Ascension Quest

Posted by: gracious1

Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 04:14 AM

Thought I'd start a thread just for Ascension Quest queries & issues & feedback, so it doesn't get bogged down in the New Badge Additions thread.

This is really elaborate and a lot of fun. I can see this is going to take me a couple of years. This must have taken you months to compose, Wesley!!!

One question I have is that I thought we could go back and forth on paths, so I was checking out all the alternatives, but then I got stuck in one that I really didn't want to do. cry So I'm a little confused about that because I was really left with the impression that we could go down different paths and go back if we choose. confused
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 04:54 AM

Grace, in many cases, you can go back and forth freely, but not necessarily always. Some decisions just can't be undone.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 08:03 AM

This is true. I made a bad decision yesterday and am still feeling the pain. I suspect this will not be the only time that this happens on the journey.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 09:11 AM

If it's any consolation to you, you were not the only one. This particular bad decision is a very popular one with 33 players having taken it.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 09:29 AM

I thought it was crowded in this black hole!
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 09:33 AM

Is it the same dark pit I'm in? I almost reached the light switch earlier but then the power went off.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 09:35 AM

This latest pair of lucky pants aren't working either. There must be a manufacturing fault.
Posted by: shorthumbz

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 09:55 AM

Well, I'M certainly stuck and may be in this place until The Rapture. I regret that I EVER went for that Who am I? Monthly Badge ......... Headache .. Headache .. OWWWWW! .. Headache!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 10:06 AM

Oh, was that you Flopsy? I thought it was rats running around, but it was only a friendly rabbit.
Posted by: kevinatilusa

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 17 2013 11:53 PM

For the 20,000 points task, it might be nice to have a note that the change of the day is at 11:50 for this task's purposes, not midnight.

Just got myself reset at 19789 due to this.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 12:58 AM

I think I must be in the same place.

Someone could make a killing with selling underarm stuff in here
Posted by: Ghosttowner

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 02:02 AM

Shorthumbz, I feel your pain! Darn getting that Who Am I monthly badge! I think I will be stuck here forever. Haven't got that high of a score since I got the badge.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 02:47 AM

You may find the wait to be shorter than expected - did I mention targets tend to erode the longer you work on them? smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 02:59 AM

I'm currently sticking pins into a catlike effigy, having fallen into yet another carefully laid trap.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 04:01 AM

Trying to find all of them, eh? smile
Posted by: shorthumbz

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 04:12 AM

Well, thank the Trvia Gods for some small mercy. Still, it makes me feel not-quite-top-drawer not to get it on the first go.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 04:19 AM

It seems that way, Wes. My eagerness to progress has been overcoming my common sense so far. I must learn to stop and THINK, before making my choices.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 04:29 AM

I'm in a loop. Or is it a spiral? Did one task yesterday, get to the next task. Do that, then one option takes me back to the task I already did. If the second option doesn't work, there may be bloodshed. And given that I am more like the Rabbit of Caerbannog than that fluffy pink thing in my avatar, it won't be my blood!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 04:35 AM

Flopsy, I can't reproduce your message from your position and the game code. There should be no option that sends you backwards unless you actually used a "Go back" link on a portion you had already completed. Can you send me a PM with what you did?
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 05:10 AM

I'm keeping a tally at my number of failed attempts at getting past Obscurity - up to 25 (and still counting) ... can anyone beat that?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 05:24 AM

I'm only up to about 10, but expect it to grow. My first try only missed by 11 seconds, later attempts have been significantly worse. It's nice here in the Library, though. smile
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 05:26 AM

Luckily I got it second go

Wish I had not now
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 05:44 AM

Sent you a note, Wes. Hope it makes sense. smile
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 06:10 AM

Originally Posted By: pmarney
Luckily I got it second go

Wish I had not now

I've heard rumors that I should enjoy my time here, as it only gets worse.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 06:32 AM

Enjoy it while you can

Ignorance is bliss
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 06:40 AM

You're frightening me, folks.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 07:14 AM

Quote:
Wish I had not now.


This game is forcing me to reflect upon my poor scores in certain dailies I really don't like. It's unfortunate, but necessary.
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 07:30 AM

Originally Posted By: MikeMaster99
I'm keeping a tally at my number of failed attempts at getting past Obscurity - up to 25 (and still counting) ... can anyone beat that?


Hang in there! I just went to my history and counted it. Got it on my 27th try.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 08:44 AM

Am I the only one still stuck in the prologue from the first day? I feel so stupid. frown
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 09:35 AM

You're not the only one, gm. We may catch up later - or limp across the finish line months after the first group. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 10:55 AM

Current standings have three players in chapter 3, nine in chapter 2 and 28 in chapter 1. Everyone from 41st place onward is still in the prologue - so no one should worry about being behind. The road to Ascension is a long one!

Posted by: Christinap

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 11:33 AM

Still stuck on Obscurity. I've never made that sort of score on this game in my life. Still, the library is more comfortable than the nasty dark place.
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Current standings have three players in chapter 3, nine in chapter 2 and 28 in chapter 1. Everyone from 41st place onward is still in the prologue - so no one should worry about being behind. The road to Ascension is a long one!




Thanks so much for the update!
Posted by: shorthumbz

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 12:27 PM

Hang in there everybody: Wes is truly a benevolent Trivia God and as Greta Olesson (played by Ingrid Bergman) says in "Murder on the Orient Express," "All is for the best" !!!!
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 02:46 PM

Terry --

Instead of having Wes give manual updates, how about a page where you could see the chapter progress of all the players on the Quest? We can already manually reconstruct this info by going to the list of players who have the Questian badgelet and then clicking on each profile.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 03:27 PM

I've decided to save a lot of bother and have strapped a mattress to my back for the obvious waits that are going to occur. Despite looking like an overfed turtle, I feel sure this accessory will pay dividends in the future.
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 03:30 PM

Sounds like a good idea, I think I may well copy that. I shall equip myself with a flask of coffee, chocolate and a bottle or two of wine as well. Might as well make the waits comfy.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: golfmom08
Am I the only one still stuck in the prologue from the first day? I feel so stupid. frown

I'm still in the Prologue, too. I think I'll never get out. tongue
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Current standings have three players in chapter 3, nine in chapter 2 and 28 in chapter 1. Everyone from 41st place onward is still in the prologue - so no one should worry about being behind. The road to Ascension is a long one!


I have an idea. How about creating a link to a page with those stats? People can check on that and see how everyone is doing overall. I don't mean detailed stats, just what you said -- how many are in this or that chapter.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 03:44 PM

I am taking this from my game admin page by manually counting - nothing I could post. Terry would have to create a public summary of it.
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Christinap
Sounds like a good idea, I think I may well copy that. I shall equip myself with a flask of coffee, chocolate and a bottle or two of wine as well. Might as well make the waits comfy.



Careful of that wine, Chris. (You may discover why later.)
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 05:30 PM

Even with the gods being so kind as to lower the expectation, I'm not getting the questions I know the answers to!
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Dagny1
Originally Posted By: MikeMaster99
I'm keeping a tally at my number of failed attempts at getting past Obscurity - up to 25 (and still counting) ... can anyone beat that?


Hang in there! I just went to my history and counted it. Got it on my 27th try.


Thanks Dagny1! Perhaps your encouragment helped. I got through on the 28th attempt :-) Finally a set with lots of 'what is the middle name of?' and 'when was x born?' rather than 'which of the following very obscure lyrics is NOT in this very obscure song?'.

Onwards to what seems to be another headache according to some of the posts a little earlier...
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 08:51 PM

So glad you made it through the Swamp of Obscurity Mike. I hate seeing a grown man cry. grin
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 10:13 PM

Thanks Barbarini - the upside is that I'm now 3rd in the Obscurity monthly standings :-)

So you heard my blubbering then? I thought it was confined to a 10km radius.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 18 2013 11:03 PM

Your wife rang me, Mike. Asked if I knew where she could find a used straight-jacket. wink
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 01:30 AM

I am assuming having looked through what I can the Unicorn and Dragon mini's are an either or like "The Great Race" Frog or Fish??????????????
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 01:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Christinap
Sounds like a good idea, I think I may well copy that. I shall equip myself with a flask of coffee, chocolate and a bottle or two of wine as well. Might as well make the waits comfy.


Thanks for your support; I shall always wear it, even if it does chafe a little.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 02:32 AM

At last I've avoided Wes's snares and made my way out of the Prologue. I'm becoming paranoid, though, reading every instruction a dozen times to see if I can detect any horrid hidden meaning.

Surdoux, may I suggest Vaseline?
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 04:03 AM

I print every screen. By the time I have finished, I should have the makings of a decent-sized novel.
Posted by: daBomb619

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 04:21 AM

I have a seriously annoying problem to deal with.

I arrived at a particular place where I was told to score 1400 in the Pot of Gold game. So I did (AFTER I arrived at the place, as instructed). I scored 1818, well over the required amount. However, it still says I haven't done it. I'm afraid to leave this place to try a different task, lest I have to do it AGAIN. Can someone fix this?
Posted by: Mink

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 04:27 AM

I got past obscure/impossible by sheer slogwork but now can't get the score on Heroes that I need - missed it by 1 yesterday and today (US government?? I'm British for goodness sake so think scoring 12/15 is pretty good!).
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 04:44 AM

daBomb - my mistake. I had the wrong game number in there.

Completing the stage will not send you anywhere special, just give you some important information. If you can see it now, it's all good, otherwise check your forum PM - I've pasted the completion text to you there.
Posted by: daBomb619

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 04:45 AM

Thank you, Wes! You're a lifesaver! smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 04:51 AM

One can proofread code for almost a month and run automated tests as much as one wants - there will always be one that slips through. Thanks for the report smile
Posted by: Julia103

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 07:13 AM

Last night I got to a point where I needed to play a specific daily game and get a certain score. I had played the game earlier in the day and reached that score, but it didn't count because when I played it I hadn't yet reached the page in Ascension asking for it. So this morning I went back, played the game, exceeded the score and moved on. Two steps later I was at a point where the first choice said to play the same game and get a certain score (which I had exceeded when playing earlier). But it didn't count because I had already played. So I had a choice of waiting until tomorrow or trying one of the other options. I chose another option, which had a different daily, but didn't meet the required score.

Two questions:
1) Did you mean to have the same game required so close together? (I understand about not playing anything before you have to because it might come up in AQ, but in this case I had already played it because it came up in AQ.)
2) Since I didn't meet the score in the second choice and will have to try again tomorrow, am I locked into that choice? Or would I be able to switch back to the first choice tomorrow?

Wes, if this doesn't make sense let me know and I will be more specific in a personal message.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 19 2013 12:28 PM

Julia:

1) In this case I meant it to be that way. This three-game gauntlet is meant to be solvable either by specializing in one particular game or by doing different things. The latter option is faster (since you don't have to wait for a reset), but may be more difficult for some.

2) If you have a link that allows you to try something else, you can freely do so even after making an attempt at a game. If not, you're locked in.
Posted by: daBomb619

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 12:21 AM

Wesley, please check your inbox. I PMed you about another problem I'm having on my quest.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 02:29 AM

Something is odd. I seem to be penalized for having a certain badge. Also, every choice I have made has forced me to turn back. It doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 03:52 AM

I don't see how anything near your current position in the game could produce anything like what you've described. Care to enlighten me in a PM?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 06:18 AM

After the first week of the game, the latest stats are:

1 player in chapter 5
none in chapter 4
6 in chapter 3
25 in chapter 2
49 in chapter 1
271+ in the prologue (I only counted those who have progressed beyond the prerequisite level check).
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 12:13 PM

Hi Wes,

Great job on this, really enjoying it. I've sent you a PM (on FT not on the forums) about something in Chapter 3. Thanks!
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 05:16 PM

Wes, are these stats, or some sort of progress numbers, available to we mere mortals?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 20 2013 11:29 PM

Ozzz, currently only when I post them. I'm taking them off the game admin page.
Posted by: tiddybitnibbly

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:26 AM

Originally Posted By: MikeMaster99
Originally Posted By: Dagny1
Originally Posted By: MikeMaster99
I'm keeping a tally at my number of failed attempts at getting past Obscurity - up to 25 (and still counting) ... can anyone beat that?


Hang in there! I just went to my history and counted it. Got it on my 27th try.


Thanks Dagny1! Perhaps your encouragment helped. I got through on the 28th attempt :-) Finally a set with lots of 'what is the middle name of?' and 'when was x born?' rather than 'which of the following very obscure lyrics is NOT in this very obscure song?'.

Onwards to what seems to be another headache according to some of the posts a little earlier...


I can beat that: I took 29 tries on Who's the Smartest, and then almost immediately sent myself back to the beginning of the Task. After two days, I still haven't even gotten back to that point. Going through the second time is just like the first, only with a constant feeling of bitter regret over a single disastrously poor decision.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:53 AM

Now that really is sneaky, Wes. You wouldn't like to share what the mistake was, Tiddy? No, of course you can't, but I made some poor choices right at the start and dread doing the same again now that I've managed to make some decent progress.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 04:37 AM

I think I made the same mistake, gone back to the start as well
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 04:43 AM

Maybe it's not a "mistake", maybe we are learning as we are supposed to. "Sitting quietly doing nothing, spring comes and the grass grows by itself." If anyone needs me I'll be in the padded cell.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 05:42 AM

I'm stuck with a horribly high target in one of my least favourite games. I may be here some time. It's lonely as I appear to be in solitary confinement.
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 07:27 AM

I'm scared about what Tiddy did now, as we're both hanging out in the same place.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 11:16 AM

The link Tiddly is referring to is for when you have made a really bad error in your strategy and want to do things in a different order (remember that later = harder!). Clicking it when you don't actually want to change strategies won't help you.

I'd also recommend to wait at least a day before abandoning and re-choosing at any stage of the game - that way you can check to see just how fast things do get easier with time.
Posted by: surdoux

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:10 PM

I'm sure that Wesley must have been a member of the Spanish Inquisition in a previous existence. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Posted by: shorthumbz

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The link Tiddly is referring to is for when you have made a really bad error in your strategy and want to do things in a different order (remember that later = harder!). Clicking it when you don't actually want to change strategies won't help you.

I'd also recommend to wait at least a day before abandoning and re-choosing at any stage of the game - that way you can check to see just how fast things do get easier with time.


What Wes said ... We know he should know because he's the Guardian ... I know he's right from my recent experience ... Remember this about patience: “Patience is not passive; on the contrary, it is active; it is concentrated strength” Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton
Posted by: kickaha49

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:16 PM

Wes,

I seem to be going in a circle. I cut off the second head of the hydra and moved on.

I completed other things and now I am back to the second head that I already cut off.

Is this a bug or am I missing something?

Thanks.

Take care and God Bless.

Steve
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:31 PM

Steve, I can't reproduce where you have been, only where you are right now - and that's indeed the second head.

Are "other things" things you did in the game or are they other things on FT?
Posted by: tiddybitnibbly

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:34 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The link Tiddly is referring to is for when you have made a really bad error in your strategy and want to do things in a different order (remember that later = harder!). Clicking it when you don't actually want to change strategies won't help you.

I'd also recommend to wait at least a day before abandoning and re-choosing at any stage of the game - that way you can check to see just how fast things do get easier with time.


That was what happened the first time. This one happened at the end of the next task after I had completed all of the difficult parts.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:34 PM

I'm definitely hoping for an easier target tomorrow. I have absolutely no chance of meeting the one set at present. I may have to wait for a week!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: tiddybitnibbly
That was what happened the first time. This one happened at the end of the next task after I had completed all of the difficult parts.


Oh I see... hopefully you now know what to do when you get back to that point.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:10 PM

Im not a big fan of a scoreboard, because it really is a play-at-your-own-pace game.

It really isn't supposed to be a race, and no one is supposed to "win" be getting to the end first. Perhaps adding a "hall of fame" for players who make it to the end would be a nice touch though.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:16 PM

Terry, it sure is nice to see who's made it to what level. Purely for the camaradarie of it. Nice to be able to cheer our teammates on at least. Not much different than checking profiles to see who's won flags on the daily challenges. Perhaps you'll rethink it?
Thank you Terry!
Posted by: kickaha49

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:27 PM

Wes,

I am sorry I was not clear my bad. I meant by "other things" that I followed other instructions given by the game such as qualifying score in the hard game and the word wizard.

Then the game sent me right back to the second head that I already cut off by scoring high enough in the "who am I"

I was at that area for three days before and my qualifying score was lowered twice before I was able to meet it finally. Now it is than ever and I have no chance of making it. Thanks.

Take care and God Bless.

Steve
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:38 PM

I like the play-at-your-own-pace policy on the scoreboard issue. Very much. And agree. It's a difficult game and it's easy to feel a bit stupid if you feel other people are racing ahead of you, in my case anyway.

What was nice, though, was an unnamed list of the numbers in each section - it cheered me up and made me feel I wasn't stupid, just normal.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:38 PM

For debug wes the logs show kickaha's path:

242 - 243 - 225 - 209 - 220 - 221 - 222 - 223 - 234 - 209 - 240 - 241
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: shorthumbz
... Remember this about patience: “Patience is not passive; on the contrary, it is active; it is concentrated strength” Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton



Thank you for that great quote. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 01:51 PM

No bug there - from this list of stages, he used the retreat option twice. 209 is the retreat. He played the first three heads, then got to Madness 4th, retreat. Start again down a different path, get to Gap 4th, retreat again.

Steve, if you want to, I can put you back on either of the 4th options (Madness or Gap) although I would recommend Madness since that was the one on which you already played the score currently causing you problems.
Posted by: kickaha49

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:35 PM

Wes,

Thanks! Do whatever you think is best. I just thought I should not have to repeat the second head.

Is it best to never retreat since that is what seems to have caused my problem?

Thanks again for your help!

Take care and God Bless.

Steve
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:41 PM

Steve, you're back at where you were before your first retreat. Retreating in this fight should only be done if you want to do it all over with a different order of heads.

You may have made a decision earlier that caused you to miss the information about how those heads work. (Going the harder way on one step will often give you valuable hints for later!)

Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:41 PM

Wes, it seems like many of us are repeating the sections because of choices made. Do you really want to be manually resetting everyone? Isn't that just a part of the challenge? I waited more than two days to get a Madness score and will now have to do it again. But, it was because I made a bad choice. I can live with that.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:45 PM

Bubbles, it seems that a huge lot of players are really struggling with the concept of the retreat. I'm really trying to figure out how to word that one better so it won't consistently be an issue. It's supposed to be a strategic option offered to allow players to fix mistakes, not to cause them. (If you have the same problem, I'll gladly put you back to your original place as well)
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:48 PM

Sounds like you could say it just like you basically just did. Warning, a retreat could cause the loss of previously surmounted tasks, or something like that.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:51 PM

New FAQ entry:

--------------------------------------------------------------------

I retreated and now I'm back to where I started - what's up?

Retreating is an option offered in some fights which will inevitably set you back to the very beginning of that fight even if it consists of multiple stages. This has the advantage that you can reconsider your play strategy and approach the fight entirely differently. Do it only if you feel you cannot win with your current strategy and want to start over!

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Is that clear to everyone now?
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 02:53 PM

That looks great. And reading that definitely would have changed my retreat decision, lol.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 03:01 PM

The problem was that a lot of people didn't realize just how far back a retreat would/could go and that can be rather frustrating. (Which I don't really want - the game should be challenging but fun. We want players to fight quizzes and scores, not misunderstandings).
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 03:04 PM

Ok, then I change my previous thoughts. Will you put me back, please?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 03:09 PM

PM me where you were (with as much info as you remember so I can verify your claim) - I don't have the data ready. Terry has just created a log facility, but it seems it only works forward from now.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 03:11 PM

Any others who need last minute pardons on an unintended retreat, please also PM me.
Posted by: kickaha49

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 03:13 PM

Wes,

Thanks very much! I have learned my lesson and will NOT retreat in the future.

