#100686 - Thu Jun 21 2001 10:24 AM
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RAID!!!
When I see a long line of little bodies treking their way to my tasty rafters complete with their tiny hammers and saws I blast those pesky carpenter ants with a healty dose of diazinon. I usually have to do it twice a year.
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#100687 - Thu Jun 21 2001 11:12 PM
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To help keep bugs away, do not wash with scented soaps or use hair sprays.
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#100688 - Thu Jun 21 2001 11:17 PM
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I heard that if you live in a part of the country where biting gnats are a problem, Avon's Skin-so-soft helps to repel them.
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#100689 - Thu Jun 21 2001 11:36 PM
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Great tip, anniedt! Avon's Skin-so-soft will also help to keep mosquitoes off of you as well. A couple of months ago, one of my rabbits had a couple of fleas on her. Rabbits are very sensitive little animals and you can't give them flea dips nor can you put flea collars on them. I was telling my neighbor about this one day after she had her dog dipped and she gave me some Skin-so-soft to put on my bunny. I did this a couple of times and I haven't seen a flea since.
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#100690 - Thu Jun 21 2001 12:37 PM
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That's great, JoJo. So, if you can put Skin So Soft on a bunny, can you put it on dogs and cats, too? And if so, how would you go about it? Just a couple of drops between the shoulder blades, or would you put it all over? I have a dog and two cats and the fleas are really bothering them. I use the flea drops on them once a month, but the cats manage to lick it off, and it makes them sick for a couple of days afterward. I thought I would try the Skin So Soft and see what kind of results I get, but I mainly was just wondering how much to put on them. Thanks!
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#100691 - Thu Jun 21 2001 02:32 PM
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Hi retrogril! Yes, you can put Skin-so-soft on your dogs and cats. My neighbor puts it on hers all the time. I would dilute it a little bit in water and dip your comb or brush in the solution and give your pets a good combing. If they already have fleas, then I would use a flea comb while doing this, so that you can comb out the fleas at the same time. If your animals like to be bathed, then you could pour some directly on them (diluted or not) and it won't hurt them if they lick it off as it is non toxic. We had some stray cats around for awhile who were infested with fleas, and every where they went, they left fleas behind. Some of the fleas must have taken a little trip on my tennis shoes and got inside. I washed and sprayed my porch down, and used a veterinarian quality product called FleaTrol on the carpets and vacuumed really really well. Here's another tip. If you have fleas in your home, empty your vacuume cleaner each time you vacuume. Vacuuming will suck them up, but will not kill them, and they can crawl back out. Little buggers. Good luck to you retrogirl, and folks please keep those great tips coming in. Thanks again to anniedt who reminded me of how great Skin-so-soft is.
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#100692 - Thu Jun 21 2001 03:22 PM
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Speaking of which, I was playing with my dog today when I found a gigantic (really, it was huge!) tick right above her ear. I yanked it out, burned it with my lighter, and then squished it with my shoe. Think I got it. LOL  I don´t think I´ve ever seen Skin-So-Soft in stores here, and the regular flea & tick shampoo I´ve been using on Cookie doesn´t seem to be doing the trick. I wonder if maybe any other body lotions might work? Also, Cookie is a furry dog...half-Pekignese half-god-knows-
what...are there any tips you could give me to get rid of the "dreadlocks" she gets? Anything other than torturing her with a brush, that is.
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#100693 - Thu Jun 21 2001 03:56 PM
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Fortunata, to my knowledge Avon products can't be purchased in stores. They are sold through independent sales representaives. I don't know were you live, but I'm assuming it's not in the states if you're lost in the tropics. Try looking in the business section of your local phone book for a representative. Sometimes you can also find brocures in grocery stores near where the stores ads and free newspapers are kept. If you come up zero, let me know and I'll see what I can find out for you.
Also to get a tick to release it's grip, put ice on it. They are looking for warmth, which is why they snuggle under your pet's skin. When they pull their head out is when ya grab em and end their miserable little existence. Otherwise you run the risk of the tick "losing it's head" over the tug of war and that could cause an infection. So watch the area carefully.
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#100694 - Thu Jun 21 2001 04:25 PM
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Hi Annie! Sorry, I missed the part about it being by Avon. I know their products are not sold in stores. And I am definitely lost in the tropics, in the middle of Central America. Nope, no Avon representatives here! LOL Thanks for the ice tip, I´ll try that next time. I´m pretty sure I got the whole tick out, head and all. 
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#100695 - Thu Jun 21 2001 09:14 PM
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Thanks for the info on the Skin So Soft. There's a small flea market (no pun intended. LOL!) right down the street from me and an Avon rep has a booth there. I'm going to pay her a visit tomorrow to buy a bottle of Skin So Soft and try it on my pets. I really would like them to get some relief from those awful fleas. They really don't bother me or my husband. I know some people are really sensitive to flea bites, but I really don't notice them, except for the fact that my pets are miserable.
