Hi jonnowales,

Excellent theory! It does seem like odd that wait times would be that 'gaping' in terms of time and, also, people would be less likely to submit if they thought it could be nearly a year before any decisions were made!

Besides, didn't I read somewhere that quizzes that sit longer than a certain length of time are deleted or sent back or some such? Or am I thinking of something else?

Cheers!
woboogie

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Besides, didn't I read somewhere that quizzes that sit longer than a certain length of time are deleted or sent back or some such? Or am I thinking of something else?

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Perhaps what you're thinking about is quizzes under contruction that sit for months untouched. They may be deleted, either automatically by the system, or by an editor. This does not apply to quizzes which have been submitted and are in the queues.

O.K. Thanks for clearing that up, Skunkee!

Cheers!
woboogie

Welcome

Yeah, im still waiting for my videogame quiz to be accepted or rejected, but I know that it ust be stressful having to go through everyone's quizzes, so I am just waiting patiently.

Does anyone know if the waiting time shown for Hobbies is correct as I have had a quiz waiting for quite some time now. I had a correction notice which I responded to immediately but that was a couple of weeks ago now and I've heard nothing.

It's the first quiz I've written and if it is so bad it is never going to get onlne I'd rather someone told me than just leave it sitting in limbo

Hi Christina, you submitted your quiz on 28 July, which is a little over a week ago. I can assure you we will get to it, please be patient. And we do try and help authors to get their quizzes online, we never just leave quizzes in the queue hoping the quiz maker will forget about it being there!

Leau, editor

Thank you Leau, it seemed like longer than that

Can someone please check when I last submitted my "Jak 3" quiz because I don't remember...

You can check it for yourself. Go into the quiz edit screen and it will show you the quiz history. When you've created the quiz, if and when you've changed its title, and when you have submitted it. Just make sure you exit the edit screen without saving, otherwise your quiz will end up at the end of the queue again. (Every time you save your quiz while it's in the queue the resubmission date gets re-set.)

I think that explains why I thought I had been waiting for longer than it appears I have. I went into the edit screen but I saved when I came out of it, I didn't realise that sent it back to the end of the queue again, still I'll know next time!

Thank you for clearing that up Leau

The confusing thing about it is that the "quiz submitted" line in your quiz's history is only created once, when you actually submit your quiz. Every time you save your quiz after that, the quiz is put at the end of the queue. However, no new line is added to the quiz history, the "quiz submitted" date in the history remains the same.

If you spot an error in your quiz after you've submitted it, please do fix it and save your quiz, even if that means sending it back to the end of the queue. The fewer errors your quiz contains when we get to it, the quicker it can be placed online!

Sorry about the wait JP, our video games editors, myself included, have been on vacations for the past week and have not had the time to hop into the queue. The coincidence is unfortunate, but we hope to work through the queue over the next few days.

Thanks for the info. I had a feeling that it was something like that. I am gald to hear that you are back!
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JP1991, gamer and student

Quick question. Is there a specific editor for the Manga section of literature, or is it any of the editors.

I have been having problems understanding how things end up being plagiarized. A team mate has been helping me to understand all of that better, but in the course of these errors I've made, I have been waiting, I believe, 43 days now for a quiz to go on line. I know we get, "punished" when we mess up, but I think this long wait is a bit overboard.

All I want to know, in a pleasant manner is...Where is my quiz?

Frustrating authors this way doesn't help matters any. Helping us to learn how to recognize when we are making serious mistakes would be more beneficial to both the site and the authors. I write some very good quizzes, now I have a road block that is, in my opinion, and this is no reflection on anyone, it is just my opinion...a road block that is somewhat overboard.

Perhaps you should POST how long the "Punishment" is for different infractions? Instead, you leave the authors hanging, wondering, feeling frustrated, feeling like giving up and quitting. I don't think FT wants that to happen, but it is a thin red line that probably some authors walk on, when this sort of thing happens.