Take care and God Bless.

Steve
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 10:29 PM

May I suggest that people be careful what they say. People who aren't in the Ascension Quest are reading this and they are getting insights and hints to the game that maybe they shouldn't have. After all, it is a game, and people are supposed to find out about these things for themselves.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 11:04 PM

The early players are working out the kinks. This thread is enormously helpful. We WANT it to help future players.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 21 2013 11:08 PM

Grace - if anything gets too spoilerish, it'll be edited out. In this case, there was no information leaked except that going back at a specific point could be devastating - and that NEEDS to be out there since about a third of players fell to a frustrating trap I never intended to be one.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 22 2013 12:25 AM

Thanks Wes, back to where I was and will be here for a while, so will get a brew on for everyone else that arrives and stays
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 22 2013 02:56 AM

The tip is simply if you don't want to see spoilers, don't come on the thread unless you have a question of your own to ask, I think.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 22 2013 03:28 AM

Nothing on this thread so far was really a spoiler or I would have taken it out. Anyone who masters the prologue and knows anything about the underlying storyline and Funtrivia could deduce the posted facts.

Now if some stuff from the higher chapters were to leak out, THAT would be gone very quickly smile
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 01:33 AM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
The early players are working out the kinks. This thread is enormously helpful. We WANT it to help future players.

I agree. I was just suggesting caution in our choice of words when we ask questions. wink
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 01:42 AM

Wes,
What are the latest stats?

Also, I have a question about chapter 2. Obviously there is strategy in choosing which option, and yet there doesn't seem to be much basis for making a decision, at least based on the myth that this story is based on, and the stuff that has happened on the Quest up to this point, unless I am completely misunderstanding the instructions.

Not meant to be a spoiler, just not sure if I missed something, or what?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 02:51 AM

There is a way to find this information in-game if you take the right decisions. If you miss it, you're down to trial and error.

You by the way don't need to know the specific myth the game is based on in detail to play well (although it can increase your enjoyment of the story). Some basic knowledge of ancient Greek legends might however sometimes help.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 02:54 AM

Stats:

Chapter 6 - 1
Chapter 5 - 1
Chapter 4 - 1
Chapter 3 - 15
Chapter 2 - 37
Chapter 1 - 72
Prologue - 245+
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 06:00 AM

I've got in such a muddle, I completely forget which game I was playing and adopted a strategy that was doomed to failure. There's always next time, I suppose!
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
There is a way to find this information in-game if you take the right decisions. If you miss it, you're down to trial and error.


Perhaps I made a wrong decision somewhere, then, because I am not sure on what basis I should be making a choice among the options.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 06:30 AM

In that case, you can only try your best guess.
Posted by: AlonsoKing

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 08:42 AM

Yesterday I played a game and didn't score high enough to progress to the next stage, so I didn't bother to check the Ascension page. This morning I go to the Ascension page to look at the new requirement and to my surprise I see that it says I can progress. I remember that a couple of days ago I scored high enough to meet yesterday's required score (but not high enough to meet the score that day). Maybe this is why the system let me go through despite not meeting the required score?

Not that I'm complaining wink.

I'm just curious if that is the way it was intended.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 09:13 AM

I just checked my Ascension page, and it hasn't changed one bit. I wish I knew your secret, AK!
Posted by: shorthumbz

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
I just checked my Ascension page, and it hasn't changed one bit. I wish I knew your secret, AK!


Just hang in there; you may get relief in a day or two (which, I'm coming to believe is not too long to wait in this game). Then one day, long after it doesn't matter anymore, you'll play the game for fun and way exceed what you needed! Good luck ...
Posted by: AlonsoKing

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 10:06 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
I just checked my Ascension page, and it hasn't changed one bit. I wish I knew your secret, AK!


I scored so low the system took pity on me grin
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 10:13 AM

Originally Posted By: AlonsoKing
Yesterday I played a game and didn't score high enough to progress to the next stage, so I didn't bother to check the Ascension page. This morning I go to the Ascension page to look at the new requirement and to my surprise I see that it says I can progress. I remember that a couple of days ago I scored high enough to meet yesterday's required score (but not high enough to meet the score that day). Maybe this is why the system let me go through despite not meeting the required score?

Not that I'm complaining wink.

I'm just curious if that is the way it was intended.


Hmm where were you in the ascension quest? That shouldnt happen..
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 10:14 AM

Oh wait, it could happen... for some games it looks at all of your scores SINCE you arrived at the stage. So yes, if you had been sitting there 4 days and the requirement dropped a bit, a score from 2 days ago that met the requirements would let you through.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 11:35 AM

Neat - so the cure for many players who missed a score by a hair will be just to wait a day...

That's a real bonus - I like it that way. No "If I only had played yesterday's score today..." frustration.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 02:24 PM

I have 2 questions:

1) Is it just dailies that have score reductions over time, or does this apply to other things as well (hourlies)?

2) Are there any particular score requirements that don't reduce at all?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 03:17 PM

1) Hourlies as well but they only reduce once per day.
2) Yes - when a requirement is clearly on the easy side or there are other options available, you will find requirements that do not drop.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 04:48 PM

I feel I accomplished a lot today in this Quest! This is fun!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 23 2013 11:41 PM

A note to all those having problems with Who am I - several players have made me aware that the score targets of this game can be very difficult (more so than intended) for some players who have to play the Champs sets while they're adequate to easy for others playing easy mode.

I'm currently discussing with Terry on how to best change this game's scoring in AQ to give both Champs and non-Champs an equal chance at it. Until then, please have patience if you're an affected Champ - I have put a rather high daily target reduction into chapter 2 so that Champs should be able to pass this without too much of a delay.
Posted by: Ghosttowner

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 01:55 AM

Thanks Wes! That allowed me to move on after many days :-)
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 03:00 AM

If I've been stuck at the same spot for two days and the target score hasn't changed, should I be worried? I'm very reluctant to backtrack and risk having to repeat everything I've already done!
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 03:34 AM

I thought that Who Am I was going to be "fixed" long ago by not putting people in Champ divisions (with the increased difficulty) until they had accumulated all Who Am I badges (including the 50k one). Whatever happened to that?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 03:39 AM

Rossian, score changes are linear per day. If there's no reduction on the second day, there isn't one. (Hint: Take a look at the 4th entry in the FAQ...)

Eyhung: As far as I know, Champs still doesn't check the 50k, but even if it does, it still results in some players having a harder time than others since AQ will be played by WaI champs.
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 05:58 AM

I just played a"Who's the Smartest" quiz on movies in roughly 30 seconds - but it said I took almost 3,000 seconds to do so.

Coulda gone to the movies in the interim smile
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Creedy
I just played a"Who's the Smartest" quiz on movies in roughly 30 seconds - but it said I took almost 3,000 seconds to do so.

Coulda gone to the movies in the interim smile


[24/May/2013:05:06:06 -0600] - creedy initiate play (clicked through from Smartest main page)

[24/May/2013:05:52:30 -0600] - creedy reload play page

[24/May/2013:05:53:21 -0600] - creedy submit play

There's your 3000 seconds!
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 24 2013 10:24 AM

Yes, WaI does not check the 50k. I think after accumulating 50000 points in the WaI game, you can be pretty fast even in the Champs set, because names repeat. I haven't gotten to 50000 though.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 25 2013 10:32 AM

I see the pioneer has made huge strides in the game.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 25 2013 12:26 PM

I was making strides but have been caught in a vortex - I just go round and round and I can't go anywhere without getting back to the same place. Someone throw me a lifebelt!
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 25 2013 12:48 PM

I would help you Flopsy, but I think throwing you a lifebelt from my own current vortex would defeat the purpose.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 25 2013 12:59 PM

I'm not stuck for any technical reasons, just because I'm not a big fan of Greek myth...
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 25 2013 06:49 PM

How odd, Terry. I thought I only clicked on it once. Doesn't matter in the slightest though. I just thought the time score was hilarious.

Must have developed a split personality from too much playing. My smart side clicked on it once. My idiotic side had a second shot.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 25 2013 08:34 PM

I think the killer game isn't Who Am I so much as GMM.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 01:32 AM

I thought the scores were done from averages of previous scores, the one I'm on now can't possibly be, and would like to know the last time anyone on the site got the score and time listed, surprised no one else on head 8 is still here waiting, or is there something I have missed
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 01:41 AM

Oh I see now, why did I not see this before
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 02:22 AM

Err...I didn't understand a word of that either, Pete smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 02:25 AM

I understood it perfectly, though, having been in the same situation myself...
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 04:06 AM

Pat you know I'm the only one I can have a sensible conversation with
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 05:17 AM

(Heheheh)
Posted by: Snowman

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 07:12 AM

Just a quick question from me and apologies if it's a spoiler - is there any route into the game that doesn't involve scoring a very large number of points in a day? Because if the answer is no then I can chalk this one down as a "not for me" challenge and move on to something else.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 08:29 AM

Honest answer, have not got a "Scooby Doo" I'm afraid
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 08:46 AM

Snowman, scoring some substantial points per day is part of several tasks in the game. The one you're at is one of the higher ones - in fact, there's a path through that won't need to you play more than that (but the same number will show once more).
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 10:57 AM

I am struggling with the same one, but I know that one day I will have time to dedicate myself to FT and be able to do that, and since this is a challenge to savor, I will do it whenever that day comes. Thanks for making these deliciously torturous exercises!
Posted by: portgleep

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 01:59 PM

How many chapters are there in total?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 02:22 PM

Obviously at least 12 smile
Posted by: portgleep

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 03:22 PM

Oh? Who's on 12? I thought dabomb was the highest at 9.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 03:31 PM

I think he was referring to the 12 Labors...
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 04:13 PM

But wait, there's more... - it would be optimistic to think we will be able to stop at the end of the 12 Labors.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 04:35 PM

Or, Wes could switch genres altogether midway through. How many Canterbury Tales were there? Dalmatians? Arabian Nights?
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 04:49 PM

I'm still drowning in my vortex, I thought I got out but no such luck. I may have to re-read the Canterbury Tales while I'm in here. Anyone got a waterproof copy?
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun May 26 2013 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: bubblesfun
Or, Wes could switch genres altogether midway through. How many Canterbury Tales were there? Dalmatians? Arabian Nights?


Oh, dear, I had only gotten as far as thinking of a baker's dozen. I may have to bequeath my challenges to my heirs shocked
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 27 2013 05:50 AM

If you get the option to write a quiz, are the chosen topics different for everyone?

And if so, why pick on me with those?! tongue
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 27 2013 07:13 AM

Only 12 challenges. That's disappointing frown

I was hoping for a lot more. These marathon challenges are great.

Getting those 25,000 points in one day strained the friendship a bit, lol. I did the first 8,000 before I went to bed and then had to play like crazy in three and a half hours for the rest because I was too lazy to get out of bed for ages the next morning.

They're easier to rack up than you anticipate. I played General or Children's. Avoiding Harry Potter of course. Both are quick and easy. It took longer with each game to allow me to scroll down and give it a rating than to play it. The PC slowed right down each time. But I played, roughly, 30-40 quizzes an hour.

If you did that and got 10 right each time (which I didn't because I was getting punch drunk) that's 150 points a game, and between 4,500-6,000 points an hour.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 27 2013 07:31 AM

Wes didn't say 'only 12', just 'at least 12'. I've found myself in the vortex too, going around in ever decreasing circles. Do we get any additional help or hints if we're stuck here for days Wes?
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon May 27 2013 08:29 PM

Oic.

Ta.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 07:13 AM

On the page that awarded the Questian badge, it said this:

"Other players here:

No one

Searching for var replay to jump to..."

Just wondered if the last sentence was there by accident. If not, can anyone elucidate its meaning? smile
Posted by: Snowman

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 07:23 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Snowman, scoring some substantial points per day is part of several tasks in the game. The one you're at is one of the higher ones - in fact, there's a path through that won't need to you play more than that (but the same number will show once more).


Thanks Wes

Unfortunately that counts me out of participating then. That target is way beyond my reach.

Is there any way that an alternative route can be provided, for example by accumulation of brains? Then those of us that cannot spend hours at a time on the site have something to aim for too.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 09:27 AM

I think Snowman has a point here. One or two other members of our team have indicated that they're not going to bother with the Quest because 20,000 in a day is too much, especially as it appears that some people might have to do it twice.

Wes - do you have any indication of how many people who are still in the Prologue have stalled at this point? If this starts to look like a real jam, then I wonder if the bar may have been set a bit high.

If you ask me, just getting 20,000 at all before going on would seem hard enough. If you wanted to make it a bit more difficult, how about 20,000 in a day or 40,000 in as long a period as you like?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 09:34 AM

Stedman, there is no code for that. I could provide an alternate requirement based on authoring - that's about the only other "endurance" task available in the backend as a single thing.

Or I could make one that uses some smaller requirement, say 7500, three times after each other (or another count for different scores). It would be slower to get through but the player would get there as well.

Which one would you guys prefer?
Posted by: gracie3

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 10:00 AM

Anything has be easier than trying for 25,000 in a day... I'd given the game up because of that.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 10:03 AM

Having an alternative of scoring 7500 on three successive days would seem reasonable. I've already got past that stage and found it tiring and tedious, and don't fancy having to do it again. I might well be prepared to sacrifice the quick progress for a slower version.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 10:11 AM

Okay, I'll build a side path that will allow to do most of these requirements in 7500 steps at a certain surcharge. (There's three that won't get changed, but one is just over 10,000 and the other two are optional with other ways to solve)
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 10:23 AM

Wesley, I'm faced with having to get 10000 points for the third time - I don't know why I ended up with that but anything which could reduce the number would be useful. Or in my case, a lifesaver. Otherwise I'm going to have to withdraw, doing it again is just not an option for me.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 12:03 PM

Flopsymopsy, you've seriously been missing something. I made a small change that will allow you (and others) to get out of where you are for now, but you need to pay more attention to where you are and where you go or repeating of stages you shouldn't need to repeat will most certainly happen to you again in the game.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 12:24 PM

Also, maybe is deserves repeating: This game is not a race. If you are facing a requirement multiple times because you took a wrong decision and don't want to do it again, take a break. No one forces you to do a point sprint three times in four days.

I'm open to discuss requirements that are too difficult for the first time when some players simply can't make it due to restrictions (e.g. they can't play too many hours per day due to health reasons) and provide adequate alternate paths for them. However, part of the game is to make decisions based on the storyline text and get them right. This will become more prominent the further you advance. If you are treating it just as a sequence of quizzes and game scores, you're not only missing half the fun, you'll also inevitably get yourself stuck and repeating stages.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 12:25 PM

Thanks Wes - I was just so relieved at getting past the stage I was at yesterday I got misled by the flowers. I would blame my hayfever, except I don't suffer from that. smile
Posted by: Johnsnow

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 03:27 PM

Post #985992 is a great summary for this particular game.

IMO, I personally do not like the "change the rules as we go" concept. I am enjoying the game as it is, even though I have been stuck on the same challenge since May 24 13 3:50 PM. The preface states this game is not a race, and this game may not be for everyone. I think the Ascension Quest is just fine. Not everybody gets a trophy...
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 03:38 PM

I partly agree and partly disagree with John's statement.

I think that changes are necessary, if something is too difficult for the average player...

However, I also believe that changing it simply to make it easier for players who don't want to do a particular task is not necessary.

This is meant to be difficult. I'm not saying I look forward to having to earn 20,000 points in a single day; the last time I did that I nearly died of exhaustion... However, if that's what it is set to, then it is how it has to be.

I would be in favor of a scale down each day, however; perhaps 1,000 each day. So if someone really does not feel like earning 25,000 points, and can only earn, say, 5,000, they have to wait 20 days to achieve that (a penalty, sure, but it still makes the task accessible to all even if simply through persistence).
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 03:48 PM

I'd just add that it's a new game, and it has thrown up the odd problem which Wes could not have anticipated. It's not so much a case of making it easier, but of providing another way of reaching the same point. I got stuck early in the game, in the Prologue, by making a bad decision and ignoring the option to reverse it. I paid the appropriate penalty, but it has made me more cautious now before committing myself to any pathway.
I have tried to stop and smell the roses en route, and am enjoying the game more for not trying to rush through it.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
I would be in favor of a scale down each day, however; perhaps 1,000 each day. So if someone really does not feel like earning 25,000 points, and can only earn, say, 5,000, they have to wait 20 days to achieve that (a penalty, sure, but it still makes the task accessible to all even if simply through persistence).


I have considered that, but it would involve work that Terry would need to do and then I need to adapt the game anyway (besides, would you really want to allow someone to let this rest down to zero?)

My fix that I'm currently coding breaks down any large endurance task that doesn't have a non-endurance alternative into batches of 7,500 points - a number everyone should be able to reach with a bit of commitment. It's about 50 quizzes plus playing the dailies and hourlies a bit. There's a bit of interest to pay for this option in that you will need between 10 and 25 percent more total points than if you do it in one day, but since it seems only the most dedicated of players enjoy point runs of more than 10k or so per day, it looks like this will only improve the game. (I completely misjudged this from seeing the daily score tables and the scores people play when competing for the Endurance badge. At this point, I would have considered 20,000 a mild challenge for most level 100+ players and even the classic marathon of 42,195 something most would rather enjoy than hate if it only happens once.)

The original endurance tasks will of course remain available and any purists who wish to play through this aspect of Ascension Quest as originally written will be able to do so.
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 04:39 PM

I'm just weighing in to say that I love the endurance ones. They are such fun to tackle and for people like me (retired and have time, but not a speedster), they're actually more doable than some of those once a day tasks. Not complaining about the Dailies at all, just saying, one shot and you're done for the day; at least with the hourlies you can try for it multiple times a day. But with the endurance ones, you can just keep going towards the goal.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 04:39 PM

The multi-day paths for the prologue and chapter 1 should now work - I'll add them for later requirements once I see that a few players have successfully played through them and that all the code was correct. Enjoy "Slow but steady" mode if you so prefer smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Dagny1
I'm just weighing in to say that I love the endurance ones. They are such fun to tackle and for people like me (retired and have time, but not a speedster), they're actually more doable than some of those once a day tasks. Not complaining about the Dailies at all, just saying, one shot and you're done for the day; at least with the hourlies you can try for it multiple times a day. But with the endurance ones, you can just keep going towards the goal.


Dagny - that's the spirit! You'll still be able to do them as they always were (and save yourself some days in the process)
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 05:52 PM

Well, gee, these changes make me feel like a chump. I had to make some personal sacrifices to get those endurance bits and I would have preferred not to have undergone the costs that it took on my health, as it the Endurance badge was never a badge I was particularly interested in getting. I think that the GMM requirement is too high, so would you change that, too, while your changing things, please? Thanks.
Posted by: themonarch

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 07:09 PM

I could have sworn the Ascension Quest was designed to be a long and very difficult journey for most players which is why it is only open to centurions not everyone is going to complete it. I honestly think all of the requirements should remain the same. I have been on chapter 4 for a few days now because of some tough scores in certain games and I have absolutely no problem with that. It will be that much more rewarding when I get out of there. I am thoroughly enjoying this and I think making certain aspects about this easier is a disservice to what a true challenge this is. Let's face it, not everyone is going to finish it which is why this is considered one of the most difficult challenges on this site.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 07:37 PM

I'm not averse to changes being made, I think it's quite nice for Wesley to bother at all after all the ridiculously hard work he has put into this thing already.

Although I have 130 something levels (or whatever), anything to do with "endurance" was never my forte (still trying to figure out exactly what mine is lol). I barely made 6789 and have absolutely no desire to try for 12345. But I managed the 20K thing at the beginning of this quest (mostly because I had the day off lol) but moreover because I wanted to see what "came next". I was most disappointed to find out from team board messages that I would probably have to duplicate this feat further along the road. Oh well, too bad tunafish ~

Yes, certainly, this entire challenge might not be for "everyone" and I applaud anyone who met the requirements on the first try. All y'all are a better "man" than I, Gunga Din lol.

