tie randomly is fine. If I knew we were tied and my opponent had stopped scoring for the day (because maybe they are in a time zone when they are likely asleep), I would always answer a quick question to break the tie anyway. Why take a 50% shot when you can make it 100% with a few seconds of effort?
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 11:01 AM

There are four choices for an outcome in the event of a tie:
1- Neither Player A nor Player B wins
2- Both Player A and Player B are awarded a win
3- Player A wins for some reason that made him(er) designated as A
4- Player B wins for some reason that made him(er) designated as B

I think equal perormance should rule out options 3 and 4, leaving the choice to award to either both of them or neither of them. Whichever way is decided should be the most fair to both players and including both on the same side of the outcome would seem to be that fair decision.

Edit:
Since this (the Daily Challenge) isn't an interplayer competition, is there really a need to have a tie broken?
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 12:43 PM

Originally Posted By: mehaul
There are four choices for an outcome in the event of a tie:
1- Neither Player A nor Player B wins
2- Both Player A and Player B are awarded a win
3- Player A wins for some reason that made him(er) designated as A
4- Player B wins for some reason that made him(er) designated as B

I think equal perormance should rule out options 3 and 4, leaving the choice to award to either both of them or neither of them. Whichever way is decided should be the most fair to both players and including both on the same side of the outcome would seem to be that fair decision.

Edit:
Since this (the Daily Challenge) isn't an interplayer competition, is there really a need to have a tie broken?


Of course ties can sometimes need resolving. The Nemesis challenge compares the total scores of two players, the Expert challenge compares the best result in a row of four expert games between two players. So these two challenges, even being personal goals, need rules to see who is to prevail.
Posted by: joecali

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:11 PM

Hi.

I propose in the expert matchup end if a player complete the four attemps without beat the best-score's Nemesis.
Posted by: joecali

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:13 PM

I play with Daikenro, use my four attemps and I don't beat the best score of Dainkenro. It's nice close the challenge with any try the 10 in a day.
Posted by: Mandy2

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:24 PM

I just finished the 10 in a day challenge and "bought" another challenge with 33 points in search of an Epic challenge. The points were taken off but no challenge appeared!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:46 PM

I see 11 completed and 1 incomplete in your list as should be expected with this number, so I guess you bought a challenge whose requirements you had already met prior to buying which was instantly marked as complete - nothing left to do on that one!
Posted by: Mandy2

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 03:52 PM

Thanks -- so psyched about winning the challenge that I forgot to count!
Posted by: joecali

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 05:25 PM

A new badge proposal:

Complete 1095 daily challenges(3X 365 days).
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 10:46 PM

Both players completing the challenge upon a non-zero tie makes the most sense to me. It's a little more complicated in hourly games because of the way is processed, but challenges are relatively easy to fix tie-wise.

I'll eventually change it.

p.s. the reason that crystal ball only gives one winner was to prevent the problem of a word like "xylophone" giving a badge to 500 people in a single hour. I THINK it awards the win to the player guessing first, although I may be wrong.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 18 2012 11:46 PM

It's almost midnight, and so time is of the essence. Hope someone sees this in time.
My challenge to is take quizzes in 16 different categories and score at least 9.
I got 10/10 on a Geography quiz, but it is not showing up in the Daily Challenges. frown Why?? From what I can see, I complied with the Challenge!
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:07 AM

Did you have to play it in Quiz game mode or HTML Quiz mode, or was that not specified? I got caught out on that; played five in the wrong mode! smile
Posted by: ASA

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:17 AM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
It's almost midnight, and so time is of the essence. Hope someone sees this in time.
My challenge to is take quizzes in 16 different categories and score at least 9.
I got 10/10 on a Geography quiz, but it is not showing up in the Daily Challenges. frown Why?? From what I can see, I complied with the Challenge!


Scoring finishes at 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
p.s. the reason that crystal ball only gives one winner was to prevent the problem of a word like "xylophone" giving a badge to 500 people in a single hour. I THINK it awards the win to the player guessing first, although I may be wrong.