Funnytrivianna, if you need further clarification about plagiarism, feel free to PM me. I'm an English instructor and plagiarism is something I have to explain to students all the time. And, often, people have no idea that they plagiarized or even what constitutes plagiarism. Finally, sometimes we glean data from so many resources that we can't remember if the words are our own or someone else's. I can give you a few tips (if you're interested) in how to avoid this. Good luck!

Giselle, you need to contact the editor that worked on the last quiz you submitted for an answer.

There are no "punishments" for quiz authors. As the editing staff has continually said it is all a matter of the quality and little editing that quizzes need.

However, I cannot stress enough to contact your the editor that handled your newest quiz submission.

Funnytrivianna, you submitted your quiz on 27 August, that is a fortnight ago, not nearly 43 days.
By the way, we cannot post how long the 'punishment' is, just like we cannot post the wait for other quizzes as a constant, because it depends on the size of the queue.

If you are asking about your Scarecrow quiz, it shows as being submitted on Aug 27. If you hit 'save' on a quiz after it has been submitted, it goes back to the end of the queue.

As for plagiarism, there are a couple of quizzes in the Quizmaker's Tuneup section (in General) which outline FT policies. A rule of thumb - if it is not in your own words, it must be in quotation marks, with the source cited (or clearly understood, as in the case of song lyrics or quotations from books). Changing the tense of a few words, rearranging clauses - these do not count as using your own words.

We do not want a direct quotation from sources like Wikipedia, CD liner notes, book jackets, fansites, etc, even if you scrupulously cite the source - we want to hear what YOU have to say, not some anonymous hack. If you can't put a name to the quote, one that quiz players will likely be familiar with, then (on the whole) don't use it.

My advice to quiz authors is to never take notes by copying and pasting - always use a paper and pen, as then you will not be tempted to take more than the bare minimum. Then, wait a couple of days, so the wording used by the source material can fade from your mind.

We understand that the internet is rife with copying, and many newer quiz authors may not really understand our policies. Therefore, the "punishment", if you like, for first offences is pretty minor. However, we are considerably less understanding in the case of second and third offences. A third offence usually means suspension of quizwriting privileges, or termination of your account.

Are you suggesting that I am lying?

When one of my quizzes goes on line, I generally have one ready to submit that same day, as I am sure many authors do the same thing.
On June 30th my "Barbapapa" quiz went on line and I submitted my "Scarecrows Aren't What They Seem" quiz, that same day. Ask people on my team, how long I have been making remarks at how long this quiz is taking to be approved?

Proof:
4 Barbapapa
(edit) (delete) (notes) 1549 Ratings: 20
Good & Excellents: 18 (90%) Exc: 13 (65%), Good: 5 (25%) T Authors Difficult 99 Yes Jun 30 08

I am not sue how well the stats of when this quiz went on line will show and read correctly in this post.

On my team, we discuss our quizzes. Here is one of my statements from our team message board.

funnytrivianna

When is CC's quiz going to be on line? What's going on with that one, anyone? Kyle?

As for my group quiz, I can't submit it until my Scarecrows one goes on line, and I had to do a couple of corrections on it. I just resubmitted it about a half hour ago, so hopefully it will be fine now. We'll see. Once that happens, I'll submit our newest group quiz. Wooopieeeee! It is a fun one, especially......well, you'll have to wait and seeeeee!
Reply #662. Aug 27 08, 7:46 PM


On August 27th, my quiz was re-submitted. I know when I submitted it to begin with, it is even discussed on my team message board, that I submitted it.

Now, I'm not trying to be cheeky or argue about this. I do know summer is a tough time for quizzes, editors etc. But, I do know when my quiz was sent in, to begin with, and that it is taking an awfully long time to get approved.

Without authors, FT would not exist. I think that maybe this important point has been forgotten. It would be a lot better for an author to be given an idea as to where in the queue their quiz sits, something like 22nd out of 38 quizzes. Why are authors treated like we have no right to know where our quizzes stand? We are letting the site use our creations. Treating authors without enough concern and with too much omission of consideration is like a crack in the structure. All of a sudden the whole thing could crash down. Too often, problems are looked at, after the fact. I only hope that what I posted will somehow help to correct things a little bit.