I'll just keep on paddling my kayak : )
Posted by: mehaul

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 08:08 PM

Has that thing got wifi?
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 08:16 PM

I suppose it "could", but no it doesn't. Most importantly it has a fully stocked bar AND toilet paper. Oh yeah, there's probably a long list of some safety/survival gear on board too, but that would be boring lol.

(edited because apparently I can't spell worth crap).
Posted by: Johnsnow

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 10:03 PM

An absolutely perfect post, Monarch. Well said. Period.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 10:28 PM

Some fine tuning of the game during the early stages of play seems to me like a good idea. It doesn't make sense to set a hurdle that a large number of players will find insurmountable right at the start. If you only have a few hours a day that can be spent here, then 20,000 points in a day is not going to happen. I did the 20,000 points when I met it, but had to wait until the weekend to have the time. I am lucky enough to be able to spend an entire day on FunTrivia on the weekend, if I plan things. Not everyone has that luxury.

There may be other tasks that will prove to be similarly out of the reach of some, leading to them giving up and waiting until some time in the future when they may be able to tackle it, but surely it should not happen at the very start. Wes's detour, that involves probably more time, but broken down into chunks that are more achievable for people facing time constraints seems eminently sensible.
Posted by: Snowman

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 28 2013 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes

There may be other tasks that will prove to be similarly out of the reach of some, leading to them giving up and waiting until some time in the future when they may be able to tackle it, but surely it should not happen at the very start. Wes's detour, that involves probably more time, but broken down into chunks that are more achievable for people facing time constraints seems eminently sensible.


That was the thinking behind my hopeful request and I am very appreciative of Wes's effort to open the game up for a few more people. It will still be very challenging to achieve for many of us whose time on site is limited but it is at least possible now.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 01:08 AM

By the way - this change wouldn't have been made if it had been just a handful of players. However in total between the prologue and chapter 1, what seemed to be a simple requirement during creation prevented over 100 players (!) from advancing, three quarters of those at the very first hurdle.

That's certainly not what it was meant to be - sorry to all stuck and I hope the "traffic jam" will now clear. And Grace, the GMM requirement you are referring to is already self-adjusting, so there's absolutely no need to change that.

Also, a free, tiny hint to those stuck at a certain library: There are two words in bold in the game's text. They're not just flavor and decoration smile
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 01:22 AM

I'm just enjoying the round and round in circles I have been doing, but I now appear to be on the right track (or am I), rear end getting painful though, from kicking myself so much. I'll get there sometime at my own speed and pace and try to enjoy it as I go along.

I think it does what it says on the tin "FUN"
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 03:44 AM

Rofl! Wesley, you mean thing. I was on the Who Am I for a couple of days and decided to back track and play the alternatives. Instead it eventually took me back to the Who Am I again. Hilarious!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 05:03 AM

Creedy, there IS a difference... smile
Posted by: Creedy

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 05:28 AM

All grist for the mill, Wesley. I love this challenge wherever it takes us smile
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 06:16 AM

Nice of you to join me Pat
Posted by: dippo

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 06:29 AM

Wes

There's some text showing when you achieve 7500 that probably shouldn't be there:

Checking if endure < 1
No. Value is currently 3
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 06:33 AM

Dippo, it's a debug text - thanks for reporting it. Now I know that it affects more than one member. Terry will need to ensure these things don't show (but you can safely ignore it - it's some internal data I'm keeping to make you go around the loop the correct number of times)
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 09:40 PM

I can't go any further until I have enough team points frown I gave up the leadership of my team to join another to even have a chance to earn some points. I like my new team though and am just 'hanging out' to be able to get further in the quest smile
Posted by: kevinatilusa

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 10:51 PM

In Hercules' original labor he was required to clean out the Augean Stables in a single day.

May I just say how thankful I am that you don't impose a similar time constraint on us for that task.
Posted by: tiddybitnibbly

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 11:11 PM

Originally Posted By: kevinatilusa
In Hercules' original labor he was required to clean out the Augean Stables in a single day.

May I just say how thankful I am that you don't impose a similar time constraint on us for that task.


My thoughts exactly. I may be here a while.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed May 29 2013 11:15 PM

The page I'm at now lists previous attempts, but it only lists five of them. I've made something like twenty attempts. Will all of them count, or only the five showing?
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
Some fine tuning of the game during the early stages of play seems to me like a good idea. It doesn't make sense to set a hurdle that a large number of players will find insurmountable right at the start. If you only have a few hours a day that can be spent here, then 20,000 points in a day is not going to happen. I did the 20,000 points when I met it, but had to wait until the weekend to have the time. I am lucky enough to be able to spend an entire day on FunTrivia on the weekend, if I plan things. Not everyone has that luxury.

There may be other tasks that will prove to be similarly out of the reach of some, leading to them giving up and waiting until some time in the future when they may be able to tackle it, but surely it should not happen at the very start. Wes's detour, that involves probably more time, but broken down into chunks that are more achievable for people facing time constraints seems eminently sensible.


Hmmm, everyone is talking about the 20k - I wonder if I went the wrong way, because I had to reach 25k I think to remember. And also where I'm stuck at the moment (and have been for a few days), I seem to be stuck all on my own, nobody seems to have gone this way.
confused
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 12:38 AM

Haha, or more to the point, maybe people don't get stuck here and find this task easy smile
But I'm not going to retreat, because if I have to repeat one of my previous tasks, this will be much harder, so I'm just going to plod on, I know at one point my requirement will be met.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 01:05 AM

Froggyx - it may help you to make a decision if you read my post on page 13 of this thread (number 985345) and Wes's response two posts later.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 02:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Lones78
I can't go any further until I have enough team points frown I gave up the leadership of my team to join another to even have a chance to earn some points. I like my new team though and am just 'hanging out' to be able to get further in the quest smile


Why not go for the alternate requirement? That should be much faster even if you initially have some trouble with the score (since it comes down over time)
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 02:42 AM

Froggy, I know that feeling of the empty zone - quite worrying, lol! But following a rash retreat panic, I took the same attitude as you and the plodding worked just as well as dashing back and forth, for me anyway. Good luck.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 02:43 AM

Originally Posted By: kevinatilusa
In Hercules' original labor he was required to clean out the Augean Stables in a single day.

May I just say how thankful I am that you don't impose a similar time constraint on us for that task.


That particular stage seems to have a profound effect on about everyone smile
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: rossian
Foggyx - it may help you to make a decision if you read my post on page 13 of this thread (number 985345) and Wes's response two posts later.


Thanks Rossian, just went back to have a look, and it looks like I've decided for the right option. smile


Originally Posted By: Chavs
Froggy, I know that feeling of the empty zone - quite worrying, lol! But following a rash retreat panic, I took the same attitude as you and the plodding worked just as well as dashing back and forth, for me anyway. Good luck.



Thanks, it's good to hear I'm not on my own smile
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Originally Posted By: Lones78
I can't go any further until I have enough team points frown I gave up the leadership of my team to join another to even have a chance to earn some points. I like my new team though and am just 'hanging out' to be able to get further in the quest smile


Why not go for the alternate requirement? That should be much faster even if you initially have some trouble with the score (since it comes down over time)


My target finally dropped to a score that I could manage with some luck. I'm now stuck not two pages farther on. But I needed to play this particular stop's game more anyway...and I get a badge at the end, so I'm happy smile
Posted by: Aedan57

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu May 30 2013 08:18 PM

This may just be the way game goes but I'm confused. After a week of trying I finally achieved the score needed to move on.
It seems I'm being directed to back out for not being able to achieve the necessary score, in the very hour I reached the goal. Perhaps the direction is the one given to all who meet the required score.
Hope it's that way, after a week of trying & finally making it I'd hate to be tossed backwards at the last minute!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 12:26 AM

Aedan, you're go go "back out" of a certain building... smile

I need to adjust that wording it seems. You're not the first to misunderstand its intention
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 01:43 AM

Wes - just out of curiosity - has the scoring adjustment you made helped with the logjam starting the game?

Could you give us a stats update for the numbers of players at each stage, too, please, if it's not too much work for you to produce.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 02:06 AM

At least 38 of the stuck players have so far used the bypass option with most of them having completed at least one leg. So this one seems to work smile

Stats:

2 in chapter 9
1 in chapter 6
4 in chapter 5
12 in chapter 4
30 in chapter 3
48 in chapter 2
106 in chapter 1
198 in prologue

401 total
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 02:20 AM

Thanks, Wes. The further I get in the game the more I admire your ingenuity. It must have taken a huge amount of time to create the game and all the byways. I'm loving it, so far, even though I've had several sticky moments on the way, and am looking at another right now.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 02:28 AM

And I am rather enjoying my stage of gently wandering in circles, trying to find the way to get somewhere that I am sure is possible, if I only approach it correctly. It's a nice break from killing myself to meet challenges, now I am only grappling with my own lack of gaming skills. I'll probably end up stumbling over it by accident. laugh
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 09:22 AM

I'm only in chapter 1, but I'd also like to say a massive thanks to Wesley for the Ascension quest. Greek myth is a favorite subject, so that's the icing on the cake! smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 09:34 AM

I like it, because now I might do better in the "Greek Myth" category in Expert; because this is NOT my subject of choice. wink
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 01:33 PM

Have I missed anything chaps?

I have returned a score of over 7,500 points on each of the last three days and yet nothing seems to have changed on the page that comes up when I enter the Ascension Quest page from the homepage.

Am I doing something wrong? Does the page change after the 24hr update? Or should I have scored more than 7,500 pts?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 01:41 PM

sister, have you actually advanced from the stage after completing the 7500 requirement? If you just stay there, it will never count for more than one completion.

You need to complete the 7500, reload the stage and exit it on the day you did the requirement. You'll then pass a few other stages and loop back for the next try, but if you never leave, you'll never get credited for the second and subsequent completion.
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 02:33 PM

I selected 'Go Back' and I was then advanced to the next stage... Thanks Wes.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 04:19 PM

I've chosen the alternative route for the points, and can't remember what the case is - must you achieve the 7500 four days *in a row* or just any four days as long as you come back to the page on each day to move it forward?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 04:48 PM

Any time. You can do it on four consecutive days or put in breaks just as desired.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 31 2013 04:53 PM

Thanks, that's good news, haha smile The 20 was doable to begin with, but I'm very grateful for an alternative option.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 08:33 AM

Back at head 1 again for the third time, may just give this a miss, don't think it's for me
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 12:33 PM

Is it four days at 7,500 points? I thought it was three?
Posted by: Mink

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 02:11 PM

sisterseagull, I think it may depend on exactly which stage you;re at. I had to do 4 x 7,500 to get past 25,000 points in a day rather than 20,000.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 03:13 PM

sister, you need 3 and have two completed on file, so you need one more to pass. Remember that one (maybe even two) of your rounds did not count because you didn't advance the stage after doing the criteria, so the system never saw some of your tries.

From the FAQ:

What should I know about completing individual challenges?

There are some new challenge types in this game, in particular those that require you to gather a certain number of points per day and those that ask you to perform at a certain level in Knockout. These two challenge types are time-dependent: You must go back into the game, claim them and advance to the next stage on the day you have met the requirements (Knockout always looks at the previous day to see whether you have won your game, so you need to check that on the very next day).
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 03:36 PM

Gee, this new set-up sounds rather confusing. Maybe it is a good thing after all that some of us just bit the bullet and did the 20K when that was the only choice at the time we started the Quest!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 04:05 PM

Grace, the same could happen to you if you do it in one day (and in fact it did happen to one player who completed the 25k, did not advance the same evening and then found himself blocked the next day. So it does bear reminding - on a points per day stage, always advance once you have the points.
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 01 2013 05:26 PM

Yes Gracious... As Wesley says, I didn't realise that I had to advance until my third day at 7500

Talk about gutted! LOL
Posted by: dippo

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 01:23 AM

Well, I've done the 7,500 in a day 4 times in a row, instead of the 25,000 it originally wanted.

This morning it's asking me for another day of 7,500. Is that correct?
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 01:48 AM

Why do I find myself singing "All Along the Watchtower" all day long?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:11 AM

dippo, something went wrong in your play pattern. You are shown correctly doing the 7500 twice on the 29th and 30th. On the 31st, you didn't return to the place where you were actually supposed to do them but rather played at the place where you checked for waking up (so it could not count). The same happened on June 1.

You need to be at the stage "Slow and steady..." to make your play register, not at "A well deserved rest...". (I see where the text misled you - the check for the new day is a bit complex and I probably didn't describe it too well). Let me see if I can get this a bit more clear in the game. You'll need one more round played as it stands now, please make sure that you leave the current stage again (to check for morning) and move on to "Slow and steady..." before going for it.
Posted by: dippo

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:20 AM

Thanks, but I think I'll forget it. As far as I'm concerned, I've done everything correctly, and it hasn't worked. I don't think 'something went wrong with my play pattern'. Maybe I'll come back in a few months when it might be sorted.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:35 AM

Changed the story text and explanation on those stages somewhat to hopefully make it clearer where you should be when playing for the daily score and how to get to the right place if you're not.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: dippo
As far as I'm concerned, I've done everything correctly,


I don't mean to be rude or insensitive, but I don't think you have. You are entitled to your opinion but Wes has already been generous enough to offer people an alternate route (when 20,000 points only took me less than 2 hours of effort) and he's already had to explain numerous times what to do to people who haven't understood the instructions. The FAQ has explained to always advance in point requirements from the very start, Wes has explained what to do on here and the text when you reach that stage probably tells you what to do as well. You can do whatever you want, but it doesn't sound like you have done everything correctly, so coming back in a few months "when it might be sorted" doesn't make sense because there's no problem and nothing to sort out.

As far as I know, if you can advance (click the arrow and move on), you always should, apart from maybe in exploration stages or places that might give you hints. I might not have seen exactly the section where it gives you the 3x7500 option, but unless I'm missing something, clicking that arrow to continue is always what you should do if the game allows you to and staying in the same place when you've completed that task (e.g. the first set of 7500) seems illogical.
Posted by: dippo

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 04:35 AM

Thank you for your contribution. Your use of the expressions "probably", "as far as I know", "it doesn't sound like", "I might not have seen exactly" and "unless I'm missing something" all tell me what an authoritative statement it is.

By the way, "I don't mean to be rude or insensitive".
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 04:44 AM

Dippo, that is enough cynicism for the day. I've taken this to PM with you for a reason.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 05:37 AM

Some of us are still going around in ever decreasing circles and getting very dizzy
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 06:16 AM

I "think" (no, this isn't a Descartes quote lol) that folks need to write down EVERYTHING when/before/after they advance to a new stage.

I also always click on the Ascension link before I play as well as after I play what I assume is what the game WANTS me to play (assumptions are apparently not amongst my "talents" lol).

To me, it's sort of like some of the badges where if you don't "check in" in the "challenge" room, you don't get credit for them. Checking in fairly often is not a big deal for me (especially since I'm not advancing anywhere particularly fast in this game lol).

It's been quite entertaining so far (despite the waits due to my awful scores, but hey, too bad tunafish lol).

Yes there may be a few "bugs" (mind, I see some folks have made it to Chapter 9 already, so the bugs must be fairly few in number) but I am still in awe regarding the amount of work that has gone into this and I'm only in chapter one (or two, or something, could be confused as usual lol)

Thanks for the game Wes and your willingness to make accommodations where you deem them necessary.

p.s. I really really miss Infocom adventures. So far, this is the closest resemblance I've seen in awhile, with the extra complication of making it meld with FT in some way. Good work (even if I never finish it LOL!).
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 07:02 AM

Jakeroo, this is exactly it - before playing, make sure you are where you think you are. I can fully understand that it is frustrating for some players if they meet a requirement only to find out it hasn't been scored because they forgot to click through to the right place (and this is something everyone needs to remember for several stages including the grand finale: If you're on one of those "You need to make just one of these and can freely switch back and forth until you hit one" segments, make sure you are switched to the one you want to play before playing. You wouldn't want to waste the best game you played all year just because you only thought you were at the right location...)
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 07:58 AM

NOW he tells me...
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 08:53 AM

I *hope* I completed the first 7500 day correctly yesterday - I saw somewhere it said something about count = 3, so I assumed it meant I have three days remaining. If that's the case, then it should be something for people to look out for to make sure their current day went through. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 09:36 AM

reeshy, your game log looks perfect.
Posted by: DaisiJ

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 10:08 AM

Will there be a reduction for the "Fill Me In" stage? I arrived on 31 May and am not even close to the required score. It's the eighth head and I really don't want to retreat if possible. If not, I'll carry on trying. smilee
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 12:06 PM

This is all good advice people...

I started playing for my third and final 7,500 points earlier this afternoon. I have just completed the required number and returned to the 'Ascension Quest' page, exactly as I have done for the last five or six days to advance myself forward, only to find that it appears that I was expected to visit the page BEFORE I started on today's points building session. Consequently, I've been playing for the last what,... 6 and a half hours on and off, and it looks as if todays score isn't going to count - AGAIN!

Grrrrrrr.... LOL
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: sisterseagull
This is all good advice people...

I started playing for my third and final 7,500 points earlier this afternoon. I have just completed the required number and returned to the 'Ascension Quest' page, exactly as I have done for the last five or six days to advance myself forward, only to find that it appears that I was expected to visit the page BEFORE I started on today's points building session. Consequently, I've been playing for the last what,... 6 and a half hours on and off, and it looks as if todays score isn't going to count - AGAIN!

Grrrrrrr.... LOL



Perhaps it needs a warning in red or something that the points are not retroactive. They are one of the few in the Challenges, so that could well confuse players.
Posted by: sisterseagull

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:15 PM

I think we need to be careful though. This game has clearly been months in the making and it would be a shame to start re-writing it from the ground up!

It was my own fault for (a) making assumptions, and (b) not checking back before I started playing again.

Wes, I'm sure, must be getting sick of it all by now!
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:29 PM

The trial and error might be part of the game. laugh

smile I don't know how anyone can resist clicking on the page before you do anything else anyway! I click on it even when I know I don't stand a hope of moving on for at least another 24 hours. I click on the page repeatedly in the hope that I have read something incorrectly and I am really though to the next level ... cf Schrodinger's Cat.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:33 PM

Quote:
I click on the page repeatedly in the hope that I have read something incorrectly


Keep doing that! I do the same and it paid off once, as I had actually been playing the wrong game! I read the instructions again, clicked on Play Me instead of running off to play what I thought I was supposed to play, and advanced right away smile
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:37 PM

laugh Brilliant!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 02:48 PM

Sister, you've fallen to the same problem as Dippo - you've played the 7500 while in the wrong place. I'll add a big red "don't play here" / green "do play here" to these - it seems that in spite of the warning text already present, some players still accidentally play while on the rest stage.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 03:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
smile I don't know how anyone can resist clicking on the page before you do anything else anyway! I click on it even when I know I don't stand a hope of moving on for at least another 24 hours. I click on the page repeatedly in the hope that I have read something incorrectly and I am really though to the next level ... cf Schrodinger's Cat.


Well, I guess I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that. :P I had to check and re-check the exact time my required score was going down today and then visited the page about 5 times a couple of minutes before even though I knew it wouldn't do any good at all.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 03:15 PM

lol! But maybe just observing it really could make a difference. (What time does the AQ-addicts-anonymous support group meet? Save me a chair.)
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 03:36 PM

I'll book the Albert Hall, Chavs. We're gonna need a big space.
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 03:47 PM

Forget the Albert Hll, nowhere near big enough - we need Hyde Park.
Posted by: Ghosttowner

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 04:17 PM

Even though the Ascension Quest can be puzzling, baffling, frustrating and downright crazy, I have to say it is always an entertaining and fun challenge. Thanks so much for all your effort Wes. However, my printer is probably going to die soon! As Wes has said, it is very valuable to have those notes! I had to backtrack one level and found I had missed one little thing! If I hadn't had notes, I would never have found that error. So every bit of information counts - keep on rising up everyone! Apollo would be proud!
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 02 2013 05:26 PM

I wish I had a printer connected to my laptop - there are many days when I can't read my own handwriting - should have been a doctor I guess lol.
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 02:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
The trial and error might be part of the game. laugh

smile I don't know how anyone can resist clicking on the page before you do anything else anyway! I click on it even when I know I don't stand a hope of moving on for at least another 24 hours. I click on the page repeatedly in the hope that I have read something incorrectly and I am really though to the next level ... cf Schrodinger's Cat.