Thanks again!
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#100696 - Fri Jun 22 2001 08:25 AM
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I wish you the best of luck retrogirl. Please keep up posted.
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#100697 - Thu Jun 28 2001 10:29 AM
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Pest Repellant Plants- Animals: Wormwood
- Ants: Mints, chives, onions and tansy
- Aphids: Mints, garlic, chives, cilantro, anise and nasturtiums
- Cabbage Maggots: Mints, tomatoes, rosemary and sage
- Cabbage moth: Mints, hyssop, rosemary, thyme, sage, celery, catnip, nasturtiums and tansy
- Cutworms: Tansy
- Fleas: Fennel and pennyroyal
- Flea Beetles: Mints, tomatoes interplanted with cole crops
- Flies: Basil
- Japanese Beetle: Garlic, tansy, rue and geraniums
- Leaf Hoppers - petunias and geraniums
- [b]Mites:
Onions, garlic and chives
- Mosquitoes: Basil
- Nematodes: Marigolds, salvia, dahlias and calendulas
- Slugs and Snails: Rosemary and wormwood
- Squash Bugs: Tansy and nasturtiums
- Tomato Hornworm: Borage and Marigolds
- White Flies - Nasturtiums, marigolds and nicotiana
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#100698 - Thu Jun 28 2001 06:22 PM
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My dog rarely ever had fleas, but when he did, we put a piece of a flea collar inside of the vacume cleaner bag to kill any fleas or there eggs that we sucked up!
My mental plane is flooded due to a severe brainstorm! 
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#100699 - Fri Jun 29 2001 07:07 AM
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Avon's Skin So Soft is a very effective mosquito repellent--I use it all the time. In fact I just ordered some more of it from the Avon Web site (if you don't know an Avon lady you can order it directly from Avon). The spray on version is marketed as "bug guard", but you can also get it as a body lotion. I would not, however, use this product on dogs or cats. For one thing it has NO ability to kill fleas or to prevent flea larvae from developing. And, for another, cats and dogs can be sensitive to some of the ingredients. There are so many good, effective flea control products available for pets. I use Advantage or Frontline (which I get from my Vet)--it is applied once monthly throughout the flea season and it is absorbed into the animal's bloodsteam. If your pet already has fleas you have to get rid of those first (with a flea dip) before using a flea control product. Then you would use one of the preventative products (some of which control for ticks as well).
You must also rid your home of any fleas brought in by your pet otherwise these can continue to reinfest pets. A product such as the one JoJo mentioned, or a flea bomb might be needed. Retrogirl if your cats become ill after the flea preventative you put on them discuss that with your Vet--perhaps there is another product you can use. I would not bother with the Skin So Soft--it won't work and it is not meant to be ingested so it might make your cats ill if they licked their fur. I've ordered many things from a catalogue company called Drs. Foster and Smith. They sell a WIDE range of flea control products for both pets (including towelettes and other products to use on cats) as well as home use. You might find it interesting to look over the range of flea products on their Web site. Maybe one of them is just what you are looking for:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/sub.cfm?pcatId=6&src_code=3658019&ref=4&subref=CU To change the subject to another pesky bug... I need some help in identifying and getting rid of large brown bugs which have been in my garage for some time and which are now showing upin my basement.
They are brown and about two inches long and have long spider-like legs and small bodies, (but I doubt they are spiders). They move by jumping (rather fast) and can jump a distance of several feet at a time. Does anyone have any idea what these bugs are or how I can get rid of them? In the garage was one thing, but I don't want them in my basement! RAID wouldn't help--they move too fast and cover too much distance. Has anyone used the electronic pest control devices you plug into the wall in your home? I am thinking of ordering them from QVC, but I'd like to know if they work. HELP! [ 06-29-2001: Message edited by: chelseabelle ]
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#100700 - Fri Jun 29 2001 03:24 PM
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Another thing that works great (if your animal can't tolerate one of the products mentioned above like Advantage or Frontline) is Program. It's a white, milky looking liquid that you place on a bit of wet food. Like the other two, it's a great, monthly thing that you can use on your cat or dog. Retrogirl, I think checking with your vet before putting SSS on your animal might not be a bad idea. All you need to do is give him or her a quick phone call - doing that is free for you to do and might save you from doing something that's not healthy for your pet. Just to be on the safe side! You don't want to unintentionally harm your little one. As others above have said, it's VITAL that you not just think treating your pet is enough! You must treat both your carpets and your yard in order to win the flea battle. It's true that you can carry them in on your shoes or socks. And, all it takes is one pregnant flea,.... 
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#100701 - Fri Jun 29 2001 08:24 PM
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Chels, it sounds like your describeing a bug that we here in Michigan call June Bugs. If that is the case, they'll all be dead by mid-July. Did you start noticing them around late may to early june? Do they only show up from dusk until dawn? Finally, do they make a buzzing noise when they hit your window screen? If your still not sure, then I'd take one to your local nursery for Identification.