It is my understanding, that when you have to do corrections, then you have to click "save" once you do the corrections and then you can resubmit the quiz. Which is what I did on August 27th, with the "Scarecrows" quiz. It took until then for the quiz to show up in need of corrections. One of the questions on this particular quiz, which was all in my own words, in the first place, about a scarecrow place in one of the Maritime Provinces, which I have been to, was suggested that it "could possibly" be plagiarized. So, I even re-worded my own words! How absurd is that?

To me a forum is a place where we can have an open discussion. This particular topic is about the length of time a quiz is in the queue. I discussed my point of view on that subject, in relation to what I am going through. Instead of a simple, "We'll look into it", I get accused of being a liar and of not knowing when I originally submitted the quiz.

I do hope that this particular discussion is not deleted, as I have noticed some others are. I am not accusing anyone of anything, other than questioning why the long delay. I even admitted to issues with plagiarism, for me, that I have to work out. I am not denying my errors here. I have not been rude, yet rudeness has been delivered to me.

Let's hope the matter can be resolved in a pleasant way, rather than an impulsive action or reaction.

Thanks.

Funnytrivianna, first of all let me say that I have not seen any rude remarks by anyone, least of all directed at you. We do realise that FT wouldn't be what it is without quiz authors. However, that doesn't give the quiz authors carte blanche to do whatever they please. The system is set up so that quizzes from authors whose work is consistently error-free, will drift to the top of the queue quicker than quizzes from authors who keep plagiarising, don't spell-check their quizzes or don't follow our guidelines in other ways. If you only want the tyre pressure checked, you can usually get an appointment at the garage quicker than when your entire car needs to be looked at. The same goes for our quiz queue system.

Apart from that, yes, if you say your quiz has been submitted 43 days ago, and it has in fact only been since 27 August, then I think I did say you were lying.
When you submitted your quiz for the first time, it went to the bottom of the queue. (Just like you'd have to line up at the end of a queue to be served at any store.) Then you got a rejection note on your quiz, which you fixed. When you then resubmitted your quiz, it went back to the end of the queue, as it is seen as a new submission. (To stick with the store-metaphore: if you decide you forgot something, and go back to the store a few hours later, you have to wait in line again, you can't simply bypass everyone else who's waiting.)

Leau, your analogy about tyre pressure is a good one. I liked that!

Obviously the math makes little sense, since it is 72 days since June 30, but I gave about a month of grace for this particular upset of mine.

After I had submitted the "Scarecrow" quiz another quiz of mine was returned to me with the suggestion of it having been plagiarized. I completely re-wrote that particular quiz (not at all happy about the suggestion and quite unhappy about the quiz quality dropping) (JTL-editor for that one, so Agnes may remember that) and resubmitted that one, hence two quizzes in the queue at the same time. I gave this fact consideration, since I could realize that only one of the two quizzes, at a time, could be edited. This surely created a lot of problems for me in the queue line as well.

Why do I feel like I'm on trial here? Good grief!

Anyway, quite obviously anyone can see I am quite frustrated, and the forums are a place we can ask questions. I may not be quite satisfied with the answers, however, answer some of you did. Carrying on the matter serves no purpose really.

Some of you have been helpful and I will take that advice, with appreciation.

It is suggested that I contact the editor? In rules somewhere on this site, it says we are not to contact the editor. With respect, I don't do that. Instead, I came to this forum to see if I would get any real answers. I was given some advice, but no real answer for the very long amount of time, that this quiz is in the queue line. I was given possible reasons, so, I guess that is all there is, only possibilities but no answers.

Thanks, all the same, for trying to help out with this question. It is all too easy to misunderstand things that are in print, such as on this forum thread. For this reason, I am going to say thank you, again and let this be my final comments on this issue...for now!

Hugssssss
Gizmo

Now that I know how to check, submission date etc. without affecting the quiz, it was submitted July 17. I apologize for thinking it was June 30th. It was returned for repairs, also was switched around from categories, at one point, by one editor. I think three or four different editors have handled this quiz, so who do I ask about it then? It has been a real problem quiz, that's for sure!