I found out that there is another way around the part I was stuck at and really don't need what I thought I did (yay for oging back and re-reading the section! laugh ). What a wally! After a big slap to the forehead and a rather resounding "derrrr", I have moved off onto the next bit. Feeling like a complete idiot now smile
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 05:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Christinap
Forget the Albert Hll, nowhere near big enough - we need Hyde Park.


I need to attend these meetings too. Are plane tickets available from the States?!
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 05:53 AM

If you want the MCG (seats 100,000 or so, before you add seats on the playing ground), we could book a regular weeknight meeting. Friday to Monday is usually football or cricket, though,depending on the season. Americans will need visas, I think.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
I wish I had a printer connected to my laptop - there are many days when I can't read my own handwriting - should have been a doctor I guess lol.


Jakeroo, I take screenshots of every single new page and file them in numerical order, might be an idea for you too smile

(a 'before' and 'after' shot I need to add)
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 10:37 AM

I had that problem also dippo. There was a note about it not always recognizing one of the sessions and that you may end up having to do one too many.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 11:15 AM

WorldB, if you play correctly and always only play at the green "play here" box, you will never have an extra session. The note about extras was that it sometimes takes two rounds of clicks (but no play) to get back from the rest stage to the play stage.

This latter problem should change soon - I've asked Terry to expand the backend in a way that will make it MUCH easier and more intuitive to code the resting part of it.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 12:00 PM

Originally Posted By: froggyx
Originally Posted By: Jakeroo
I wish I had a printer connected to my laptop - there are many days when I can't read my own handwriting - should have been a doctor I guess lol.


Jakeroo, I take screenshots of every single new page and file them in numerical order, might be an idea for you too smile

(a 'before' and 'after' shot I need to add)


I do the exact same, and keep them in their own folder for easy access later.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 03:07 PM

Important technical info: In case anyone is having trouble with an advancement or "go back" link, please do a hard reload of the stage in question. There has been a change to the advancement links to prevent a possible sneaky cheat (which a player accidentally discovered - no one actually cheated) and a link created prior to the change might no longer work.

If neither reloading nor restarting your browser give you a valid link, please drop me a message and I'll give your game position a good kick.

This is a one-time issue affecting only your first advance after the change. Once you have successfully advanced a stage after about 2pm today, you are no longer prone to be affected by it.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 08:28 PM

Something seems to be wrong with my game. I wrote you a PM.
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 03 2013 10:01 PM

Removed
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 04 2013 05:01 PM

froggy and k-girl: wow you two are way too organised for me! lol (but I do thank you both, that's an excellent suggestion) : )
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 04 2013 06:10 PM

Technical note: Thanks to a backend improvement by Terry, I was now able to re-code the multi-day point segment in a more intuitive way. This code change did not lose any game data; all progress including how many days you have already played is fully intact.

A few players (5 to be exact) are currently at a stage that is no longer needed in the game - if your screen should indicate so, please simply use the link provided to return to your correct position and progress.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 08:36 AM

Jakeroo - I copy and paste the bits I need to keep into a Word document. I don't do anything else too fancy, like folders, but at least I know I'll have a record of what I've done. I can only hope that I haven't dismissed something as unimportant now which will be vital later...
Posted by: Upstart3

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 10:39 AM

I wish I'd thought of that!
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 11:38 AM

I now figured, that in the worst case scenario (and I think I've really made my best attempt and won't get another better one) I should be able to move on on Sunday after resetting.

But, as it only shows the last 5 attempts since arriving, will it remember my best score even if it no longer shows on the list because it was 6 or 7 days ago, Wes?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 12:25 PM

No idea, froggy. That would be one Terry would have to answer. I'd suspect it's rather by number of days, not by count, but I don't know the backend code.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 01:16 PM

confused Hmm, in this case I think I just don't make any further attempts (or maybe 1), just to make sure my highest score in this game won't get lost.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 01:43 PM

Hmm I don't want to have a huge scrolling list of attempts... perhaps I should show the top 5 scores since you've arrived there.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 05 2013 02:03 PM

Actually only the best attempt would really be needed as a display score - "You played 8 times and your best score was 1376" would be a good message. None of the stages looks at anything but the best game.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 01:59 AM

Any of these two options would be great smile
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 02:19 AM

Post deleted.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 02:44 AM

As an editor, you see some of the debug messages. You can ignore them - they're not really useful to you anyway unless you know the exact structure of the game's code.

(By the way, can you please cut them from the post? No need to show them in public - that might only entice some people to try and prove the second half of my first line wrong smile )
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 02:44 AM

seems like I've been slightly too pessimistic - couldn't resist playing today and finally made it - whoo hoo
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 05:30 AM

Congratulations! That must have felt great. laugh
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 06:18 AM

This game is like an old British sitcom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_Decreasing_Circles
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 06 2013 07:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
Congratulations! That must have felt great. laugh


It did Chavs, ta smile

Especially, it happened totally unexpected!
I think it was my highest score I ever had in this game, I think this score would've even been enough for the initial goal on the first day.
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 08:32 AM

Wes - I seem to have run into a problem. Last night, I broke down a stage to complete 7,500 points for 3 days and completed the first stage last night about an hour before FT should have turned over the end of day. It is now almost 12 hours later and I have the following when I return to the Ascension link:

Quote:
Notice: Playing for the 7500 on this stage will not count towards your total repetitions but rather prevent you from getting where you want to be.
Make sure you see a green box before starting your 2nd and subsequent daily attempt!

No. Value is currently 2


with a "go Back" option.

It appears to me that I can't score points today that will count?

Thanks
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 11:12 AM

the value indicates how many days you have to go, so yesterday did count. You click on the go back and follow the links until you get the green box. Sometimes it happens first time, other times I had to click through a few times through the screens.
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 11:43 AM

OK that worked. Thanks. I was afraid to go back based on the messages I thought told me not to.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 12:52 PM

I've been stuck for over a week now trying to get what seems like an impossible score (for me) on the Daily Game. Can I assume that if the target has not yet been reduced (it hasn't) that it never will?

I'm quickly losing interest, especially as there's only one chance a day to advance.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 12:57 PM

Liz; the good thing about this game is that it's not a race. If it takes years before reaching the score; imagine the excitement when you finally get it and are able to move on!

The game is not for everyone; there are definitely going to be scores that I am sure I will be stuck at for months and months... One lucky day I may finally get a good score in a game to advance. But it's kind of fun to know that this game is going to be a very long haul. smile


Course, that's my opinion... :P
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 12:59 PM

Liz: FAQ, 4th entry smile
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 07 2013 01:26 PM

Thanks Wes smile I guess I have a decision to make.
Posted by: reeshy

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 08 2013 11:04 AM

Originally Posted By: WorldB
OK that worked. Thanks. I was afraid to go back based on the messages I thought told me not to.


I was the same, and only tried it because I saw no other option. Thankfully everything went smoothly! Glad you got to the next stage. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 07:15 AM

The latest stats show a wide field of players all over the game:

Chapter 12: 2 players
Chapter 8: 2 players
Chapter 6: 3 players
Chapter 5: 12 players
Chapter 4: 26 players
Chapter 3: 50 players
Chapter 2: 62 players
Chapter 1: 89 players
Prologue: 169 players

Total 415 players
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 07:54 AM

Is there any chance that if we drag our feet long enough the number of quizzes required in certain sections might go down as scores of games do? Pretty please????
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 08:27 AM

I don't see why it would be needed. You can replay the quizzes every 24 hours for as long as you want, so it doesn't seem needed to bring the number down. After a week, you could memorize the answers to get all 10 in every quiz. wink
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 08:39 AM

I am talking about the sheer number of quizzes required. I was semi-kidding, but you will see it for yourself when you get there, lol.
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 08:42 AM

Salami when you get to the part that bubbles is on you might have second thoughts :P I don't think the number should go down because you can always chip away at them, much better than being stuck at a particularly high daily game target for a fortnight in my opinion.
Posted by: bubblesfun

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 08:43 AM

Heck, it was worth a try!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 12:38 PM

Bubbles, be glad I didn't stay true to the original and make you do that stage in one day smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 10 2013 12:50 PM

Bubbles - I feel your pain...
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 11 2013 07:15 PM

I'm at that point in Chapter 3 where I can hear the Tempos singing "See You in September" but I know I don't have to wait that long. Do I? I've gone back but I seem to be in a big circle. I'm thinking I missed an option but they all seem to be redded out. Just tell me there is a way out from here and I'll work on it.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 11 2013 07:26 PM

Seems to me the bar for the Mind Melt is set too high.... sick
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 11 2013 08:48 PM

I'm having fun with chapter 3. But, of course, I just got here...
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 11 2013 09:29 PM

It gets less fun after a while, meathead.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 11 2013 10:07 PM

I'm almost done with it and ready to leave. Lol. wink
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 12:52 AM

CmdrK - there is definitely an escape hatch.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 01:19 AM

Getting very Dizzy going around and around in circles
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 04:29 AM

Originally Posted By: gracious1
Seems to me the bar for the Mind Melt is set too high.... sick


I think so for the Pot of Gold!? laugh
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 04:52 AM

I think so for neither. PoG has different topics over the week, so it is important to make your best subjects count - if you can't tell Michael Jordan from Michael Schumacher, Sunday likely won't be your qualifying score but you might do much better on another day smile

Grace - the Mind Melt you are stuck at is just one of multiple possible ways to advance where you are. A different path could be much more suitable for you.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 05:13 AM

GM Madness... that score is not moving down, aaargh! PoG was okay, Smartest, Piece of Cake, Heroes - all you have to do is wait for the right topic and you'll get there. But Madness questions are so random and obscure it's worse than Obscurity - and that target is very high.

/today's moaning ends.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 07:30 AM

*has it from well informed Olympian sources that Apollo is not happy with Flopsy's progress*
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 07:40 AM

Tell Apollo to take a hike round the sun!

Or better still, he can play that blooming game for me. grin
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 08:22 AM

You know, you might want to show a slightly more deferential attitude to one of those who will decide on your eventual Ascension. You might even want to go and offer some penance, erm... about... now smile
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 08:52 AM

You're enjoying this, Wesley, I can tell you like making rabbits squirm. I went, no one was accepting any penance, pennies, or even Euros. And no one was reducing that score either! tongue
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 12 2013 08:56 AM

Did you try pesos?

I already know I'm going to struggle with this next task I'm at... But if I don't succeed, there are other options. wink
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 06:08 AM

Admin note: For those currently on a "Smartest" requirement - I am aware of the question pool change and that it will most likely affect scores. Please allow me until Friday afternoon to see how scores play out. I will then make some provisional adjustments to targets to bridge the time until I can get fully vetted 7 to 14 day stats to decide the final new target scores with.

In the meantime, all AQ players can help me by playing as much Smartest as possible - the more scores I have, the better my estimates.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 07:52 AM

I'd forgetten about these changes. I played 'Animals' earlier, and thought the questions seemed a bit less familiar. I achieved the target I needed for AQ, with a couple of lucky guesses, but I'll try to play as many as I can to help you, Wes.
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 10:39 AM

Wes, I've just clicked something I had no intention of clicking on! I've sent you a PM. Thanks!
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 01:08 PM

"[redacted]"

So easy. :p I've been trying to do that for 2 days. I've been around and around so many times I don't see how I could have missed anything in this chapter. I'm getting tired of that stoned-out witch, too. smile

Is there a sequence that has to be done in precise order or else you have to begin again?
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 01:28 PM

I guess griping will make it so. I've found my way farther along.

Wes, you have made an awesome game! I wanted to say that now because after a few more chapters like this one, I might be tempted to say something else. laugh
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 01:34 PM

Please everyone be careful you don't accidentally post clues from the game here - it would give away information others still need to find themselves.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 01:40 PM

Sorry
Posted by: Johnsnow

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Admin note: For those currently on a "Smartest" requirement - I am aware of the question pool change and that it will most likely affect scores. Please allow me until Friday afternoon to see how scores play out. I will then make some provisional adjustments to targets to bridge the time until I can get fully vetted 7 to 14 day stats to decide the final new target scores with.

In the meantime, all AQ players can help me by playing as much Smartest as possible - the more scores I have, the better my estimates.



I was wondering why it was day 8 of me not going anywhere due to the "Smartest" requirement. I usually don't play the hourly game that often anyway. I figured I'd get an easier set of questions sooner or later, or the requirement would decrease. I love the challenge of the high requirement. When I finally achieve progress, it will be that much more satisfying. Don't make it too easy. Make us work for it...
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Johnsnow
I was wondering why it was day 8 of me not going anywhere due to the "Smartest" requirement. I usually don't play the hourly game that often anyway. I figured I'd get an easier set of questions sooner or later, or the requirement would decrease. I love the challenge of the high requirement. When I finally achieve progress, it will be that much more satisfying. Don't make it too easy. Make us work for it...


The pool change happened yesterday, unless I've misunderstood something. I would imagine that you being stuck for a week was (no offense) due to you not particularly excelling at Smartest, combined with a difficult score.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 02:09 PM

Same reason I'll be stuck on my task for the next week or two. wink
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 02:11 PM

Don't worry - the change will just adapt to the new question difficulty level. Almost all scores in AQ are based on "x% of players pass this within y games" stats, but if things suddenly get harder, I need to find new absolute numbers matching the desired x and y. Some of the requirements are close to impossible to make if you get a new-style set.

The requirement you are at right now should however be a decreasing one - slowly, but decreasing.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 13 2013 09:43 PM

So far nothing anyone has said has helped me in the slightest. Besides, I'm going to be stuck in (wherever I am) until the point requirement drops below 500 LOL (I'm guessing that will be around Christmas or so) : )

I like the adventure though!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 16 2013 05:33 AM

...and the game has been won! daBomb619 is the first to have passed the gates of Mount Olympus and qualified himself as a full Olympian!

You can see the official confirmation here:

http://www.funtrivia.com/profile/daBomb619.html

(And wow. That was about three times faster than I expected the best to make it in. Congrats!)
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 16 2013 06:47 AM

Wow. Fantastic work daBomb and many congratulations. You give some hope to the rest of us.
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 16 2013 07:31 AM

Congratulations daBomb! I think it quite fitting that his profile lists Olympia, WA as his location smile
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 16 2013 08:19 AM

That's ironic. Perhaps because he was an Olympian all along, he had an advantage. wink
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 16 2013 08:56 AM

Wow...amazing! And here I thought he changed his location to show that he truly ascended... tongue
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 17 2013 12:37 AM

Well done dabomb! A fantastic achievement.
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 17 2013 01:27 AM

Congratulations!
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 17 2013 05:38 AM

Congratulations from me as well. I'm still stuck in the prologue, but I hope to be able to get out of it one of these days. Sometimes you have time to play FT only a couple of hours a day total because life is too busy, but that's just the way things go. smile
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 17 2013 05:02 PM

I finally made it out of the prologue!!! Yippee.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 17 2013 06:28 PM

Congrats, Sue... You're on your way!
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 18 2013 05:19 AM

I love that the current page I'm on lists the scores of the attempts that I have made to get through that section. Yes, I am stuck again, but it won't be for long. Wes, thanks so much for putting this one together.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 18 2013 09:21 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
...and the game has been won! daBomb619 is the first to have passed the gates of Mount Olympus and qualified himself as a full Olympian!

You can see the official confirmation here:

http://www.funtrivia.com/profile/daBomb619.html

(And wow. That was about three times faster than I expected the best to make it in. Congrats!)




Oh Wow, this is incredible, well done DaBomb, congratulations!! smile

I'm still stuck in chapter 3, probably for another month or so, haha smirk
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 20 2013 05:56 AM

Congratulations to Eyhung, who has also Ascended to the pantheon of gods.
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 20 2013 08:46 AM

Very well done eyhung!
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 20 2013 08:55 AM

Many congratulations! I'm just glad to be out of the prologue!
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 20 2013 05:11 PM

The Hydra in chapter 2 has me twisted in knots. It seems I've been here for weeks. This is still so much fun though!
Posted by: portgleep

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 22 2013 02:45 PM

Quick question - on the Ascension badges on winners' profiles, it shows a rank. What are these ranks?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Jun 22 2013 04:42 PM

I suppose we will learn when we reach that point. smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 23 2013 01:38 AM

It just adds to the intrigue of the game. I'm hoping to find out myself, one day.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 23 2013 05:15 AM

These ranks are post-victory side quests. You start at XVII and work your way to I.
Posted by: postcards2go

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 23 2013 08:59 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
These ranks are post-victory side quests. You start at XVII and work your way to I.


In other words, the end isn't the end tongue
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 23 2013 11:19 AM

It ain't over 'til it's over...and even then, who knows? smile
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 23 2013 12:56 PM

I've paused for a few weeks, while on the badgelet that has a stag on it. This is a bit weird to ask, I know, but I've become very attached to the stag badgelet and don't fancy the others ones as much.

I don't suppose there could be an option to choose our favourite badgelet to keep when we've finally completed the entire game? Instead of everyone ending up with the same one?

I know. It's a bit daft, but... it would be nice. And if you don't ask..etc.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jun 23 2013 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Chavs
I've paused for a few weeks, while on the badgelet that has a stag on it. This is a bit weird to ask, I know, but I've become very attached to the stag badgelet and don't fancy the others ones as much.

I don't suppose there could be an option to choose our favourite badgelet to keep when we've finally completed the entire game? Instead of everyone ending up with the same one?

I know. It's a bit daft, but... it would be nice. And if you don't ask..etc.


I kind of like the idea. I would suggest that if it is added, there's something on the badgelet to show that you have completed Ascension - otherwise people might get confused ("what? they've completed it? but it says they're only on chapter 3!"). Something like a gold border or even just "XIV" written on it would work.

But I suppose with 14 different chapters, 17 side-quests and only 800 people even being able to start Ascension, there'll be quite a lot of variety on people's profiles anyway.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 24 2013 12:16 PM

There may have been only about 800 people eligible to start Ascension Quest at the first day, but anyone who reaches level 100 can still enter. Even in some years from now there may be room for new competitors.
Posted by: Ghosttowner

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 24 2013 01:21 PM

Have past my first two weeks of my sentence at the Madness on Level 4. Strange thing, every morning I still hope that for some weird reason the requirement will start dropping! Alas, not yet! LOL And the beat goes on!
Posted by: nmerr

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 24 2013 01:29 PM

I am stuck at having to attain 7500 points to move on in the Ascension Quest. I can't play enough to reach that score although I play every day. How can I move past this obstacle?
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 24 2013 04:03 PM

nmerr,

You may not want to try the Ascension Quest if you can never hit 7500. That requirement used to be 20,000, and it was lowered to three sets of 7,500 to allow people with less time to play to be able to take part. That said, not every challenge or game is for everyone. I know that I will be one of the people to take the long route doing the Ascension Quest, and I accept that and am savoring every step of the way. Consider whether you want to do the game that way, playing when you have the time to dedicate to it, and not worrying about it when you don't. If not, then this would probably not be a good fit. There are many other activities here that lend themselves to players with less time to dedicate to them. I hope you find a way to take part in the Quest.