It is selected randomely from all those with a correct answer
Posted by: joecali

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:20 AM

You play the quiz in the last 30 days(including quiz of hour??), maybe this it's the reason.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:38 AM

Yeah, I am sure Crystal Ball is awarded randomly if the word is chosen more than once. I've won when not being first, and lost with my guess being first. It was decided to be random so players who could not play at :00 could still win if they guess at :44. smile
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 02:33 AM

Originally Posted By: ASA
Originally Posted By: gracious1
It's almost midnight, and so time is of the essence. Hope someone sees this in time.
My challenge to is take quizzes in 16 different categories and score at least 9.
I got 10/10 on a Geography quiz, but it is not showing up in the Daily Challenges. frown Why?? From what I can see, I complied with the Challenge!


Scoring finishes at 11:50 PM


I took the Geography quiz well before 11:50.

Also, it did not specify Quiz Mode, and it even said that I didn't have to limit myself to 10-question quizzes, IIRC.

I stopped taking quizzes after I found the fault because there wasn't time for me to complete the challenge.

However, I would like to know what went wrong so it doesn't happen to someone else (or to me again).

I had earlier taken another Geography quiz and scored a 4/10, which did show up as "not meeting requirements", but that shouldn't have prevented me from taking another Geography quiz.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 02:51 AM

Since you told me you took the Bus Ride as your Geography quiz, it may have been that you accidentally hit on the handful of quizzes in the Bus rotation that aren't actually Geography. The Bus Ride only requires the quiz to be about the country, but not necessarily in the geographic way. Without knowing what the country was, however, I can't crosscheck that.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 04:05 AM

But the thing is, the Bus Ride quiz didn't show up AT ALL in the Daily Challenge, in any category. I remember because I immediately checked the list after the I took the quiz, and I noted that the list had not changed. All the other quizzes I took, they were listed as I played them. I can't recall the name of the quiz, or even the country (isn't that funny?) but it was a Photo Quiz.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 04:10 AM

UPDATE: Got the quizzes --

1/17/12: Marshall Islands
"The Marshall Islands"
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Geography/The-Marshall-Islands-315173.html)

11/18/12: Azerbaijan "
Man, It's a Manat!"
http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/World/Man-Its-a-Manat-340111.html

So, you were right, Wes, the quiz was a World quiz! Ha! Is it possible to find out if it showed up in the running list? If it did, then sorry to have wasted time...
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:49 PM

Hopefully not giving anything away here. Could someone with the yellow Epic mini tell me what the small numbers are? I don't want to give any more information for those who don't know, so if you know, or need me to elaborate, please PM! I don't think it's too important, but I'm very curious!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:56 PM

I have the epic, but I can honestly say I have no clue what you are talking about. :P
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 12:57 PM

I'll PM you on the main site, haha!
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 01:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
Both players completing the challenge upon a non-zero tie makes the most sense to me. It's a little more complicated in hourly games because of the way is processed, but challenges are relatively easy to fix tie-wise.

I'll eventually change it.

p.s. the reason that crystal ball only gives one winner was to prevent the problem of a word like "xylophone" giving a badge to 500 people in a single hour. I THINK it awards the win to the player guessing first, although I may be wrong.




From other threads, I remember Crystal Ball winners are chosen randomly to avoid closing the game after just a few minutes, when the first correct guess has been made.
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 06:14 PM

Hi folks,
I have purchased some challenges today in an effort to earn 10 in a day, (second attempt) but two of them do not seem to have given me credit for earlier plays.

They are;

Play the Easy Game and score 10/10 within 35.0 seconds.

Yet earlier today I recorded the following score:
Hourly: Easy Game Animals Nov/19/12 3:23 PM 10 / 10 970 97 80 13 / 65

This was within the requirements and the FAQ states the system will take earlier plays into account.

I also was allocated the expert challenge best of 4 tries and had already played twice previously today with the following results but they to seem to have been ignored:

Hourly: Who's the Expert? Dog Breeds Nov/19/12 5:05 PM 14 / 15 1305 131 45 18 / 33
Hourly: Who's the Expert? Australia Nov/19/12 4:03 PM 13 / 15 1202 120 20 32 / 40

Did I misunderstand something?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 06:17 PM

For the expert one, Terry has explicitly stated that previous plays would not count to make the challenge not appear as an instant loss (in case you have already played 4 games in weak categories just for fun and/or practice).

