#1031100 - Wed Jan 22 2014 10:35 AM
snorting Smarties
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There's been a dangerous new trend among students that's first been noticed among those in a Portsmouth, RI middle school. They've been grinding up Smarties (the little fruit-flavored candy disks) into powder and snorting them up their noses like cocaine. Trouble is, it produces scarring of the nasal passages where flies can lay eggs that becaome nasal maggots. (GROOOOOOOSS!) That and a lot of other respiratory problems can occur. These brainless kids think that just because they're not snorting cocaine, they won't get in trouble! SHEESH! Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not so handicapped. Elbert Hubbardtjoeb};>
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#1031181 - Wed Jan 22 2014 04:42 PM
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This is better than mainlining sugar via Pixy Stix injections! Now those things leave a scar. My Dermatological Plastic Surgeon says my scars will be virtually invisible after a good unicorn tattoo is applied.
Edited by mehaul (Wed Jan 22 2014 04:43 PM)
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#1031214 - Wed Jan 22 2014 09:04 PM
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I am sorry, Mehaul, but I completely fail to see how this topic could possibly be used as a reason for humour.
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#1031229 - Thu Jan 23 2014 01:59 AM
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Sorry Ren, I read the initial post as a total urban legend. It has not happened. It is worthy of being tweaked. No one I know in New England has heard that this has occurred, several of those people being grade school teachers and administrators. But thanks for recognizing my post as a jest and not my real situation.
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#1031233 - Thu Jan 23 2014 03:28 AM
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Point taken but I still don't see why someone would make up such a pointless 'legend'. I do not see anything remotely entertaining or amusing about a story like that.Does anyone?
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#1031308 - Thu Jan 23 2014 12:49 PM
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The most daring thing I did with a Smartie was lick a red one and paint my lips with it. (Long time ago.)
I hope this never gets beyond a very remote possibility.
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#1031353 - Thu Jan 23 2014 02:40 PM
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I grew up in New England and in our day the exact same legend ran its course only it entailed the use of the sweet candy of the moment. Giving away that I spanned two generations of this rumoring: I've heard the tale told using Canada Mints (pink ones) and the white flavor of the multicolored NECCO Wafers.
Bugs can fly (or crawl) into our mouths as we sleep and there is no reports of mouth maggots. The moisture of our respiration would melt the crystal sugar (the agent which could cause scraping but not scarring) making exposure of meat in the nasal airways highly unlikely. If the event of egg laying in the nose's mucus membrane were even possible (the ph is wrong for egg growth) bloody noses which happen quite often to youngsters, would most likely be requiring some sort of antiseptic applications and infiltration prevention steps rather than being allowed to just dry up.
Edited by mehaul (Thu Jan 23 2014 03:01 PM)
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#1031373 - Thu Jan 23 2014 03:57 PM
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I certainly don't, Ren. I am in your court.
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#1031382 - Thu Jan 23 2014 05:11 PM
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(uh-oh, epistle alert, everyone hide their eyes lol)....
Parasites, bacteria and viruses will find their way to harm other living forms in SOME manner, as 1) that's their purpose/method of survival/species perpetuation and 2) they are probably the most viable (and changeable/evolving) organisms due to their very short (comparatively) lifespan.
But I have to agree with mehaul in that this occurrence is HIGHLY unlikely at best (even the doctor said it wasn't probable, merely "possible" - big difference) and an urban legend at worst.
Folks make up "pointless" urban legends all the time and go to conSIDerable effort to do so, whether the rest of us think that's a waste of time or not lol. And when they can't think of something new, they just recycle the old crap that's been circulating newspapers and especially emails since their inception. This sort of thing is not restricted to the last couple of decades; charlatans have existed for centuries. Is this annoying? Absolutely. Are things like this factual/provable? Rarely. Is it amusing to some degree? Quite often, in my opinion, yes (wryly, with respect to human nature in general).
It is doubtful that insects would be attracted to DRIED fake chems simulating supposed fruit flavor/smell. Now, if they had said, "don't stuff a slice of fresh juicy orange up your nose and allow it to rot there, thereby attracting maggot-laying fruit flies", that might have been more useful (and like the other idea, shouldn't really be necessary to put in writing) advice ~~~
I suspect that someone thought they were being "incredibly" funny (rolls eyes) by deliberately choosing "smarties" to offset their "dummies" allusion.
Doesn't anyone my age remember the "rumour" going around that smoking dried banana skins gave you the same rush as marijuana? Does anyone actually KNOW anyone who really tried this? I don't (even though I knew people who enjoyed the real thing), but you'd have believed the "epidemic" if all you knew about it was gleaned from the folklore/gossip/media that went around. If the person who started THAT one is still alive, I'm sure they are still giggling to themselves, with or without pharmaceutical enhancement ~
I think the real danger here is not this particular "smarties issue", but the fact that young children generally are more naďve and trusting of purported "fads" and might actually TRY anything put on the internet as "the thing to do if you're gonna be cool". Quite frankly, there are also plenty of adults who should stop believing everything they read on the internet is real as well!