Sue
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 24 2013 04:14 PM

Thanks rossian, I managed to complete the quest the day before I went on vacation so haven't been on the site that much recently. Good luck to everyone else on the Quest!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jun 24 2013 04:15 PM

That's what I call excellent timing, Eyhung!
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 25 2013 11:11 AM

Originally Posted By: nmerr
I am stuck at having to attain 7500 points to move on in the Ascension Quest. I can't play enough to reach that score although I play every day. How can I move past this obstacle?


You need to have TIME to play to reach endurance scores - 7500 isn't an unreasonable goal.

To maximise your points over time:

First play every daily game possible, then play every hourly game possible - every hour - and in between play quizzes.

You'll be amazed at how quick that 7500 comes around.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jun 25 2013 11:12 AM

AND remember to rate every quiz you play - every 5 quizzes rated gives you another 100 points!
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 26 2013 01:49 PM

I am trapped in the vicious circle of chapter 3. One of the tasks is to get 10,000points in a day, which I did yesterday. Then there was a short wait. Now I've gotten back to needing 10,000 points in a day again. Is it my wrong choices? I thought I went to the Ascension page yesterday after getting the required points. I will be plugging along to another 10,000 points today unless the guardian takes pity on me. By the way, this is still fun and better than being at work!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 26 2013 02:27 PM

You did walk around quite a bit today. Are you sure you've explored all your options? smile
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 26 2013 03:00 PM

I thought I explored everything. The only think I didn't do was click on the one with the red letter warning of a very long wait! Do I have to get 10,000 points again today?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 26 2013 03:08 PM

I can't answer that smile
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 26 2013 03:12 PM

I tried! Never hurts to ask!
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 26 2013 03:27 PM

Keep the faith, golfmom! You'll get there.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 27 2013 09:18 AM

Thank you, Chavs, for the encouragement! I'm not giving up and I'm glad there is no set time limit to finish! laugh
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 27 2013 09:53 AM

This is positively evil! Thank you!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 27 2013 09:58 AM

I'm still stuck on 3 too, Golfmom, but I'm stuck at a daily game target. For some reason, my scores have all been roughly the same.... 1400-1530, which is about 30 points too short. wink
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 27 2013 10:01 AM

Golfmom, I take it you found the answer - now you know why I couldn't answer your question smile
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 27 2013 12:31 PM

Yes, I found the answer, quite sneaky! Now I wish I had chosen a different task! Oh well, must keep plugging along!
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 27 2013 12:34 PM

I wish I had just a daily game to conquer now that I've found my way!
Back to work!
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 28 2013 07:40 AM

Gotta tell you folks ... the updating of the question database with new questions has made some of the tasks that were quite doable a few weeks ago almost impossible now. I'm stuck at one right now and it may take a long time to get past it while it was old hat just recently.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 28 2013 08:01 AM

Fixed the two you are stuck on - they were indeed now a bit rude smile (I really need to make myself a list of which game is used where - totally missed that segment in the last update)
Posted by: WorldB

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 28 2013 08:54 AM

And here I was going to foolishly say how I completed the quest with familiar questions just after posting here. grin

Thanks for the assist Wes.
Posted by: maninmidohio

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 03 2013 08:04 AM

I have been enjoying the Quest, but I seem to have reached an impasse. I am in Chapter 4 and I have reached a challenge dealing with Gold Member Madness. The target assigned is extremely high for this game (most games are won with no one reaching this score). That would not have been a problem in earlier challenges along the Quest, but this is the first time that the target is not dropping. I have been here now for over two weeks and still face this very high target. If this is how it is meant to be, I will continue to play Gold Member Madness (it is actually one of my favorite games and I do score well on it, just not this well) and some day I will reach this magic number.
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 03 2013 08:11 AM

Keep trying! I was at the same hurdle for about 10 days, and then got just the right combination of question (or sheer luck). I, too, was waiting in vain for that number to change, but it out-stubborned me. smile

Good luck!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 03 2013 10:44 AM

Originally Posted By: maninmidohio
The target assigned is extremely high for this game (most games are won with no one reaching this score).


May I once again mention the fourth FAQ entry? smile
Posted by: Ghosttowner

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 03 2013 06:55 PM

I wish I had remembered FAQ entry four first - not check after over 3 weeks! :-)
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 06:11 PM

Not sure this is the faq page you folks are talking about... but just in case folks have forgotten how to navigate to one of them, here's a link..

http://www.funtrivia.com/faq.cfm?system=4
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 07:17 PM

There is also a link right beside the link to play Ascension Quest in the Gold Members section of the home page. I see it every time I play, since I can't use the dropdown list from Games to get there - that list is so long that Ascension Quest is offscreen on my laptop.
Posted by: Jakeroo

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 08:03 PM

I'm with you on that one Looney. My games list doesn't go past "Team Heroes". I realise this is no doubt my fault as I'm using a Sony laptop which doesn't allow me to change the resolution to something much smaller. So instead, because we have the ability as Gold members, I've set up direct menu links to whatever page I want. But still, it's kind of annoying to have to do that and that practice can make for a very lonnnng list of menu choices lol. It would be nicer if the games list would "scroll" instead of sitting there pretty much stagnant.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 08:56 PM

Girlies, if you hold the Ctrl key, then scroll your mouse wheel, you can increase or decrease the size of the font to allow you to pack more onto your screen. See if that works.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 09:03 PM

Or just do CTRL + - for shrinking and CTRL + + for enlarging.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 09:13 PM

My laptop doesn't have a mouse wheel. Anyway, I like the font size as it is, and am prepared to cope with the fact that some things are a bit awkward. When I change the zoom to make more fit on the screen at once, it becomes just that little bit more difficult for my aging shortsighted eyes to read clearly. Every once in a while I do something unwittingly to change it, and immediately scramble to make it the 'right' size again. smile
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 09:29 PM

Actually there's another way. The up and down arrow keys work. Mouseover the "Games" menu, then use the "down" arrow. Should work. smile It works for me.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 04 2013 11:02 PM

Now THAT works a treat - thanks for the suggestion.
Posted by: Mariamir

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jul 05 2013 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
Now THAT works a treat - thanks for the suggestion.


Awesome and you're welcome! Glad it worked. smile

Sorry for hijacking the thread.
Posted by: JanIQ

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Jul 28 2013 04:32 AM

Blimey, I think I fell into a trapdoor.

Let's ruminate a while. I have an escape option, but maybe patience will get me some extra benefit.

Meanwhile I can still look at a fine stag for a while.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 02:34 PM

frown Hmmm, I've been stuck on an Expert Game for 4 (yes 4!!!) days.
The requirement is so high, it's very difficult to achieve at the moment, due to the change of question pool etc.
crazy At first it was 1450, it has meanwhile dropped down to 1430.
1450 was rather hard EVEN BEFORE the changes, but would've been ok on one's good topics.
I've played a few of my good topics since, and the best I was able to achieve something like 1385
I might have taken the wrong turn, seeing as the requirement is so high (nobody else is stuck here), so it might not be ment to be beaten.
But there is NO WAY OUT!?
I want out - help cry cry cry
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 04:53 PM

If the target is dropping, that means it is not a dead end. All you can do is keep playing, and wait until the target drops to one of the scores you have already achieved. (The target works retrospectively, as long as you have met it after getting there. I have sometimes had to wait about a week before a target dropped to what I had achieved on one of my very first attempts. If it is dropping 5 points a day, you will have to wait no more than another 9 days, and you might well get a better score before then, anyway.) Working on these can help you improve your speed for the future. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 05:17 PM

I have just recently pulled new stats but need to change them in the game manually, stage by stage, so this will take a few days as I want to make sure I do it correctly. I did two of the most crucial late-game areas first and will tackle the rest bit by bit. Chapter 6 will certainly be among the very next on my list since it has relatively high requirements.
Posted by: fredsixties

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 07:45 PM

Could be worse. I'm stuck on Monster for two weeks without a perfect score. I may be here for months. frown
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 08:18 PM

Take the time to do some research for Monster - without Google, I might never have found the Treasure. smile
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
If the target is dropping, that means it is not a dead end. All you can do is keep playing, and wait until the target drops to one of the scores you have already achieved. (The target works retrospectively, as long as you have met it after getting there. I have sometimes had to wait about a week before a target dropped to what I had achieved on one of my very first attempts. If it is dropping 5 points a day, you will have to wait no more than another 9 days, and you might well get a better score before then, anyway.) Working on these can help you improve your speed for the future. smile


Yes, Looney, I was stuck on some daily games for over a week sometimes, and I wasn't too bothered about it (well, I was, but I knew I just wasn't good enough on those, and had to wait, as you only get 1 attempt a day), but to be stuck for so long on an hourly game seems very long, I thought (as I said, I played quite a few of my good topics, and had approximately 28 attempts in total).
Yes, at one point (another 9 days), it'll have dropped enough to move on, but for an hourly game it seems a bit harsh. frown

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
I have just recently pulled new stats but need to change them in the game manually, stage by stage, so this will take a few days as I want to make sure I do it correctly. I did two of the most crucial late-game areas first and will tackle the rest bit by bit. Chapter 6 will certainly be among the very next on my list since it has relatively high requirements.


Yay, lets hope the one I'm stuck is one of those smile


Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 11:09 PM

The one I spent a lot of time waiting on was also an hourly game - but since I have NEVER managed 23 seconds in Piece of Cake, let alone since the new database has been in use, I knew I just had to wait until the required time met what I am capable of doing, and get in some practice to recognise the new questions in my favourite categories more quickly again.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 11:11 PM

I was stuck in one game for about two weeks. It's just a question of patience, I suppose.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 31 2013 11:35 PM

lol yes, patience has always been my weakness smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 01 2013 12:51 AM

Thanks for reviewing the targets, Wes. I appreciate the work you have done, especially having to repeat some of it when you thought you'd finished.

Patience isn't one of my virtues either, Froggy, and this game is testing the little I have to the limit.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 01 2013 02:09 AM

I was stuck on one and then went on holiday for a fortnight and when I got back score had reduced enough for a previous score to have counted and for me to continue on my way. Sometimes the only option is to wait and depending on the scores you normally get the wait could be a while.

Where I am now I will have to wait about 13 days for a score I have in the bag to count, in the meantime I continue to play in case I get lucky.

Still enjoying the trip even though I do have the odd swear about things to myself.
Posted by: fredsixties

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 01 2013 04:43 AM

I don't think Monster reduces, I think you simply have to get a perfect score no matter how long it takes.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 01 2013 05:41 AM

Yeah, Monster Game isn't a score that will reduce. Looney nailed it for a hint in case you need to reduce the difficulty of that game a bit smile
Posted by: lorance79

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 01 2013 06:38 AM

I'm spending about two weeks in a very tedious stage. Having to play lots of quizzes about video games and US sports teams is not endearing me to this stage! I'm sure there's a quicker way out of here, but I'm too dense to find it.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 01 2013 06:50 AM

As the saying goes, one man's trash is another's treasure... the AQ quiz selection is balanced across all categories, so it's inevitable that some will be in the areas you like least. Other players would most certainly complain if exactly these categories were excluded (but dislike those you love to play).
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Aug 04 2013 03:21 PM

Phew, finally managed to move on (not thanks to the decrease of score, but simply a good category, of which I know a bit about and is easy to practise on FT)

ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT IT WAS ALL IN VAIN cry


Originally Posted By: looney_tunes
The one I spent a lot of time waiting on was also an hourly game - but since I have NEVER managed 23 seconds in Piece of Cake, let alone since the new database has been in use, I knew I just had to wait until the required time met what I am capable of doing, and get in some practice to recognise the new questions in my favourite categories more quickly again.


I'm stuck on this one at the moment (hoping I took the right turn this time), but hopefully should be out sooner than on the Expert, fingers crossed. smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 08 2013 01:04 AM

I seem to be stuck on getting the required number of points for Pot of Gold to progress.

For the third time I get the required number of points - in the time limit required - and I'm sent back to square one.

It's very discouraging if this is all that is going to happen, every time it fulfill the requirements only to get sent back to square one and have to start yet again.

Even when I try to go back, I just get sent back to where I started and have to try and complete the task in even less time than before.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 08 2013 01:29 AM

You are progressing past Pot of Gold and then always giving up on the next stage - so it's no wonder you need to do it over. (You've done that five times in a row!). Look at that second stage again - it's a totally different (easier) game where you need to get the lesser time.

Also, please reregister for the forums with your exact FunTrivia user name - it took me several minutes of extra time to even look at your race log because I needed to figure out who you actually are on the main site.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 09:06 AM

We have a third Ascended - congrats rossian!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 09:16 AM

Congrats Rossian!
Posted by: nannywoo

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 09:24 AM

I think solving a combination lock that involved numbers was my high point so far on Fun Trivia! Hey, I was an English major, and I never thought I'd get it. When I actually achieved it, I was dancing around the house. Then I went on to get 21000 points to get another challenge done. Yesterday was a good day. Woo Hoo!
Posted by: mikey40uf

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 11:06 AM

The day I got the 21000 point challenge, I was already working on a "Nemesis" daily challenge... Two birds with one stone
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 11:28 AM

Thanks Wes and Salami. I think it's fair to say that I didn't take the motorway/
autobahn/freeway, but took what we in the UK would call the 'pretty route'. This involved various detours, only some of which were intended, various cul-de-sacs and false trails, many of which just brought me back to my starting point. I loved every minute, although I did run out of pins to stick in my effigy of Wes.
Posted by: flopsymopsy

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 11:50 AM

Don't worry, Rossian, I have plenty of pins so will carry on with the sticking. wink

Congratulations on getting through! *applauds!*
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 12:21 PM

Congratulations Rossian!
Posted by: spanishliz

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 02:25 PM

Well done, Rossian!
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 09 2013 08:29 PM

Well done rossian smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Aug 10 2013 12:03 AM

Thanks everyone. I'm still finding it hard to believe I've done it.
Posted by: mcsurfie

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Aug 10 2013 12:50 AM

Yet again I have got the required number of points in the time limit require on the easier stage of 16 questions right (1400 points)in 200 seconds in Pot of Gold, and then find I have to get 18 right in 100 seconds. The part I am getting stuck on.

I was under the impression that the go back to where I started option would allow the player to try a different route, but I just keep getting returned to the same place.
Posted by: AdamM7

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Aug 10 2013 01:16 AM

Originally Posted By: mcsurfie
Yet again I have got the required number of points in the time limit require on the easier stage of 16 questions right (1400 points)in 200 seconds in Pot of Gold, and then find I have to get 18 right in 100 seconds. The part I am getting stuck on.

I was under the impression that the go back to where I started option would allow the player to try a different route, but I just keep getting returned to the same place.


The FAQ says:

Originally Posted By: FAQ
What's with those 'go back' links?

The "Go back" links are meant as a way to leave a place whose challenge you currently cannot or do not want to complete, often to try an alternate path (which may be better or worse). Their effect can be anything from restarting a complete fight to actually advancing you past an obstacle that is meant not to be overcome, so pay close attention to any text in those links and the way you got to the point you are now at before using one.

Also remember that going back and later returning to the same stage will reset everything you have done there so far. Wait timers will reset, a score already decreased will return to its original value and a quiz you may have begun writing will no longer count. Use caution and make sure that what you do is really what you want to do.


Sometimes the go back links will send you back, like the name suggests. Sometimes you'll get an alternate path or it'll just advance you straight forward (according to the FAQ - I've not been lucky enough to stumble across anything like that yet), but not always.

If you use the link once, and it sends you back to the start, I think you can presume (at least in the earlier stages) that using it again will do the same thing - especially if you try it 4 times more and it still sends you back.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Aug 10 2013 02:14 AM

It seems you have advanced through that second stage now - it's not really more difficult since the new score is on a totally different game.

And yes, what Adam said - a link will not behave differently unless you've changed something. Looping through the same three stages multiple times won't lead to an exit.

I'm also telling you all a small secret: "Go back" links are never dynamic or variable. (If you think there's an exception to that somewhere: It isn't. There's something else about that area.)
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Aug 20 2013 02:22 AM

Where I am currently located (I can add further details if you wish, either here or by PM) the text says I have to play Fill Me In and get a certain score, but the link provided actually goes to Who's the Smartest.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 03:33 AM

Since I've been asked for some stats, here's the current distribution of Questians across the game:

Ascended - 3
Chapter 12 - 5
Chapter 11 - 2
Chapter 10 - 2
Chapter 9 - 8
Chapter 8 - 1
Chapter 7 - 19
Chapter 6 - 26
Chapter 5 - 16
Chapter 4 - 64
Chapter 3 - 64
Chapter 2 - 52
Chapter 1 - 78
Prologue - 132
Posted by: Aedan57

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 09:15 AM

I've been reading through the posts and there were quite a few about specific stages of the AQ but I am really stuck at a challenge that seems truly unattainable, for me.
I'm at the "Fill In" challenge and the bar is set so high I know I'll never reach it.
I haven't seen any other players come even close to the necessary score although I'm aware some players have finished the quest.
My question is if the bar will be lowered for this game, I'm into my third day and so far no lowering.
I'm leery of going back and having to play all the challenges I'm already managed to surmount only to be stuck here again but I wonder if this particular challenge is meant to be seen as impossible (for me anyway) and force me to go a different route.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 09:25 AM

If the score hasn't lowered after 24 hours of you being there, then it won't lower.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 12:49 PM

There are some points where the unattainable target is a sign that you should go back and try another approach. There are alternative ways to get past the essential tasks, as far as I have seen, although I know that I did miss something useful but not essential on one level. You have to make the decision but, as Buddy1 said, the targets that drop do so, even if only marginally, after you have been there trying for 24 hours. My only suggestion would be that you may actually need to make some doomed attempts before it will start falling. If you try a couple of hours, and nothing has changed 24 hours later, I would give up and go back.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 12:51 PM

Reading the FAQ again, particularly number four, will also help.
Posted by: Aedan57

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 02:10 PM

Thanks all for the feedback, it's what I was thinking the answer was.
Time to go in a new direction!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 21 2013 05:46 PM

You definitely originally picked the choice of the courageous hero... but certainly not the wise one smile
Posted by: Aedan57

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 22 2013 08:28 AM

Fool's do indeed rush in smile
Still, enjoyed the attempt & certainly surprised myself making it that far!
Posted by: Emma058

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 22 2013 05:49 PM

I am finding the 7th stage very daunting. I feel like the dog chasing his tail. Round and round in circles. I keep coming back to the same place.
Whoever devised this maze, kudos.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 22 2013 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Emma058
I am finding the 7th stage very daunting. I feel like the dog chasing his tail. Round and round in circles. I keep coming back to the same place.
Whoever devised this maze, kudos.


I drew a very elaborate map while solving it. wink
Posted by: zorba_scank

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 22 2013 08:36 PM

Me too. Once I had the map in place, it was pretty smooth sailing. smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 23 2013 12:32 AM

I agree that the map idea is a good suggestion. This was one of my favourite levels of the game.
Posted by: playmate1111

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Aug 24 2013 04:10 AM

I need more than a map, I need a miracle or two wink
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Aug 24 2013 12:08 PM

It must have taken quite a while to put together some of these twisted puzzles.
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Aug 25 2013 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
It must have taken quite a while to put together some of these twisted puzzles.


I agree - a lot of effort has gone into this game.

A map definitely helped in Chapter 7 tho - I would have been going round in circles for years if I hadn't done it. So many places look the same otherwise. It finally took me 2 weeks to realise that there was one place I hadn't discovered yet...
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Aug 25 2013 12:12 PM

Although I'm not on Chapter 7 yet, I have experienced what sounds like something similar in Chapter 3.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Aug 25 2013 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Lones78
I agree - a lot of effort has gone into this game.

Wait til you see level 12! There are so many curiously interesting challenges here.


Originally Posted By: Buddy1
Although I'm not on Chapter 7 yet, I have experienced what sounds like something similar in Chapter 3.

No, you haven't wink

You will soon though!
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
Originally Posted By: Lones78
I agree - a lot of effort has gone into this game.

