MollyGrue
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Good news, my mom says that Glee is on the top of the ratings, and she should know it's her job to keep up with them.
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kyleisalive
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As far as I know, 'Glee' has been getting modest ratings (about 7mill viewers per episode). It's nowhere near the usual 14mill that 'House' and 'The Mentalist' bring in, but it was the first show to be picked up for the full season this year, so FOX knows that they have something. It's popular within certain demographics too, so they'll keep it around for a bit longer so long as the ratings keep up.
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Gatsby722
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Don't you just love the word (and the concept, even) of "demographics" ? I remember the year that I slipped out of that esteemed *18-34* checkpoint. I gotta be honest, too: I was devastated ! How dare time play such a mean trick? Drat. My inclusion in things no longer mattered to the numbers crunchers. I was pretty much ready to pack my bags and head off to The Daisy Hill Puppy Farm (Geriatric Ward), or some such thing. I'm kinda thinking that "Glee" will catch on nicely, AND across-the-board, once it starts clicking without labels, and all that, attached. Is it a possibility that we "Puppy Farmers (Geriatric Destination)" ( ) types like it better, right now, than the younger audience might? There's a good bit of 'unflattering' in the way it treats its characters, especially the youngsters. Mean sneaky cheerleaders? Unflinchingly doofus-y high school athletes? Geeky outsiders who think that a little Beyonce makes for a good idea on a football field? Yikes. So the younger audience might (likely) have a wee problem, or six, with how the show represents their generation. But, on the other hand, the 'oldsters' aren't shown as being very exceptional either, if one ponders it. Otherwise sensible teachers who buy into that that lump in his wife's blouse is an embryo ... when it's in fact a gradually rearranged pillow? An on-the-verge of psychotic coach of (mostly misguided) cheerleaders? The program seems to have no boundaries in how it [good-naturedly, really] pokes fun at every age bracket. I think once folks stop reading about it (the hype IS rather large) and get to watching? They'll realize it's not an artistic statement about anything "important". It's just fun! And it certainly isn't Shakespeaeran on any level. "Glee" seems to be in that slippery area between the high melodrama that people seem to like and the wild brainlessness that people seem to like just as much. It has a sensibilty to it that doesn't quite knock with the heretofore "marketable genres". Luckily, I'm reading that the music from it is selling like hotcakes on an early Sunday before church ! That's a mighty good thing, isn't it? Money, money, money! If it can keep going well that way? Maybe ratings won't matter so much. For now, anyway?
But the big news, as for we Gleeks and/or casual fans? This week's episode gives the (so far) rather background-ish Artie the front part of the stage. Yay! Even though I couldn't seem to watch the 'sneak peek' (it wouldn't load, darn it ), he even gets to do some jazzy wheelchair maneuvers and does a snappy version of "Dancing With Myself". Might disabled people feel somehow offended by such a story line? Probably, some will. Might just as many other disabled people feel empowered to see him "dance" that way? I'm pretty sure that'll happen, too.
The idea, then? The hope? Get them all watching, eh? After they do that (and the ratings start establishing solidly) all the way from Puppy Farms to junior high schools, "Glee" will be just fine. And might last more than only a year or two. Or so I hope, hope, hope.
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pyonir
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I think the show allows you take from it what you want, without it shoving morals or "lessons" down your throat. If you want to watch a show that's fun, with a bit of music, you get that show. If you want to watch a show that has underlying tones of social commentary which includes just about every aspect of high school life provided by very different characters, you get that show too.
I think that's one of the reasons I like the show so much. Some episodes I want to zone out and just listen to some pretty good music (and who doesn't love a song remake? lol) and other episodes I want to look at it in a more critical point of view, and look for the subtle lessons they are trying to portray, I can do that too.
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Choco_nut
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Well said Pyonir & Gats, I so dislike the "demographics" notion.. I don't like being put into a nice little box that these "marketing experts" would like to think that we all belong in either..
We have got a repeat episode on here tomorrow night (Thursday Aus time) as we have caught up to you guys and you haven't seen this weeks show yet..
I'm looking forward to seeing Artie shine this week too.. (I can't wait for Kurt and Rachel's song either.)  This week is going to be a good one!
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Gatsby722
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Anybody watch night before last? Great episode (and notable, too, in that it gave a character, or three, the opportunity to flesh out a bit more than what we've gotten to see so far). Especially Artie, of course --- but, as mentioned, the whole episode was built around him. Finally and happily! It was kinda like watching several layers of the onion, as they apply to that high school, get peeled away. I find that I just can't help it, as things progress. As rough as he is around the edges, and as much as he tries to present as a self-involved thug in a football jersey? Ol' Puck grows on ya, doesn't he ? Especially when one looks beyond that he ultimately turned an otherwise family-oriented bake sale into an arrest-worthy "munchies fest" !? Never mind that it could have, maybe, got him put on house arrest until he gets to turn 21. It was the motives behind it that were pretty much honorable. And strangely sweet, too. And, honestly, I don't know how much praise to load onto those *Kurt and his Dad* characters, either. The way they play that story line out is just so sensible and believable, somehow! Those guys pass back and forth the 'who gets to be the mature one, today?' like, dare I say it, a football!
But one can't leave that whole hour of "Glee" without a (totally unexpected, but sensible just as much), lump in the throat in regards to Miss Sylvester ! Jane Lynch is doing, in my opinion, a totally awesome job playing her! One always senses, no matter how over-the-top she presents that woman as being, that there is *something* more there. Something gentler and kinder than that 'Feminazi' she so glories in acting like. I'm having a hard time seeing Lynch as anything but a major front-runner for an Emmy Award this year, too [as I go about making these crazy early predictions].
Terrific visit with "Glee" this time (again), folks. Just my summation of it, but possibly the best one so far ! Worth that exasperating two-week wait , indeed!
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Edited by Gatsby722 (Fri Nov 13 2009 06:25 AM)
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ClaraSue
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Sylvester has a heart?! I had to re-wind that part and watch again. But then, I had to re-wind and watch lots of parts. I just can't seem to get enough of this show. I actually remembered to record it on the TV instead of watching on my phone so hubby got to see it, too. He hadn't seen it before and I think he was hooked by just this one episode.
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pyonir
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After tonight's episode, all I can say is when Shu asked what a ballad is, and that blonde girl answered "it's a duck" i missed the next 30 seconds of the show because I was laughing too hard. That was priceless.
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ClaraSue
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Ooh, this last episode had me full of gasps!
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kyleisalive
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After tonight's episode, all I can say is when Shu asked what a ballad is, and that blonde girl answered "it's a duck" i missed the next 30 seconds of the show because I was laughing too hard. That was priceless.
She's hilarious. Every once in a while she'll say something totally off. "Most of us don't know how to bake. I find recipes...confusing."
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pyonir
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She's hilarious. Every once in a while she'll say something totally off. "Most of us don't know how to bake. I find recipes...confusing."
haha, exactly. :P Great writing and she delivers the lines perfectly.
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