As to the Easy Game one, Terry will have to answer this. [c:2369,u:195163]
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: reeshy
Hopefully not giving anything away here. Could someone with the yellow Epic mini tell me what the small numbers are? I don't want to give any more information for those who don't know, so if you know, or need me to elaborate, please PM! I don't think it's too important, but I'm very curious!


I noticed those when I got it today they appear to just be each one numbered if you looked carefully there was a 1 and a 2 and a 3 etc. but they were not in any obvious order.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 06:30 PM

That looks like some debug codes accidentally left in. You can ignore them.
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Mon Nov 19 2012 06:37 PM

Thanks, I think the way the expert one works is okay.

Although in the past there was one occasion the "yesterdays challenge results" reported it incomplete it did not show the scores myself or my nemesis scored and when I had last looked sometime not long before midnight (funtrivia time) I was in the lead. It would have been nice to see what the scores that counted were.

Thanks for you time.
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 20 2012 06:40 PM

I purchased a challenge and it stated to play a quiz by this author, Sprink1234. Yet when I went to search for their quizzes I received this message:
"User not found."
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 20 2012 06:44 PM

If you type the username into your profile, under your avatar where it says "Look up player", his profile appears with no problem.
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 20 2012 06:45 PM

ty, I appreciate the information. I tried looking him up in the find section of the quizzes.
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 20 2012 06:50 PM

I tried that under my profile and received this:
User not found.
However, I googled him or her, and then I received the info.
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 21 2012 01:01 AM

For my medium challenge, I was asked to score 851 in the Obscurity game today, which I did by scoring 12 in 198 seconds. After solving my Medium and Easy, I bought another challenge, which asked me to score 12 or better in the Obscurity game in 280 seconds. This challenge was marked as incomplete, even though I have already done so that day. I think the system should mark the challenge as complete if the current game (which had not yet scored for the hour) qualifies.
Posted by: Nammage

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 21 2012 06:34 PM

I think I posted this question in the other "Daily Challenge" topic, I didn't see this one, and didn't want to create a new topic.

What I asked was: Why does many of the challenges require "Flash"? I am on a phone, it doesn't have Flash, I have tried to download it with no success (even tried a few minutes ago), all I can play is HTML; why can't that be an option?

I couldn't do the "Easy" challenge today because it required Flash. So, I used 9 credits to get a new challenge and it was an Epic but it too requires Flash. So, I wasted 9 credits.

Why can't HTML be an option?

-Nam
Posted by: Nicott

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 22 2012 05:46 AM

I am not sure if I just don't understand but I have done 3 hobby quizzes on the Daily Challenge in Flash Mode but have not received any points. I clicked on the Hobbies choice in the Daily Challenge, so I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 22 2012 10:03 AM

Hi Nicott,

While we're waiting for someone with technical powers who might be able to answer you properly :), you could copy and paste your challenge to here, and say which quizzes you played, maybe one of us fellow players might spot what's happened.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 22 2012 10:24 AM

Nam, the idea with the Quiz Mode is to make you earn a certain number of points. The other modes aren't set up to count that way and it would probably be impractical to try to reengineer them.

Edited to say that...well, I'm not sure what I was going to say. Is Quiz mode done in Flash also?
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 22 2012 10:38 AM

CmdrK beat me to it. But perhaps it's worth saying that some of the challenges specify what mode you have to use to complete the quiz - so if it says "in Quiz mode" then the Flash and HTML modes won't get you any points, if it says HTML mode then you have to use that one, etc. And maybe it's worth adding, Flash mode and Quiz mode are not the same - they may look the same when you're doing the quiz but they don't score in the same way.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 22 2012 01:54 PM

Quiz Mode requires Flash.
Flash Mode (a/k/a Interactive) requires Flash.

Not sure why on the quiz pages Terry uses the nomenclature "Flash" quiz since both use Flash. When you make a quiz, the second "flash" mode is called "Interactive". It would be less confusing I think to use that designation on the quiz pages.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 23 2012 07:01 AM

I think the least confusing wording might be "quiz mode timed/untimed" as that's the main difference that I can see.