Wait til you see level 12! There are so many curiously interesting challenges here.




I think I would go for 'head banging on a wall' challenges. Just when I think I've solved something it turns out I haven't LOL
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 05:40 AM

I found a (non-revolving) door in level 7 and felt so brave to turn the lever, just to be confronted with a really difficult task (for me anyway) and will probably be stuck here for a while. Can anybody tell me who's completed this level if this was the correct way to go (there is no way out)? crazy
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 06:22 AM

Originally Posted By: froggyx
I found a (non-revolving) door in level 7 and felt so brave to turn the lever, just to be confronted with a really difficult task (for me anyway) and will probably be stuck here for a while. Can anybody tell me who's completed this level if this was the correct way to go (there is no way out)? crazy


You'll probably hit every room of that maze before you get out. wink
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 06:46 AM

Originally Posted By: froggyx
I found a (non-revolving) door in level 7 and felt so brave to turn the lever, just to be confronted with a really difficult task (for me anyway) and will probably be stuck here for a while. Can anybody tell me who's completed this level if this was the correct way to go (there is no way out)? crazy


You will be able to answer this yourself after a day. If the lever (and its associated score) is stuck, you can draw your conclusions from that. If it's loosening the more you tug at it, you can draw a different conclusion...
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 08:25 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Originally Posted By: froggyx
I found a (non-revolving) door in level 7 and felt so brave to turn the lever, just to be confronted with a really difficult task (for me anyway) and will probably be stuck here for a while. Can anybody tell me who's completed this level if this was the correct way to go (there is no way out)? crazy


You will be able to answer this yourself after a day. If the lever (and its associated score) is stuck, you can draw your conclusions from that. If it's loosening the more you tug at it, you can draw a different conclusion...



smile Ooohh all that tugging seems to have helped, the score has just dropped considerably - at this rate I might be able to move on soon (tomorrow perhaps) and won't have to spend too much time here, so even if I made the wrong decision it won't be too bad
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Midget40
I think I would go for 'head banging on a wall' challenges. Just when I think I've solved something it turns out I haven't LOL

I've played these sorts of mind games, years ago, and managed to get those. There is of course a Certain Other Task where I just have to roll up my sleeves and do it though.
Posted by: tootie0406

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 10:35 PM

I'm trapped in level 7 and I need a map, a miracle, a bourbon, a scotch and a beer because I don't know what to do next.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Aug 28 2013 11:23 PM

Originally Posted By: tootie0406
I'm trapped in level 7 and I need a map, a miracle, a bourbon, a scotch and a beer because I don't know what to do next.

Draw a map, label it carefully, and use it to make sure you have visited every room. It took me a while to work out what the map looked like, but after that life became a lot simpler.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Sep 05 2013 10:03 AM

I'm in Chapter 6, looking at a red box and waiting for it to change to green. How long do I have to wait? I achieved yesterday's goal at about 11:00 PM, FT time. Do I have to wait until 11:00 tonight to continue? Hope not. There's some text at the bottom of the page: No. Value is currently 2 Debug script?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Sep 05 2013 10:30 AM

You need to advance away from where you currently are to get the green box. Right now, you should have only one possible link. (I'll leave the debug message to Terry... we still seem to have some in there.)

Edit: Added a little more text that should make the situation clearer - I hope.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Sep 05 2013 11:02 AM

It does. I was unsure where that link would take me before you added the text. Thanks, Wes.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 07:38 PM

I guess I'm the first to say it: nice going, pagea.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 08:45 PM

It took me a while to figure out what you meant by that. Congratulations pagea for winning the Ascended mega-badge!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 08:47 PM

It took me a while to figure out what you meant by that. Congratulations pagea for winning the Ascended mega-badge!

EDIT: Oops! Didn't realize I posted this twice.
Posted by: Anton

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 10:07 PM

I knew this was a bug the first time before I went back and redid every step in chapter four. I've done everything there is to do. I've visited every place and done everything they told me to do. I've copied every single word into my notes and yet it still says I don't have everything.

I guess it is time to give up because there is nothing more I can do.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 10:39 PM

If you have all the information, and have interpreted it correctly, you should have no trouble breezing through the maze and out. Possibly you need to look more closely at your notes to see if they contain more information than you have yet detected.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 11:22 PM

As someone who has completed Chapter 4, let me tell you that if you have all copied down all letters and all colors and all the text, you will be able to complete the chapter. I was able to do so, only one attempt needed for each part of the latter section of Chapter 4.
Posted by: ozzz2002

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Sep 15 2013 11:26 PM

Colours? Geez, back to ye olde drawing board!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Sep 16 2013 12:36 AM

Well done to pagea for completing the challenge. It's getting more crowded up here by the day, but there's still room for plenty more & we'd like the company.

To those still struggling - it can be done. I took a more circuitous route myself than the first two to finish, but all roads lead to Rome (er, Mount Olympus) eventually.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Sep 16 2013 02:17 AM

I think that sometimes there are too many clues given out in this thread whether they are intentional or not.

Wesley can choose to hand out some information if he chooses but this is a challenge for people to work out on their own not to be given clues on how to solve things.

You either solve them eventually by trying different things or you don't get to ascend.

I've been very frustrated at a number of levels (and still am LOL) but I eventually figured them out by carefully looking over everything again.

I haven't ascended yet but when I do I want to get there on my own - and I want others to as well.
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Sep 16 2013 10:06 AM

Thanks everyone and thanks to Wes to putting the whole thing together. Fantastic!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Sep 20 2013 01:26 PM

Congratulations to Nautilator, who has become the fifth person to complete the course.
Posted by: pagea

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Sep 20 2013 06:52 PM

Congratulations nautilator!
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Sep 26 2013 10:31 PM

Buddy--I agree! I'm on Chapter 3 now and I keep think of Blair Witch Project!
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 09:49 AM

I've got a question about Chapter 6, as I've got to the end of it - how do I get in touch with people and who should I get in touch with to share the info?
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 10:03 AM

You send a private message on the other side of the side, Kankurette. You can choose anyone who you know has passed that stage.
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 11:52 AM

Only a team member though isn't it?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 12:17 PM

If it's where I think it is, then no. CmdrK PMed me a message regarding the quest even though he's not on my team.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 12:19 PM

It also says 'fellow players who are in the same situation'. My interpretation, and that of the earliest players to reach that stage, was that we were 'team mates' in the quest.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 12:27 PM

You can cooperate on this particular item with anyone who has passed the same position. Since everyone can only get one of the three information items, it's inevitable that three adventurers (and possibly more, in case some picked the same information) need cooperate on that one bit.

It's optional information by the way - you don't need all three or even one to pass the course. It may just be helpful.
Posted by: gracious1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 08 2013 03:54 PM

Sudoku???? shocked cry frown mad tongue sick
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 02:49 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
You can cooperate on this particular item with anyone who has passed the same position. Since everyone can only get one of the three information items, it's inevitable that three adventurers (and possibly more, in case some picked the same information) need cooperate on that one bit.

It's optional information by the way - you don't need all three or even one to pass the course. It may just be helpful.



crazy Phew glad to hear, because I wasn't quite sure what it meant at the time, so just carried on without any contact. (Although, I might need it later? crazy )
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 03:59 AM

There are Questians, there are Ascended and then there are those for whom merely "Ascended" is not enough.

As you might already have guessed from the "Rank" display on the Ascended badge, there's an add-on challenge at the end of the game. One that was meant to be practically impossible to complete, even for the best of the best.

Trust the FunTrivia community to prove me wrong on what is impossible.

http://www.funtrivia.com/profile.cfm?player=eyhung

Rank I. Congratulations indeed.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 04:27 AM

It is indeed the nearest thing to impossible. Congratulations on your achievement, Eyhung.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 10:13 AM

Wow rank one... Thought it was impossible. Well done eyhung. smile
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 11:09 AM

Thanks eyhung, now I can't complain about their difficulty :Ž

Nice going smile
Posted by: eyhung

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 11:26 AM

Thanks everyone. Boy, that was hard! I thought it was impossible too at first.

Nautilator -- would you believe that it used to be harder than it is now?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: eyhung
Nautilator -- would you believe that it used to be harder than it is now?


Harder for some, easier for others. It all depends on your strengths and weaknesses.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 09 2013 08:44 PM

Like 'never managed to accomplish the whole time I've been here' hard? But I am working on them, not necessarily in a hurry now.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 12:19 PM

I'm now on Level 7 and am getting a bit dizzy as I seem to keep wandering into a loop. Having a poor sense of direction does not help.

ETA: I think I'm going to have to declare the whole quest a write-off for now, as there is no way I can get out. Every single route I go has been done. frown If anyone has any advice, please PM me cos I really do not know what to do. I'm not asking for cheats, I just don't know how to do levels like this as I have problems with directions (hope this doesn't spoil anyone too much).
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 01:09 PM

If every single route you go to had been done you would be out of there smilee

The only advice I can give you - which isn't giving anything away - is to draw a map so you know where you have been and where you haven't.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 01:17 PM

I'm going to need a very large piece of paper! laugh I keep going over the sides whenever I draw maps.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 01:21 PM

Just do it methodically. The maze is a square and so are all locations in it. A 12 by 12 grid is more than enough to contain all of it. (No, I'm not saying the exact size)
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 02:14 PM

Actually, thanks for that - that really helps, I thought it was some kind of weird shape with loads of sides.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 03:22 PM

I guess that one was worth a new FAQ entry (just added). Not the first time a player had problems finding their way or mapping the maze.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 13 2013 03:23 PM

I remember feeling the same, Kankurette, but it made sense once I plotted it out logically.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 14 2013 11:44 AM

It is definitely starting to make sense now, and I'm glad cos I'm really enjoying this game, even if Chapter 3 did make me want to tear my hair out (I failed miserably the first time!)
Posted by: Anton

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 15 2013 04:13 PM

I wish there was a page that says what badges we need to complete this thing. Had I known from the start we need the [bleep] badge, I wouldn't have even bothered with this.
Posted by: kyleisalive

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 15 2013 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: AntonLaVey
I wish there was a page that says what badges we need to complete this thing. Had I known from the start we need the [bleep] badge, I wouldn't have even bothered with this.


*SPOILERS*

wink


In the early stages of the game (the FAQs?) there is mention that the game will take into account many different facets of FT from quiz-playing to authoring and everything in between and that it would not be easy, even for high-level players. Not to mention the slew of badge requirements at the beginning of the game let alone the very, very end.

On the same note, there's a point mid-way through the quest that actually encourages you to speak to another member about the fact that you need the [bleep] badge (and a couple others, if I recall), so it shouldn't have been completely out of left-field if you've been keeping notes. I believe that one was stated in Chapter 7 (or 8).

As the FAQs say: "Designed to challenge those who have solved most of the challenges on the site."

Both posts edited to kill a spoiler
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 15 2013 04:51 PM

Anton, in reply to this, I'm telling you that you have a way to complete the game without earning any additional badges. Being [bleep] doesn't necessarily mean to have the [bleep] badge. It may just make it a lot easier to have it.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 20 2013 04:54 AM

Congratulations to MikeMaster99, the latest player to reach the Ascended ranks. Well done, Mike.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 20 2013 05:13 AM

Well done Mike and to think we were side by side a month or so ago. At least it gives me something to aim for still.
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 20 2013 07:25 PM

Congrats Mike smile
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 21 2013 05:02 AM

Thanks very much!! A huge 'thank you' to Wes for the months of fun and occasional frustration :-)
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 21 2013 03:03 PM

I'm in Chapter 9 and had to write a quiz (one of out of nine possible options). I did so and now I am back to where I started. There was no "go back" link. In fact, they aren't any other choices between getting the quiz on-line and ending back where I started (with the nine possible options)--as in, only one link possible.
There was no indication that there's only one correct choice, so I thought it's safe to assume that any of those nine will do. Apparently not.
I guess my question is "How do I know which is right?" but I realize that question may give away too much. Maybe a PM? I looked through the notes I copied from Chapter 9 to see if there was any hint but there was none.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 21 2013 03:41 PM

I PMed you. And you did miss a hint.
Posted by: James25

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Nov 10 2013 08:47 AM

Currently at the start of Chapter 6 near the shrine. There are three options. Options 2 and 3 bring up the same text. The text I get both times is about option 2.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Nov 10 2013 10:47 AM

You might have used the back button or something similar which can make the game appear out of sync (in particular, the game will not actually advance you on a link but rather return you to the last visited place - this is a cheat prevention). Your log however shows you as not having visited any of the shrine locations more than once - you took the first option (on the 7th), then went to "do something else", then you chose the second (today).

If you can't advance away from that location, please close your browser and then call up AQ from the main page again. If that doesn't work, clear your browser cache and then return to AQ from the main page.
Posted by: James25

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Nov 10 2013 02:06 PM

I was weighing my options, so to speak ;-)

But the third option worked now.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Nov 10 2013 06:40 PM

Always use the in-game links to go back. Using the back button to undo a decision won't work.
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Nov 14 2013 06:41 PM

Congratulations to Fifiona81 who has just ascended!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Nov 15 2013 01:49 AM

Well done Fifiona, and well spotted Mike.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Nov 15 2013 08:07 AM

Remember that when you request help on a specific stage, please be vague enough that you won't spoil the game's surprises for others - or, if you need to be specific, please contact me with a PM.

I had to delete a help request from this thread today for this reason; its author please check PM for the answer.
Posted by: froggyx

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Nov 15 2013 01:41 PM

Ok, sorry Wes.
When I noticed that my post had gone, I thought it was for this reason.
Won't do it again blush

I now know my answer - can't believe 1 week wasted crazy
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 16 2013 03:57 AM

Congratulations to Midget40, the latest player to reach the exalted ranks of Ascended.
Posted by: Fifiona81

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 16 2013 04:49 AM

Originally Posted By: MikeMaster99
Congratulations to Fifiona81 who has just ascended!
Originally Posted By: rossian
Well done Fifiona, and well spotted Mike.


Thanks! And congratulations to Midget40 as well!
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 16 2013 07:17 PM

Wow, the ranks are starting to fill. (We still have some room before creating a circle of 12 though.)
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Nov 17 2013 12:52 AM

Thank you all and congrats to you too Fifiona.

And a big thanks to Wes for putting it all together.
Posted by: PDUBS1980

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 06 2013 05:11 PM

Just getting started here and finally got the initial Questian Level I badge from Heracles.

However, immediately after redeeming the badge, I do not have a link to move forward, and there is a message at the bottom that says "Invalid varjump found."

Seems like a bug and not part of the quest. I've tried logging in on both my personal and work laptop and my phone to see if it was an issue on my end but to no avail. Anyone know how I can move forward? Thanks!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 06 2013 06:47 PM

I fixed your game state - it seems you had spent a very long time on an early stage and because I had to change something along the way to fix a bug, a particular game variable had never been set for you.
Posted by: PDUBS1980

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Dec 08 2013 11:51 PM

Ahh, thank you!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 13 2013 11:48 PM

I'm at the point where I can re-do past levels and I did so. The place I'm at now has the longest wait period I have seen--several days--and there's no go back link. If I had known my points/medals didn't carry over, I wouldn't have even re-did this level. I just had to share this, but I've been thinking of a way to say it without giving too much away.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 03:29 AM

Sorry, the description clearly states that when you replay a chapter, you have to re-defeat the challenges. That's the price you pay for this opportunity - for some chapters, it's negligible, for others quite high.
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 06:06 AM

Well done, mcdubb! The latest Ascendee (assuming that's a word)
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 06:43 AM

Congratulations mcdubb.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 10:32 AM

Congratulations to all our winners so far! Quite a feat.


Originally Posted By: MikeMaster99
Well done, mcdubb! The latest Ascendee (assuming that's a word)


We'll find out Mike when it pops up in CB any day now. wink
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 10:43 AM

Wes, I think what confused me is when it said I didn't need to pass it on the first try and I could come back later. Nonetheless, I am experiencing the consequences of misunderstanding what was written (wouldn't be the first time during the quest).
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 12:31 PM

You can come back later for the badgelet - but of course in that case, you'll have to start the chapter from scratch and get the qualifying value for it in one go.
Posted by: Fifiona81

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 01:46 PM

Congrats mcdubb!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 14 2013 02:09 PM

That is what confused me. At least now I know, and there's still plenty of things on FunTrivia I can do to pass the time.

Oh, and congratulations mcdubb for ascending!
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 01:38 PM

I'd like to share something that happened recently.

Since starting the Quest in August I've been keeping extensive notes. Usually
I email myself "pertinent informtion" and then once a week or so I cut and paste the information to a Word document.

I was at a certain point on Chapter 7 where I had two options. One was to reach a certain score in a game and the other was to continue. I chose the former, to play a certain game. After about 5 unsuccessful attempts I decided to put put it aside for a while and I was working on updating my notes.

I inadvertly clicked on the second option while cutting and pasting and now I am back to a former point in the maze!

I don't really understand how this happened since I had chosen the other option and was already playing the required games. It's not like a clicked a "go back link" or chose to retreat! I wasn't even playing Funtrivia--I was cutting and pasting from my emails to Word.

Needless to say I'm very discouraged and at this point I will probably just give up on the Quest. I just wanted to let other players know.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 02:12 PM

It is a known issue that occasionally old links can possibly take you BACK in the game (but never forward, so you can't cheat). It very rarely happens though.

Wesley can return you to where you originally were in the game though, so no need to be discouraged.
Posted by: tag2371

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 05:24 PM

I must admit until now I may have made mistakes but I knew where I was and figured out what I needed to do but I am so lost now. I think I played the wrong quiz! Ah!
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 05:31 PM

I copy and paste just about every little thing in Ascension. I noticed that the links are still live after I paste them into a WP document. I clicked on one once just to see what would happen - kind of like lighting a match to look into a barrel of gasoline - but it just took me to my then-current place in the quest. I haven't tried again just in case it threw me back to a place that took me days to advance from in the first place.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 06:22 PM

I did the same thing but I did it during an exploration stage so that if whether or not it did work, I wouldn't end up doing something I regretted.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 06:26 PM

I take screenshots and keep them in a folder, nicely labeled, to keep track. Luckily with screenshots none of the links are clickable, so I've never had the clicking problem stated above. That does sound like bad luck, but if Wes can move you back to your original position that seems like a pretty nice failsafe.
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 09:39 PM

Thanks for the info, Terry. I did send Wes a message asking if it could be reset. I didn't receive reply so I assumed the answer was "No".
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 18 2013 10:42 PM

I'm sure he'd reply with a yes or no answer. Maybe he just hasn't read the message yet.
Posted by: tag2371

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 19 2013 06:58 AM

I will try to see it through and maybe it will take me back to the beginning of chapter 6. We will see. I will PM mr Crusher if things look bleak. Right now I am just feeling around in the dark but hey I am moving.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 19 2013 10:50 AM

Sally, I can't find anything untoward in your game log. You have been at the place you needed to play your game (on the 16th) and from there you moved south, just as the game should be. You've gone there again yesterday - everything looks alright and there's certainly nothing to reset.
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 19 2013 04:03 PM

Thanks for checking, Wes. Yesterday I was able to get back to where I was originally.

And thanks to all for your help. I have learned two very valuable lessons:

1) Watch out for thoe "live links" when copying and pasting
2) And mapping the Maze is a MUST!
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 19 2013 04:05 PM

oops should be "those" live links
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 19 2013 07:03 PM

Absolutely! It took me only about a couple days to get through the maze because I mapped it out. Who knows how long I would have been there if I hadn't?
When I first encountered links, I just wrote it down rather than copied & pasted. Although that changed soon after. Actually, there were several things I did differently at the beginning that I wish I hadn't done.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Dec 23 2013 07:50 AM

I've got a Word document that I save any potentially useful information in, including items I've picked up.