Simple fact? No, we shouldn't be snorting ANYthing up our noses except air (if necessary, accompanied by a mask of some sort). That's not funny, it's a fact. But the fact that people do such things anyway doesn't mean we have to get all serious, or unnecessarily fearful, or pass a law or something. In red-neck humour, falling for this sort of thing would result in a "here's your sign" moment ~~~
There are a zillion ways to die. The Darwin Awards prove that (and they are a "light-hearted" if not amusing comment on the really really stupid things people do).
Your mileage may vary : ) Personally, I don't find anything funny about the antics of Toronto's mayor, but Americans apparently find it hilarious. Haven't heard so many mentions of Canada on US networks in 20 years lol. Which is funny in itself.
p.s. Along with other Canadians, my "Smarties" are like M/M's (but better). No, you should not snort them (DUH). Ground up or otherwise - you WILL asphyxiate. Death by chocolate I guess. Apologies for the pun.
p.s.s. Lesley. I always hated the red covered ones (they tasted funny to me then, but I'm sure they removed that red dye #whatever long after I stopped eating them and they're much "safer" now lol)) so I gave them all to my much younger sister who thought it was cool because she always got to "eat the red ones last", as per the silly commercial ad.
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#1031387 - Thu Jan 23 2014 05:50 PM
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Lesley. I always hated the red covered ones I can't remember what they tasted like, or even if different colours had different flavours. Just chocolate, and sweet. But I bet the red was cochineal Delicious! And irrelevant - sorry.
Edited by lesley153 (Thu Jan 23 2014 05:51 PM)
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#1031404 - Thu Jan 23 2014 06:50 PM
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Trivia poser: Isn't there an automatic convulsive exhale reflex that occurs when a crawly or buzzy thing goes into your nostril?
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#1031415 - Thu Jan 23 2014 08:32 PM
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And for the true expert on this topic - http://www.snopes.com/horrors/parental/smarties.aspApparently, kids have been crushing up candies and snorting them for decades. Many things seem reasonable to try when one is six years old. And then there is the "smoking Smarties" issue. That is really crushing up the candies while still in the wrapper and blowing the dust out one end. Nasal passages can be damaged if the candy isn't crushed into a fine dust and the sharp pieces are inhaled, causing small cuts. Scarring can happen if it is done regularly, or more than once on a dare. The scarring and cuts can introduce bacteria etc. into the respiratory system. It is also this possible rotting bacteria in the nice, warm, moist nose that *might* attract a real life bug.
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#1031423 - Thu Jan 23 2014 10:35 PM
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I read it to say that kids crush the stuff to powder, put that powder in their mouth and then exhale through their nose - an action that siphons some of the mouth held dust into the nasal stream and it looks like smoke comes out their nose. They are smoking not snorting, and quite infrequently from reliable sources. That is not snorting. Nowhere did it say kids were doing lines. Big uncrushed particles in the mouth would be too heavy to get siphoned into the exhalation stream through the nose. Only the dust would be light enough to do that. And, that Dr Orel guy even hinted why they include the maggot idea was to dissuade kids from doing the "smoking" in the first place. Not a documented fact but a made up statement to scare the uneducated mind. And they do use Pixy Stix for the same effect: crush - mouth - exhale out nose - cloud of smoke. Kids having fun, who'd a thunk? Why don't they just use powdered Confectioner's sugar? Because they aren't doing it at all.
Edit By The Way: A far better dissuader to kids is to tell them no one else is doing it.
Edited by mehaul (Thu Jan 23 2014 10:38 PM)
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#1037744 - Thu Mar 13 2014 01:36 PM
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Our British Smarties were orange/flavour, brown-coffee, one more was plain and the rest were milk. These were abandoned around the 80s only leaving the orange one different. I've no idea what an American one is like but whoever would think of grinding up what is nearly all pure sugar and snorting it does sound a bit far fetched, more so anyone following them. They could just buy icing sugar if they really thought it was so exciting to do so.
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#1037745 - Thu Mar 13 2014 02:24 PM
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They didn't snort it by all accounts. They put atomized dust in their mouths, closed said mouths and exhaled through the nose. The result being they looked like they were exhaling smoke. Icing sugar is also called confectioner's sugar.
Edit: And it seems the accounts come from the 'doctor' who made up the maggots in noses story to scare kids. I think he made the whole thing up based on urban legend and used his degree, authoritarian position and access to credible publications to spread the fabrication, showing peer review doesn't always work. At times it takes a searching public to unveil the truth.
Edited by mehaul (Thu Mar 13 2014 03:07 PM)
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#1038568 - Thu Mar 20 2014 02:47 PM
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I don't believe the treats UK and Canadian folks know as Smarties are the same in the US. There, I think the product named Smarties is more like a cross between Pez and Sweet Tarts (if that makes any sense to anyone lol). Anyway they don't have chocolate. And yes I do remember that different colours had different flavours and always saved the coffee ones for last : ) They all taste the same now and they're boring (sadly).
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#1038575 - Thu Mar 20 2014 03:37 PM
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Why did Canada stop exporting Canada Mints to the US? Sorry that's a tad off topic to this thread. I just wondered what we did wrong that you stopped rolling those huge mints our way and is there anything we can do down here to get them rolling again?
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