On a separate note, I received this as a Medium challenge today:

Quote:
Play our Quick Quiz and bank at least 20 correct questions.
* Remember to convert your correct answers to points within the quick quiz game to get credit here!


I know difficulty differs within each challenge but I wonder if this one is more suitable as an Easy challenge?

There's no way to fail is there? There's no limit to how many questions you can get wrong after all. Just a thought.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 23 2012 08:03 AM

My difficult challenge today is to bank 57 correct questions in Quick Quiz. It may be impossible to fail but I suspect I'll be a bit fatigued by the time I'm done. But there's nothing wrong with a less-difficult difficult challenge from time to time.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 23 2012 08:08 AM

Getting 57 correct at a rate of 60% is like playing ten Mixed 10Q quizzes - many of the difficult challenges ask for more.
Posted by: AlexxSchneider

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Fri Nov 23 2012 07:52 PM

That's true, but then there are easier and harder Difficult challenges, I find, anyway. They can't all be the same difficulty level, in the end. There are some challenges I find don't correspond exactly to their ascribed difficulty level, but then that's me, I guess.
Posted by: habitsowner

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 12:43 PM

I don't know if this is a "bug" or not, but I just went for a new challenge and got one that says:

"Time to be creative. Come up with 2 trivia questions to add to our pool in 2 different categories."

I'd be delighted to since I have a good 200 to add, but...I already have my five (5)in the queue. And yes, they are in 2 different categories. One can be deleted since the editor thought we should wait on that one. But even if that's done, that still leaves me with 4 questions in the queue and I can't put more than 5 in. THUS, I cannot do this Challenge, not because I can't or don't want to, but because THE QUEUE IS FULL,

That's really not fair. I've "spent" hard-fought for points and now, because I was good enough to complete 5 QQ, I can't complete my Challenge. And there's no way to get my points back, either.

If nothing else, the 5 questions I already have in the queue should be counted, or handled so I can get more questions in.

Lee
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 04:38 PM

You could always delete two, and keep one of them to submit again later.
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 04:43 PM

By 'in queue' do you mean awaiting editor review, awaiting fixes, or accepted and awaiting rating in the NQG, or, a combination of those statuses?
Posted by: habitsowner

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
You could always delete two, and keep one of them to submit again later.


I'd love to. I don't know how to delete them, though. I thought I clicked on everything on that page and nothing seemed to say "delete question waiting..." or equivalent. When I tried to click on a single question thinking maybe a right click might allow me to do so, that didn't work, either.

Admittedly, I'm no techno-wiz, but I don't see a way to delete the questions that are waiting to be looked at by the editors.

Could you tell me how, please?

Lee
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 05:57 PM

Quote:
By 'in queue' do you mean awaiting editor review, awaiting fixes, or accepted and awaiting rating in the NQG, or, a combination of those statuses?


Accepted and awaiting would have no bearing on the five total.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: habitsowner
Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
You could always delete two, and keep one of them to submit again later.


I'd love to. I don't know how to delete them, though. I thought I clicked on everything on that page and nothing seemed to say "delete question waiting..." or equivalent. When I tried to click on a single question thinking maybe a right click might allow me to do so, that didn't work, either.

Admittedly, I'm no techno-wiz, but I don't see a way to delete the questions that are waiting to be looked at by the editors.

Could you tell me how, please?

Lee

I don't know how to delete a question at any stage, as I have never tried. I thought you knew how to do it, since you suggested that you could delete one. Can you send corrections on them while they are in the queue? If so, you might try sending a correction asking that the question be deleted to free you up for another submission. But I don't know whether an editor would tend to the corrections queue any faster than the submitted queue, so it might not work, anyway. And you could find it getting deleted in two days' time, when it won't do you any good, anyway.
Posted by: habitsowner

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 06:34 PM

Mehaul,

I'm sorry that I didn't see your message or I would have answered. The answer is that they are in the queue awaiting editor review. Edited: Actually, three are awating editor review, one is waiting editor approval after an addition, and the 5th one is waiting editor deletion until a later date. BUT, that still shows 5 in the queue. And no, I don't know which two editors are involved. One, yes, but I can't remember who the other one was. That being the case, I don't want to bother the one I know because deleting just one still wouldn't do the job. I need 2 of the bloody things gone.