Also, I've just got a [spoiler - indicated a not so good result] on level 10. Oh dear. I have work later, though, so there's absolutely no way I could have gotten [spoiler - some difficult task] today!

edited for keeping the surprises - Wes
Posted by: mpkitty

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 07 2014 06:46 PM

Hello - I'm a late-bloomer here for a variety of reasons, but enjoying the quest immensely. I'm a dreamer and dream over questions, thus, not fast. I don't even have the Speed Demon badge, which everyone in the world does.
I have done quite well in the Fill Me In, should I wait until the lowering requirement catches up, or will that harm me?

Wesley, you are nothing short of a genius!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 07 2014 07:31 PM

Waiting will not harm you, so if you don't mind waiting however long you have to wait, go for it.
Posted by: mpkitty

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 07 2014 09:04 PM

Thank you, Buddy - your advice is always welcome.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 13 2014 01:08 PM

Congratulations to KayceeKool for being the 10th person to have ascended!
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 13 2014 03:27 PM

Really well done, KayceeKool!!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 14 2014 02:10 AM

Congratulations KayceeKool. It's such a tough challenge and a great feeling when you get there.
Posted by: KayceeKool

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 14 2014 08:52 AM

Thank you very much. Rossian has hit the nail on the head. It is definitely worth all the blood, sweat and tears smile

My congratulations to everyone who has already ascended and the best of luck to all of those still on their quest.

Thanks also to Wes and everyone who made this game possible.
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 14 2014 09:18 AM

Congratulations KcK...wonderful achievement my dear teammate! And of course to the others who have made it through. Well done all!!
Posted by: stedman

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 27 2014 03:37 AM

Phew! Finished!

I can't say I enjoyed absolutely every minute of it - there were a few frustrating moments when the computer nearly went out of the window - but I guess that makes the feeling of satisfaction on completing it all the greater.

Thanks, Wes, for putting this together.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 27 2014 08:19 AM

Congratulations, Stedman. Some of it is only beaten by sheer determination. I'm glad you've joined the Ascended.

Edit to add well done to AdamM7, who sneaked in under the radar.
Posted by: KayceeKool

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 27 2014 09:11 AM

Congratulations on your Ascension, Stedman and AdamM7, well done smile
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 27 2014 09:37 AM

I probably would have ascended by now if I hadn't made a dumb mistake.
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 27 2014 05:09 PM

Great effort AdamM7 and Stedman!!
Posted by: stedman

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 28 2014 05:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
I probably would have ascended by now if I hadn't made a dumb mistake.


I noticed you were neck-and-neck with me at one point towards the end - I really thought you were going to beat me to it!

Good luck - hope you get there soon.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 28 2014 08:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Buddy1
I probably would have ascended by now if I hadn't made a dumb mistake.


Those dumb mistakes really cause trouble - I made many of them myself, including one or two right at the start.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 28 2014 10:36 AM

I would have ascended by now too..... If I was actually playing again and not just sitting here not even remembering which task I haven't tried yet. :P
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Feb 05 2014 01:23 PM

Congratulations, everyone! I'm not going to be ascending any time soon. If there's one thing this challenge has taught me, it's that patience is a virtue! Though it's given me time to write things down. Like I said, I'd definitely recommend keeping notes or screenshots.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Feb 27 2014 01:54 PM

Congrats to Buddy, our newest Ascender. smile
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Feb 27 2014 02:12 PM

Thank you so much!
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Feb 27 2014 05:07 PM

Well done, Buddy1. Welcome to Mount Olympus.
Posted by: Dagny1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Feb 27 2014 05:11 PM

Congratulations, Buddy! The Bees Knees are proud of you.
Posted by: KayceeKool

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Mar 04 2014 11:07 AM

Congratulations, Buddy. A wonderful effort smile
Posted by: Anton

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Mar 21 2014 12:06 PM

What is the purpose of the arena controls? No matter what I pick, I get nothing and end up right back where I started.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Mar 21 2014 01:38 PM

If I told you, it wouldn't be a puzzle. You seem to be missing some information.
Posted by: windrush

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Mar 21 2014 06:28 PM

Wesley, I'm in an extremely long delay on chapter 3. Have tramped all around but have come back to the message that there is no way around it. Can I progress in the foreseeable future and still pick up the info I want before advancing past the next landmark? Also, I spent some few days here only to find myself back with the same long penalty. I take it that resets to your latest visit?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Mar 21 2014 08:04 PM

It seems you're missing an important clue. Be very attentive about small details!
Posted by: windrush

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Mar 21 2014 08:12 PM

Thanks, I'll keep trying frown
Posted by: windrush

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Mar 22 2014 01:11 AM

I swear I've run through every option at least 8 times - I know which direction I want to go, but haven't got the option. I guess I'm just not bright enough.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Mar 22 2014 05:07 AM

If you can't figure this one out, the game can be solved without it, although you may be at a disadvantage.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Mar 22 2014 08:32 AM

If it has something to do with a water nymph, then even after ascending I'm not sure how it was suppose to help or how I was put at a disadvantage for not figuring it out. So as Wes said, it can be solved without it.
Posted by: windrush

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Mar 25 2014 02:58 AM

Thanks, Buddy 1. I had some encouragement from Wesley to go back and look carefully again, which I did several times, but still with no success. I've now gone on without the info. Hope I don't regret it, but I was just going in circles.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Mar 25 2014 03:30 AM

I'm on level 12, still hoping that leaving that earlier level without getting past that last barrier won't be too big a problem - but at least I've had a lot of fun since then!
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Mar 25 2014 03:55 AM

Not for much longer, I have been rattling around in level 12 for months and months and still cannot see and end to it, or a start for that matter.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Mar 25 2014 09:15 AM

Level 12 certainly took me as long as all the others put together - or at least it seemed that way!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Mar 25 2014 09:46 AM

I took note of all my start dates for each chapter. I began Chapter 12 on October 28 and continued all the way to January 8. However, that does include about 18 days of revisiting past chapters.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Apr 05 2014 06:03 AM

i'm replaying it just to make sure I have all the items. I definitely managed to pick up a couple of things I missed the first time round. There's one level I am hesitant about redoing, though - I don't know how to say it without spoiling the game for people who've just started. Also, there's something I need to ask about a thing I found in Level 12 (it's not for any of the 8 circles, I'm almost done with them). Which mod should i PM?
Posted by: dg_dave

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Apr 05 2014 07:24 AM

I'd PM Wes, since he's the creator of the game.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Apr 16 2014 12:46 PM

Thanks, it's almost sorted. Just out of interest, has anyone else replayed the quiz? I'm not asking for help, I just wonder if I'm the only one doing it. There was a lot of stuff I missed the first time round and replaying it has really helped.
Posted by: UberClaire

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Apr 23 2014 10:15 PM

Are only the five most recent scores counted? I'm trying to get a certain score, but the page only records my five most recent attempts.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Apr 24 2014 02:54 AM

No, the five is just a display limit. It does keep your best score since you started and if a target score going down will meet any of your previous plays while at the stage, you will qualify.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 02 2014 12:26 PM

Congratulations to Lones78, who has Ascended. Well done.
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 02 2014 06:40 PM

Thanks Rossian smile
Posted by: KayceeKool

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat May 03 2014 02:54 AM

Congratulations on your ascension, Lones. A great effort smile
Posted by: mpkitty

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 06 2014 12:25 PM

I am in the bleep, on bleep, where the requirement is bleep points.
After being here one day the requirement did not go down. Is that occurrence correct?
Will it ever go down? bleep seems beyond me. If it doesn't go down, and I can't make the score, what should I do?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 06 2014 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By: mpkitty
...what should I do?


Read entry #4 in the FAQ.
Posted by: mpkitty

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue May 06 2014 02:03 PM

Thanks, and sorry for the bleeps, guess I wasn't thinking. smilee

But #4 doesn't make sense in this case. Sorry...
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 16 2014 09:21 PM

As stated in FAQ (as an alternative for scoring X points in one day):

"This alternative can either be a completely different requirement (e.g. authoring a quiz or playing a game score) or it can be a "persistence" stage in which you can fulfill the requirement in multiple days, scoring 7,500 points for each day. Of course, by taking the multi-day path, you will need to score more total points since this rounds up, so for example a 20,000 points requirement will translate to three days of 7,500 points or a total of 22,500. Those days don't need to be in sequence - you can rest in between as you wish."

Does this apply for Level 10 as well?
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 16 2014 09:25 PM

Sally, I think it's all at once.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri May 16 2014 10:06 PM

With the 7500 points in multiple days, there is a link you'd click to indicate you wan to do that. There is no such link in Chapter 10 so it's all in one day.
Posted by: windrush

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 11 2014 05:34 AM

I'm on task 6 stuck trying to solve a number riddle - with little or no numerical ability, I've already written 1 quiz as penalty; will I have to write a dozen or more quizzes before I get out of here, or is there some help out there?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 11 2014 09:56 AM

I believe you'll have a second chance to guess the number and if you get it wrong, you'll have to write another quiz. This will probably continue until you guess the right number.
If there's something you're not sure, you can try to google it. I don't know if you've tried that. Obviously, the riddle won't be there but if you need help with some math stuff, it might help.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jun 11 2014 12:40 PM

windrush, since you've already been through the "test" once, you know what is coming up (and you can after all check the answer options). You can now try out various numbers (without running into the penalty) by using the "show me that puzzle again" link until the activity you are being sent to from the number makes some sense in that context. If you get the right solution, you *will* know that it is correct - if you have any doubts, it is *not* correct!
Posted by: mpkitty

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 12 2014 08:33 AM

On the 6th level, I wrote the first quiz and it is online. Now it says "Not your Forte"? So my first quiz wasn't acknowledged and I am told to wait three hours.
Didn't my first quiz count, or do I really have to write another quiz right away?
My quiz met the requirements.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 12 2014 01:58 PM

You've left the stage while your quiz was in the queue, so the game had no way to check for your quiz (the task was marked as abandoned).

I've reconstructed and verified your progress and manually set you to the location the quiz should have sent you to, but next time make sure you stay at a stage until the task is really completed (which, in an authoring stage, requires the quiz to go online)
Posted by: Verbonica

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jun 12 2014 04:50 PM

I just got the Questian badge and now on the game page I get the message:

"Invalid varjump found."

http://www.funtrivia.com/centurion.cfm

I refreshed and tried both FireFox and IE - same message.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 13 2014 04:35 AM

I fixed your game status - this error might affect a handful of users who went through the first few screens right as it released but didn't complete the prologue before the first players entered chapter 12.

This is an unfortunate side effect of a critical bugfix.

Edit: I found five more players who would have been affected and proactively corrected their games.
Posted by: Ilona_Ritter

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 13 2014 05:15 AM

I just started this and have realized it's going to take me years to finish it. I've been stuck on the TvsT quiz forever so far lol. But I am having fun and that's what matters.
Posted by: Verbonica

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jun 13 2014 09:54 AM

Thank you very much, Wesley! smilee
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jul 18 2014 01:24 PM

Why does it have to be math?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Jul 18 2014 02:44 PM

Heh... there's not much that isn't represented in this game. However you should easily be able to google all relevant terms and which numbers they are associated with. The rest is just logic.
Posted by: Joepetz

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 12:57 PM

When I need a certain score to advance and over time the scores gets lowered, does it have to be listed as "Attempts since arriving." I need 940 in the smartest to advance. I got 934 and don't know if I should just wait until the score is lowered or if I should keep trying. I know I didn't explain this the best way. Does the system recognize all attempts or just the most recent ones. I don't want to knock the 934 out.
Posted by: Terry

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 01:19 PM

So who out there would like to see another game in the same spirit as the Ascension Quest (of course, with its own unique challenges...) ?
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 01:34 PM

Me please. *

Please, please, please, please, pretty please. Thanks!



*Even though I have been stuck in the library in the AQ for the best part of a year, lol!!! But I will finish it one day. Great fun to have it waiting for me.
Posted by: Joepetz

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 01:51 PM

I love the Ascension Quest and I am dying for a new one even though I am only half done with this. I hope it is a murder-mystery type thing.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 01:55 PM

I am! I like to keep busy!
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
So who out there would like to see another game in the same spirit as the Ascension Quest (of course, with its own unique challenges...) ?

Absolutely, yes!

Originally Posted By: Joepetz
I got 934 and don't know if I should just wait until the score is lowered or if I should keep trying. I know I didn't explain this the best way. Does the system recognize all attempts or just the most recent ones. I don't want to knock the 934 out.

All scores are counted, not just the ones under "Attempts since arriving". That list is just so there's not a long list.
Posted by: MikeMaster99

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 06:03 PM

Another 'Ascension Quest'-style game? That would be brilliant, Terry!!
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
So who out there would like to see another game in the same spirit as the Ascension Quest (of course, with its own unique challenges...) ?


yes please! laugh
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Terry
So who out there would like to see another game in the same spirit as the Ascension Quest (of course, with its own unique challenges...) ?


I definitely would!
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 08:45 PM

Sure, as a sequel to the first one. That way only those who finished the first get to play it wink

Maybe something that makes use of those bonus passwords.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 09:15 PM

I'm curious about those level bonus challenge passwords as well. I guess that means we need more mini-badges and regular badges.
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jul 28 2014 10:36 PM

You KNOW I'd love a new challenge, Terry. laugh
Posted by: KayceeKool

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 02:03 AM

Oooh, yes please smilee
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 02:12 AM

My personal view is that there should be a lot more who complete the first one before a new one is set.

Most of my team including myself have not played for a long time now. Very little incentive to finish the existing one without starting another.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 04:08 AM

Ascension Quest is supposed to be the top tier challenge and will remain the most difficult game for a long time. Any plans I have with regard to a new one would be something that goes between the Trivia Race and the original AQ in difficulty, with some optional challenges for top players.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 07:06 AM

By the way, here are some current stats:

Code:
 14 - Ascended
  1 - chapter 14
  1 - chapter 13
 33 - chapter 12
  2 - chapter 11
  2 - chapter 10
 21 - chapter 9
  2 - chapter 8
 26 - chapter 7
 44 - chapter 6
 29 - chapter 5
 84 - chapter 4
101 - chapter 3
 42 - chapter 2
 53 - chapter 1


The actual number in chapter 1 is likely slightly higher - I only see 500 players on my statistics page and it is missing the first few stages of chapter 1.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 08:29 AM

Quote:
So who out there would like to see another game in the same spirit as the Ascension Quest (of course, with its own unique challenges...) ?


I could say 'no, I don't want another testing challenge to take up too much time, try my (limited) patience and cause me frustration' - but, I'd be lying. Bring it on!
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 01:02 PM

Hopefully it won't cause you much frustration because it won't be as tough! laugh wink smile
I like the sound of it being aimed toward the middle ground so that more people can play!
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jul 29 2014 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
By the way, here are some current stats:

Code:
 14 - Ascended
  1 - chapter 14
  1 - chapter 13
 33 - chapter 12
  2 - chapter 11
  2 - chapter 10
 21 - chapter 9
  2 - chapter 8
 26 - chapter 7
 44 - chapter 6
 29 - chapter 5
 84 - chapter 4
101 - chapter 3
 42 - chapter 2
 53 - chapter 1


The actual number in chapter 1 is likely slightly higher - I only see 500 players on my statistics page and it is missing the first few stages of chapter 1.



Thanks. I feel less like an idiot for getting stuck now that I see how tough it must be. It takes some determination to get through! Maybe I will get back in there and try jumping my particular set of hurdles again. smile
Posted by: Midget40

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 06:52 AM

I loved this quest and have missed playing it.

Would love another one.
Posted by: stedman

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 08:11 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
By the way, here are some current stats:

Code:
 14 - Ascended
  1 - chapter 14
  1 - chapter 13
 33 - chapter 12
  2 - chapter 11
  2 - chapter 10
 21 - chapter 9
  2 - chapter 8
 26 - chapter 7
 44 - chapter 6
 29 - chapter 5
 84 - chapter 4
101 - chapter 3
 42 - chapter 2
 53 - chapter 1


The actual number in chapter 1 is likely slightly higher - I only see 500 players on my statistics page and it is missing the first few stages of chapter 1.



I'm not surprised so many people are stuck at Chapter 12 - that was a tough one!

It's interesting how few people have seen it through to the end so far; only two more since I managed it six months ago.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: stedman


I'm not surprised so many people are stuck at Chapter 12 - that was a tough one!

It's interesting how few people have seen it through to the end so far; only two more since I managed it six months ago.


Chapter 12 is meant to be lengthy with all its sub-chapters and the optional side quest there. The larger volume of players working on 9 is also easily explained.

I'm a bit surprised that certain aspects of 3, 4, 6 and 7 seem to hold up a lot of attempts. In each case it's one specific puzzle (not a game or quiz score) that is the stumbling block. All four of those can however be solved methodically by using the provided information.
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 09:42 AM

As I recall in chapters 3,4,6 an 7 once I reached an "A ha moment" there was "a light at the end of the tunnel". (No, it wasn't an oncoming train!) But now, in Chapter 10, I'm afraid I will be here forever---goals are just way out of my reach!
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 11:25 AM

I'm on chapter nine, I know why people get stuck here, and I've just not been in the mood to do the task. :P
Posted by: eburge

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 11:34 AM

I've just arrived there myself, Salami. I can see why. ;p
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 01:44 PM

There's so much to do in Chapter 12, I find myself unable to decide where to go next, and feel as if I need to find an entire day to just play with it. Unfortunately, entire days are hard to come by. It's been fun, and I am sure I'll get there eventually.
Posted by: golfmom08

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jul 30 2014 03:14 PM

I am on a task in Chapter 7 (YEA!) and am fervently hoping the requirement goes down! This is so much fun, I can't stand it!
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 31 2014 05:06 PM

What about ascended ranks, Wesley?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 31 2014 06:29 PM

Eyhung - Rank I
Dabomb619 - Rank II
Rossian - Rank III
Nautilator - Rank VI
Mcdubb - Rank VII
Stedman - Rank IX
MikeMaster99 - Rank XII
Pagea - Rank XIII
KayceeKool - XIII
Fifiona81 - Rank XVI
AdamM7 - Rank XVI
Lones78 - Rank XVI
Midget40 - Rank XVII
Buddy1 - XVII


This what you wanted, nautilator?

I'm not surprised by the top 3... wink
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 31 2014 10:27 PM

Eh, no surprises there. Can the game's stats be included in a Hall Of Fame or an Observatory or such in the game itself?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 31 2014 10:52 PM

That would be great. That way I don't have to keep checking every Ascended profile. wink
Posted by: Anton

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 31 2014 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: salami_swami
Eyhung - Rank I
Dabomb619 - Rank II
Rossian - Rank III
Nautilator - Rank VII
Mcdubb - Rank VII
Stedman - Rank IX
MikeMaster99 - Rank XII
Pagea - Rank XIII
KayceeKool - XIII
Fifiona81 - Rank XVI
AdamM7 - Rank XVI
Lones78 - Rank XVI
Midget40 - Rank XVII
Buddy1 - XVII


Why is there no four and two sevens?
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Jul 31 2014 11:42 PM

This isn't the order, it's where they rank individually. You'll notice no 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, or 14. Three are ranked 16, 2 are 17, 2 are 13, and 2 are 7.

So it's how far into the final ascension thing they are, not a ranking against others.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 01 2014 02:51 AM

I loved Chapter 12. It's not so much tough as detailed - there are lots of avenues to explore and clues which you can miss first time you see them. I may have to settle for Rank III - I just can't get those last two.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 01 2014 01:42 PM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
The actual number in chapter 1 is likely slightly higher - I only see 500 players on my statistics page and it is missing the first few stages of chapter 1.


#questian_badgelets - sum[numbers_you_posted] = missing players = 31


BTW salami_swami, can you update my ranking? grin
Posted by: Lones78

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 07 2014 06:28 PM

It's hard work to get a better ranking after the AQ has finished. When you manage to get another level though, it's a "thank goodness I don't have to do THAT again for a while" moment smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 08 2014 11:42 AM

Each single divine rank (except maybe the first few you get if you have several games you're really good at) is supposed to be a major milestone.