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#100702 - Fri Jun 29 2001 09:34 PM
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If they are, indeed, junebugs, send 'em here - my boy loves to play with them! From what I gather, they're quite entertaining to bat around the place and chase from room to room!
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#100703 - Sat Jun 30 2001 10:24 AM
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I ran a Web search and those critters in my basement and garage appear to be brown jumping spiders. They catch their prey by jumping rather than by spinning webs. I called QVC to ask about the Riddex electronic pest repellers, but apparently they have no known effectiveness against spiders, ants, mosquitoes, fleas, sliverfish,etc (all the things I would like to get rid of ), so there was no point in ordering them. Does anyone know what I could use to get rid of jumping spiders? Many forms of spider control seem not to work with this type spider, and I need something that's safe to use indoors.
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#100704 - Sat Jun 30 2001 10:35 AM
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Oooooo CB, it gives me shivers just thinking about ominous brown jumping spiders.  BTW...We're going to Shakesphere in the Park (Taming of the Shrew) tonight. It is being billed in the local paper with the subtitle "Dinner Theater for Mosquitoes". We've decided to conduct a little experiment...There are five of us going and each one is going to wear a different repellent. I'll let ya know which of us suffers the least.
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#100705 - Sat Jun 30 2001 11:41 PM
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Our hose has been attacked by what someone told me were Wolf Spiders. Every time there is even a slight chance of rain these buggers will make a web across our gate making it impossible for me to get out of the yard without going through the garage (I guess the mice eat all the ones in the garage). I have SERVERE arachniphobia and cannot stand these things, every time I go to garden they are hiding there. I am also allergic to spider bites, and to make it all worse, I am allergic to RAID and most other pesticides.
Someone told me that opossums love to eat Wolf Spiders, anybody got a oppossum they want to get rid of send it to me.
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#100706 - Sat Jun 30 2001 02:41 PM
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i was reading a few weeks ago about flea control in the newspaper and they said to use salt take the salt and grind it up in your food processor until the salt is a fine powder put the salt in your carpet and work it in with a stiff brush the fleas only stay on the pet long enough to feed and then its back to the carpet the salt not only kills the fleas but its eggs also you can use the salt for any type of bug any where there is not any plants the way the salt works is that it gets on the body of the bug and drys it out one thing that is nice about it is that it is safe around childern and pets my daughter uses it because her dog is allergic to fleas and she swears by it
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#100707 - Sat Jun 30 2001 03:01 PM
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For my cats' fleas I use Front Line, I squeeze it on the back of their necks so they cannot lick it off themselves. Another tip for ticks is to dab with either (cooking) oil or with spirit such as metholated spirit. It is essential that the whole thing comes out... we were always told never to just pull, it only needs a little to be left behind in order to cause an absess. As for those electronic bug gadgets CB, I have a number of them in my home... I don't know if they actually work but I don't have any bother from insects. I don't know whether I would have a problem without them either! I use PestContro units which I bought from QVC in the UK. From the list of bugs which the ones you investigated DON'T control it looks as if there are not many things it would deter!
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#100708 - Sat Jun 30 2001 07:46 PM
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Wow! So much information concerning fleas. Actually, I did purchase some Skin So Soft the day after I read the posts about the bunny rabbit's fleas. I sprayed some on all of my animals, and maybe it's my imagination, but they seem to not be as miserable. They still scratch, but it has slowed down considerably. I did give my dog a bath first with some flea shampoo, and brushed and combed him afterwards, and then sprayed the Skin So Soft on him. That was a week ago, and he's been a lot calmer with his itching.
So, I don't know...I think I will call the vet on Monday, just to be sure I'm not harming them. But even if the Skin So Soft isn't killing the fleas, maybe it's acting as some sort of "conditioner" for lack of a better word, and is at least calming down the itching. Like I said, I'm glad they're getting some relief.
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#100709 - Sat Jun 30 2001 08:18 PM
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I can only speak from personal experience and Skin So Soft helped to repell fleas from my rabbits and they didn't get sick, and belive me they are constantly licking and cleaning themselves. Rabbits are unable to vomit, so if there was any chemicals that were harmful to them, they probably would have died. Ohio State University along with other research groups for non toxic approaches to insect repellents highly recommend using Avon's Skin-So-Soft as an insect repellent for people and pets (good mosquito repellent). It helps relieve itching caused by insect bites and dry skin. Also, mix five parts water, one part Skin-So-Soft and mist on show animals. Brush in to make their coats gleam and keep insects off so your animal won't fidget. Source: Ohio State University Extension Fact Sheet
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Home Remedies, Holistic Approach, Repellent Plants http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~ohioline/hyg-fact/2000/2145.html
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