That'll teach me to be so studious about making certain that I have five questions in almost all the time!!!

Posted by: habitsowner

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 06:40 PM

No, Looney, I have no idea how to do it. And no, you can't make corrections on them until after they are rated and, I believe, actually played at least once.

I don't think it's possible to make a correction while they're awaiting editor review.

Thanks for the thought, anyway. I guess I'll just lose my nine points. That thought doesn't make me happy! Particularly since, for me, it's such an easy, fun, Challenge.

I'm hoping to get at least one epic challenge, but that wasn't it. It would have been a few more points so that perhaps I could have tried for one on Tuesday, though.

Oh well...maybe I'd better never have five questions in the queue again. I try to keep five in there at all times. This time it bit me in the ............well, it did!

Again, thanks for the suggestions.

Lee
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: habitsowner
No, Looney, I have no idea how to do it. And no, you can't make corrections on them until after they are rated and, I believe, actually played at least once.


Actually, you cannot make corrections while the question is waiting for editor approval. Once it is approved, however, you may make corrections, even before it is played.

On the Question Quest page, click on "My Contributions: All Accepted Submissions". Then scroll to the question you wish to edit. Click on "I see an error - submit correction...", and then make the correction.

Right now, I have questions that were approved a month ago, but still have not been played. While they waiting to be played, some I have corrected when I thought of a better way to phrase something, or in some cases I have tried to make the i.i. less wordy.
Posted by: habitsowner

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 09:39 PM

Gracious1,

Thank you for the primer on how to make corrections prior to the questions being played.

You've confirmed that there is no way to make corrections or to delete those questions that are waiting to be looked at by an editor. So, with that confirmation and the fact it's now bedtime, I'm going to call it good and wave good-bye to my 9 points. What a shame!

Lee
Posted by: ASA

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Sun Nov 25 2012 10:59 PM

My difficult item today was to obtain a funtrivia badge, and as this was the 20th difficult one, I required to get the 20-20-20 badge, I bought a new challenge, which fortunately was another difficult one where I had to play the quiz games in several subjects that I have no interest in. Therefore I just kept selecting quizzes and selecting option 1 in them all ( probably thus destroying the rating system). Anyway Ifinally amassed the required scores and got my badge.

The daily task screen though still showed that I had not completed the obtain a badge criteria. It did after I exited and refreshed the page.

Would it have been recognised had I just decided I had reached my target quiz totals and just logged out in relieve , from not having to do anymore enterainment, humantities or religious quizzes.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Tue Nov 27 2012 01:55 PM

I didn't know where to put this -


My difficult challenge was to: "Rank 1st or 2nd in your division in an hourly game of Who's the Expert?"

Somehow - miraculously - I came 2nd. But my challenge page didn't merely say "complete", it said: "Wow, you did it! Complete"



I just wanted to say what a nice touch that was, because "wow" was just what I was thinking, lol!
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 28 2012 02:38 PM

Hi,

Today I have a difficult daily challenge which is to set "my daily quiz" to difficult which I did but then I got one question marked as incorrect, but this question is flawed. I have sent the following correction notice disputing the answer.

{
Music : Name the Artist : Who sang the song?
Who sings 'Stay'?
Answer:[_________](new song)

This is the second question in "my daily quiz" - level set to difficult (to fulfil my daily challenge requirements. There are many correct answer to this question without any other information an would work better if it was a multiple-choice type question or something to narrow the possibilities to one only. I answered "Sugarland" who released "Stay" in 2007.
}

So will I still miss out on completing my challenge? eek
Posted by: Dave42007

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 28 2012 02:46 PM

Sorry, This was the answer supplied
{
Who sings 'Stay'?

Your Answer: Sugarland
The correct answer was Stephen Gately
}
Originally Posted By: Dave42007
Hi,

Today I have a difficult daily challenge which is to set "my daily quiz" to difficult which I did but then I got one question marked as incorrect, but this question is flawed. I have sent the following correction notice disputing the answer.