I didn't expect that anyone would ever manage it all the way to the top tier in the divine ranks - my estimate would be that a year after the first ascension, we might have the top player at around 5. A certain eyhung proved that my estimate of top tier skills was way too conservative. smile
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 08 2014 01:08 PM

They were major milestones, and it was exciting to reach them. I just wish I could experience that feeling again!
Posted by: Joepetz

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 01:49 PM

Is there a problem with AQ right now? When I click on the link I get a "page not displayed" but the rest of Funtrivia is fine.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 02:01 PM

Terry made some changes to the back-end of the game to accommodate new functions needed for the next one that I'm starting to create. I guess you ran into a brief problem - I just looked at it and it was working.
Posted by: kaddarsgirl

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 02:36 PM

I just tried it and I'm getting a "An unexpected error has occurred." message.
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 02:38 PM

Me too, just now.
Posted by: Reynariki

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 03:38 PM

Same for me.
Posted by: Christinap

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 03:43 PM

I just tried it and am getting 500 internal server error message.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 03:51 PM

It seems something broke, but only if playing without the admin flag, so Terry and I couldn't reproduce the error. I just asked my wife to call up Adventures in Authoring and she also got the Internal. I've informed Terry about the issue - please be patient. If anyone's currently stuck in a timed stage and losing progress because of the outage, please PM me.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Aug 14 2014 04:03 PM

...and it seems to be fixed. If anyone still has issues, please let us know. Sorry for the service interruption.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 15 2014 11:49 AM

OMG, I had just finished the entire quest and was levelling up to the Rank III when this glitch you speak of wiped my progress and sent me back to Chapter 12.: so I can haz Quezt baxge plz yes? What? Is true story, OK?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 15 2014 11:56 AM

Nice try. If it weren't for the fact that you're pondering that one quiz you need to write to proceed for seven months now, you might actually be there smile

(You haz true story, I haz good logs smile )
Posted by: salami_swami

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 15 2014 12:27 PM

Lol, Chavs. Made me smile. smile
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Aug 15 2014 01:12 PM

laugh Darn, worth a try! It is longer than seven months. I went away and came back! It is obviously going to be an amazing quiz,lol!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 06 2014 05:55 AM

Just as an FYI, I have recently rerun the stats for the final confrontation (while calibrating difficulties for the new game I'm working on) and there was no need to adjust anything. With one exception (that would have made one game harder that I certainly see as hard enough already), everything was within +/- 3 points of the current targets.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 06 2014 08:49 PM

How about a stat update too? Surely some people have progressed a bit.
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 06 2014 09:34 PM

I'm at a point now in Chapter 12 where the goal is just unattainable for me. It seems such a shame to have come this far only to give up.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 06 2014 09:50 PM

While still trying to be vague for those who aren't there, what is unattainable? Best of luck to you if you do try to attain the unattainable.
Posted by: pmarney

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 07 2014 02:41 AM

Not me, have not moved for 8 months now.

Doomed to stay in level 12 forever.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 07 2014 03:40 AM

Originally Posted By: sally0malley
I'm at a point now in Chapter 12 where the goal is just unattainable for me. It seems such a shame to have come this far only to give up.


*slightly puzzled at why it's only now that someone finds out the daily score reduction was never put on this game when it should have been...*

*fixes it*
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 07 2014 08:22 AM

Perhaps the rest of us were defeatist pessimists who just accepted our fate, lol!! Well done Sally! laugh
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 07 2014 12:24 PM

<< *slightly puzzled at why it's only now that someone finds out the daily score reduction was never put on this game when it should have been...* >>

I think there are two things:
1. Some scores do not reduce and we don't always know which ones
2. By the time players get that far in the Quest, they might be surprised you don't use the same avatar pmarney does. smile
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 08 2014 06:24 AM

With regards to #1: If a challenging score is required on a game and it does not have an option to back out, it should also always have a decrease (because it could cause a player to get stuck forever). So anyone ever finding themselves in a situation where they can neither advance (due to a score impossible for them) nor retreat, please contact me so that I can review the situation. The game isn't meant to leave anyone stranded without any hope to ever proceed.

And to #2, you're giving me ideas for the end of this month... smile
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 08 2014 07:50 PM

Oh, Wes, maybe another Halloweeny Challenge? Pretty please.

RE: Halloween 2014-- I should have listened to my mother when she said "Be careful what you wish for"!
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Oct 08 2014 07:51 PM

Thank you so much, Chavs! No one ever congratulated me before for being a slow poke! blush
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 13 2014 02:23 PM

At the risk of this post being a bit spoilery, do the scores go down on Chapter 14?

ETA, again: Wes just read your message upthread, I've messaged you. Sorry if it sounded a bit panicky, it's been a long day!
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Oct 13 2014 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Kankurette
At the risk of this post being a bit spoilery, do the scores go down on Chapter 14?

Absolutely not grin

That's nice that you finally got to 14. You were, uh, blockaded on 13 for a while, right?
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 14 2014 12:16 PM

I have an idea how to do it now, I think. And yes, I was on 13 for a while, but it was nothing compared to 12! I was on 12 for months!

ETA: I have ME and am in quite a lot of pain at the moment so I don't know if I'll be able to complete this challenge now. frown

ETA again: definitely not going to happen. I'm getting major brain fog and I hurt all over and I just want to go to bed. I did enjoy the AQ and it's been fun, but I think I'm going to have to bow out and miss getting the badge. Sorry about this.
Posted by: Kankurette

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Oct 25 2014 01:43 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I had another go and…I've finally done it.

Thanks to Wes and all the mods. It's been a long journey, but it was worth it. Especially Chapter 12.
Posted by: rossian

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Oct 25 2014 03:07 PM

Congratulations, Kankurette. It's a hard journey, but crossing the finishing line is a real thrill.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Oct 25 2014 03:21 PM

Congratulations indeed - even though you were pretty much forced to take the hardest route to the finish, you mastered it and certainly earned your Ascension. Hope you enjoyed the reward smile
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Oct 25 2014 04:01 PM

Wow, nice going. We haven't had any additions for quite some time.

e: Wesley, that's what you consider the hardest route? haha wink
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 26 2014 12:01 AM

Congratulations Kankurette! Well done! You've given me hope that eventually there is an end to Chapter 12.
Posted by: Chavs

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 26 2014 04:19 AM

Wow! Well done Kankurette! smile
Posted by: Barbarini

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 26 2014 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Kankurette
Thanks to Wes and all the mods. It's been a long journey, but it was worth it. Especially Chapter 12.


And 85,000 points yesterday to go along with it! An amazing effort! Congrats to you and all the others. Must get cracking on that quiz...
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Sun Oct 26 2014 10:35 AM

Congratulations Kankurette, getting through this game is a really impressive achievement!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 28 2014 07:58 AM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
Wesley, that's what you consider the hardest route? haha wink


I consider it hard indeed... the requirement on that particular route is certainly a very high one. Kankurette's (which just qualified) was the highest score for October in that particular department and probably actually the highest in the last several months.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 28 2014 10:12 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
I consider it hard indeed... the requirement on that particular route is certainly a very high one. Kankurette's (which just qualified) was the highest score for October in that particular department and probably actually the highest in the last several months.

You remember what I told you about it, right? Speaking of which...
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Oct 28 2014 12:42 PM

Originally Posted By: nautilator
You remember what I told you about it, right? Speaking of which...


In fact I don't. I've received so much feedback on AQ over the months that I can't remember most single items.
Posted by: Triviaballer

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 01 2014 10:20 AM

Is there anyone on the 12th chapter that I can share my misery with?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 01 2014 10:37 AM

I may not be on Chapter 12, but I completed it if that means anything.
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 01 2014 07:56 PM

I've been wandering aimlessly through Chapter 12 for months. I feel your pain! crazy
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 01 2014 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Triviaballer
Is there anyone on the 12th chapter that I can share my misery with?

Last time the stats were posted, there were 33, so yes, several dozen of you are stuck in hell.
Posted by: dotsnoopyfan

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Nov 04 2014 06:44 PM

I've been stuck at the 4th chapter for several months. I don't know if I want to keep going or not. It's getting too frustrating for me.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Nov 04 2014 07:12 PM

I'm not sure how much you can say without spoiling, but what frustrates you?
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Nov 17 2014 09:22 AM

Hello, everybody.
In Chapter 3, while still in the Exploration Stage, after clicking on each and every option do you have to wait 100 days before continuing?
After encountering the page telling me to wait, I went back and tried a whole lot of options and played the quizzes I was asked to do and scored the 10000 points I was asked to score. I have clicked on all possible options but I cannot find a way to go out of the Exploration Stage. Is there another way, apart from sitting and waiting for 100 whole days?
Thanks,
DeepHistory.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Nov 17 2014 11:14 AM

You do not have to wait the 100 days. I believe (although not sure) somewhere in the exploration stage it tells you where to go to exit the stage.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Nov 17 2014 12:22 PM

On your way in, you would have read the following message: "Caution! You are entering an Exploration Stage. You will be able to reach the exit of this area along many ways, but unless you completely explore the area and its alternative paths, you may miss required clues for later on, so do not leave the area before you are sure you have everything you need. A message will inform you when you intend to leave the exploration area and you will be offered the chance to turn back at that time." As I recall, I eventually gave up without finding something I was sure I should have found that would be very useful but not essential. I certainly didn't wait 100 days! I haven't yet found when the information I missed would be useful, but of course that could be why I am wandering aimlessly around Chapter 12.
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Nov 17 2014 12:38 PM

Thanks, Buddy1 and looney_tunes for your interest and answers.
DeepHistory.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Nov 17 2014 01:13 PM

The way out of this particular exploration stage is easy to find - you may want to make yourself a map.

You can reach it from the entrance without ever playing a game, waiting or doing anything else but move.
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Nov 17 2014 02:46 PM

Thank you, Wesley!
DeepHistory.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Nov 19 2014 09:51 AM

I am not sure if this has anything to do with the Ascension quest, but I just noticed that I have the Word Alchemy badgelet and I did nothing that I can tell to earn it. The blurb says that unless I am one of the lucky ones to have gotten the Philosopher's stone (or a piece of it), then I have the badgelet. Did I unwittingly complete something in the Ascension quest without realizing it that made me get this badgelet?
Posted by: stedman

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Nov 19 2014 10:13 AM

Originally Posted By: shuehorn
I am not sure if this has anything to do with the Ascension quest, but I just noticed that I have the Word Alchemy badgelet and I did nothing that I can tell to earn it. The blurb says that unless I am one of the lucky ones to have gotten the Philosopher's stone (or a piece of it), then I have the badgelet. Did I unwittingly complete something in the Ascension quest without realizing it that made me get this badgelet?


No - this is how you get that one:

"Awarded to a player who submits the words Neon, Iron, Zinc, Gold, and Lead in the Word Wizard mini-game."

Quite neat if you managed to get that without trying for it!
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Nov 19 2014 10:27 AM

The thing is, I was trying for it and never got to submit any of the words. I think it was awarded in error. Could Terry or someone check it? I wouldn't want to have something I hadn't earned. frown
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Nov 19 2014 10:29 AM

And now on the Ascension quest proper, I did notice that there is a list when you try to go through the waterfall that says you need to pass 6 of the following 8 quizzes with 8 correct to move on. On my screen, there are only 7 quizzes, not 8. Is this a glitch in my view or is the instruction text wrong. Thanks!
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Nov 19 2014 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: shuehorn
And now on the Ascension quest proper, I did notice that there is a list when you try to go through the waterfall that says you need to pass 6 of the following 8 quizzes with 8 correct to move on. On my screen, there are only 7 quizzes, not 8. Is this a glitch in my view or is the instruction text wrong. Thanks!

I saw that a few times through the quest, it means one of the 8 quizzes was taken offline. Now that you've noted it it should be fixed soon.
Posted by: shuehorn

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Nov 19 2014 12:03 PM

Thanks, Nautilator. That makes perfect sense.
Posted by: George95

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Nov 20 2014 07:38 PM

Where I am in the AQ requires me to get a certain amount of points in the GM Madness game. Unlike other games though, my required amount of points has not decreased over time. Technical glitch or is there a reason for that?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Nov 20 2014 07:45 PM

It's correct (and was asked quite a few times). Check the FAQ, fourth entry smile
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 22 2014 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Originally Posted By: sally0malley
I'm at a point now in Chapter 12 where the goal is just unattainable for me. It seems such a shame to have come this far only to give up.


*slightly puzzled at why it's only now that someone finds out the daily score reduction was never put on this game when it should have been...*

*fixes it*


Once again I am at a point in Chapter 12 where the requirement has not decreased nor is there an option to "back out". Is this also a "bug" that should be corrected?
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 22 2014 07:28 AM

It's not a bug, that requirement is low enough that it should be doable without a reduction (use your favorite category).

I've added a back-out option so you can do something else while you wait for the right topic to show up.
Posted by: sally0malley

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Nov 22 2014 03:18 PM

Thanks, Wes! I know I have been there before and managed to advance but lately I'm really spinning my wheels crazy
Posted by: Ilona_Ritter

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Dec 08 2014 09:58 AM

I have been stuck on Chapter 2 for days because I just can't seem to answer enough questions within the allotted time span. And this one doesn't seem to be going down. It is quite frustrating.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Dec 08 2014 10:55 AM

Ilona, scroll up four posts from yours, the answer is already there.
Posted by: Ilona_Ritter

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Dec 08 2014 04:45 PM

OH, I wasn't really asking a question I was just stating that I was frustrated lol. I intend to keep trying I've come really close a few times so I'm sure sooner or later I'll get what I need. But thank you.
Posted by: Ilona_Ritter

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 12 2014 01:15 PM

After 4 days I finally did what I had to do to advance. I think the key to the Ascension Quest is perseverance.
Posted by: nautilator

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 12 2014 04:17 PM

We've had two more:, merylfederman and reedy, in recent times that nobody pointed out yet. It's like a bonanza compared to the last few months.
Posted by: KayceeKool

Re: Ascension Quest - Sat Dec 13 2014 10:05 AM

Congratulations on your Ascensions, merylfederman and reedy, it's quite an achievement smile
Posted by: andymuenz

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 24 2014 12:47 PM

I'm at the point where I need to write a quiz "in the Technology and Computers category or any of its subcategories". I just had one accepted in the Microsoft Excel category but I'm still showing as not having met the requirement. Is this the part where she may not be satisfied with my first quiz and I may have to try again? If so, will it tell me that? Or is it possible that I'm too deeply buried in the subcategories for the quiz to notice? (Technology and Computers -> Computers -> Software and Programming -> Microsoft Excel) Or does it need to be online for a certain period of time?
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Dec 24 2014 01:47 PM

It does not need to on-line for a certain period of time. Also, it doesn't matter how deep into a sub-category a quiz is. In the rare instance that it does matter, then the instructions will state that. Additionally, I believe the "may not satisfied" part only applies to Chapter 9 whereas you are currently on Chapter 3.
Posted by: Nammage

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 25 2014 01:00 PM

I'm on a phone, my only source for the internet and i'm currently on one that says I have to complete an easy game in 25 seconds. There is no way that's possible on a phone unless I do not read the questions or answers and just guess randomly and hope I get 975 points.

Is there a way after a few days that could be upped to 30 seconds (which is more of a possibility) for those of us on phones?

Clicking and loading takes a couple seconds, then I have to zoom in, and unless I randomly guess there's just no way I can do it in 25 seconds.

-Nam
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 25 2014 02:03 PM

If you do not get the required score within 24 hours, then the score needed will decrease. That's not true for everything, but it is true from lots of things. It may or may not be true for this; you just need to wait.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 25 2014 03:26 PM

If the task does not get easier, as I recall, that is a sign that you are not on the right path, and should go back and try another tack.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 25 2014 10:16 PM

Nammage, the one you are currently on has a score decrease built in. You should see it get a bit easier every day. If it doesn't do that for you, you either see a cached page or you've navigated to a different location and thus reset the countdown.
Posted by: andymuenz

Re: Ascension Quest - Thu Dec 25 2014 11:00 PM

So I guess the question is, what am I doing wrong since it says I still haven't met the requirement even though my quiz "Microsoft Excel Shortcuts" went online over 24 hours ago? Should I try going back and asking for a different task?
Posted by: CmdrK

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 26 2014 12:34 AM

If the quiz was going to be acceptable or not you should have been told so as soon as you set up the template. Did you submit that quiz before you got to the princess? If so, that's the problem. The clock doesn't start ticking until you accept the challenge.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 26 2014 02:27 AM

Or you may have used an old template? It may be necessary to set up the template after getting the assignment.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 26 2014 04:26 AM

Actually, everything was done correctly, but the editor who put the quiz online used the opportunity to make a new subcategory for Excel. The game didn't know about this, however, so it didn't recognize the quiz.

I've advanced you manually - there was nothing important in the completion message of the previous stage.
Posted by: andymuenz

Re: Ascension Quest - Fri Dec 26 2014 11:23 AM

Thank you. It's working now.
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 05 2015 06:48 AM

Hello. I have a question about the game.
I am at Chapter 4, Exploration Stage, the Stonecrafter. The game asks me to score 1350 points in the Word Wizard game. I played it and scored 1347. I want to ask you: How long are past attempts in a game archived in the system's memory? Since I usually do not score that well in this game, I don't want to get stuck for days and days and it's unlikely for me to get a better score, I consider not playing until I discover how much the score is lowered. Can I keep playing and have my scores kept in the game's memory, even after they disappear from the screen?
Thanks,
DeepHistory.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 05 2015 10:17 AM

There are kept in memory even after they disappear from the screen. That happened to me once and it still counted.
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 05 2015 10:41 AM

Thanks, Buddy1!
Happy New Year!
DeepHistory.
Posted by: looney_tunes

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 05 2015 12:38 PM

I believe you have to make the score after it is posted as your target, so when it lowers you cannot use a previous score, but must play again to achieve the lower target.
Posted by: daver852

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 05 2015 01:23 PM

I am in stage 12 or whatever it is called. Location redacted - spoiler there is this message:

After you finally manage to break free of the enchantment, you are left with nothing but a void in your head. This creature cannot help you...

On the wall, however, you find this diagram:

The problem is that there is no diagram. I tried logging in under both Google Chrome and Internet Explorer, and the diagram will not open.
Posted by: WesleyCrusher

Re: Ascension Quest - Wed Jan 07 2015 01:09 AM

I PMed you the link to the diagram again. It seems there was accidentally one image left hosted offsite (on my server from where I tested it) and the server was down while you played.
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 20 2015 11:33 AM

Hello, everybody.
I am currently at Chapter 4, Exploration Stage, the Bookbinder. The requirement has not been lowered after the passing of one day, as it happened so far. My questions are:
1) is it necessary to fulfill what I am asked to do or will it be lowered after a certain amount of time?
2) if I decide to go back and return there later, will the requirement be tougher, as it happened in Chapter 2, where I had cut four heads but decided to retreat and, upon returning, all the 9 had to be severed again.

Thanks,
DeepHistory.
Posted by: Buddy1

Re: Ascension Quest - Tue Jan 20 2015 12:02 PM

If a score has not been lowered after 24 hours, then it will never get lowered.
To answer #2, no. I believe the hydra is the only example of a requirement being tougher like you described.
Posted by: DeepHistory

Re: Ascension Quest - Mon Jan 26 2015 10:26 AM

Hi again.
I am still at Ch.4, after the Exploration Stage. At the first cave, I managed to find the correct option, which led to the second. A wrong choice took me back to the first cave. I clicked the option which, at the previous time, was correct and now it was not. Do the correct options change every time you are forced to go back?
Finally, if this post is spoilerish or something similar, please delete it. Elsewhere, I would like to have an answer.
Thanks,
DeepHistory.