{
Music : Name the Artist : Who sang the song?
Who sings 'Stay'?
Answer:[_________](new song)

This is the second question in "my daily quiz" - level set to difficult (to fulfil my daily challenge requirements. There are many correct answer to this question without any other information an would work better if it was a multiple-choice type question or something to narrow the possibilities to one only. I answered "Sugarland" who released "Stay" in 2007.
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So will I still miss out on completing my challenge? eek
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Wed Nov 28 2012 04:00 PM

Unfortunately we can't reset the game for you. We can't retroactively adjust scores or award challenges if a question has an error - it's just something that happens every now and then. We're trying to keep these incidents rare with our various quality control mechanisms, but we can't completely exclude them. Sorry for that.

You could however use your GM swap to exchange the failed challenge for something that will then hopefully not present any issues.



Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 12:52 AM

My Medium challege today was "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them." Is this possible any more? So far the lowest rated quiz I've found has 66 ratings most are in three figures. Going to give this challenge a miss.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Starlord
My Medium challege today was "Find five quizzes, online for over a month, that have fewer than 50 ratings. Play and rate them." Is this possible any more? So far the lowest rated quiz I've found has 66 ratings most are in three figures. Going to give this challenge a miss.


Well, there are tons, for instance if you check authors' profiles. And when I look at my list of quizzes I see one, and I'm sure other authors have lots more...fewer than 50 is easier to find than 20-50 ratings, too.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 04:07 AM

Is there a similar challenge that asks for 50-100 ratings instead of under 50 or 20-50? If not, I'll suggest it in the appropriate thread.
Posted by: Starlord

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 04:41 AM

Ah just realised my problem, I was looking at the number of plays rather than ratings, that's the problem when you try to play when half asleep.
Posted by: pruittgolf

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 05:02 AM

My third challenge was to complete the easy game in 24 seconds or less. I just completed it at 16 seconds and was not given credit.
Posted by: pruittgolf

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 05:44 AM

I got credit on my second try. This is not the first time this has happened.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 06:07 AM

Just mentioning this in case it's a possible solution:

If I recall correctly, it doesn't give credit immediately. I think credit for a successful try is not given until the end of the gaming hour (in the Easy Game, that would be at 10.30/11.30/12.30 etc). Edit: I didn't recall correctly.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 09:09 AM

I think that is correct, too, Chavs.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 09:43 AM

When I get those Piece of Cake challenges, I get credit immediately. It's only when dealing with ranks that it waits until the end of the gaming hour.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 09:45 AM

It might be a stupid question, but are you sure you did actually get all 10 right in the first game? If you accidentally misclicked or answered one wrongly, it would obviously not trigger the challenge.

(I'm asking because I tend to make my most embarrassing misclicks in PoC as well - when you really, really need to be fast, such things do happen)
Posted by: ssabreman

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
When I get those Piece of Cake challenges, I get credit immediately. It's only when dealing with ranks that it waits until the end of the gaming hour.



Today my Medium challenge was to play the Piece of Cake and get xxx number of points. My Difficult challenge was to play the Easy game in under xx seconds. I played one game and fulfilled both requirements and got immediate credit for both. Does the Easy game use both names to increase the number of possible challenges? I lucked out today.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 09:55 AM

Oh, that's a good point, ssabreman. Same with a few other games, then, too, I would assume. The "Who's the Smartest" and "Hard" games also come to mind.


That's strange, though, I think my easy game challenges usually wait until the hour is up. But there are many different easy game challenges, maybe my mind is just being muddled.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 12:02 PM

Just checked the piece of cake code... it all looks correct to me.

Perhaps the player with the problem had some issue where the challenge page was cached and was displaying incomplete even though it was? Or something like that...
Posted by: superfan123

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 02:46 PM

Also, about the Piece of Cake, a week or two ago, I received a difficult challenge asking me to play Piece of Cake and score 10/10 under 40 seconds. Today, however, I have a challenge asking me to do the same thing, except it is medium difficulty. The only difference is that the medium one today says Easy Game instead of Piece of Cake.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Daily Challenge Bugs & Questions - Thu Nov 29 2012 02:48 PM